History Headscratchers / Gundam00AWakeningOfTheTrailblazer

10th Feb '16 5:00:20 PM Discar
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[[folder:Setsuna's 50 years]]




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[[folder:Rivaling Turn A]]



*** The heavily-GN Particle infused armour on 00 verse gundams in general will cause trouble for the Moonlight Butterfly. GN Particles are exotic matter derived from topological defects, and will not play nice with things that operate on the molecular scale. Nanomachines are precision devices, and don't cope well at all with things way outside the design specs. Add in the known effects of high GN particle density on unshielded electronics, and the Butterfly might not work at all on Gundams, and certainly will lose it's instant kill effect. I'd wager a Twin Drive unit in TRANS-AM would be largely immune until TRANS-AM runs out.

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*** ** The heavily-GN Particle infused armour on 00 verse gundams in general will cause trouble for the Moonlight Butterfly. GN Particles are exotic matter derived from topological defects, and will not play nice with things that operate on the molecular scale. Nanomachines are precision devices, and don't cope well at all with things way outside the design specs. Add in the known effects of high GN particle density on unshielded electronics, and the Butterfly might not work at all on Gundams, and certainly will lose it's instant kill effect. I'd wager a Twin Drive unit in TRANS-AM would be largely immune until TRANS-AM runs out.



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[[folder:Veda terminal communications]]



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[[folder:Tieria during the 50 years]]



* The ending is notorious for raising more questions than it answers, with WhatHappenedToTheMouse abounding. The 50 years later epilogue provides us with some idea of what ended up happening to Marina (including an oft overlooked picture of her with all her grown up adopted children), Setsuna (Metal edition) and maybe a cameo appearance of Tieria. On the whole however, the only other character that is touched upon on in the Epilogue is Klaus, the girl who got half metalised, and potentially the reporter (which is either possible or lubricious depending on how innovators age. Klaus aged pretty hard). This leads us to the question[s].
** What happened to Soma/Marie and Hal/Al? What was there fate 50 years on? Where did they end up.
** Where is Lyle? Did he ever get over Anew? No one knows.
** Did Tieria x Milenia ever actually happen? Does Tieria ever reconcile himself with being a fragment of Veda while being in some form human, which was what he spent most of 00 realising?
** What happened to Louise and Saji? Once again, no one knows.
** It's implied that Klaus and Shirin have a relationship. if Klaus is the XO of the Sumeragi colony ship and developed Innovator powers, where did Shirin go?
** On that note, what happened to Sumeragi? The very fact that she has a ship named after her suggests that
*** A, somehow over the course of the past fifty years she became far more of a public figure. This could either happen due to much better public education about CB (Unlikely given the huge inaccuracies of the "movie" at the start of Trailbalzer, as they didn't even get the genders of the Meisters right). Or it could have come about due to Sumeragi doing something that warranted her getting a colony ship named after her, which leads us to.
*** B she's dead. You don't name ships after living people as a general rule.
** The Sumeragi is entirely crewed by Innovators. This is portrayed in a very positive light, but it does raise the question- has society evolved into some kind of racially segregated Apartheid? It certainly isn't unarmed, it's called a "warship" and a suit similar to the GN archer does a fly by.
*** The epilogue Mobile Suit is called a Sakibure, and it's a worker mobile suit, ie, unarmed. One of the mangas does state that there was an anti-Innovator and anti-ELS revolt at some point during the TimeSkip, but it was put down (in part by Celestial Being). Anyway, the reason it's crewed entirely by Innovators is that Innovators have a greater tolerance to extended periods in space than normal humans, which would practically be a necessity on an interstellar voyage (which would last years even at light speed). Further, assuming they do meet some other form of life out there, the Innovators' telepathy will be very useful in avoiding another situation like what happened with the ELS.
** Feldt. This has been said before, but what happened to her?

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* The ending is notorious for raising more questions than it answers, with WhatHappenedToTheMouse abounding. The 50 years later epilogue provides us with some idea of what ended up happening to Marina (including an oft overlooked picture of her with all her grown up adopted children), Setsuna (Metal edition) [[/folder]]

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and maybe a cameo appearance of Tieria. On the whole however, the only other character that is touched upon on in the Epilogue is Klaus, the girl who got half metalised, and potentially the reporter (which is either possible or lubricious depending on how innovators age. Klaus aged pretty hard). This leads us to the question[s].
**
Hal]]

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What happened to Soma/Marie and Hal/Al? What was there fate 50 years on? Where did they end up.
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up.

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[[folder:Lyle]]

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Where is Lyle? Did he ever get over Anew? No one knows.
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knows.

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[[folder:Tieria x Milenia]]

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Did Tieria x Milenia ever actually happen? Does Tieria ever reconcile himself with being a fragment of Veda while being in some form human, which was what he spent most of 00 realising?
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realising?

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[[folder:Louise and Saji]]

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What happened to Louise and Saji? Once again, no one knows.
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knows.

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[[folder:Klaus and Shirin]]

*
It's implied that Klaus and Shirin have a relationship. if Klaus is the XO of the Sumeragi colony ship and developed Innovator powers, where did Shirin go?
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go?

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[[folder:Sumeragi]]

*
On that note, what happened to Sumeragi? The very fact that she has a ship named after her suggests that
*** ** A, somehow over the course of the past fifty years she became far more of a public figure. This could either happen due to much better public education about CB (Unlikely given the huge inaccuracies of the "movie" at the start of Trailbalzer, as they didn't even get the genders of the Meisters right). Or it could have come about due to Sumeragi doing something that warranted her getting a colony ship named after her, which leads us to.
*** ** B she's dead. You don't name ships after living people as a general rule. \n**

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[[folder:Sumeragi crew]]

*
The Sumeragi is entirely crewed by Innovators. This is portrayed in a very positive light, but it does raise the question- has society evolved into some kind of racially segregated Apartheid? It certainly isn't unarmed, it's called a "warship" and a suit similar to the GN archer does a fly by.
*** ** The epilogue Mobile Suit is called a Sakibure, and it's a worker mobile suit, ie, unarmed. One of the mangas does state that there was an anti-Innovator and anti-ELS revolt at some point during the TimeSkip, but it was put down (in part by Celestial Being). Anyway, the reason it's crewed entirely by Innovators is that Innovators have a greater tolerance to extended periods in space than normal humans, which would practically be a necessity on an interstellar voyage (which would last years even at light speed). Further, assuming they do meet some other form of life out there, the Innovators' telepathy will be very useful in avoiding another situation like what happened with the ELS.
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ELS.

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[[folder:Feldt]]

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Feldt. This has been said before, but what happened to her?
her?

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5th Nov '15 12:33:13 AM drillizer
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** The brief contact he had with the ELS near Earth was just enough to explain to them what they were doing wrong, and how they could communicate with humans without overloading their minds. He goes to their home system to communicate with the main body of the ELS: the ones in Sol are just a colony, an offshoot. At their homeworld, he can engage in a long psychic conversation with them, telling them everything he knows about humanity and learning everything about the ELS in the process. That way the two species can more easily achieve a working alliance.

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** The brief contact he had with the ELS near Earth was just enough to explain to them what they were doing wrong, and how they could communicate with humans without overloading their minds. He goes to their home system to communicate with the main body of the ELS: the ones in Sol are just a colony, an offshoot. At their homeworld, he can engage in a long psychic conversation with them, telling them everything he knows about humanity and learning everything about the ELS in the process. That way the two species can more easily achieve a working alliance. That said, it's never stated that he stayed for the entire 50 year span, so it's incredibly likely that he came back after a short wile and made repeated trips back and forth.
1st Oct '15 5:06:06 PM Jeran
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** The ELS-upgraded version may also be flat-out immune to the Moonlight Butterfly. Technology-destroying nanites versus the ELS's shapechanging, regeneration and assimialtion is probably going to be a stalemate. Best case scenario for the Turn A in a fight with ELS!Quant is the regeneration function canceling assimilation and the ELS negating the Moonlight Butterfly.

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** The ELS-upgraded version may also be flat-out immune to the Moonlight Butterfly. Technology-destroying nanites versus the ELS's shapechanging, regeneration and assimialtion assimilation is probably going to be a stalemate. Best case scenario for the Turn A in a fight with ELS!Quant is the regeneration function canceling assimilation and the ELS negating the Moonlight Butterfly.
** While the 00 Qan[T] is officially stated to have been powerful enough to destroy the entire ELS invasion force single-handedly, the same statement notes that this would've taken around ''two weeks'' of non-stop combat. Meanwhile when the Turn A's Moonlight Butterfly was at full power, it generated a field with a diameter of around ''10 AU'', which instantaneously dissembled every piece of technology within it to silica dust. In terms of scale at least, the destructive power of the Turn A is ''many'' orders of magnitude beyond that of the 00 Qan[T].
8th May '15 8:05:26 AM Shiki
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* The ending is notorious for raising more questions than it answers, with What Happened to the Mouse abounding. The 50 years later epilogue provides us with some idea of what ended up happening to Marina (including an oft overlooked picture of her with all her grown up adopted children), Setsuna (Metal edition) and maybe a cameo appearance of Tieria. On the whole however, the only other character that is touched upon on in the Epilogue is Klaus, the girl who got half metalised, and potentially the reporter (which is either possible or lubricious depending on how innovators age. Klaus aged pretty hard). This leads us to the question[s].

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* The ending is notorious for raising more questions than it answers, with What Happened to the Mouse WhatHappenedToTheMouse abounding. The 50 years later epilogue provides us with some idea of what ended up happening to Marina (including an oft overlooked picture of her with all her grown up adopted children), Setsuna (Metal edition) and maybe a cameo appearance of Tieria. On the whole however, the only other character that is touched upon on in the Epilogue is Klaus, the girl who got half metalised, and potentially the reporter (which is either possible or lubricious depending on how innovators age. Klaus aged pretty hard). This leads us to the question[s].
16th Feb '14 8:54:23 PM DarkHunter
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** The brief contact he had with the ELS near Earth was just enough to explain to them what they were doing wrong, and how they could communicate with humans without overloading their minds. He goes to their home system to communicate with the main body of the ELS: the ones in Sol are just a colony, an offshoot. At their homeworld, he can engage in a long psychic conversation with them, telling them everything he knows about humanity and learning everything about the ELS in the process. That way the two species can more easily achieve a working alliance.


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*** The epilogue Mobile Suit is called a Sakibure, and it's a worker mobile suit, ie, unarmed. One of the mangas does state that there was an anti-Innovator and anti-ELS revolt at some point during the TimeSkip, but it was put down (in part by Celestial Being). Anyway, the reason it's crewed entirely by Innovators is that Innovators have a greater tolerance to extended periods in space than normal humans, which would practically be a necessity on an interstellar voyage (which would last years even at light speed). Further, assuming they do meet some other form of life out there, the Innovators' telepathy will be very useful in avoiding another situation like what happened with the ELS.
21st Aug '13 11:08:10 PM Forrestal
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* The ending is notorious for raising more questions than it answers, with What Happened to the Mouse abounding. The 50 years later epilogue provides us with some idea of what ended up happening to Marina (including an oft overlooked picture of her with all her grown up adopted children), Setsuna (Metal edition) and maybe a cameo appearance of Tieria. On the whole however, the only other character that is touched upon on in the Epilogue is Klaus, the girl who got half metalised, and potentially the reporter (which is either possible or lubricious depending on how innovators age. Klaus aged pretty hard). This leads us to the question[s].
** What happened to Soma/Marie and Hal/Al? What was there fate 50 years on? Where did they end up.
** Where is Lyle? Did he ever get over Anew? No one knows.
** Did Tieria x Milenia ever actually happen? Does Tieria ever reconcile himself with being a fragment of Veda while being in some form human, which was what he spent most of 00 realising?
** What happened to Louise and Saji? Once again, no one knows.
** It's implied that Klaus and Shirin have a relationship. if Klaus is the XO of the Sumeragi colony ship and developed Innovator powers, where did Shirin go?
** On that note, what happened to Sumeragi? The very fact that she has a ship named after her suggests that
*** A, somehow over the course of the past fifty years she became far more of a public figure. This could either happen due to much better public education about CB (Unlikely given the huge inaccuracies of the "movie" at the start of Trailbalzer, as they didn't even get the genders of the Meisters right). Or it could have come about due to Sumeragi doing something that warranted her getting a colony ship named after her, which leads us to.
*** B she's dead. You don't name ships after living people as a general rule.
** The Sumeragi is entirely crewed by Innovators. This is portrayed in a very positive light, but it does raise the question- has society evolved into some kind of racially segregated Apartheid? It certainly isn't unarmed, it's called a "warship" and a suit similar to the GN archer does a fly by.
** Feldt. This has been said before, but what happened to her?
7th Jul '13 8:39:01 AM williamcll
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* Just what did sestuna do during those 50 years? Why does he even need to go to the ELS' system in the first place anyway?
17th Apr '13 9:31:39 PM nombretomado
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** 00 Qan[T] may not as powerful as the Turns in terms of raw destructive capabilities due to Moonlight Butterfly, but it's a very close second. Just think about it: In the whole ''{{Gundam}}'' multiverse so far, '''only''' the Turns and 00 Qan[T] have the capability to mess up an entire alien fleet ''by themselves''.

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** 00 Qan[T] may not as powerful as the Turns in terms of raw destructive capabilities due to Moonlight Butterfly, but it's a very close second. Just think about it: In the whole ''{{Gundam}}'' ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' multiverse so far, '''only''' the Turns and 00 Qan[T] have the capability to mess up an entire alien fleet ''by themselves''.



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9th Apr '12 8:03:23 AM Vigil
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*** The heavily-GN Particle infused armour on 00 verse gundams in general will cause trouble for the Moonlight Butterfly. GN Particles are exotic matter derived from topological defects, and will not play nice with things that operate on the molecular scale. Nanomachines are precision devices, and don't cope well at all with things way outside the design specs. Add in the known effects of high GN particle density on unshielded electronics, and the Butterfly might not work at all on Gundams, and certainly will lose it's instant kill effect. I'd wager a Twin Drive unit in TRANS-AM would be largely immune until TRANS-AM runs out.
18th Feb '12 8:18:28 AM Vigil
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** The Quantum Sword is the most powerful mobile suit weapon in any Gundam series. If you leave out the Raiser Sword, it's the most powerful by several orders of magnitude. The thing is a beam saber big enough to be mistaken for a superweapon Wave Motion Gun. Remember, it's an upgrade of a ground-to-geosynchronous orbit weapon. If you fired it straight down, instant volcano. A glancing hit from it's predecessor killed the second Memento Mori, when the first one survived an entire Trans-Am condensed into a single shot from Seravee.
** The ELS-upgraded version may also be flat-out immune to the Moonlight Butterfly. Technology-destroying nanites versus the ELS's shapechanging, regeneration and assimialtion is probably going to be a stalemate. Best case scenario for the Turn A in a fight with ELS!Quant is the regeneration function canceling assimilation and the ELS negating the Moonlight Butterfly.
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