History Headscratchers / GroundhogDay

18th Jun '17 1:24:06 PM nombretomado
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** The same reason [[Film/ItsAWonderfulLife George Bailey]] and [[AChristmasCarol Ebenezer Scrooge]] were picked for angelic/ghostly intervention.

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** The same reason [[Film/ItsAWonderfulLife George Bailey]] and [[AChristmasCarol [[Literature/AChristmasCarol Ebenezer Scrooge]] were picked for angelic/ghostly intervention.
18th Apr '17 1:01:09 PM benda
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**** Given Phil's schedule, I doubt he has enough time to spare by accompanying them and constantly making up new pretexts for staying. So yeah, what most likely happened was "You guys go ahead"-thing.
15th Apr '17 2:18:04 PM AbnormalMoose
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** It's a news van. It might have the capability of sending a feed of the footage back to the station remotely even if the other lines of communication are down.
15th Apr '17 9:37:52 AM DoctorNemesis
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*** He doesn't have to delay them all day or tell them anything about the roads being blocked, though; he just has to keep them long enough until it becomes clear that the blizzard's moved in and that they're stuck there no matter what. It appears that the snowstorm moves in pretty early, since on the first day when Phil tries to leave straight away they doesn't seem to get very far out of town before the snow arrives and the roads get closed. In the scene where Larry comes in and tells them they have to get going, Phil and Rita are (apparently) just bumming around the cafe having apparently finished everything they had to do so he's just assuming that they're ready to leave. If they're doing more work, however, then it takes longer for them to finish, so there's a greater chance that they might miss the window that the roads are still open for. If he's really determined to keep them in town and not just let them go while he hangs around by himself, all Phil has to do is use his knowledge of the day to find some things for them to do for long enough to keep them busy until the storm moves in ("Hey, I hear [X] has some interesting Groundhog Day stories, how about we spend some time talking to her? And if we want some nice establishing shots of the crowd, why don't we go over there and over there? And look, there looks like a bunch of folks having fun over there, how about we see what they're up to?" And so on), by which point it becomes clear that the snow's getting heavy and no one's going anywhere, whoops, guess we're stuck here, might as well make the most of it. And if they're really determined to leave before then, all he has to do is say "You guys go ahead, I might stick around a bit longer," like he did once before and let them go. It doesn't seem to be that big a moral dilemma, since he's hardly abandoning them to their deaths; at worst they're going to be turned around at the roadblock and come straight back.
7th Apr '17 2:08:36 PM benda
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*** Well, judging bythe complete lack of any awareness of his situation on her part on February 3 morning, you could tell he didn't really progress far with the explanation. Most likely he fell asleep as soon as they came back to the hotel.

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*** Well, judging bythe by the complete lack of any awareness of his situation on her part on February 3 morning, you could tell he didn't really progress far with the explanation. Most likely he fell asleep as soon as they came back to the hotel. Or she just ignored what he'd said.
7th Apr '17 2:07:18 PM benda
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*** Well, judging bythe complete lack of any awareness of his situation on her part on February 3 morning, you could tell he didn't really progress far with the explanation. Most likely he fell asleep as soon as they came back to the hotel.
7th Apr '17 1:28:24 PM benda
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*** Two simple points: 1) There might be a difference between "staying a bit longer" and "staying till the next day" (which is what will happen). Groundhog Day might not be breaking news but it still has to be ''news'' (unless it was planned for the weekend summary newsreel or something); 2) As for the roads - you're right in theory but remember, it's Larry who enters the cafe and says "We'd better move 'cause the blizzard's coming" - this despite him wanting to stay longer, like you wrote. Obviously he didn't know at the moment that the roads were ALREADY blocked. That's exactly what Phil has to tell him.

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*** Two simple points: 1) There might be a difference between "staying a bit longer" and "staying till the next day" (which is what will happen). Groundhog Day might not be breaking news but it still has to be ''news'' (unless it was planned for the weekend summary newsreel or something); 2) As for the roads - you're right in theory but remember, it's Larry who enters the cafe and says "We'd better move 'cause the blizzard's coming" - this despite him wanting to stay longer, like you wrote. Obviously he didn't know at the moment that the roads were ALREADY blocked. That's exactly what Phil has to tell him. And obviously, time factor is crucial for Phil, not for Rita and Larry. Of course, he might just leave them on their own like he once did... but from a moral point of view it's hardly better than sabotage, really, if they are gonna try to leave the town.
7th Apr '17 1:10:58 PM benda
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**** Two simple points: 1) There might be a difference between "staying a bit longer" and "staying till the next day" (which is what will happen). Groundhog Day might not be breaking news but it still has to be ''news'' (unless it was planned for the weekend summary newsreel or something); 2) As for the roads - you're right in theory but remember, it's Larry who enters the cafe and says "We'd better move 'cause the blizzard's coming" - this despite him wanting to stay longer, like you wrote. Obviously he didn't know at the moment that the roads were ALREADY blocked. That's exactly what Phil has to tell him.
5th Apr '17 12:32:53 AM DoctorNemesis
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*** How is the 'time factor' crucial here? If the others aren't in a particular hurry to leave (since they're the ones who suggest spending more time in the town to get more footage) and the station doesn't need the footage immediately (since Phil's stand-in is quite happy for him to spend longer in the town and is willing to cover for him and, well, it's just a cute little segment to be played with the weather, it's not Watergate or anything, who gives a shit?), then what's the rush? Remember, it's Phil who's the only one who wants to get out of there right away, and that's only because he's the GrumpyBear who hates the town and Groundhog Day and everything connected to it. If he's willing to stay in town a bit longer, clearly there's no problem with the crew staying in town a bit longer. As for how they'd learn the roads were closed without seeing it first hand, road closures aren't kept secret as a prank; they tend to be signposted and announced on local radio and television for the benefit of people who might be intending to use those roads in order to let them change their plans.

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*** How is the 'time factor' crucial here? If the others aren't in a particular hurry to leave (since they're the ones who suggest spending more time in the town to get more footage) and the station doesn't need the footage immediately (since Phil's stand-in is quite happy for him to spend longer in the town and is willing to cover for him and, well, it's just a cute little segment to be played with the weather, it's not Watergate or anything, who gives a shit?), anything), then what's the rush? Remember, it's Phil who's the only one who wants to get out of there right away, and that's only because he's the GrumpyBear who hates the town and Groundhog Day and everything connected to it. If he's willing to stay in town a bit longer, clearly there's no problem with the crew staying in town a bit longer. As for how they'd learn the roads were closed without seeing it first hand, road closures aren't kept secret as a prank; they tend to be signposted and announced on local radio and television for the benefit of people who might be intending to use those roads in order to let them change their plans.
5th Apr '17 12:32:32 AM DoctorNemesis
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*** How is the 'time factor' crucial here? If the others aren't in a particular hurry to leave (since they're the ones who suggest spending more time in the town to get more footage) and the station doesn't need the footage immediately (since Phil's stand-in is quite happy for him to spend longer in the town and is willing to cover for him and, well, it's just a cute little segment to be played with the weather, it's not Watergate or anything, who gives a shit?), then what's the rush? Remember, it's Phil who's the only one who wants to get out of there right away, and that's only because he's the GrumpyBear who hates the town and Groundhog Day and everything connected to it. If he's willing to stay in town a bit longer, clearly there's no problem with the crew staying in town a bit longer. As for how they'd learn the roads were closed without seeing it first hand, road closures aren't kept secret as a prank; they tend to be signposted and announced on local radio and television for the benefit of people who might be intending to use those roads in order to let them change their plans.
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