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** Because their concept albums, with a story and tropes of their own. Other albums, like TheWall have pages as well.
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** Because their they are concept albums, with a story and tropes of their own. Other albums, like TheWall have pages as well.
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** Because their concept albums, with a story and tropes of their own. Other albums, like TheWall have pages as well.
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* Why do ''American Idiot'' and ''21st Century Breakdown'' have their own pages? I understand that they are very different from Green Day's older material and polarizing for fans, but I can't think of any other band who has separate pages for their different albums. Even bands whose albums are much more different or polarizing than Green Day's (see: {{Guns N' Roses}}).
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* Why do ''American Idiot'' and ''21st Century Breakdown'' have their own pages? I understand that they are very different from Green Day's older material and polarizing for fans, but I can't think of any other band who has separate pages for their different albums. Even bands whose albums are much more different or polarizing than Green Day's (see: {{Guns N' Roses}}).[[{{GunsNRoses}} Guns 'N Roses]]).
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* Why do ''American Idiot'' and ''21st Century Breakdown'' have their own pages? I understand that they are very different from Green Day's older material and polarizing for fans, but I can't think of any other band who has separate pages for their different albums. Even bands whose albums are much more different or polarizing than Green Day's (see: {{Guns N' Roses}}).
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** See ItsPopularNowItSucks. When you have as much money as they do you tend to not give a shit.
-->I was a young boy who had big plans,
-->now I'm just another shitty old man
-->I don't have fun and I hate everything
-->the world owes me, so fuck you!
--> [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xKI8s0Zn3w "The Grouch"]]
-->I was a young boy who had big plans,
-->now I'm just another shitty old man
-->I don't have fun and I hate everything
-->the world owes me, so fuck you!
--> [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xKI8s0Zn3w "The Grouch"]]
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** That's the great thing about Green Day songs, many of them are written in hindsight from the point of view of an angsty teenage squatter punk. The songs can be taken either literally or sarcastically without being out of context (e.g. American Idiot). This more than anything else is what makes them so popular; they can appeal to a wide range of people.
*** Confused? CalvinAndHobbes does something similar, and its a good reference point for anyone familiar to it.
*** Confused? CalvinAndHobbes does something similar, and its a good reference point for anyone familiar to it.
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** Green Day used to be fun. They used to be sarcastic and at least somewhat witty. Then they got all serious and preachy. Dookie dealt with serious themes, but it did it with a snarl, and a wink and a laugh. American Idiot did it with a snarl, a sneer, and a frown.
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* Okay, so I'm a HUGE Green Day fan, and adore pretty much everything about them. So, my two favorite albums by them are ''American Idiot'' and ''21st Century Breakdown''. Something that's always bothered me is that whenever I tell people this they automaticall think I don't like the old music, when this isn't true at all. I love pretty much everything by this band. It just annoys me that when you say you like "new" Green Day, people automatically assume you can't like "old" Green Day as well.
** And sorry for my little rant here, but that's annoying too. To me, there isn't "old" or "new" Green Day. Yes, the sound may be a little different, but it's all the same band to me. Okay, rant over.
** And sorry for my little rant here, but that's annoying too. To me, there isn't "old" or "new" Green Day. Yes, the sound may be a little different, but it's all the same band to me. Okay, rant over.
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** Also, I swear the guitar solo is the melody from the theme song to {{Full House}}.
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****** The iTunes genre thing doesn't work half of the time anyway. Or if it does, Reel Fish is Pop and Reggae and Less Than Jake are Indie Rock.
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kinda obnoxious; I wish I\'d kept it to myself. well it was only on the page for a day or 2.
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**** The Mr. T Experience are pop punk. Green Day are {{Journey}} in clothes from Hot Topic.
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***** To the [[BrokenBase more-punk-than-thou]] crowd, what's a band whose singer has a [[REOSpeedwagon AOR-perfect voice]]? '''Not''' punk. Most of the same folks think TheRamones and CheapTrick are cool. Oh well, whatever, nevermind.
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***** To the [[BrokenBase more-punk-than-thou]] crowd, what's [[GreenDay a band band]] whose singer has a [[REOSpeedwagon AOR-perfect voice]]? '''Not''' voice? '''[[REOSpeedwagon Not]]''' punk. Most of the same folks think TheRamones and CheapTrick are cool. Oh well, whatever, nevermind.
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**** The Mr. T Experience are pop punk. Green Day are {{Journey}} in clothes from Hot Topic.
***** To the [[BrokenBase more-punk-than-thou]] crowd, what's a band whose singer has a [[REOSpeedwagon AOR-perfect voice]]? '''Not''' punk. Most of the same folks think TheRamones and CheapTrick are cool. Oh well, whatever, nevermind.
***** To the [[BrokenBase more-punk-than-thou]] crowd, what's a band whose singer has a [[REOSpeedwagon AOR-perfect voice]]? '''Not''' punk. Most of the same folks think TheRamones and CheapTrick are cool. Oh well, whatever, nevermind.
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* "Alt-punk". Y'know, like Blink-182. See? No muss, no fuss.
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**** Just label it Pop Punk. Its the result of punk music being influenced by the pop mainstream. As long as you aren't a 15 year old wannabe, and realize that Pop is as valid as any other form of music, then it won't bug you and will be accurate, while keeping it out of your Ramones and Sex Pistols playlist.
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**** Just label it Pop Punk. Its the result of punk music being influenced by the pop mainstream. As long as you aren't a 15 year old wannabe, and realize that Pop is as valid as any other form of music, then it won't bug you and will be accurate, while keeping it out of your Ramones and Sex Pistols playlist.
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* "Alt-punk". Y'know, like Blink-182. See? No muss, no fuss.
* "Alt-punk". Y'know, like Blink-182. See? No muss, no fuss.
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** As aforementioned, the first is hardly unique to Green Day fans. Refer to most of Hot Topic's clientele for more examples. As for the second, you really can't attribute someone thinking a band's breakout album was their first to anything other than [[DidNotDoTheResearch not looking it up]].
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** As well as "Telephone Line" by ElectricLightOrchestra and the Route 209 music from ''PokemonDiamondAndPearl''. Hey, with only so many (appealing) original melodies possible in music, it's bound to happen.
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** As well as "Telephone Line" by ElectricLightOrchestra and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXd9ISNMkqs the Route 209 music from from]] ''PokemonDiamondAndPearl''. Hey, with only so many (appealing) original melodies possible in music, it's bound to happen.
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** As well as "Telephone Line" by ElectricLightOrchestra and the Route 209 music from ''PokemonDiamondAndPearl''. Hey, with only so many (appealing) original melodies possible in music, it's bound to happen.
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**** Well, technically...it does.
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**** Just label it Pop Punk. Its the result of punk music being influenced by the pop mainstream. As long as you aren't a 15 year old wannabe, and realize that Pop is as valid as any other form of music, then it won't bug you and will be accurate, while keeping it out of your ramones Ramones and sex pistols Sex Pistols playlist.
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*** The motto doesn't have anything to do with the 7-11. The lyric could read: "I was taught that the motto: 'home is where your heart is' is just a lie in the parking lot of the 7-11" and be less confusing, but it wouldn't sound as good.
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* Is it just me, or is the refrain of "21 Guns" the same tune as "All The Young Dudes" by Mott the Hoople?
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* What is it with A LOT of supposed fans refusing to accept Billie Joe's bissexuality even tough he came out of the closet more than a decade ago? ''And'' has a freaking song (Coming Clean) about it?
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* What is it with A LOT of supposed fans refusing to accept Billie Joe's bissexuality even tough he came out of the closet more than a decade ago? ''And'' has a freaking song (Coming Clean) about it?
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** It's unfortunate, but it doesn't surprise me. Homosexuality, for various reasons, is becoming more and more widely accepted in the western world. Bisexuality, on the other hand, is seen as something significantly different to many people. Views range from bisexuality being impossible (i.e. nobody is ''really'' bisexual, they're just confused), to bisexuality being a state of indecisiveness or a blatant excuse to be promiscuous. Heck, human sexuality itself is still largely misunderstood by most people.
** It's unfortunate, but it doesn't surprise me. Homosexuality, for various reasons, is becoming more and more widely accepted in the western world. Bisexuality, on the other hand, is seen as something significantly different to many people. Views range from bisexuality being impossible (i.e. nobody is ''really'' bisexual, they're just confused), to bisexuality being a state of indecisiveness or a blatant excuse to be promiscuous. Heck, human sexuality itself is still largely misunderstood by most people.
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*** Thanks. I like their name better now. I always thought it had something to do with the environment.
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** I recall watching MTV back when the album Dookie first came out, and a VJ made the claim that both "Green Day" and "Dookie" were "bathroom references," in her words. Ever had a case of diarrhea that [[{{Squick}} caused your shit to turn green?]] This is what I have always assumed the VJ meant. Of course, this doesn't necessarily mean that this was the interpretation the band members had in mind when the chose their name. (It is not unheard of for musicians to be deliberately inconsistent and/or offensive when asked "What does your band name mean?" for the fiftieth time in the same day.)
** I recall watching MTV back when the album Dookie first came out, and a VJ made the claim that both "Green Day" and "Dookie" were "bathroom references," in her words. Ever had a case of diarrhea that [[{{Squick}} caused your shit to turn green?]] This is what I have always assumed the VJ meant. Of course, this doesn't necessarily mean that this was the interpretation the band members had in mind when the chose their name. (It is not unheard of for musicians to be deliberately inconsistent and/or offensive when asked "What does your band name mean?" for the fiftieth time in the same day.)
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** I've read in multiple sources that Ollie Armstrong was totally out of it because of painkillers after giving birth to Billie Joe and, as a result, spelled his name wrong on his birth certificate. What said birth certificate actually ''reads'' has never been released, but my theory is that she meant him to be "Billy Joe," spelled it "Billie Joe" on the birth certificate, and just went with it since, hey, it ''is'' the same name. Oprah Winfrey got her name by similar means, so it's not unheard of. Liner notes of early albums seem to imply he ''did'' go by "Billy Joe" for a while, but he's obviously gotten over that now.
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*I just hate when people think listening to Green Day automatically makes them "rebellious" and "nonconformist" and "badass". They talk about how they're "sticking it to the man" by listening to Green Day while talking about how they hate the government and other such things they often do not know shit about. There are also several people like this that I've met who think ''American Idiot'' was actually their first album.
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** It might also refer to the city's motto. In the song "Letterbomb", there's a lyric that goes "As the city's motto gets pulverized".
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** He probably had this [[NeverHeardThatOneBefore pointed out to him in school multiple times.]] Or otherwise, talk to his mother, Ollie.
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* Doesn't Billie realize that Billie is the ''femimine'' spelling of Billy? Its like the difference between "Joe" for a male and "Jo" for a female.
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**** Just label it Pop Punk. Its the result of punk music being influenced by the pop mainstream. As long as you aren't a 15 year old wannabe, and realize that Pop is as valid as any other form of music, then it won't bug you and will be accurate, while keeping it out of your ramones and sex pistols playlist.
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**[[FanDumb That sort of attitude]] is hardly unique to GreenDay fans, unfortunately.
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*What's with all the new Green Day haters? Yes, it's different then everything they've done before, but it's still great. It's getting (or gotten, it's a pretty thin line) to the point where you won't be taken seriously as a fan if you like anything they've done semi-recently. American Idiot is my favorite album by them, and 21st Century Breakdown is my least favorite (it's still great though). Somehow ''liking'' what they do makes me ''less'' of a fan?
