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** One possible explanation is that Goldfinger is just vain enough to rub his criminal genius faces in his rivals' faces before he kills them.

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** One possible explanation is that Goldfinger is just vain enough to rub his criminal genius faces in his rivals' faces before he kills them.


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** In the book, mind, Goldfinger's plan ''was'' pure RefugeInAudacity; it was 50% theft and 50% psychological warfare.
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** It's the broad scale, not the details. A lot of things are dated due to ValuesDissonance and a lot more things have the problem of being seen as cliche when this movie was in fact the TropeCodifier. But this movie is really a spy movie done ''right''; it has a villain with a great plot that is debatably insane (and thus larger-than-life) and isn't as cliche as 'rule the world' or something. It has a villain that is actually ''dangerous'' and carries out their operation quite intelligently. It has the hero getting by on his intelligence and talents, rather than taking advantage of the villain holding the IdiotBall (even most ''Bond movies'' don't get this right!). And so on.

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** It's the broad scale, not the details. A lot of things are dated due to ValuesDissonance and a lot more things have the problem of being seen as cliche when this movie was in fact the TropeCodifier. But this movie is really a spy movie done ''right''; it has a villain with a great plot that is debatably insane (and thus larger-than-life) and isn't as cliche as 'rule the world' or something. It has a villain that is actually ''dangerous'' and carries out their operation quite intelligently. It has the hero getting by on his intelligence and talents, rather than taking advantage of the villain holding the IdiotBall (even most ''Bond movies'' don't get this right!). And so on.on.
*** It's also chock full of classic scenes, like the laser between the legs, the Aston Martin, the gold paint, and the whole Fort Knox sequence. Goldfinger is also an awesome villain.

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** It’s entirely true that James Bond muddle’s through the entire movie and barely influences the outcome. Auric Goldfinger is always one step ahead of our hapless hero – and that’s what makes it awesome. Goldfinger’s plan isn’t particularly less common sense than most Bond Villain plots. . .

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** It’s entirely true that James Bond muddle’s through the entire movie and barely influences the outcome. Auric Goldfinger is always one step ahead of our hapless hero – and that’s what makes it awesome. Goldfinger’s plan isn’t particularly less common sense than most Bond Villain plots. . . .
** It's the broad scale, not the details. A lot of things are dated due to ValuesDissonance and a lot more things have the problem of being seen as cliche when this movie was in fact the TropeCodifier. But this movie is really a spy movie done ''right''; it has a villain with a great plot that is debatably insane (and thus larger-than-life) and isn't as cliche as 'rule the world' or something. It has a villain that is actually ''dangerous'' and carries out their operation quite intelligently. It has the hero getting by on his intelligence and talents, rather than taking advantage of the villain holding the IdiotBall (even most ''Bond movies'' don't get this right!). And so on.
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** The car isn't ''literally'' made out of gold, just gutted internally and loaded down with it.
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** Also possible is that the gangsters could still have caused trouble if they dispersed too quickly; he had to have SOMETHING flashy to keep all or most of them around so he could conveniently kill them. It's not like the car crusher trick would've been practical to do 10 times. It's explicitly stated that the gangsters' contacts helped with logistics, so it's plausible they could've potentially caused too much trouble if they left.
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*** Of course in typical YMMV TV Tropes fashion this exact reason is why I consider this to be one of the best Bond flicks because that is ''exactly how'' a real agent would behave. ''The ends justify the means'' is how every single intelligence service works when it comes to protecting your country - its the same way the early Bonds used to slap women about or Roger Moore essentially raping Solitaire. Later incarnations of Bond made him whiter than white until Daniel Craig and even he hasn't gone so far as to assault women yet.
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** His speech to the gangsters is an excuse to get them all together, let them drop their guards with promises of riches, and then kill them all to tie up loose ends that could be traced back to him. Chances are he was probably planning on killing Pussy and her pilots after they outlived their usefulness for the same reason.
** There's always the possibility that Goldfinger actually was NOT planning on killing the gangsters until one of them gangster refused to wait. After that, they all became expendable. Since his plan -if it succeeded- would've left him with riches beyond anybody's imagination, pay wasn't really an issue: he could've easily paid what he said he was going to.

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** His speech to the gangsters is an excuse to get them all together, let them drop their guards with promises of riches, and then kill them all to tie up loose ends that could be traced back to him. Chances are he was probably planning on killing Pussy and her pilots after [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness they outlived their usefulness usefulness]] for the same reason.
** There's always the possibility that Goldfinger actually was NOT planning on killing the gangsters until one of them gangster refused to wait. After that, they all became expendable. Since his plan -if it succeeded- would've left him with riches beyond anybody's imagination, pay wasn't really an issue: he could've easily paid what he said he was going to.
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** There's always the possibility that Goldfinger actually was NOT planning on killing the gangsters until one of them gangster refused to wait. After that, they all became expendable. Since his plan -if it succeeded- would've left him with riches beyond anybody's imagination, pay wasn't really an issue: he could've easily paid what he said he was going to.
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** It's fictional. It's not an actual medical effect.


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** FWIW, he doesn't rape her. He's not exactly a paragon of virtue, but she's clearly consenting just a few seconds into the kiss and there is nothing whatsoever to supporting that anything after that was forced on her.
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** Nobody ever said that Goldfinger's plan would have actually worked; he IS stated by Bond to be completely mad, after all.
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* Why is this considered one of the best bond movies, in my opinion it is one of the weaker entries. The villains plot makes no common sense the gold is already of the market so irradiating it will not really affect the price. Bond sleeps with villainesses who turn on their master without reason (in all other movies I have seen bad women he slept with and turned wear either unaware of or were unwilling participants in the big bads schemes) . The science of this world douses not fallow any laws of physics or biology that I have seen in any place even other bond films. And that is just scratching the surface and not getting into things like the possible rape of a lesbian. I am not complaining about this film or trolling I just want to know what other people see in it that I can not which will hopefully clear things up for me

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* Why is this considered one of the best bond movies, in my opinion it is one of the weaker entries. The villains plot makes no common sense the gold is already of the market so irradiating it will not really affect the price. Bond sleeps with villainesses who turn on their master without reason (in all other movies I have seen bad women he slept with and turned wear either unaware of or were unwilling participants in the big bads schemes) . The science of this world douses not fallow any laws of physics or biology that I have seen in any place even other bond films. And that is just scratching the surface and not getting into things like the possible rape of a lesbian. I am not complaining about this film or trolling I just want to know what other people see in it that I can not which will hopefully clear things up for meme
** It’s entirely true that James Bond muddle’s through the entire movie and barely influences the outcome. Auric Goldfinger is always one step ahead of our hapless hero – and that’s what makes it awesome. Goldfinger’s plan isn’t particularly less common sense than most Bond Villain plots. . .
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** Bond doesn't like cheaters. Plus he (and, seemingly, Jill) seriously underestimated just how much of a sore loser Goldfinger was. He probably knew he'd be pissed but he didn't know he'd be ''that'' pissed.

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** Bond doesn't like cheaters. Plus he (and, seemingly, Jill) seriously underestimated just how much of a sore loser Goldfinger was. He probably knew he'd be pissed but he didn't know he'd be ''that'' pissed.pissed.
*How exactly is somebody supposed to suffocate through their skin, I have heard that this was an urban legend but just about anybody who has done something like diving can tell you that is bs unless you are a frog. True you might overheat but that would take a much longer time.
*Why is this considered one of the best bond movies, in my opinion it is one of the weaker entries. The villains plot makes no common sense the gold is already of the market so irradiating it will not really affect the price. Bond sleeps with villainesses who turn on their master without reason (in all other movies I have seen bad women he slept with and turned wear either unaware of or were unwilling participants in the big bads schemes) . The science of this world douses not fallow any laws of physics or biology that I have seen in any place even other bond films. And that is just scratching the surface and not getting into things like the possible rape of a lesbian. I am not complaining about this film or trolling I just want to know what other people see in it that I can not which will hopefully clear things up for me
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** Explained in the movie. If they attacked Goldfinger as he approached, it's possible that he might have managed to escape with the bomb and just detonated it somewhere else. They had to trap both Goldfinger and the bomb with no hope of escape.

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** Explained in the movie. If they attacked Goldfinger as specifically told Bond that, if his plan was thwarted, he approached, it's possible that he might have managed to escape with the would take his bomb and just detonated set it somewhere else.off in a major city. They had to trap both Goldfinger and the bomb with no hope of escape.



** Well, gold is soft. The car must have steelgirders to strengthen it, otherwise the whole body would start to bend hither and thither.

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** Well, gold is soft. The car must have steelgirders steel to strengthen it, otherwise the whole body would start to bend hither and thither.



*** By coating it in radioactive fallout from the nuclear explosion. There's also the part where any attempted cover-up would face the problem of explaining why a tactical nuke went off on the grounds of Fort Knox.

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*** By coating it in radioactive fallout from the nuclear explosion.explosion, or blowing it to smithereens. There's also the part where any attempted cover-up would face the problem of explaining why a tactical nuke went off on the grounds of Fort Knox.
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* Why exactly did Bond interfere with Goldfinger's game at the start of the movie? It got him nothing, alerted Goldfinger to his existence and (indirectly) led to the deaths of two women.

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* Why exactly did Bond interfere with Goldfinger's game at the start of the movie? It got him nothing, alerted Goldfinger to his existence and (indirectly) led to the deaths of two women.women.
** Bond doesn't like cheaters. Plus he (and, seemingly, Jill) seriously underestimated just how much of a sore loser Goldfinger was. He probably knew he'd be pissed but he didn't know he'd be ''that'' pissed.
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** And this is really what keeps me from considering ''Goldfinger'' one of the best Bond movies. Bond saves Fort Knox by sexually assaulting Pussy Galore into submission.

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** And this is really what keeps me from considering ''Goldfinger'' one of the best Bond movies. Bond saves Fort Knox by sexually assaulting Pussy Galore into submission.submission.
* Why exactly did Bond interfere with Goldfinger's game at the start of the movie? It got him nothing, alerted Goldfinger to his existence and (indirectly) led to the deaths of two women.
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*** Oddly, the plan might have worked better if it would have caused slightly less catastrophic damage to the economy - gold tends to increase in cost somewhat faster than the average level of the economy (that was, as it happened, one reason why the Bretton Woods system became harder and harder to maintain as its end approached - the US gold reserve was being steadily drained to keep the price of gold in terms of dollars steady, as the 'natural' price kept rising and more and more gold had to be sold to keep the supply/demand ratio steady), so if his plan had somehow 'just' broken Bretton Woods and removed the gold in Fort Knox from the equation (thus bringing the potential supply down), the price of gold might very well have gone up relative to the rest of economy. Of course, his plan *wouldn't* just have done that, it'd have caused a global severe economic crisis... which would heavily depress demand for non-essentials, like gold.
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** Plot-wise, the tracker had to be disabled before Felix spotted Oddjob. Also, Oddjob had to dispose of the body and bring the gold, which the movie shows is very heavy, back to Goldfinger. Two birds with one stone I suppose.
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* As for Bond, he warns Goldfinger that if he dies, 008 will replace him. Goldfinger decides that, rather than end up a target of another MI6 agent who is not only at liberty but knows just as much of Goldfinger's plan as Bond does, decides to keep him alive for the time being, so MI6 will still think Bond is on top of things.
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* A rare case of it actually making it onto the screen. Movie Bond rattles off a list of statistics to Goldfinger regarding how moving the gold from Fort Knox would be logistically impossible. This is actually fan criticism of Fleming's original, where that was ''exactly'' what Goldfinger was trying to do.

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* A rare case of it actually making it onto the screen. Movie Bond rattles off a list of statistics to Goldfinger regarding how moving the gold from Fort Knox would be logistically impossible. This is actually fan criticism of Fleming's original, where that was ''exactly'' what Goldfinger was trying to do.

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* Goldfinger explains his entire plan to people he intends to kill. A possible explanation is that Goldfinger is just vain enough to rub his criminal genius faces in his rivals' faces before he kills them. As for Bond, he warns Goldfinger that if he dies, 008 will replace him. Goldfinger decides that, rather than end up a target of another MI6 agent who is not only at liberty but knows just as much of Goldfinger's plan as Bond does, decides to keep him alive for the time being, so MI6 will still think Bond is on top of things.
** Another example is glaringly unaddressed, though: Goldfinger explains his whole heist scheme to his gangster suppliers under the pretense of paying those who still want in 10 times the agreed amount. One of the gangsters refuses to participate and leaves with his one million. Of course [[spoiler:he's then killed off]]. But then it turns out [[spoiler:Goldfinger kills off the rest of the gangsters anyway, which makes the whole car-crushing business wholly unnecessary, not to mention the 10-million offer and the entire exposition scene]]. ''Especially'' when it's later revealed that [[spoiler:holding up Fort Knox was never even the plan to begin with, which means that Goldfinger had an entire elaborate exposition room built and disguised as a pool hall so he could sell his fake plans to people he was never going to pay only to immediately kill all of them]]. The closest thing to making sense this could possibly be would be that he originally ''did'' plan for things to go as he explains and then had the room built, only to change his mind later and figuring hey, the room's built anyway, might as well give it a spin just for giggles.
*** RogerEbert drew the same conclusion in [[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19990131/REVIEWS08/401010322/1023 his review]].

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* Goldfinger explains his entire plan to people he intends to kill. A possible explanation is that Goldfinger is just vain enough to rub his criminal genius faces in his rivals' faces before he kills them. As for Bond, he warns Goldfinger that if he dies, 008 will replace him. Goldfinger decides that, rather than end up a target of another MI6 agent who is not only at liberty but knows just as much of Goldfinger's plan as Bond does, decides to keep him alive for the time being, so MI6 will still think Bond is on top of things.
** Another example is glaringly unaddressed, though:
Goldfinger explains his whole heist scheme to his gangster suppliers under the pretense of paying those who still want in 10 times the agreed amount. One of the gangsters refuses to participate and leaves with his one million. Of course [[spoiler:he's he's then killed off]]. off. But then it turns out [[spoiler:Goldfinger Goldfinger kills off the rest of the gangsters anyway, which makes the whole car-crushing business wholly unnecessary, not to mention the 10-million offer and the entire exposition scene]]. scene. ''Especially'' when it's later revealed that [[spoiler:holding holding up Fort Knox was never even the plan to begin with, which means that Goldfinger had an entire elaborate exposition room built and disguised as a pool hall so he could sell his fake plans to people he was never going to pay only to immediately kill all of them]].them. The closest thing to making sense this could possibly be would be that he originally ''did'' plan for things to go as he explains and then had the room built, only to change his mind later and figuring hey, the room's built anyway, might as well give it a spin just for giggles.
*** ** RogerEbert drew the same conclusion in [[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19990131/REVIEWS08/401010322/1023 his review]].review]].
** One possible explanation is that Goldfinger is just vain enough to rub his criminal genius faces in his rivals' faces before he kills them.


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* As for Bond, he warns Goldfinger that if he dies, 008 will replace him. Goldfinger decides that, rather than end up a target of another MI6 agent who is not only at liberty but knows just as much of Goldfinger's plan as Bond does, decides to keep him alive for the time being, so MI6 will still think Bond is on top of things.

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* Goldfinger explains his entire plan to people he intends to kill. A possible explanation is that Goldfinger is just vain enough to rub his criminal genius faces in his rivals' faces before he kills them. As for Bond, he warns Goldfinger that if he dies, 008 will replace him. Goldfinger decides that, rather than end up a target of another MI6 agent who is not only at liberty but knows just as much of Goldfinger's plan as Bond does, decides to keep him alive for the time being, so MI6 will still think Bond is on top of things.

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* Goldfinger explains his entire plan to people he intends to kill. A possible explanation is that Goldfinger is just vain enough to rub his criminal genius faces in his rivals' faces before he kills them. As for Bond, he warns Goldfinger that if he dies, 008 will replace him. Goldfinger decides that, rather than end up a target of another MI6 agent who is not only at liberty but knows just as much of Goldfinger's plan as Bond does, decides to keep him alive for the time being, so MI6 will still think Bond is on top of things. things.
** Another example is glaringly unaddressed, though: Goldfinger explains his whole heist scheme to his gangster suppliers under the pretense of paying those who still want in 10 times the agreed amount. One of the gangsters refuses to participate and leaves with his one million. Of course [[spoiler:he's then killed off]]. But then it turns out [[spoiler:Goldfinger kills off the rest of the gangsters anyway, which makes the whole car-crushing business wholly unnecessary, not to mention the 10-million offer and the entire exposition scene]]. ''Especially'' when it's later revealed that [[spoiler:holding up Fort Knox was never even the plan to begin with, which means that Goldfinger had an entire elaborate exposition room built and disguised as a pool hall so he could sell his fake plans to people he was never going to pay only to immediately kill all of them]]. The closest thing to making sense this could possibly be would be that he originally ''did'' plan for things to go as he explains and then had the room built, only to change his mind later and figuring hey, the room's built anyway, might as well give it a spin just for giggles.
*** RogerEbert drew the same conclusion in [[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19990131/REVIEWS08/401010322/1023 his review]].



** Another example is glaringly unaddressed, though: Goldfinger explains his whole heist scheme to his gangster suppliers under the pretense of paying those who still want in 10 times the agreed amount. One of the gangsters refuses to participate and leaves with his one million. Of course [[spoiler:he's then killed off]]. But then it turns out [[spoiler:Goldfinger kills off the rest of the gangsters anyway, which makes the whole car-crushing business wholly unnecessary, not to mention the 10-million offer and the entire exposition scene]]. ''Especially'' when it's later revealed that [[spoiler:holding up Fort Knox was never even the plan to begin with, which means that Goldfinger had an entire elaborate exposition room built and disguised as a pool hall so he could sell his fake plans to people he was never going to pay only to immediately kill all of them]]. The closest thing to making sense this could possibly be would be that he originally ''did'' plan for things to go as he explains and then had the room built, only to change his mind later and figuring hey, the room's built anyway, might as well give it a spin just for giggles.
*** RogerEbert drew the same conclusion in [[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19990131/REVIEWS08/401010322/1023 his review]].
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* A rare case of it actually making it onto the screen. Movie Bond rattles off a list of statistics to Goldfinger regarding how moving the gold from Fort Knox would be logistically impossible. This is actually fan criticism of Fleming's original, where that was ''exactly'' what Goldfinger was trying to do.
** Another example is glaringly unaddressed, though: Goldfinger explains his whole heist scheme to his gangster suppliers under the pretense of paying those who still want in 10 times the agreed amount. One of the gangsters refuses to participate and leaves with his one million. Of course [[spoiler:he's then killed off]]. But then it turns out [[spoiler:Goldfinger kills off the rest of the gangsters anyway, which makes the whole car-crushing business wholly unnecessary, not to mention the 10-million offer and the entire exposition scene]]. ''Especially'' when it's later revealed that [[spoiler:holding up Fort Knox was never even the plan to begin with, which means that Goldfinger had an entire elaborate exposition room built and disguised as a pool hall so he could sell his fake plans to people he was never going to pay only to immediately kill all of them]]. The closest thing to making sense this could possibly be would be that he originally ''did'' plan for things to go as he explains and then had the room built, only to change his mind later and figuring hey, the room's built anyway, might as well give it a spin just for giggles.
*** RogerEbert drew the same conclusion in [[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19990131/REVIEWS08/401010322/1023 his review]].
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** His speech to the gangsters is an excuse to get them all together, let them drop their guards with promises of riches, and then kill them all to tie up loose ends that could be traced back to him. Chances are he was probably planning on killing Pussy and her pilots after they outlived their usefulness for the same reason.
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* If Pussy Galore was really bisexual (and not a lesbian as the book stated and the movie implied) why didn't they have at least one scene where she is shown being attracted to Bond prior to him "turning her.?" As it was, it looks like Bond raped her and THEN she "turned straight." I know that 60's weren't about subtlety...but come on...

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* If Pussy Galore was really bisexual (and not a lesbian as the book stated and the movie implied) why didn't they have at least one scene where she is shown being attracted to Bond prior to him "turning her.?" As it was, it looks like Bond raped her and THEN she "turned straight." I know that 60's weren't about subtlety...but come on...on...
** And this is really what keeps me from considering ''Goldfinger'' one of the best Bond movies. Bond saves Fort Knox by sexually assaulting Pussy Galore into submission.
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* If Pussy Galore was really bisexual (and not a lesbian as the book stated and the movie implied)why didn't they have at least one scene where she is shown being attracted to Bond prior to him "turning her.?" As it was,it looks like Bond raped her and THEN she "turned straight." I know that 60's weren't about subtlety...but come on...

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* If Pussy Galore was really bisexual (and not a lesbian as the book stated and the movie implied)why implied) why didn't they have at least one scene where she is shown being attracted to Bond prior to him "turning her.?" As it was,it was, it looks like Bond raped her and THEN she "turned straight." I know that 60's weren't about subtlety...but come on...
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** The real problem with the plan is that it effectively accomplishes nothing for Goldfinger. So his gold is worth 10x as much. That's just due to inflation. Everything would cost 10x as much. Not only that, but ruining the U.S. economy would severely damage most of Europe as well (acknowledged in the film). That means Goldfinger's other businesses would probably be harmed as well.

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** The real problem with the plan is that it effectively accomplishes nothing for Goldfinger. So his gold is worth 10x as much. That's just due to inflation. Everything would cost 10x as much. Not only that, but ruining the U.S. economy would severely damage most of Europe as well (acknowledged in the film). That means Goldfinger's other businesses would probably be harmed as well.well.
* If Pussy Galore was really bisexual (and not a lesbian as the book stated and the movie implied)why didn't they have at least one scene where she is shown being attracted to Bond prior to him "turning her.?" As it was,it looks like Bond raped her and THEN she "turned straight." I know that 60's weren't about subtlety...but come on...
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*** By coating it in radioactive fallout from the nuclear explosion. There's also the part where any attempted cover-up would face the problem of explaining why a tactical nuke went off on the grounds of Fort Knox.

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*** By coating it in radioactive fallout from the nuclear explosion. There's also the part where any attempted cover-up would face the problem of explaining why a tactical nuke went off on the grounds of Fort Knox.Knox.
** The real problem with the plan is that it effectively accomplishes nothing for Goldfinger. So his gold is worth 10x as much. That's just due to inflation. Everything would cost 10x as much. Not only that, but ruining the U.S. economy would severely damage most of Europe as well (acknowledged in the film). That means Goldfinger's other businesses would probably be harmed as well.
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** How was it supposed to work, anyway? Gold repels radiation.

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** How was it supposed to work, anyway? Gold repels radiation.radiation.
*** By coating it in radioactive fallout from the nuclear explosion. There's also the part where any attempted cover-up would face the problem of explaining why a tactical nuke went off on the grounds of Fort Knox.
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** It is *RARELY* handled, but it is occasionally handled. The ruse would only work until some creditor comes knocking demanding bullion or the Treasury decides to release gold to the public but there is no gold to release.

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** It is *RARELY* handled, but it is occasionally handled. The ruse would only work until some creditor comes knocking demanding bullion or the Treasury decides to release gold to the public but there is no gold to release.release.
** How was it supposed to work, anyway? Gold repels radiation.

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