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**** Also, would you kindly remember that THERE IS A HUGE FREAKING MONSTER CHASING THEM. And besides, there's an itsy-bitsy difference between biting off a finger and cutting off both arms. In the first case you just squeeze the stump. In the second, well, you most likely bleed to death.

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** Because, really, this is the ultimate crapsack world and the author is prone to torturing his characters just for the sake of proving how nasty this world is. It's just K'Seliss's turn on the wheel of torture, that's all. Sit back and enjoy his suffering. After all, this is the comic where alternate universe characters are being repeatedly tortured and killed in an endless loop like some unholy combination of Groundhog Day and Saw. So either giggle at their suffering and wait for the next nasty bit of turture to be inflicted on your favorite character, or it's not the comic for you.

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** Because, really, this is the ultimate crapsack world and the author is prone to torturing his characters just for the sake of proving how nasty this world is. It's just K'Seliss's turn on the wheel of torture, that's all. Sit back and enjoy his suffering. After all, this is the comic where alternate universe characters are being repeatedly tortured and killed in an endless loop like some unholy combination of Groundhog Day and Saw. So either giggle at their suffering and wait for the next nasty bit of turture to be inflicted on your favorite character, or it's not the comic for you. you.
*** In a less [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike bitter]] tone, perhaps, there are possibly several reasons. First, K'Seliss doesn't have any kind of bladed weapon, and Grem's sword is [[http://www.goblinscomic.com/02012010/ too short]] to cut through K'Seliss's wrists. Second, it's kind of hard to cut off your melting hands when [[ShapedLikeItself ...your hands are melting.]] Third, it's unknown what kind of regenerative power K'Seliss has (presumably ''some'' version of regeneration, or else his race wouldn't have incorporated cannibalism into their social greetings), so he might think it's worth it to try and salvage his hands rather than to lose them and attempt to regrow them.
**** And lastly...as for why the characters suffer so badly, they're D&D characters in a world with a KillerGameMaster. Plus, y'know, {{Conflict}}.
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** Because, really, this is the ultimate crapsack world and the author is prone to torturing his characters just for the sake of proving how nasty this world is. It's just K'Seliss's turn on the wheel of torture, that's all. Sit back and enjoy his suffering. After all, this is the comic where alternate universe characters are being repeatedly tortured and killed in an endless loop like some unholy combination of Groundhog Day and Saw. So either giggle at their suffering and wait for the next nasty bit of turture to be inflicted on your favorite character, or it's not the comic for you.
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*About the current story arc with Dies Horribly: why doesn't K'Seliss just cut off his hands? If biting off a finger is a way of casual greeting among his people, surely amputation would be a much more viable alternative than trying to suffer through whatever is happening to his hands?
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*** Considering that the entire city was very, very pissed at him, I think it's likely that any clerics in the city were forbidden from helping him. [[spoiler:And he died like two days later, so again, moot point.]]
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** Why WOULDN'T they be magical items anyways? Kore is freakishly high level and it's more than likely that he would have magical items. The dards are probably self-regenerating. However, it is still perfectly possible that Kore may be titan-level strong.
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*** I am suddenly reminded of Sir Zeliek from WorldOfWarcraft who has EXACTLY this as his shtick.
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** Considering the comic he is in, I am willing to bet that any death worthy of the adjective "horribly" involves prolonged and agonizing torture.
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* Not a Paladin (class), just a Paladin (title). If Miko from OrderOfTheStick can claim to be a Samurai... (Monk/Paladin, as a fact)

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* ** Not a Paladin (class), just a Paladin (title). If Miko from OrderOfTheStick can claim to be a Samurai... (Monk/Paladin, as a fact)
** Possibly Kore isn't just a paladin, but a paladin who's been taken over by some implacable, merciless, genocidal force. It's not that he's committing evil acts and keeping his powers; it's that the ''force'' is committing evil acts, using his body and abilities, paladin powers included, to carry them out. If he's dominated by something else, then his deeds genuinely aren't his fault and his deity may not consider them grounds for a fall. In effect, Kore-the-true-paladin might be a glove puppet and human (well, dwarven) shield for Kore-the-slaughtering-menace.


















*** Thaco doesn't seem like the sort of person to sit by while his friends and family are brutally murdered, jus,t becuase he was told not to fight.

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*** Thaco doesn't seem like the sort of person to sit by while his friends and family are brutally murdered, jus,t becuase just because he was told not to fight.



** "Horribly" is subjective. As dying is already an horrible thing on itself, it's due to interpreter that his dead will be so horrible and tragic to earn him the name. Actually, in his shoes, I would charge in any mundane-looking battle, as dying in battle is not specifically bad for goblins. Ancient temples and cursed lands, instead, are a no-no.

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** "Horribly" is subjective. As dying is already an a horrible thing on itself, it's due to interpreter that his dead will be so horrible and tragic to earn him the name. Actually, in his shoes, I would charge in any mundane-looking battle, as dying in battle is not specifically bad for goblins. Ancient temples and cursed lands, instead, are a no-no.



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*** The story is from the goblins perspective. People don't become main characters by being neuteral. They do portray people being nueteral we just don't remember those countless faceless people. That being said the Dwarf though not human was portrayed as good. Ignoring actions done for their own side of the fantastic racism scism are the Goblins portrayed any better than people. Goblins are shown to suffer from fantastic racism too even the main cast. It is enough for the goblins to say that the non-elite guard are just protecting their city the comic doesn't do much more to show the goblins are just protecting their village. The point is creatures on both sides have to learn if fantastic racism is going to end.
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** Did you ''read the blasted comic!?'' "I didn't kill Dellyn. I destroyed him." Dellyn saw Thaco as a rival, and would go down in history as the slayer of Thaco the Goblin. Now, he has to live with the fact that he was taken down by a 2nd-level Goblin ''Monk''. Or not, since Kin killed him.
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** Besides, so far they've only killed a bunch of undead orks and evil sadistic wretches from the Elite Guard. They went to lenghts to avoid civilian casualties. What else do you need?
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\n** This is a D&D World. Your complaints about items become irrelevant once I say the word "Homebrew."
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*** No, I don't think we have. Still, they probably exist somewhere. [[spoiler:Though if they do it's probably Dellyn who will be getting the resurrection.]]

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*** No, I don't think we have. Still, they probably exist somewhere. [[spoiler:Though if they do [[spoiler: Though now that Dellyn is dead, it's probably Dellyn who will be getting the resurrection.something of a moot point.]]
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*** No, I don't think we have. Still, they probably exist somewhere. [[spoiler:Though if they do it's probably Dellyn who will be getting the resurrection.]]
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** I don't think it's impossible so much as high level clerics are hard to come by. Have we actually seen any 9th level clerics?
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* I can't be the only one who wonders why Dellyn didn't just get Saral Caine resurrected, instead of acting like his death was totally irreversible. I mean, he probably has the funds to afford a Raise Dead or Resurrection, and a cleric with one of those spells shouldn't be too hard to find. Is resurrection impossible in the world this comic takes place in?
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* The updating just bugs me sometimes. I know the time to do updates varies widely based on the complexity of the page (and I don't blame Thunt for that). It's when he says on his blog "Update's almost done! It'll be up late-monday." and it isn't. In fact it goes up in the middle of Tuesday for me, and I live in the same timezone as him. For some folks around the world that's actually early ''wednesday'' morning. Argh.
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* Those crossbows can't exists, for so much reasons that it would require a dedicated page. The only possible explaining out of [[AWizardDidIt magical items]] is that Kore is titan-level strong, enough to force down ''sixteen'' crossbows in a casual movement, and that there is a trully amazing engineering behind the recharge gizmo. Given that, metal dards so short, heavy and with no fletching are useful only at very short range, but that would be ok, as Kore uses them like shotguns.


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[[WMG: Kore's '''Kore's crossbows, and associate FunDumb]]
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* Those crossbows can't exists, for so much reasons that it would require a dedicated page. The only possible explaining out of [[AWizardDidIt magical items]] is that Kore is titan-level strong, enough to force down ''sixteen'' crossbows in a casual movement, and that there is a trully amazing engineering behind the recharge gizmo. Given that, metal dards so short, heavy and with no fletching are useful only at very short range, but that would be ok, OK, as Kore uses them like shotguns.




** The goblins being called a perversion or unnatural have nothing to do with how they act, but by the fact that they took character class, which is more along the way of going against every traditions, or what the character consider the natural order of things. There's lots of hypocrisy in this position too.

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** The goblins being called a perversion or unnatural by others have nothing to do with how they act, but by from the simple fact that they took character class, classes, which is more along the way of going against every traditions, or what the character consider is widely considered the natural order of things. There's lots of hypocrisy in this position too.
** Also, the goblins justify themselves by saying those classes and levels are used to protect their kind from adventurers. Basically, they're choosing to fight fire with fire.
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** He has recently used Lay on Hands. Now to figure out how the hell he still has his powers, considering he commits murder. Hopefully Thunt gives some sort of explanation for this, unless torture and murder are not evil acts in his world. Which could be considered to be worse than Minmax sprouting wings, breathing fire, and suddenly speaking Druidic.

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* The "hero" Goblins considered all adventurers as horrendous, souless monsters who kills and loot for Exp and levels. Then the Goblins themselves decide they had enough of that, so they decide to become adventurers... and they start doing the same thing they claimed to hate, but they justify themselves by saying it's OK. What the hell, guys? It gets lampshaded a few times during the comic and both good and bad people agree they are the worst, unnatural scum ever.
** The goblins being called a perversion or unnatural have nothing to do with how they act, but by the fact that they took character class, which is more along the way of going against every traditions, or what the character consider the natural order of things. There's lots of hypocrisy in this position too.



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** Chief [[spoiler: lasted through a couple of attacks, but can't even apparently land a point of damage.]] So far, your fears are averted.
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* Why doesn't the comic obey [[MagicAIsMagicA consistent internal rules]]? It described itself as following the D&D system, similar to OrderOfTheStick, but Thaco (Who at this point is a level 1 warrior with generic NPC stats) is able to go toe-to-toe with Minimax (A quote-brokenly twinked-unquote fighter) without being instantly killed. Even counting his magic gear, if Minimax was half-decently built he'd have skewered Nameless Goblin #027 instantly. There's also a few more examples similar to that, wherin level 0 NPCs go toe-to-toe with actual PC-strength characters and live for more than one combat round, for reasons that would make perfect sense in real life but none in a world that follows D&D stats like this one.

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* Why doesn't the comic obey [[MagicAIsMagicA consistent internal rules]]? It described itself as following the D&D system, similar to OrderOfTheStick, but Thaco (Who at this point is a level 1 warrior with generic NPC stats) is able to go toe-to-toe with Minimax (A quote-brokenly twinked-unquote fighter) without being instantly killed. Even counting his magic gear, if Minimax was half-decently built he'd have skewered Nameless Goblin #027 instantly. There's also a few more examples similar to that, wherin level 0 NPCs [=NPCs=] go toe-to-toe with actual PC-strength characters and live for more than one combat round, for reasons that would make perfect sense in real life but none in a world that follows D&D stats like this one.



* Why is the Goblin Adventuring Party so goddamned lucky? Characters are touted as high and mighty and then...defeated in solo combat. They keep getting such broken items. All tension is thus lost and the action scenes, which feel long due to the pacing, are all the more painful, as the conclusions are foregone. It feels like Thunt panned out the entire story, realized just how much of the events rely on the laws of dramatic probability and thus stuck in Thaco and Chief's lecture on luck so no one has to worry why the unlikely events of the story are never addressed. To elaborate, my favorite action scenes (besides Kore's first slaughter) are the "PCs" versus the goblins and the "PCs" versus Dellyn. Both are good because they involved clever teamwork rather than Mary Sues rolling 20s against the unluckiest and most overhyped racists ever. The former is also good because the good guys are largely the losers in the fight (yes, the PCs lose 3 out of 5 people, but 2 of them died off comically so I let those pass), and it gave the impression that this could be a work where the tension will always be high and you won't always know the outcome. As I am writing this, [[spoiler:Chief is fighting Kore]], so hopefully I am proven completely wrong. However, I also fear that the threat of Kore will be greatly reduced after this in case the "real" danger is supposed to be the White Terror or someone else.

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* Why is the Goblin Adventuring Party so goddamned lucky? Characters are touted as high and mighty and then...defeated in solo combat. They keep getting such broken items. All tension is thus lost and the action scenes, which feel long due to the pacing, are all the more painful, as the conclusions are foregone. It feels like Thunt panned out the entire story, realized just how much of the events rely on the laws of dramatic probability and thus stuck in Thaco and Chief's lecture on luck so no one has to worry why the unlikely events of the story are never addressed. To elaborate, my favorite action scenes (besides Kore's first slaughter) are the "PCs" "[=PCs=]" versus the goblins and the "PCs" "[=PCs=]" versus Dellyn. Both are good because they involved clever teamwork rather than Mary Sues rolling 20s against the unluckiest and most overhyped racists ever. The former is also good because the good guys are largely the losers in the fight (yes, the PCs [=PCs=] lose 3 out of 5 people, but 2 of them died off comically so I let those pass), and it gave the impression that this could be a work where the tension will always be high and you won't always know the outcome. As I am writing this, [[spoiler:Chief is fighting Kore]], so hopefully I am proven completely wrong. However, I also fear that the threat of Kore will be greatly reduced after this in case the "real" danger is supposed to be the White Terror or someone else.
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** "Horribly" is subjective. As dying is already an horrible thing on itself, it's due to interpreter that his dead will be so horrible and tragic to earn him the name. Actually, in his shoes, I would charge in any mundane-looking battle, as dying in battle is not specifically bad for goblins. Ancient temples and cursed lands, instead, are a no-no.

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*** My guess, he was never one in the frist place, however a LawfulEvil (thanks to 4th ed) Paladin order is just using him wend they want something dead

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*** My guess, he was never one in the frist first place, however a LawfulEvil (thanks to 4th ed) Paladin order is just using him wend when they want something deaddead
* Not a Paladin (class), just a Paladin (title). If Miko from OrderOfTheStick can claim to be a Samurai... (Monk/Paladin, as a fact)



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* Those crossbows can't exists, for so much reasons that it would require a dedicated page. The only possible explaining out of [[AWizardDidIt magical items]] is that Kore is titan-level strong, enough to force down ''sixteen'' crossbows in a casual movement. Given that, metal dards so short and with such small wings are useful only at very short range, but that would be ok, as Kore uses them like shotguns.

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* Those crossbows can't exists, for so much reasons that it would require a dedicated page. The only possible explaining out of [[AWizardDidIt magical items]] is that Kore is titan-level strong, enough to force down ''sixteen'' crossbows in a casual movement. movement, and that there is a trully amazing engineering behind the recharge gizmo. Given that, metal dards so short short, heavy and with such small wings no fletching are useful only at very short range, but that would be ok, as Kore uses them like shotguns.
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[[WMG: Kore's crossbows, and all the FunDumb they generate]]
* Those crossbows can't exists, for so much reasons that it would require a dedicated page. The only possible explaining out of [[AWizardDidIt magical items]] is that Kore is titan-level strong, enough to force down ''sixteen'' crossbows in a casual movement. Given that, metal dards so short and with such small wings are useful only at very short range, but that would be ok, as Kore uses them like shotguns.
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* Why is the Goblin Adventuring Party so goddamned lucky? Characters are touted as high and mighty and then...defeated in solo combat. They keep getting such broken items. All tension is thus lost and the action scenes, which feel long due to the pacing are made, are all the more painful, as the conclusions are foregone. It feels like Thunt panned out the entire story, realized just how much of the events rely on the laws of dramatic probability and thus stuck in Thaco and Chief's lecture on luck so no one has to worry why the unlikely events of the story are never addressed. To elaborate, my favorite action scenes (besides Kore's first slaughter) are the "PCs" versus the goblins and the "PCs" versus Dellyn. Both are good because they involved clever teamwork rather than Mary Sues rolling 20s against the unluckiest and most overhyped racists ever. The former is also good because the good guys are largely the losers in the fight (yes, the PCs lose 3 out of 5 people, but 2 of them died off comically so I let those pass), and it gave the impression that this could be a work where the tension will always be high and you won't always know the outcome. As I am writing this, [[spoiler:Chief is fighting Kore]], so hopefully I am proven completely wrong. However, I also fear that the threat of Kore will be greatly reduced after this in case the "real" danger is supposed to be the White Terror or someone else.

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* Why is the Goblin Adventuring Party so goddamned lucky? Characters are touted as high and mighty and then...defeated in solo combat. They keep getting such broken items. All tension is thus lost and the action scenes, which feel long due to the pacing are made, pacing, are all the more painful, as the conclusions are foregone. It feels like Thunt panned out the entire story, realized just how much of the events rely on the laws of dramatic probability and thus stuck in Thaco and Chief's lecture on luck so no one has to worry why the unlikely events of the story are never addressed. To elaborate, my favorite action scenes (besides Kore's first slaughter) are the "PCs" versus the goblins and the "PCs" versus Dellyn. Both are good because they involved clever teamwork rather than Mary Sues rolling 20s against the unluckiest and most overhyped racists ever. The former is also good because the good guys are largely the losers in the fight (yes, the PCs lose 3 out of 5 people, but 2 of them died off comically so I let those pass), and it gave the impression that this could be a work where the tension will always be high and you won't always know the outcome. As I am writing this, [[spoiler:Chief is fighting Kore]], so hopefully I am proven completely wrong. However, I also fear that the threat of Kore will be greatly reduced after this in case the "real" danger is supposed to be the White Terror or someone else.

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*Why is the Goblin Adventuring Party so goddamned lucky? Characters are touted as high and mighty and then...defeated in solo combat. They keep getting such broken items. All tension is thus lost and the action scenes, which feel long due to the pacing are made, are all the more painful, as the conclusions are foregone. It feels like Thunt panned out the entire story, realized just how much of the events rely on the laws of dramatic probability and thus stuck in Thaco and Chief's lecture on luck so no one has to worry why the unlikely events of the story are never addressed. To elaborate, my favorite action scenes (besides Kore's first slaughter) are the "PCs" versus the goblins and the "PCs" versus Dellyn. Both are good because they involved clever teamwork rather than Mary Sues rolling 20s against the unluckiest and most overhyped racists ever. The former is also good because the good guys are largely the losers in the fight (yes, the PCs lose 3 out of 5 people, but 2 of them died off comically so I let those pass), and it gave the impression that this could be a work where the tension will always be high and you won't always know the outcome. As I am writing this, [[spoiler:Chief is fighting Kore]], so hopefully I am proven completely wrong. However, I also fear that the threat of Kore will be greatly reduced after this in case the "real" danger is supposed to be the White Terror or someone else.
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*** The name comes from the vision a fortune teller from his future. I'm pretty sure if there were t-shirts involved, he would know.
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** Probably the fact that right now, he is in very real danger of dying. Though unless the goblins have a written alphabet, it could turn out [[DyesHorribly he is very, very bad at coloring T-shirts...]]

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