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** RuleOfCool. Say what you want about [[spoiler:Yomeil, but you can't deny that the guy's got ''style'']].
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** It's pretty much stated that [[spoiler:Yomeil had totally lost it. He'd careened over the DespairEventHorizon essentially from the moment he walked out of the morgue and discovered what had happened to him. Things ''[[ItGotWorse went downhill from there]]'', and it took five years of steadily growing despair and loneliness before he took action against those he'd decided were responsible for his pain. That doesn't mean anything he did was anywhere ''near'' the realm of okay. Once Lynne snaps him back to sanity and he has a HeelFaceTurn, he himself says this straight out]].
--->[[spoiler:'''Jowd:''' We might not be able to change your fate of dying.]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Yomiel:''' ...]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Yomiel:''' I can accept that.]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Jowd:''' ...!]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Yomiel:''' What I did is inexcusable. No matter how the future might change, that fact will never go away. If my fate is to die here... [''smiles''] then I accept that.]]
** (continued) [[spoiler:RedemptionEqualsDeath is averted when he's thrown back onto a spike, but is merely rendered unconscious. His response to this?]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Sissel:''' [''after seeing Yomeil impaled through the back on a spike''] This fate is too painful to watch -- in every sense...]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Yomiel:''' I don't think so. [''grins''] As long as I'm alive... that's good enough for me.]]
** (continued) He wasn't a DeathSeeker; he had simply accepted that death would be his fate. He was ''relieved'' that it had changed. Except... [[spoiler:Lynne was about to be crushed by the massive mino, with no conceivable way to save her. Jowd, Sissel, and Missile were panicking, because there was ''nothing'' they could do. By virtue of simply not doing a damn thing, Yomeil could easily have forced Sissel to go with the plan that Yomeil had suggested: Let Lynne die, then just go back and change her past, psychological scars be damned.\\
Instead, Yomeil reminds them of [[PeoplePuppets his own power]], and promptly throws ''his own body'' into the path of the mino to save her, believing that he would die with no chance of being brought back. He would be crushed to death, his fiancee would commit suicide ''again''... and he did it anyway.\\
Personally, while I don't think that any of that ''excuses'' him -- Yomiel himself said it best, that nothing he could do would be enough to excuse him -- I think that what he did after going back to the past, along with willingly spending ten years in jail to pay for the crimes that he still did commit in the changed timeline, ''and'' the fact that they [[EarnYourHappyEnding earned a happy ending]] and no one but the four of them would ever remember all of that suffering, it's [[{{YMMV}} conceivably]] enough to ''forgive'' him. Not forgive his actions, but to forgive Yomeil himself.]] Or at least put the past where it belongs and move on.\\
I'd also like to point out that while he did [[spoiler:take Lynne hostage before he went nuts, he was clearly panicked and desperate at the time, and it's never made clear whether or not he actually would have harmed her. Again, taking a child hostage is ''[[{{Understatement}} not okay]]''. But there's still a huge difference between "taking hostage" and "killing".]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Jowd:''' We might not be able to change your fate of dying.]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Yomiel:''' ...]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Yomiel:''' I can accept that.]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Jowd:''' ...!]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Yomiel:''' What I did is inexcusable. No matter how the future might change, that fact will never go away. If my fate is to die here... [''smiles''] then I accept that.]]
** (continued) [[spoiler:RedemptionEqualsDeath is averted when he's thrown back onto a spike, but is merely rendered unconscious. His response to this?]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Sissel:''' [''after seeing Yomeil impaled through the back on a spike''] This fate is too painful to watch -- in every sense...]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Yomiel:''' I don't think so. [''grins''] As long as I'm alive... that's good enough for me.]]
** (continued) He wasn't a DeathSeeker; he had simply accepted that death would be his fate. He was ''relieved'' that it had changed. Except... [[spoiler:Lynne was about to be crushed by the massive mino, with no conceivable way to save her. Jowd, Sissel, and Missile were panicking, because there was ''nothing'' they could do. By virtue of simply not doing a damn thing, Yomeil could easily have forced Sissel to go with the plan that Yomeil had suggested: Let Lynne die, then just go back and change her past, psychological scars be damned.\\
Instead, Yomeil reminds them of [[PeoplePuppets his own power]], and promptly throws ''his own body'' into the path of the mino to save her, believing that he would die with no chance of being brought back. He would be crushed to death, his fiancee would commit suicide ''again''... and he did it anyway.\\
Personally, while I don't think that any of that ''excuses'' him -- Yomiel himself said it best, that nothing he could do would be enough to excuse him -- I think that what he did after going back to the past, along with willingly spending ten years in jail to pay for the crimes that he still did commit in the changed timeline, ''and'' the fact that they [[EarnYourHappyEnding earned a happy ending]] and no one but the four of them would ever remember all of that suffering, it's [[{{YMMV}} conceivably]] enough to ''forgive'' him. Not forgive his actions, but to forgive Yomeil himself.]] Or at least put the past where it belongs and move on.\\
I'd also like to point out that while he did [[spoiler:take Lynne hostage before he went nuts, he was clearly panicked and desperate at the time, and it's never made clear whether or not he actually would have harmed her. Again, taking a child hostage is ''[[{{Understatement}} not okay]]''. But there's still a huge difference between "taking hostage" and "killing".]]
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* [[spoiler: In new timeline at the end of the game, Yomiel has been in prison for TEN YEARS...]] But for what, exactly? He was proven innocent of the conspiracy in which he was implicated, and even though he [[spoiler: broke out of prison and took a hostage, he then saved her life immediately after.]] Why on earth would this result in such a punishment? And couldn't Jowd have stopped it?
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*** Two human humans who have [[FridgeHorror NO FUTURE]]
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*** Then wouldn't Yomiel know that Sith was backstabbing him by interfering with his revenge plans?
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* Why can't you control clothes and accessories? You control a shirt in the Chicken Kitchen's kitchen, and are able to scrunch and stretch it to get across the wire, and then there's the time you can control the guard's bulletproof vests, but you can never control clothes that anyone is wearing.
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* Why can't you control clothes and accessories? You control a shirt in the Chicken Kitchen's kitchen, and are able to scrunch and stretch it to get across the wire, and then there's the time you can control the guard's bulletproof vests, but you can never control clothes that anyone is wearing.wearing.
** You can't exert enough physical force to overcome any significant resistance. You can only move the shirt because it's lightweight. You only hitch a ride on the bulletproof vests, you can't unbuckle them or use them to push the guards around.
** You can't exert enough physical force to overcome any significant resistance. You can only move the shirt because it's lightweight. You only hitch a ride on the bulletproof vests, you can't unbuckle them or use them to push the guards around.
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** Ghosts can change their appearance at will, as proven when [[spoiler:Lynne takes the form of Cabanela accidentally, and when Sissel abandons Yomiel's appearance to become a flame with glasses and then a cat]]. [[spoiler:Missile-prime probably didn't actually age, he just wanted to look like a CoolOldGuy.]]
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** Ghosts can change their appearance at will, as proven when [[spoiler:Lynne takes the form of Cabanela accidentally, and when Sissel abandons Yomiel's appearance to become a flame with glasses and then a cat]]. [[spoiler:Missile-prime probably didn't actually age, he just wanted to look like a CoolOldGuy.]]]]
* Why can't you control clothes and accessories? You control a shirt in the Chicken Kitchen's kitchen, and are able to scrunch and stretch it to get across the wire, and then there's the time you can control the guard's bulletproof vests, but you can never control clothes that anyone is wearing.
* Why can't you control clothes and accessories? You control a shirt in the Chicken Kitchen's kitchen, and are able to scrunch and stretch it to get across the wire, and then there's the time you can control the guard's bulletproof vests, but you can never control clothes that anyone is wearing.
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** Ghosts can change their appearance at will, as proven when [[spoiler:Lynne takes the form of Cabanela accidentally, and when Sissel abandons Yomiel's appearance to become a flame with glasses and then a cat]]. [[Spoiler:Missile-prime probably didn't actually age, he just wanted to look like a CoolOldGuy.]]
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** Ghosts can change their appearance at will, as proven when [[spoiler:Lynne takes the form of Cabanela accidentally, and when Sissel abandons Yomiel's appearance to become a flame with glasses and then a cat]]. [[Spoiler:Missile-prime [[spoiler:Missile-prime probably didn't actually age, he just wanted to look like a CoolOldGuy.]]
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* The fact the games stops time as soon as the person you're trying to save dies [[JustBugsMe Just Bugs Me]]. It'd be cool to see people's reactions to your changes, even if the crime succeeded like for example [[spoiler:I can totally envision a FlatWhat from Yomiel if Sissel replaces the bullet with an iron helmet mid-flight.]]
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* So why does [[spoiler: Missile-prime [[spoiler:Missile-prime look so much older than Missile despite being a ghost for ten years? You'd figure he'd remain looking the age he did when he died, right?]]right?]]
** Ghosts can change their appearance at will, as proven when [[spoiler:Lynne takes the form of Cabanela accidentally, and when Sissel abandons Yomiel's appearance to become a flame with glasses and then a cat]]. [[Spoiler:Missile-prime probably didn't actually age, he just wanted to look like a CoolOldGuy.]]
** Ghosts can change their appearance at will, as proven when [[spoiler:Lynne takes the form of Cabanela accidentally, and when Sissel abandons Yomiel's appearance to become a flame with glasses and then a cat]]. [[Spoiler:Missile-prime probably didn't actually age, he just wanted to look like a CoolOldGuy.]]
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* So why does [[spoiler: Missile-prime look so much older than Missile despite being a ghost for ten years? You'd figure he'd remain looking the age he did when he died, right?]]
* So why does [[spoiler: Missile-prime look so much older than Missile despite being a ghost for ten years? You'd figure he'd remain looking the age he did when he died, right?]]
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* The fact the games stops time as soon as the person you're trying to save dies JustBugsMe. It'd be cool to see people's reactions to your changes, even if the crime succeeded like for example [[spoiler:I can totally envision a FlatWhat from Yomiel if Sissel replaces the bullet with an iron helmet mid-flight.]]
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* The fact the games stops time as soon as the person you're trying to save dies JustBugsMe.[[JustBugsMe Just Bugs Me]]. It'd be cool to see people's reactions to your changes, even if the crime succeeded like for example [[spoiler:I can totally envision a FlatWhat from Yomiel if Sissel replaces the bullet with an iron helmet mid-flight.]]
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**** [[spoiler: Maybe he felt he still had to repent for everything he did in the original timeline?]]
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* So in [[spoiler: the final timeline, Sissel appears to have been hit by a shard of the Temsik meteorite, but did he survive that, or has he gone into an undead state the same way Yomiel did?]]
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** [[spoiler:Pretty much. He hasn't changed at all in ten years.]]
** [[spoiler:Pretty much. He hasn't changed at all in ten years.]]
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** It's also possible to feel sympathy for a person without condoning their actions, and after [[spoiler: spending ten years as a ghost]] he probably wasn't that mentally stable anyway. [[spoiler: Yomiel's tribute to Sissel wouldn't just have been for saving him from an undead fate, but for saving him from the monster he would later become.]]
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** It's also possible to feel sympathy for a person without condoning their actions, and after [[spoiler: spending ten years as a ghost]] he probably wasn't that mentally stable anyway. [[spoiler: Yomiel's tribute to Sissel wouldn't just have been for saving him from an undead fate, but for saving him from the monster he would later become.]]]]
*So in [[spoiler: the final timeline, Sissel appears to have been hit by a shard of the Temsik meteorite, but did he survive that, or has he gone into an undead state the same way Yomiel did?]]
*So in [[spoiler: the final timeline, Sissel appears to have been hit by a shard of the Temsik meteorite, but did he survive that, or has he gone into an undead state the same way Yomiel did?]]
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** Because he wasn't able to retrieve his body: he had left it behind to help frame Lynne. But in the first timeline Lynne was assassinated immediately afterwards so he abandoned that plan.
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** To avoid waxing philosophical about [[GreyAndGrayMorality how impossible it is to assign merit based on apparent morality]], I'll just say that moral or immoral ''actions'' do not imply a moral or immoral ''character'', and [[spoiler:Yomiel]] is just as (un)deserving of sympathy as the rest of the cast is. By comparison, you could say the reverse for [[spoiler:Cabanela]], who was portrayed pretty unsympathetically for much of the game but was later revealed to have good intentions.
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** To avoid waxing philosophical about [[GreyAndGrayMorality how impossible it is to assign merit based on apparent morality]], I'll just say that moral or immoral ''actions'' do not imply a moral or immoral ''character'', and [[spoiler:Yomiel]] is just as (un)deserving of sympathy as the rest of the cast is. By comparison, you could say the reverse for [[spoiler:Cabanela]], who was portrayed pretty unsympathetically for much of the game but was later revealed to have good intentions.intentions.
** It's also possible to feel sympathy for a person without condoning their actions, and after [[spoiler: spending ten years as a ghost]] he probably wasn't that mentally stable anyway. [[spoiler: Yomiel's tribute to Sissel wouldn't just have been for saving him from an undead fate, but for saving him from the monster he would later become.]]
** It's also possible to feel sympathy for a person without condoning their actions, and after [[spoiler: spending ten years as a ghost]] he probably wasn't that mentally stable anyway. [[spoiler: Yomiel's tribute to Sissel wouldn't just have been for saving him from an undead fate, but for saving him from the monster he would later become.]]
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Black And White Morality? What\'s that?
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* Why is [[spoiler:Yomiel]] portrayed as sympathetic? Sure he is [[spoiler:given a tragic backstory and has had a pretty shitty life. Sure he expresses regret for taking Lynne hostage and yes he loves his cat, but lest we forget some of the sympathetic things he did: he murders a 5 year old girl's mother in front of her and makes her think she did it, he possesses a 10 year old girl and ''tries to make her kill her own father'', he actually succeeds in cold-bloodedly killing her in her own apartment as we see in the alternate timeline. And this is just what he does to Kamila! What's more, he shows no remorse until he's been stabbed in the back. But because he's not had a nice life, the entire last hour of the game is dedicated to making him a sympathetic character, and even the last image of the game is a TearJearker image of him drawing a picture of his precious cat. The actions I mentioned are MoralEventHorizon by most people's standards, no matter how crap your life has been. I'm getting DejaVu to a similar glossing-over-of-a-villain's-faults in the last case of Trials and Tribulations.]]
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* Why is [[spoiler:Yomiel]] portrayed as sympathetic? Sure [[spoiler:Sure he is [[spoiler:given given a tragic backstory and has had a pretty shitty life. Sure he expresses regret for taking Lynne hostage and yes he loves his cat, but lest we forget some of the sympathetic things he did: he murders a 5 year old girl's mother in front of her and makes her think she did it, he possesses a 10 year old girl and ''tries to make her kill her own father'', he actually succeeds in cold-bloodedly killing her in her own apartment as we see in the alternate timeline. And this is just what he does to Kamila! What's more, he shows no remorse until he's been stabbed in the back. But because he's not had a nice life, the entire last hour of the game is dedicated to making him a sympathetic character, and even the last image of the game is a TearJearker image of him drawing a picture of his precious cat. The actions I mentioned are MoralEventHorizon by most people's standards, no matter how crap your life has been. I'm getting DejaVu to a similar glossing-over-of-a-villain's-faults in the last case of Trials and Tribulations.]]]]
** To avoid waxing philosophical about [[GreyAndGrayMorality how impossible it is to assign merit based on apparent morality]], I'll just say that moral or immoral ''actions'' do not imply a moral or immoral ''character'', and [[spoiler:Yomiel]] is just as (un)deserving of sympathy as the rest of the cast is. By comparison, you could say the reverse for [[spoiler:Cabanela]], who was portrayed pretty unsympathetically for much of the game but was later revealed to have good intentions.
** To avoid waxing philosophical about [[GreyAndGrayMorality how impossible it is to assign merit based on apparent morality]], I'll just say that moral or immoral ''actions'' do not imply a moral or immoral ''character'', and [[spoiler:Yomiel]] is just as (un)deserving of sympathy as the rest of the cast is. By comparison, you could say the reverse for [[spoiler:Cabanela]], who was portrayed pretty unsympathetically for much of the game but was later revealed to have good intentions.
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This occurred to me on my third-ish time through the game, and bothers me by a truly disproportionate margin.
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* The [[BlatantLies most important plot hole in the game]]: How did [[spoiler:Yomiel's substitute mechanical form in the submarine]] get those CoolShades? After all, [[spoiler:his original body who-knows-how-far away]] still seems to be wearing them when you get there.
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* Why is [[spoiler:Yomiel portrayed as sympathetic? Sure he is given a tragic backstory and has had a pretty shitty life. Sure he expresses regret for taking Lynne hostage and yes he loves his cat, but lest we forget some of the sympathetic things he did: he murders a 5 year old girl's mother in front of her and makes her think she did it, he possesses a 10 year old girl and ''tries to make her kill her own father'', he actually succeeds in cold-bloodedly killing her in her own apartment as we see in the alternate timeline. And this is just what he does to Kamila! What's more, he shows no remorse until he's been stabbed in the back. But because he's not had a nice life, the entire last hour of the game is dedicated to making him a sympathetic character, and even the last image of the game is a TearJearker image of him drawing a picture of his precious cat. The actions I mentioned are MoralEventHorizon by most people's standards, no matter how crap your life has been. I'm getting DejaVu to a similar glossing-over-of-a-villain's-faults in the last case of Trials and Tribulations.]]
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* In the first timeline, Yomiel is with Tengo when Kamila and Missile are killed. Why isn't he present in the apartment during the second timeline?
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* Why is [[spoiler:Yomiel portrayed as sympathetic? Sure he is given a tragic backstory and has had a pretty shitty life. Sure he expresses regret for taking Lynne hostage and yes he loves his cat, but lest we forget some of the sympathetic things he did: he murders a 5 year old girl's mother in front of her and makes her think she did it, he possesses a 10 year old girl and ''tries to make her kill her own father'', he actually succeeds in cold-bloodedly killing her in her own apartment as we see in the alternate timeline. And this is just what he does to Kamila! What's more, he shows no remorse until he's been stabbed in the back. But because he's not had a nice life, the entire last hour of the game is dedicated to making him a sympathetic character, and even the last image of the game is a TearJearker image of him drawing a picture of his precious cat. The actions I mentioned are MoralEventHorizon by most people's standards, no matter how crap your life has been. I'm getting DejaVu to a similar glossing-over-of-a-villain's-faults in the last case of Trials and Tribulations.]]
* Why is [[spoiler:Yomiel portrayed as sympathetic? Sure he is given a tragic backstory and has had a pretty shitty life. Sure he expresses regret for taking Lynne hostage and yes he loves his cat, but lest we forget some of the sympathetic things he did: he murders a 5 year old girl's mother in front of her and makes her think she did it, he possesses a 10 year old girl and ''tries to make her kill her own father'', he actually succeeds in cold-bloodedly killing her in her own apartment as we see in the alternate timeline. And this is just what he does to Kamila! What's more, he shows no remorse until he's been stabbed in the back. But because he's not had a nice life, the entire last hour of the game is dedicated to making him a sympathetic character, and even the last image of the game is a TearJearker image of him drawing a picture of his precious cat. The actions I mentioned are MoralEventHorizon by most people's standards, no matter how crap your life has been. I'm getting DejaVu to a similar glossing-over-of-a-villain's-faults in the last case of Trials and Tribulations.]]
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**** Complete isolation. He would go even more insane. Or maybe he could think this was a punishment for all the horrible things he did, including [[spoiler:killing a girl and - accidentally - his own friend.]]
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** If this was early in his career, he might have been given a pass on it, especially if his performance since then was exemplary.
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*** Why would he give up? He's trapped in a submarine at the bottom of an ocean, with nothing to do but try to find a way out.
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*** Why would he give up? He's trapped in a submarine at the bottom of an ocean, with nothing to do but try to find a way out.
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**** Lynne does seem to have died while or after falling - when you go to her four-minutes before, the replay doesn't end right after she's shot as with most deaths, but instead when she's falling. Jowd, too, could have died on the operating table, especially considering some of the other guys in the room with him during the explosion lived.
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** Either he would give up immediately, or he would check every 5 seconds or so if something is near enough to be possessed, and he would eventually give up anyway.
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* Commander Sith's plan to trap Yomiel's soul doesn't make much sense. He explicitly has the power to possess "small creatures". The moment a fish or crab got near the wrecked sub, he'd have a vehicle he could use to escape.
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* Commander Sith's plan to trap Yomiel's soul doesn't make much sense. He explicitly has the power to possess "small creatures". The moment a fish or crab got near the wrecked sub, he'd have a vehicle he could use to escape.escape.
** Either he would give up immediately, or he would check every 5 seconds or so if something is near enough to be possessed, and he would eventually give up anyway.
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*** [[AceAttorney Turnabout Meteorite]]! Apollo Justice manages to get [[spoiler:Yomiel]] only ten years instead of lifetime!
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*** [[AceAttorney Turnabout Meteorite]]! Apollo Justice manages to get [[spoiler:Yomiel]] only ten years instead of lifetime!lifetime!
* Commander Sith's plan to trap Yomiel's soul doesn't make much sense. He explicitly has the power to possess "small creatures". The moment a fish or crab got near the wrecked sub, he'd have a vehicle he could use to escape.
* Commander Sith's plan to trap Yomiel's soul doesn't make much sense. He explicitly has the power to possess "small creatures". The moment a fish or crab got near the wrecked sub, he'd have a vehicle he could use to escape.
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** Escaping interrogation would have shat all over his case for [[spoiler:not being a spy]], so it's possible that he was never able to clear his name [[spoiler:in the new timeline, even though he had been cleared in the game's timeline]]. Even if he ''was'' found not-guilty of that, he still would have been charged with theft ([[spoiler:of a ''weapon'']]), hostage-taking ([[spoiler:of a ''child'']]), threatening a police officer, resisting arrest... [[spoiler:saving Lynne]] doesn't change that. All of it could easily add up to 10 years, especially given that he would have been tried in an ''AceAttorney'' KangarooCourt.
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** Escaping interrogation would have shat all over his case for [[spoiler:not being a spy]], so it's possible that he was never able to clear his name [[spoiler:in the new timeline, even though he had been cleared in the game's timeline]]. Even if he ''was'' found not-guilty of that, he still would have been charged with theft ([[spoiler:of a ''weapon'']]), hostage-taking ([[spoiler:of a ''child'']]), threatening a police officer, resisting arrest... [[spoiler:saving Lynne]] doesn't change that. All of it could easily add up to 10 years, especially given that he would have been tried in an ''AceAttorney'' KangarooCourt.KangarooCourt.
**[[AceAttorney Turnabout Meteorite]]! Apollo Justice manages to get Yomiel only ten years instead of lifetime!
**[[AceAttorney Turnabout Meteorite]]! Apollo Justice manages to get Yomiel only ten years instead of lifetime!
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****They probably lived happily ever after in the blue people country. Since in the final timeline Yomiel didn't make his contract with Sith, Jengo and Teego won't go to the dump and try to kill Lynne and end up flattened.
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*** There's a couple physics things that may help to explain.
**** A bullet is small and when it hits the impact has a higher pressure since pressure is inversely proportional to surface area. This is why it is easier to pop a balloon with a needle than say your finger.
**** Also it is possible that when objects are switched velocity is not conserved, but the kinetic energy is instead. An object with more mass moving a slower speed and an object with less mass moving at faster speed might have the same energy. So switching a sweet potato with double the mass of a bullet with a bullet moving at typical bullet speed might result in the sweet potato moving at half bullet speed (which has equivalent kinetic energy).
**** The equation for Kinetic energy is KE = (0.5)mv^2. Now say, KE of the bullet prior to switch equals KE of the potato after the switch. Let's say the bullet is moving 1 bullet speed (or BS) and has a mass of 1 bullet (or bu). The potato has a mass of 2 bu. So: (0.5)*1 bu*(1 BS)^2 = (0.5)*2 bu*v^2 -> 1 bu * 1 BS^2 = 2 bu*v^2 -> (1/2)BS^2 = v^2 -> SQRT(1/2) BS = v -> So basically, considering the bullet is half the mass of the potato and that Kinetic Energy is conserved, then the potato will slow down to about 70% of the speed of the bullet. Granted, the potato is probably more than twice the mass of the bullet resulting in even more slow down. After that count in air resistance and other physic crap and you might be able to survive an impact from a roasted potato flying at an equivalent of a bullet's kinetic energy, granted you probably will not be a happy camper none-the-less. I'd like to think the Kinetic Energy thing applies because it follows the Energy Cannot be created model of the Universe and gives the most plausibility to something as odd as this.
**** A bullet is small and when it hits the impact has a higher pressure since pressure is inversely proportional to surface area. This is why it is easier to pop a balloon with a needle than say your finger.
**** Also it is possible that when objects are switched velocity is not conserved, but the kinetic energy is instead. An object with more mass moving a slower speed and an object with less mass moving at faster speed might have the same energy. So switching a sweet potato with double the mass of a bullet with a bullet moving at typical bullet speed might result in the sweet potato moving at half bullet speed (which has equivalent kinetic energy).
**** The equation for Kinetic energy is KE = (0.5)mv^2. Now say, KE of the bullet prior to switch equals KE of the potato after the switch. Let's say the bullet is moving 1 bullet speed (or BS) and has a mass of 1 bullet (or bu). The potato has a mass of 2 bu. So: (0.5)*1 bu*(1 BS)^2 = (0.5)*2 bu*v^2 -> 1 bu * 1 BS^2 = 2 bu*v^2 -> (1/2)BS^2 = v^2 -> SQRT(1/2) BS = v -> So basically, considering the bullet is half the mass of the potato and that Kinetic Energy is conserved, then the potato will slow down to about 70% of the speed of the bullet. Granted, the potato is probably more than twice the mass of the bullet resulting in even more slow down. After that count in air resistance and other physic crap and you might be able to survive an impact from a roasted potato flying at an equivalent of a bullet's kinetic energy, granted you probably will not be a happy camper none-the-less. I'd like to think the Kinetic Energy thing applies because it follows the Energy Cannot be created model of the Universe and gives the most plausibility to something as odd as this.
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**** Actually, you go back to wear the corpse lies. Jowd's body was moved from the location of death to the table in the next room. You appear in the past at the table. Same thing goes for every other death, expect the two involved with a trick within a trick. I'm inclined to believe that the change in location has something to do with the double trick. Though the cop could be explained that his body was touching the van so it acted as a frame of reference, if he landed in the restaurant it may have started there. This doesn't explain the other one though. Maybe because of the nature of the body constantly be returned to the point just before death and the body was technically in the part at the time of death, maybe the park was still somehow a frame of reference. It could also be that these two deaths had crossed particularly long distances since the 4 minutes before death moment. Maybe its a feature of the powers of the dead that you are close enough to the living body to see the person involved. For example, another common point is you generally find that the dead person has more or less been in the area they die in for the entire duration of the 4 minutes, with the only real oddballs being the cop and Yomiel. In fact, now that I mention it... there are actually a lot of unique things about those two case that stand out. The were both encountered within a trick, their corpses were both really far away from the location they were at four minutes prior to death, and their deaths were the direct causes of deaths that you were trying to prevent in the context of the first trick in the double tricks. Maybe all these oddities add up somehow...
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**** Actually, you go back to wear where the corpse lies. Jowd's body was moved from the location of death to the table in the next room. You appear in the past at the table. Same thing goes for every other death, expect except the two involved with a trick within a trick. I'm inclined to believe that the change in location has something to do with the double trick. Though the cop could be explained that his body was touching the van so it acted as a frame of reference, if he landed in the restaurant it may have started there. This doesn't explain the other one though. Maybe because of the nature of the body [[spoiler: constantly be returned to the point just before death and the body was technically in the part park at the time of death, maybe the park was still somehow a frame of reference. reference.]] It could also be that these two deaths had crossed particularly long distances since the 4 minutes before death moment. Maybe Maybe, its a feature of the powers of the dead that you are close enough to the living body to see the person involved. For example, another common point is you generally find that the dead person has more or less been in the area they die in for the entire duration of the 4 minutes, with the only real oddballs being the cop and Yomiel.[[spoiler: Yomiel]]. In fact, now that I mention it... there are actually a lot of unique things about those two case cases that stand out. The out: They were both encountered within a trick, their corpses were both really far away from the location they were at four minutes prior to death, and their deaths were the direct causes of deaths that you were trying to prevent in the context of the first trick in the double tricks. Maybe all these oddities add up somehow...
