History Headscratchers / GeneratorRex

14th May '16 3:08:05 PM TitoMosquito
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** I think he is just a BaddassNormal with cybernetic arms, pure cyber arms don't seem like a EVO power. Rex has to grow his and no other EVO has mechanica noises every time they move.


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** I think he is just a BaddassNormal BadassNormal with cybernetic arms, pure cyber arms don't seem like a EVO power. Rex has to grow his and no other EVO has mechanica noises every time they move.

15th Jan '16 9:43:45 AM Anddrix
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**** The WesternAnimation/{{Ben10}} nanochips are actually about the size of your fingernail. They ought to be called [=MICROchips=], but that would be [[ViewersAreMorons confusing]].

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**** The WesternAnimation/{{Ben10}} nanochips are actually about the size of your fingernail. They ought to be called [=MICROchips=], but that would be [[ViewersAreMorons confusing]].confusing.
3rd Jan '16 12:36:59 PM cillianflood
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** This troper agrees. It was a pretty major missed opportunity. My guess is that they wanted to but couldn't think of anything fitting for strong and weak forces.
21st Nov '15 5:43:46 PM Doug86
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* An essential part of the show's premise is that Rex can "cure" [=EVO's=]. Circe is an EVO that feels like an outcast because of her powers, and doesn't want them. The fact that "curing" her does not immediately occur to Rex, well...it just bugs me.

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* An essential part of the show's premise is that Rex can "cure" [=EVO's=].[=EVOs=]. Circe is an EVO that feels like an outcast because of her powers, and doesn't want them. The fact that "curing" her does not immediately occur to Rex, well...it just bugs me.



** Evos are, by and large, dangerous, and FantasticRacism plays a part, too. People do tend to ostracize those who are different.

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** Evos [=EVOs=] are, by and large, dangerous, and FantasticRacism plays a part, too. People do tend to ostracize those who are different.



* If White Knight is the only Nanite free organism in the world, how does he eat? Wouldn't all the plants and animals have evos in them?

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* If White Knight is the only Nanite free organism in the world, how does he eat? Wouldn't all the plants and animals have evos [=EVOs=] in them?



** Think about it this way, Bobo is already a stable evo, and one of the only ones to ever actually agree to join Providence besides Rex. Stable Evos CAN'T go monsterous, as they already mutated. Thus, despite everything with Bobo, he still has one thing that makes him useful, he CAN'T go monster. Despite his untrustworthyness, he's still got the fact he can be trusted not to mutate and turn on them. White Knight became their leader BECAUSE he's Nanite free, Providence clearly values members who can be trusted not to mutate highly.

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** Think about it this way, Bobo is already a stable evo, and one of the only ones to ever actually agree to join Providence besides Rex. Stable Evos [=EVOs=] CAN'T go monsterous, as they already mutated. Thus, despite everything with Bobo, he still has one thing that makes him useful, he CAN'T go monster. Despite his untrustworthyness, he's still got the fact he can be trusted not to mutate and turn on them. White Knight became their leader BECAUSE he's Nanite free, Providence clearly values members who can be trusted not to mutate highly.



** The Hunter Cain mook weapons probably ''aren't'' supereffective on most EVOs, only that one batch of manufactured EVOs that Hunter Cain provided. Against regular EVOs they're almost certainly no more effective than regular stuff.

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** The Hunter Cain mook weapons probably ''aren't'' supereffective on most EVOs, [=EVOs=], only that one batch of manufactured EVOs [=EVOs=] that Hunter Cain provided. Against regular EVOs [=EVOs=] they're almost certainly no more effective than regular stuff.



***** Payback shows us that, yes, it actually is possible for Providence soldiers to become ''even more ineffective at anything they do.'' The soldiers that went EVO were STILL much weaker than normal EVOs present. It's gotten to the point where you wonder why they even have guns at all...Then there was the fact that Six managed to literally punch out multiple EVOs by himself where multiple squads of Providence soldiers with machineguns couldn't even stop a single one. So. Amazingly. Frustrating.
****** Be fair now. The grunts were turning the tide when the ThemeMusicPowerup kicked in. As for weaker Evos, of the three Van Kleiss turned, we only see one actually try to fight, and he was up against Rex. The other guy was beaten, but we don't know how they managed that.

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***** Payback shows us that, yes, it actually is possible for Providence soldiers to become ''even more ineffective at anything they do.'' The soldiers that went EVO were STILL much weaker than normal EVOs [=EVOs=] present. It's gotten to the point where you wonder why they even have guns at all...Then there was the fact that Six managed to literally punch out multiple EVOs [=EVOs=] by himself where multiple squads of Providence soldiers with machineguns couldn't even stop a single one. So. Amazingly. Frustrating.
****** Be fair now. The grunts were turning the tide when the ThemeMusicPowerup kicked in. As for weaker Evos, [=EVOs=], of the three Van Kleiss turned, we only see one actually try to fight, and he was up against Rex. The other guy was beaten, but we don't know how they managed that.



** Who says EVOs want to join Providence? They're probably afraid they would get dissected if they joined. Providence is NOT an organization dedicated to promoting FantasticRacism but they've probably got a pretty bad rep among EVOs. Every EVO who's had a chance to join Rex has rejected his offer. So maybe it's less 'Providence does not want EVOs' and more 'EVOs do not want to join Providence.'

* Why aren't there any EVO rights groups popping up? I mean, if rational EVOs like the ones in Rabble exist, and White maintains that 'those bleeding hearts will get us killed', why isn't Rex getting any heat for being a traitor to EVO kind?

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** Who says EVOs [=EVOs=] want to join Providence? They're probably afraid they would get dissected if they joined. Providence is NOT an organization dedicated to promoting FantasticRacism but they've probably got a pretty bad rep among EVOs.[=EVOs=]. Every EVO who's had a chance to join Rex has rejected his offer. So maybe it's less 'Providence does not want EVOs' [=EVOs=]' and more 'EVOs '[=EVOs=] do not want to join Providence.'

* Why aren't there any EVO rights groups popping up? I mean, if rational EVOs [=EVOs=] like the ones in Rabble exist, and White maintains that 'those bleeding hearts will get us killed', why isn't Rex getting any heat for being a traitor to EVO kind?



* THERE IS NOW! Bobo comments on the Green Fist, "What is this, People for the Ethical Treatment of EVOs?!"

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* THERE IS NOW! Bobo comments on the Green Fist, "What is this, People for the Ethical Treatment of EVOs?!"[=EVOs=]?!"



** There is one, before Rex he and White Knight were the elite soldiers of Providence (check the big Rex flashback episode) and it's implied before the Plague they were special ops. Now give it a few years of fighting evos.

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** There is one, before Rex he and White Knight were the elite soldiers of Providence (check the big Rex flashback episode) and it's implied before the Plague they were special ops. Now give it a few years of fighting evos.[=EVOs=].



*** Also, why should they care that he was with Providence? They weren't doing anything illegal, and the entire reason they were there was to demonstrate that the evos in question were capable of living in coexistence with flatscans nondestructively, so they knew he'd have no reason to hunt any of the performers. Its no different from a police or EMT presence at a concert that uses a lot of dangerous pyrotechnics- there just in case things go pear-shaped, but not perceived as a threat by any of the patrons.

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*** Also, why should they care that he was with Providence? They weren't doing anything illegal, and the entire reason they were there was to demonstrate that the evos [=EVOs=] in question were capable of living in coexistence with flatscans nondestructively, so they knew he'd have no reason to hunt any of the performers. Its no different from a police or EMT presence at a concert that uses a lot of dangerous pyrotechnics- there just in case things go pear-shaped, but not perceived as a threat by any of the patrons.



** He has ''exactly the same face''. Even with EVOs, you can't really fake something like that ''that'' well. Especially with EVOs, actually, given how monstrous they tend to be.

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** He has ''exactly the same face''. Even with EVOs, [=EVOs=], you can't really fake something like that ''that'' well. Especially with EVOs, [=EVOs=], actually, given how monstrous they tend to be.



** Green Fist chick claiming Providence is disturbing with the "natural order" of things by catching and caging Evos. She does know that the Evos are the result of mutation from nanobots aka tiny machines made by people! How is cleaning up after a man-made accident messing with the "natural order"?

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** Green Fist chick claiming Providence is disturbing with the "natural order" of things by catching and caging Evos. [=EVOs=]. She does know that the Evos [=EVOs=] are the result of mutation from nanobots aka tiny machines made by people! How is cleaning up after a man-made accident messing with the "natural order"?



*** I think what the Green Fist does is police the region without capturing the EVOs, basically treating them like every other wild animal in the Jungle. Providence taking the EVO animals away probably messes with the ecology of the jungle or something, making them more likely to attack the village.
**** Plus, did you see the small cages the EVOs were in? Not all Providence Facilities have big garden-like Petting Zoos for the EVOs to roam relatively free.

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*** I think what the Green Fist does is police the region without capturing the EVOs, [=EVOs=], basically treating them like every other wild animal in the Jungle. Providence taking the EVO animals away probably messes with the ecology of the jungle or something, making them more likely to attack the village.
**** Plus, did you see the small cages the EVOs [=EVOs=] were in? Not all Providence Facilities have big garden-like Petting Zoos for the EVOs [=EVOs=] to roam relatively free.



*** Unlike the Evos, the Chupacabras was really a natural part of the environment. They could have at least transported it further away though.

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*** Unlike the Evos, [=EVOs=], the Chupacabras was really a natural part of the environment. They could have at least transported it further away though.



*** Except they established at the beginning that the EVOs they had weren't dangerous, they just needed to be contained for PR reasons.
*** Not ''all'' the Evos were dangerous. It only takes one to ruin your day. And not sure what PR reasons they were since the locals didn't seem to like them anyway.

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*** Except they established at the beginning that the EVOs [=EVOs=] they had weren't dangerous, they just needed to be contained for PR reasons.
*** Not ''all'' the Evos [=EVOs=] were dangerous. It only takes one to ruin your day. And not sure what PR reasons they were since the locals didn't seem to like them anyway.



**** Really? I must have missed when they mentioned that because no one did. That part of Providence was being run by local people as far as we saw (the soldiers attacked at the beginning had South American accents of some kind and the agent Rex worked with was from there). But I get that there are reasons for the locals to dislike Providence, the organization can be pretty shady sometimes but Green Fist seemed far worse to me. They carelessly let that incredibly dangerous chupacabra out into the jungle to roam free without even checking to make sure it was safe to let go. These guys obviously don't care what types of Evos they let out. To be frank, it's hard enough to live in these places as is. The reason most rainforest in real life gets destroyed is because the local people need farmland to live, most don't care about a picture bigger than keeping their family safe and fed. And given what little sense Green Fist's arguments make (Evos are ''not'' part of the natural order, unless GF is some kind of cult that believes the accident was an act of God somehow, which would make them even more unsavory to me), I see very few plausible reasons why the locals would help/like them.

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**** Really? I must have missed when they mentioned that because no one did. That part of Providence was being run by local people as far as we saw (the soldiers attacked at the beginning had South American accents of some kind and the agent Rex worked with was from there). But I get that there are reasons for the locals to dislike Providence, the organization can be pretty shady sometimes but Green Fist seemed far worse to me. They carelessly let that incredibly dangerous chupacabra out into the jungle to roam free without even checking to make sure it was safe to let go. These guys obviously don't care what types of Evos [=EVOs=] they let out. To be frank, it's hard enough to live in these places as is. The reason most rainforest in real life gets destroyed is because the local people need farmland to live, most don't care about a picture bigger than keeping their family safe and fed. And given what little sense Green Fist's arguments make (Evos ([=EVOs=] are ''not'' part of the natural order, unless GF is some kind of cult that believes the accident was an act of God somehow, which would make them even more unsavory to me), I see very few plausible reasons why the locals would help/like them.



* Three-parter for Moonlighting. First, what exactly did R&L do with the EVOs? All it ever showed them do was wrestle with them (And lose most of the time). Their car/van was a paddy wagon but it didn't seem like they had the means to do...anything. Did they just release the EVO somewhere else? They did consider the Frog EVO leaving the area to be a victory...Also, after R&L 'beat' the frog EVO, both of them felt the need to sit on it's back. You know, where it 'was just shooting acid out of.'. Why didn't the EVO just melt 'em? Finally...'Why did we never find out what was in R&L's 'bag of tricks'?'

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* Three-parter for Moonlighting. First, what exactly did R&L do with the EVOs? [=EVOs=]? All it ever showed them do was wrestle with them (And lose most of the time). Their car/van was a paddy wagon but it didn't seem like they had the means to do...anything. Did they just release the EVO somewhere else? They did consider the Frog EVO leaving the area to be a victory...Also, after R&L 'beat' the frog EVO, both of them felt the need to sit on it's back. You know, where it 'was just shooting acid out of.'. Why didn't the EVO just melt 'em? Finally...'Why did we never find out what was in R&L's 'bag of tricks'?'



* Where exactly did Hunter Cain find a small army of men who were potentially willing to gun down children? (Surely Cain and his men knew something about 'La Familia', since he was able to guess that Frederico was one of the EVOs, and were willing to kill him even though they hadn't seen him turn into an EVO yet) Not to mention how suicidal they must have been. Since when has normal ammo worked on EVOs? EVER? It's not like that should be a secret, either, especially with all the news footage we've seen of Providence soldiers' guns having little to no effect on even the smallest of EVOs.
** You'd be surprised how easy it is to gather a small group of fanatics that want a certain group dead. It'd be even easier for Evos.

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* Where exactly did Hunter Cain find a small army of men who were potentially willing to gun down children? (Surely Cain and his men knew something about 'La Familia', since he was able to guess that Frederico was one of the EVOs, [=EVOs=], and were willing to kill him even though they hadn't seen him turn into an EVO yet) Not to mention how suicidal they must have been. Since when has normal ammo worked on EVOs? [=EVOs=]? EVER? It's not like that should be a secret, either, especially with all the news footage we've seen of Providence soldiers' guns having little to no effect on even the smallest of EVOs.
[=EVOs=].
** You'd be surprised how easy it is to gather a small group of fanatics that want a certain group dead. It'd be even easier for Evos.
[=EVOs=].



** Providence has all the top-shelf killer Evos under lock and key. Bit of a risk to pick one up, but Holiday went to him direct and he couldn't exactly refuse.

* Why did Knight call back the Keep from the hunt for Moses, wouldn't the whole weaponized Evos auction be something he'd want to stop?

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** Providence has all the top-shelf killer Evos [=EVOs=] under lock and key. Bit of a risk to pick one up, but Holiday went to him direct and he couldn't exactly refuse.

* Why did Knight call back the Keep from the hunt for Moses, wouldn't the whole weaponized Evos [=EVOs=] auction be something he'd want to stop?



** What the troper above me said. He needs to beat up most EVOs because they normally don't stay still and let him try to cure them.

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** What the troper above me said. He needs to beat up most EVOs [=EVOs=] because they normally don't stay still and let him try to cure them.



* Why is it that everyone is against Black Knight? This isn't me trolling or playing devil's advocate, I've seen her methods and they are no more questionable than White's, maybe even less. I know, I know, she was brainwashing left and right, but the evos are all non-sentient, so what's the problem? Rex was being paranoid and sneaking when there was no cause for alarm, and Robo-Bobo is an ass whose mind control only went as far as calming his temper and teaching him manners. She treats the Providence agents with more respect than White ''ever'' did, and hasn't even done anything damning like ordering a nuke on Manhatten.

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* Why is it that everyone is against Black Knight? This isn't me trolling or playing devil's advocate, I've seen her methods and they are no more questionable than White's, maybe even less. I know, I know, she was brainwashing left and right, but the evos [=EVOs=] are all non-sentient, so what's the problem? Rex was being paranoid and sneaking when there was no cause for alarm, and Robo-Bobo is an ass whose mind control only went as far as calming his temper and teaching him manners. She treats the Providence agents with more respect than White ''ever'' did, and hasn't even done anything damning like ordering a nuke on Manhatten.



*** He didn't want the SENTIENT EVOs brainwashed. He only freaked out when he saw that they were controlling Bobo. [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill Some people think that mind controlling sentient creatures is wrong.]] You might say Bobo is an ass, but being an ass doesn't mean you deserve to get your free will taken away.
** Rex wasn't being paranoid and he had a good reason. Until the worm, he had no idea how they got control of the Evos. These guys came in and started blasting it with a brainwashing ray, which got his attention. Then they herded them into tiny cells to be collared like animals. ''Then'' they used it on Bobo. By this point it's clear: they aren't trying to help the Evos, they're ''exploiting them''.

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*** He didn't want the SENTIENT EVOs [=EVOs=] brainwashed. He only freaked out when he saw that they were controlling Bobo. [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill Some people think that mind controlling sentient creatures is wrong.]] You might say Bobo is an ass, but being an ass doesn't mean you deserve to get your free will taken away.
** Rex wasn't being paranoid and he had a good reason. Until the worm, he had no idea how they got control of the Evos.[=EVOs=]. These guys came in and started blasting it with a brainwashing ray, which got his attention. Then they herded them into tiny cells to be collared like animals. ''Then'' they used it on Bobo. By this point it's clear: they aren't trying to help the Evos, [=EVOs=], they're ''exploiting them''.



** Also, Van Kleiss doesn't create EVOs; he activated them. It's like how Rex couldn't cure the chupacabre because it wasn't an EVO to begin with; there's nothing to cure.

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** Also, Van Kleiss doesn't create EVOs; [=EVOs=]; he activated them. It's like how Rex couldn't cure the chupacabre because it wasn't an EVO to begin with; there's nothing to cure.



** It's possible she just wants Van Kleiss for her Dollhouse. On another note, I want to know why she took Skalamander, since his mutation looks kind of painful and he might want to be cured. In any case, all of Abysus is going to get turned on its ass, since it was populated by EVOs and Biowulf was a good ruler of a nation of ''Evos'', rather than a nation of ''cured evos''. So who knows what the pack will do with their lives anymore. The only thing you might hazard a guess at is that they sure as hell won't let Van Kleiss call the shots anymore.
** Regarding Biowulf and Skalamander - I think it's possible they may have been sapient animal EVOs like Bobo, which means them getting cured would mean reverting back into a wolf and a lizard, which would kind of suck.

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** It's possible she just wants Van Kleiss for her Dollhouse. On another note, I want to know why she took Skalamander, since his mutation looks kind of painful and he might want to be cured. In any case, all of Abysus is going to get turned on its ass, since it was populated by EVOs [=EVOs=] and Biowulf was a good ruler of a nation of ''Evos'', ''[=EVOs=]'', rather than a nation of ''cured evos''.[=EVOs=]''. So who knows what the pack will do with their lives anymore. The only thing you might hazard a guess at is that they sure as hell won't let Van Kleiss call the shots anymore.
** Regarding Biowulf and Skalamander - I think it's possible they may have been sapient animal EVOs [=EVOs=] like Bobo, which means them getting cured would mean reverting back into a wolf and a lizard, which would kind of suck.



* I know he's a villain and thus irrational by default, but Hunter Cain's motivation really stretches it for me. He hates EVOs with a passion because his wife turned into one, so now he wants to destroy them all, including Rex, who is well known for being able to *cure* EVOs. What even.... what?

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* I know he's a villain and thus irrational by default, but Hunter Cain's motivation really stretches it for me. He hates EVOs [=EVOs=] with a passion because his wife turned into one, so now he wants to destroy them all, including Rex, who is well known for being able to *cure* EVOs.[=EVOs=]. What even.... what?
18th Aug '15 8:06:07 PM freefall4242
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*** Doubtful. Bear in mind, Holiday is a scientist, and a good one at that. She knew Moses didn't provide the proper data for his cure, and yet chose to ignore it in hopes her sister could be cured. No matter how clunky or expensive, she would've jumped for it if it existed.
28th Mar '15 6:40:51 PM nombretomado
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**** I for one, hope that the bunny battle turns into a OnceASeason thing for the show ala [[FamilyGuy Peter Griffin's battle with Ernie the Giant Chicken]]. They NeverFoundTheBody and that rabbit's dynamite. Come to think of it, thanks to Rex's Amnesia, they could even justify it by retroactively revealing that bunny's been dogging him for years.

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**** I for one, hope that the bunny battle turns into a OnceASeason thing for the show ala [[FamilyGuy [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Peter Griffin's battle with Ernie the Giant Chicken]]. They NeverFoundTheBody and that rabbit's dynamite. Come to think of it, thanks to Rex's Amnesia, they could even justify it by retroactively revealing that bunny's been dogging him for years.
14th Feb '15 5:22:04 PM Evening
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*** When Rex confronts Noah on his affiliation with Providence, Noah mentions he needed money. I think a safe hypothesis is that he needs to make ends meet on his own because his parents are either dead, missing, or terribly sick. While finances are probably identical to this world, there could be less support from the government in that world and is why Noah simply isn't in an orphanage. [[SocialServicesDoesNotExist Social services might not exist.]]
9th Dec '14 2:09:35 PM FuzzyWulfe
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** Also, Van Kleiss doesn't create EVOs; he activated them. It's like how Rex couldn't cure the chupacabre because it wasn't an EVO to begin with; there's nothing to cure.
8th Dec '14 7:54:57 PM FuzzyWulfe
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*** It works on the assumption that large scale events that happen are a kind of way for the world as an organism to correct imbalances or evolve. Too many people? War or disease breaks out. If we developed gene augmentation technology or cybernetics that became widespread and accepted as beneath notice, that would also be seen as a kind of evolution of the human species. Like how primates learning to use tools would make them more fit.
31st Aug '14 11:59:56 PM HeWhoMustNotBeUsernamed
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\n**Not as bad as it seems...at first Van Kleiss just wanted another toady/ a possible source of nannies if he ever got hungry (also, wouldn't he get Rex's powers if he absorbed the first generation nanites?) Later on, he finally gets Rex's nanites when he acquires his new skill set- he doesn't need Rex any longer. Then he finds out that Rex has the Omega... suddenly he needs that again, so Rex needs to be alive (but not intact, as he's willing to let NoFace pummel him).
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