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13th Oct '17 4:40:38 PM Freezer
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** I would argue there's one hell of a difference between not knowing "Jason Vorhees: Unkillable Murder Zombie" and "Jason Vorhees: Insane Serial Killer." The latter is like a bunch of Seattle prostitutes having no idea who [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Ridgway Gary Ridgeway]] was, if Ridgeway had escaped jail and gone on another killing spree. Twice.
13th Oct '17 7:11:17 AM Brynhild.Svanhvit
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** You're overstating the movies. Friday the 13th 2-4 take place over what appears to be a single summer with 2 and 3 being directly back to back. Friday the 13th 5 doesn't actually feature Jason, the villain that time is the father of a mentally disabled teen who is killed in the first act. 6 features his revival as a zombie (or whatever he is) and takes place years after the first four movies with an adult Tommy. Much of that movie hinges on the locals do know about Jason. He's a dead serial killer who up until then had shown no magical powers at all. Seven has little excuse, eight is takes Manhattan and features kids on a cruise. They weren't even at Crystal Lake for most of the time and that is where he's supposed to be. Nine (Jason goes to Hell) they know exactly what Jason is and send the FBI and if not for a serious case of PowersAsThePlotDemands that would have worked just fine on Jason. Ten (Jason X) takes place centuries into the future and clearly real monsters are sufficiently rare that they didn't really believe he could come back from the dead. Freddy vs Jason involves Jason being where he doesn't belong, in a city that has it's own monster who can only attack in your sleep. It's immediately clear that the police (and probably most of the adults) have concluded that Freddy is back again and dismissed any facts that disagreed with that. In fact they would have been wise to blame the murders on Jason. He's something you can shoot and it would have prevented Freddy from returning. So in closing out of eleven films only 9 feature Jason. Of those 9 four of them take place away from Crystal Lake. 2,3 and 4 are all one long spree that ends with his death. 6 is his revival after more than a decade leaving just part seven as a legit what the hell.

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** You're overstating the movies. Friday the 13th 2-4 take place over what appears to be a single summer with 2 and 3 being directly back to back. Friday the 13th 5 doesn't actually feature Jason, the villain that time is the father of a mentally disabled teen who is killed in the first act. 6 features his revival as a zombie (or whatever he is) and takes place years after the first four movies with an adult Tommy. Much of that movie hinges on the locals do know about Jason. He's a dead serial killer who up until then had shown no magical powers at all. Seven has little excuse, eight is takes Manhattan and features kids on a cruise. They weren't even at Crystal Lake for most of the time and that is where he's supposed to be. Nine (Jason goes to Hell) they know exactly what Jason is and send the FBI and if not for a serious case of PowersAsThePlotDemands that would have worked just fine on Jason. Ten (Jason X) takes place centuries into the future and clearly real monsters are sufficiently rare that they didn't really believe he could come back from the dead. Freddy vs Jason involves Jason being where he doesn't belong, in a city that has it's own monster who can only attack in your sleep. It's immediately clear that the police (and probably most of the adults) have concluded that Freddy is back again and dismissed any facts that disagreed with that. In fact they would have been wise to blame the murders on Jason. He's something you can shoot and it would have prevented Freddy from returning. So in closing out of eleven films only 9 feature Jason. Of those 9 four of them take place away from Crystal Lake. 2,3 and 4 are all one long spree that ends with his death. 6 is his revival after more than a decade leaving just part seven as a legit what the hell.hell.
* First movie. Is there any explanation of why Jason's body was never recovered from the lake in order to be given a proper autopsy and funeral? Also, if he was NotQuiteDead to begin with, why didn't he just came back to his mother?
19th Jul '17 11:45:27 AM ThatSpyChick
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** Adrenaline? Or maybe his rage at being injuries supplemented his strength?

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** Adrenaline? Or maybe his rage at being injuries injured supplemented his strength?
19th Jul '17 11:44:13 AM ThatSpyChick
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** Freddy and Jason are not in the same universe. Jason vs Freddy, like ''Franchise/AlienVsPredator'' takes place in its own continuity. However Freddy has shown in the past to be quite the rules lawyer when he needs to be. The most likely answer is that he either hitched a ride in someone who was descended from the Elm Street kids. Or even though the ships we see in Jason X are named after monsters that could just be that batch and somewhere there's a batch that were named after trees. A nightmare on Elm ship is the exact sort of thing Freddy would find hilarious.

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** Freddy and Jason are not in the same universe. Jason Freddy vs Freddy, Jason, like ''Franchise/AlienVsPredator'' takes place in its own continuity. However Freddy has shown in the past to be quite the rules lawyer when he needs to be. The most likely answer is that he either hitched a ride in someone who was descended from the Elm Street kids. Or even though the ships we see in Jason X are named after monsters that could just be that batch and somewhere there's a batch that were named after trees. A nightmare on Elm ship is the exact sort of thing Freddy would find hilarious.



** You're overstating the movies. Friday the 13th 2-4 take place over what appears to be a single summer with 2 and 3 being directly back to back. Friday the 13th 5 doesn't actually feature Jason, the villain that time is the father of a mentally disabled teen who is killed in the first act. 6 features his revival as a zombie (or whatever he is) and takes place years after the first four movies with an adult Tommy. Much of that movie hinges on the locals do know about Jason. He's a dead serial killer who up until then had shown no magical powers at all. Seven has little excuse, eight is takes Manhattan and features kids on a cruise. They weren't even at Crystal Lake for most of the time and that is where he's supposed to be. Nine (Jason goes to Hell) they know exactly what Jason is and send the FBI and if not for a serious case of PowersAsThePlotDemands that would have worked just fine on Jason. Ten (Jason X) takes place centuries into the future and clearly real monsters are sufficiently rare that they didn't really believe he could come back from the dead. Jason vs Freddy involves Jason being where he doesn't belong, in a city that has it's own monster who can only attack in your sleep. It's immediately clear that the police (and probably most of the adults) have concluded that Freddy is back again and dismissed any facts that disagreed with that. In fact they would have been wise to blame the murders on Jason. He's something you can shoot and it would have prevented Freddy from returning. So in closing out of eleven films only 9 feature Jason. Of those 9 four of them take place away from Crystal Lake. 2,3 and 4 are all one long spree that ends with his death. 6 is his revival after more than a decade leaving just part seven as a legit what the hell.

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** You're overstating the movies. Friday the 13th 2-4 take place over what appears to be a single summer with 2 and 3 being directly back to back. Friday the 13th 5 doesn't actually feature Jason, the villain that time is the father of a mentally disabled teen who is killed in the first act. 6 features his revival as a zombie (or whatever he is) and takes place years after the first four movies with an adult Tommy. Much of that movie hinges on the locals do know about Jason. He's a dead serial killer who up until then had shown no magical powers at all. Seven has little excuse, eight is takes Manhattan and features kids on a cruise. They weren't even at Crystal Lake for most of the time and that is where he's supposed to be. Nine (Jason goes to Hell) they know exactly what Jason is and send the FBI and if not for a serious case of PowersAsThePlotDemands that would have worked just fine on Jason. Ten (Jason X) takes place centuries into the future and clearly real monsters are sufficiently rare that they didn't really believe he could come back from the dead. Jason vs Freddy vs Jason involves Jason being where he doesn't belong, in a city that has it's own monster who can only attack in your sleep. It's immediately clear that the police (and probably most of the adults) have concluded that Freddy is back again and dismissed any facts that disagreed with that. In fact they would have been wise to blame the murders on Jason. He's something you can shoot and it would have prevented Freddy from returning. So in closing out of eleven films only 9 feature Jason. Of those 9 four of them take place away from Crystal Lake. 2,3 and 4 are all one long spree that ends with his death. 6 is his revival after more than a decade leaving just part seven as a legit what the hell.
30th Mar '17 11:59:21 PM CL
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*** I don't see why ''Freddy vs. Jason'' wouldn't be canon. As for Freddy, he's presumably either stuck where Elm Street used to be, or stuck in the Dream World or Hell, unless he somehow found a way off of Earth.
5th Sep '16 9:17:11 AM nombretomado
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** Freddy and Jason are not in the same universe. Jason vs Freddy, like AlienVsPredator takes place in its own continuity. However Freddy has shown in the past to be quite the rules lawyer when he needs to be. The most likely answer is that he either hitched a ride in someone who was descended from the Elm Street kids. Or even though the ships we see in Jason X are named after monsters that could just be that batch and somewhere there's a batch that were named after trees. A nightmare on Elm ship is the exact sort of thing Freddy would find hilarious.

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** Freddy and Jason are not in the same universe. Jason vs Freddy, like AlienVsPredator ''Franchise/AlienVsPredator'' takes place in its own continuity. However Freddy has shown in the past to be quite the rules lawyer when he needs to be. The most likely answer is that he either hitched a ride in someone who was descended from the Elm Street kids. Or even though the ships we see in Jason X are named after monsters that could just be that batch and somewhere there's a batch that were named after trees. A nightmare on Elm ship is the exact sort of thing Freddy would find hilarious.
1st Jun '16 10:18:23 AM Ansongc2000
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** The expanded universe explains her house was at or near Crystal Lake, her having moved there to confront her trauma. Jason could easily have seen her walking around some day and recognized her (as it's also offical he saw her kill Pamela).
16th May '16 5:08:12 PM SeanRenaud
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* Even after umpteen movies and umpteen - 1 killing sprees, how do the characters in these movies STILL not know who Jason Vorhees is?

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* Even after umpteen movies and umpteen - 1 killing sprees, how do the characters in these movies STILL not know who Jason Vorhees is?is?
** You're overstating the movies. Friday the 13th 2-4 take place over what appears to be a single summer with 2 and 3 being directly back to back. Friday the 13th 5 doesn't actually feature Jason, the villain that time is the father of a mentally disabled teen who is killed in the first act. 6 features his revival as a zombie (or whatever he is) and takes place years after the first four movies with an adult Tommy. Much of that movie hinges on the locals do know about Jason. He's a dead serial killer who up until then had shown no magical powers at all. Seven has little excuse, eight is takes Manhattan and features kids on a cruise. They weren't even at Crystal Lake for most of the time and that is where he's supposed to be. Nine (Jason goes to Hell) they know exactly what Jason is and send the FBI and if not for a serious case of PowersAsThePlotDemands that would have worked just fine on Jason. Ten (Jason X) takes place centuries into the future and clearly real monsters are sufficiently rare that they didn't really believe he could come back from the dead. Jason vs Freddy involves Jason being where he doesn't belong, in a city that has it's own monster who can only attack in your sleep. It's immediately clear that the police (and probably most of the adults) have concluded that Freddy is back again and dismissed any facts that disagreed with that. In fact they would have been wise to blame the murders on Jason. He's something you can shoot and it would have prevented Freddy from returning. So in closing out of eleven films only 9 feature Jason. Of those 9 four of them take place away from Crystal Lake. 2,3 and 4 are all one long spree that ends with his death. 6 is his revival after more than a decade leaving just part seven as a legit what the hell.
15th May '16 7:29:49 PM Freezer
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** Adrenaline? Or maybe his rage at being injuries supplemented his strength?

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** Adrenaline? Or maybe his rage at being injuries supplemented his strength?strength?
* Even after umpteen movies and umpteen - 1 killing sprees, how do the characters in these movies STILL not know who Jason Vorhees is?
20th Mar '16 3:46:57 PM AntMan
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** Well, Jason has always been a rather territorial creature. Maybe he had found her trespassing on "his" turf and just wanted her off of it.
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