History Headscratchers / Frasier

20th Apr '18 9:09:15 AM DoctorNemesis
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** Same way any quasi-celebrity manages to attract a load of attention from their gender of choice despite possible personality issues -- he's a handsome, wealthy and successful quasi-celebrity. Although in absolute fairness to Frasier, "fuck and chuck" is more than a little unfair to him. He has his issues with relationships and he has rather more than someone who wasn't on TV and didn't have writers and casting agents giving him a GirlOfTheWeek would. But whenever he's in one he's often shown to be chivalrous and gentlemanly in his conduct, often is sincere in trying to tries to make things work, generally treats his partners well and on the whole comes off like a pretty nice guy (at least until some farcical misunderstanding completely blows things up for him). Yeah, he gets into standard sitcom territory like trying to date two girls at once, but even those instances are rare. He actually comes off like a bit of a catch (again, pre-farcical misunderstanding).
20th Apr '18 8:54:39 AM DoctorNemesis
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** The first couple of questions can be simply explained by Martin simply wanting to let Emily's mother down gently without her possibly feeling insulted by him not being attracted to her and not anticipating a farce to result from it; it's simple GenreBlindness on his part. As for why he didn't go with the "rocky breakup" excuse, possibly it didn't occur to him until later; ever given a weak excuse for something in the spur of the moment because you were put on the spot and couldn't think of anything better until later? (I'll answer that for you; yes, you have, because everyone has at at least one point.) It was just that. As for Frasier's endgame, he just wants to clear this mess up and get some alone time with Emily, and it's not like he's the one claiming that Martin's gay and Niles is his lover so he can't realistically be blamed by her or us for rolling with the punches that other people throw at him. In any case, seriously? Let's be real here, it's seriously ''waaaaaaaaaaay'' too early in the relationship for Frasier to be even considering marriage and kids with this woman yet. They haven't even had a date. Presumably Frasier reasons that if the relationship's meant to last she'll eventually laugh it off as a bunch of farcical misunderstandings, and if she doesn't then ''que sera sera''. And while we're on the subject, there's plenty of evidence throughout the series that Frasier is not quite the "stickler" for ethics and honesty that he likes to think himself as being.
20th Apr '18 8:40:12 AM DoctorNemesis
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** Who says he didn't? We don't see what he does when he's in Boston, maybe he swings by Cheers for a quick pint if he has a chance. And if he doesn't... well, maybe he doesn't have that many chances? If he's only in town for a week and has things arranged all that week, then there's not much anyone can do about it. Sadly, things and people move on and he's got his own life to lead now. It's just one of those things that happens.
17th Apr '18 7:08:28 AM TheCreepingSpleen
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*** One wonders if, perhaps, Martin was wounded in action during his service in Korea, and as a result maybe spent some time at the 4077th M*A*S*H?
6th Apr '18 4:09:04 PM saimcheeda
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6th Apr '18 4:04:31 PM saimcheeda
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[[folder: Frasier and Cheers]]
* How come Frasier didn't stay in touch with his Cheers friends? He obviously went to Boston frequently for Frederick and for conferences like in Season 9. Doesn't make sense why he wouldn't pop in to visit the gang every chance he got.
18th Mar '18 12:11:13 PM Business21
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[[folder: "Out With Dad" Episode]]
* Obviously the episode was meant to be a spoof of an operatic farce, but the RuleOfFunny only goes so far here until it turns ridiculous. First off, why did Martin owe Emily's mother any kind of explanation for why he wasn't interested in going out with her? She asked him out within MINUTES of meeting him, while knowing absolutely nothing about his life or tastes. That being said, if Martin really did want to give her an excuse, why couldn't he just tell her that he recently went through a rocky breakup and he isn't ready to start dating again? Moving on to the second act, what the hell was Frasier's endgame here? If he wanted a relationship with Emily, how exactly did he intend to reconcile this with Martin pretending to be gay and Niles pretending to be his lover? If they eventually fell in love and got married, the family would either have to continue the farce for the rest of their lives, or Frasier would have to have a VERY awkward conversation with Emily at some point. For a man who spent the whole series as a stickler for ethics and honesty in relationships, he's certainly willing to lie through his teeth to sleep with Emily.
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17th Mar '18 9:15:03 PM Business21
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17th Mar '18 9:14:24 PM Business21
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[[folder: Frasier's reputation]]
* Isn't it a bit odd that Frasier's reputation in Seattle isn't the slightest bit sullied after 11 years of disastrous dates and social faux pas? I could understand him slipping through the cracks if he was just a random psychiatrist, but he is a quasi-celebrity. Given the sheer amount of women he screwed over in the course of the series, wouldn't he have gained a certain notoriety in Seattle as a tomcat and a commitment-phobe? While I understand social media didn't exist in the 90s and early 2000s, it still seems far-fetched that a well-known radio personality could fuck and chuck all these women without one bit of backlash.
9th Mar '18 5:59:15 PM nombretomado
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** Also, even most national radio broadcasts didn't start using time delay until certain events in 2004. Namely, the infamous incident during the SuperBowl XXXVIII half-time show ([[{{BestKnownForTheFanservice}} you know]] [[{{WardrobeMalfunction}} which one]]) and UsefulNotes/{{NASCAR}} driver Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s dropping a S-Bomb after winning at Talladega in October.

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** Also, even most national radio broadcasts didn't start using time delay until certain events in 2004. Namely, the infamous incident during the SuperBowl UsefulNotes/SuperBowl XXXVIII half-time show ([[{{BestKnownForTheFanservice}} you know]] [[{{WardrobeMalfunction}} which one]]) and UsefulNotes/{{NASCAR}} driver Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s dropping a S-Bomb after winning at Talladega in October.
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