History Headscratchers / Frasier

3rd Jul '17 3:56:06 AM DoctorNemesis
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** Also worth noting that beyond his usual expenses (utilities, groceries, etc.), Frasier doesn't have a vindictive ex-wife freezing off practically every avenue of income he has, a ridiculously expensive multi-level apartment eating away his finances and greedy lawyers exploiting him. Niles's financial issues were a direct result of his divorce bleeding him dry, whereas Frasier doesn't have the same excessive demands on his purse, so while he no doubt has to tighten his belt a bit he's not in the same position where he's just bleeding money like Niles is.

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** Also worth noting that beyond his usual expenses (utilities, groceries, etc.), Frasier doesn't have a vindictive ex-wife spitefully freezing off practically every avenue of income he has, a ridiculously expensive multi-level apartment eating away his finances and greedy lawyers exploiting him. Niles's financial issues were a direct result of his divorce bleeding him dry, whereas Frasier doesn't have the same excessive demands on his purse, so while he no doubt has to tighten his belt a bit he's not in the same position where he's just bleeding money like Niles is.
29th Jun '17 8:39:04 PM DoctorNemesis
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** He's just playing on the old phrase "hotter than hell" by throwing in a Dante reference as a quip about the heat, he's not delivering a lecture at a literary symposium. We can surely forgive or overlook him being a bit imprecise in his language under such circumstances.
29th Jun '17 8:25:54 PM DoctorNemesis
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** Also worth noting that beyond his usual expenses (utilities, groceries, etc.), Frasier doesn't have a vindictive ex-wife freezing off practically every avenue of income he has, a ridiculously expensive multi-level apartment eating away his finances and greedy lawyers bleeding him dry either. Niles's financial issues were a direct result of his divorce draining him dry, whereas Frasier doesn't have the same excessive demands on his purse, so while he no doubt has to tighten his belt a bit he's not in the same position where he's just bleeding money like Niles is.

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** Also worth noting that beyond his usual expenses (utilities, groceries, etc.), Frasier doesn't have a vindictive ex-wife freezing off practically every avenue of income he has, a ridiculously expensive multi-level apartment eating away his finances and greedy lawyers bleeding him dry either. exploiting him. Niles's financial issues were a direct result of his divorce draining bleeding him dry, whereas Frasier doesn't have the same excessive demands on his purse, so while he no doubt has to tighten his belt a bit he's not in the same position where he's just bleeding money like Niles is.
15th Apr '17 6:09:43 AM DoctorNemesis
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* It should perhaps be noticed that Lilith frequently gives as good as she gets or even worse. Her very first words to Niles the very first time in the series that she sees him is a snide crack about ''his wife's wedding vows'', after all (I mean, it's Maris, granted, but still). She's not exactly a wounded and bullied innocent in all this.

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* It should perhaps be noticed that Lilith frequently gives as good as she gets or even worse. Her very first words to Niles the The very first time in the series that she sees Niles, her very first words to him is are a snide crack about ''his wife's wedding vows'', after all (I mean, it's Maris, granted, but still). She's not exactly a wounded and bullied pure innocent in all this.
13th Apr '17 5:44:04 AM DoctorNemesis
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*** It should perhaps also be noted that Martin's point in that episode is less that the bullies are justified in targeting Frasier and Niles because they have classy interests and more because Frasier and Niles use their classy interests to make other people feel stupid and themselves superior.

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*** It should perhaps also be noted that Martin's point in that episode is less that the bullies are justified in targeting Frasier and Niles because they have classy interests and more because Frasier and Niles use their classy interests to make other people feel stupid and themselves superior. Martin himself even notes that he has no problem with his sons looking up to [[Series/TheAvengers John Steed]] as a hero and wanting to emulate his admirable qualities; the problem was when it stemmed to them running around wearing bowler hats, which is an arguably unnecessary and slightly pretentious affectation for a pair of kids.
13th Apr '17 5:26:30 AM DoctorNemesis
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** Frasier's unemployment lasts about nine episodes ("Good Grief" to "Roz, A Loan"). Assuming each week's episode takes place roughly a week apart for the characters, that's just over two months. If we add in the (roughly) three month break between the last episode of Season Five and the beginning of Season Six, that gives us about five months (maybe six to round it up). Assuming Frasier has some decent savings accrued and his investments haven't completely crashed, that's a fairly reasonable amount of time for him to be without work without it denting his lifestyle too much. Of course, as others have noted there's the question of how he's affording such an opulent lifestyle to begin with, but it's fiction and WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief has to kick in at some point.

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** Frasier's unemployment lasts about nine episodes ("Good Grief" to "Roz, A Loan"). Assuming each week's episode takes place roughly a week apart for the characters, that's just over two months. If we add in the (roughly) three four month break between the last episode of Season Five and the beginning of Season Six, that gives us about five months (maybe six to round it up).months, maybe seven. Assuming Frasier has some decent savings accrued and his investments haven't completely crashed, that's a fairly reasonable amount of time for him to be without work without it denting his lifestyle too much. Of course, as others have noted there's the question of how he's affording such an opulent lifestyle to begin with, but it's fiction and WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief has to kick in at some point.
** Also worth noting that beyond his usual expenses (utilities, groceries, etc.), Frasier doesn't have a vindictive ex-wife freezing off practically every avenue of income he has, a ridiculously expensive multi-level apartment eating away his finances and greedy lawyers bleeding him dry either. Niles's financial issues were a direct result of his divorce draining him dry, whereas Frasier doesn't have the same excessive demands on his purse, so while he no doubt has to tighten his belt a bit he's not in the same position where he's just bleeding money like Niles is.
20th Mar '17 7:56:55 PM DoctorNemesis
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*** It should perhaps also be noted that Martin's point in that episode is less that the bullies are justified in targeting Frasier and Niles because they have classy interests and more because Frasier and Niles use their classy interests to make other people feel stupid and themselves superior.



* The woman ha a very heavy accent, is speaking in what is to her a second language, is speaking quite quickly, is clearly rather emotional, is talking to Frasier over a phone line, and French is still a second language to Frasier. Even if Frasier has a reasonably fluent command over the French language, these aren't exactly ideal conditions for perfect, flawless communication. The issue isn't that Frasier doesn't understand the word 'Monsieur', it's that he can't clearly make out that it ''is'' the word 'Monsieur' due to the various other communication issues going on.

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* The woman ha has a very heavy accent, is speaking in what is to her a second language, is speaking quite quickly, is clearly rather emotional, is talking to Frasier over a phone line, and French is still a second language to Frasier. Even if Frasier has a reasonably fluent command over the French language, these aren't exactly ideal conditions for perfect, flawless communication. The issue isn't that Frasier doesn't understand the word 'Monsieur', it's that he can't clearly make out that it ''is'' the word 'Monsieur' due to the various other communication issues going on.
17th Mar '17 7:44:51 AM DoctorNemesis
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*** Plus, well... it's hair. People cut their hair and grow it back all the time. It really ''isn't'' that big a deal.
17th Mar '17 7:35:23 AM DoctorNemesis
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* He appears in an episode earlier in Season 11 ("Frasier-Lite"), so I assume it wasn't a behind-the-scenes issue; I imagine the actor simply wasn't available for a cameo appearance and[=/=]or the writers couldn't figure out a way to naturally include him in a more substantial role.
17th Mar '17 7:27:49 AM DoctorNemesis
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** Besides which, whatever the reason behind Martin's fondness for his old chair (and it's most likely a mixture of both; the two aren't mutually exclusive), it's kind of academic at that point. In the first season example, the old chair is gone but it can be recovered; in the later example, the old chair is destroyed beyond repair. Since he's got the memories regardless, Martin can either continue to wallow in bitterness and rage over what is, at the end of the day, just a chair, or he can accept Frasier's gift and gesture in the spirit it's intended in and adopt what is an all-but-identical substitute for both reasons of comfort and sentiment. Since Martin is a relatively mature and decent man, he accepts the new chair.

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** Besides which, whatever the reason behind Martin's fondness for his old chair (and it's most likely a mixture of both; the two aren't mutually exclusive), it's kind of academic at that point. In the first season example, the old chair is gone but it can be recovered; in the later example, the old chair is destroyed beyond repair. Since he's The old chair is just a sentimental signifier; since Martin's got the memories regardless, Martin regardless of what happens to it, his choices are that he can either continue to wallow in bitterness and rage over what is, at the end of the day, just a chair, or he can accept Frasier's gift and gesture in the spirit it's intended in and adopt what is clearly an all-but-identical substitute for both reasons of comfort and sentiment.substitute. Since Martin is a relatively mature and decent man, he accepts the new chair.
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