History Headscratchers / Frasier

4th Oct '17 8:56:17 PM bwburke94
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* In the episode "Rooms with a View", Daphne passes by a hospital room near the end, and in continuing with the theme of a hospital having memories, there's a vision of Niles and Daphne welcoming a new addition to their family. I'm all for {{Crowning Moments Of Heartwarming}}, but that's predicting the future, not remembering something. I guess one of the screenwriters must have been reading a little too much ''[[Literature/AliceInWonderland Through the Looking Glass]]''. ;)

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* In the episode "Rooms with a View", Daphne passes by a hospital room near the end, and in continuing with the theme of a hospital having memories, there's a vision of Niles and Daphne welcoming a new addition to their family. I'm all for {{Crowning Moments Of Heartwarming}}, SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments, but that's predicting the future, not remembering something. I guess one of the screenwriters must have been reading a little too much ''[[Literature/AliceInWonderland Through the Looking Glass]]''. ;)
11th Sep '17 10:29:05 PM DoctorNemesis
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* It should perhaps be noticed that Lilith frequently gives as good as she gets or even worse. The very first time in the series that she sees Niles, her very first words to him are a snide crack about ''his wife's wedding vows'', after all (I mean, it's Maris, granted, but still). She's not exactly a wounded and bullied pure innocent in all this.

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* It should perhaps be noticed noted that Lilith frequently gives as good as she gets or even worse. The very first time in the series that she sees Niles, her very first words to him are a snide crack about ''his wife's wedding vows'', after all (I mean, it's Maris, granted, but still). She's not exactly a wounded and bullied pure innocent in all this.
11th Sep '17 11:18:45 AM TruculentRookery
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** Bus and bench ads are shown with his picture, billboards are referenced, and Bebe's stated she wants his image on everything from coffee mugs to Frisbees. Probably hyperbole at that point, but his image seems to be circulated pretty consistently.
1st Sep '17 5:56:24 PM Octoya
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** Oh, like it's so impossible for human beings to want to try out a different color or different style for a short time. The flashbacks in Crock Tales just happened to catch Roz trying out a different hairstyle while she was unemployed. She was at that point getting her money from phone sex; maybe she applied with that hair thinking the dark color would make her look younger/more attractive (if she applied in person)? Daphne's hair is a little harder to handwave since it was just after she first had sex with Niles, and has distinctly different hair, but it's not impossible she tried that style for a short while.
3rd Jul '17 3:56:06 AM DoctorNemesis
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** Also worth noting that beyond his usual expenses (utilities, groceries, etc.), Frasier doesn't have a vindictive ex-wife freezing off practically every avenue of income he has, a ridiculously expensive multi-level apartment eating away his finances and greedy lawyers exploiting him. Niles's financial issues were a direct result of his divorce bleeding him dry, whereas Frasier doesn't have the same excessive demands on his purse, so while he no doubt has to tighten his belt a bit he's not in the same position where he's just bleeding money like Niles is.

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** Also worth noting that beyond his usual expenses (utilities, groceries, etc.), Frasier doesn't have a vindictive ex-wife spitefully freezing off practically every avenue of income he has, a ridiculously expensive multi-level apartment eating away his finances and greedy lawyers exploiting him. Niles's financial issues were a direct result of his divorce bleeding him dry, whereas Frasier doesn't have the same excessive demands on his purse, so while he no doubt has to tighten his belt a bit he's not in the same position where he's just bleeding money like Niles is.
29th Jun '17 8:39:04 PM DoctorNemesis
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** He's just playing on the old phrase "hotter than hell" by throwing in a Dante reference as a quip about the heat, he's not delivering a lecture at a literary symposium. We can surely forgive or overlook him being a bit imprecise in his language under such circumstances.
29th Jun '17 8:25:54 PM DoctorNemesis
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** Also worth noting that beyond his usual expenses (utilities, groceries, etc.), Frasier doesn't have a vindictive ex-wife freezing off practically every avenue of income he has, a ridiculously expensive multi-level apartment eating away his finances and greedy lawyers bleeding him dry either. Niles's financial issues were a direct result of his divorce draining him dry, whereas Frasier doesn't have the same excessive demands on his purse, so while he no doubt has to tighten his belt a bit he's not in the same position where he's just bleeding money like Niles is.

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** Also worth noting that beyond his usual expenses (utilities, groceries, etc.), Frasier doesn't have a vindictive ex-wife freezing off practically every avenue of income he has, a ridiculously expensive multi-level apartment eating away his finances and greedy lawyers bleeding him dry either. exploiting him. Niles's financial issues were a direct result of his divorce draining bleeding him dry, whereas Frasier doesn't have the same excessive demands on his purse, so while he no doubt has to tighten his belt a bit he's not in the same position where he's just bleeding money like Niles is.
15th Apr '17 6:09:43 AM DoctorNemesis
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* It should perhaps be noticed that Lilith frequently gives as good as she gets or even worse. Her very first words to Niles the very first time in the series that she sees him is a snide crack about ''his wife's wedding vows'', after all (I mean, it's Maris, granted, but still). She's not exactly a wounded and bullied innocent in all this.

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* It should perhaps be noticed that Lilith frequently gives as good as she gets or even worse. Her very first words to Niles the The very first time in the series that she sees Niles, her very first words to him is are a snide crack about ''his wife's wedding vows'', after all (I mean, it's Maris, granted, but still). She's not exactly a wounded and bullied pure innocent in all this.
13th Apr '17 5:44:04 AM DoctorNemesis
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*** It should perhaps also be noted that Martin's point in that episode is less that the bullies are justified in targeting Frasier and Niles because they have classy interests and more because Frasier and Niles use their classy interests to make other people feel stupid and themselves superior.

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*** It should perhaps also be noted that Martin's point in that episode is less that the bullies are justified in targeting Frasier and Niles because they have classy interests and more because Frasier and Niles use their classy interests to make other people feel stupid and themselves superior. Martin himself even notes that he has no problem with his sons looking up to [[Series/TheAvengers John Steed]] as a hero and wanting to emulate his admirable qualities; the problem was when it stemmed to them running around wearing bowler hats, which is an arguably unnecessary and slightly pretentious affectation for a pair of kids.
13th Apr '17 5:26:30 AM DoctorNemesis
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** Frasier's unemployment lasts about nine episodes ("Good Grief" to "Roz, A Loan"). Assuming each week's episode takes place roughly a week apart for the characters, that's just over two months. If we add in the (roughly) three month break between the last episode of Season Five and the beginning of Season Six, that gives us about five months (maybe six to round it up). Assuming Frasier has some decent savings accrued and his investments haven't completely crashed, that's a fairly reasonable amount of time for him to be without work without it denting his lifestyle too much. Of course, as others have noted there's the question of how he's affording such an opulent lifestyle to begin with, but it's fiction and WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief has to kick in at some point.

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** Frasier's unemployment lasts about nine episodes ("Good Grief" to "Roz, A Loan"). Assuming each week's episode takes place roughly a week apart for the characters, that's just over two months. If we add in the (roughly) three four month break between the last episode of Season Five and the beginning of Season Six, that gives us about five months (maybe six to round it up).months, maybe seven. Assuming Frasier has some decent savings accrued and his investments haven't completely crashed, that's a fairly reasonable amount of time for him to be without work without it denting his lifestyle too much. Of course, as others have noted there's the question of how he's affording such an opulent lifestyle to begin with, but it's fiction and WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief has to kick in at some point.
** Also worth noting that beyond his usual expenses (utilities, groceries, etc.), Frasier doesn't have a vindictive ex-wife freezing off practically every avenue of income he has, a ridiculously expensive multi-level apartment eating away his finances and greedy lawyers bleeding him dry either. Niles's financial issues were a direct result of his divorce draining him dry, whereas Frasier doesn't have the same excessive demands on his purse, so while he no doubt has to tighten his belt a bit he's not in the same position where he's just bleeding money like Niles is.
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