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** Hmm, why ''would'' a criminal group steal something to put on an event that thousands of people would pay to see?
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*** That's why it wasn't used to level Zanarkand in the first place.
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** Or maybe Shuyin or Vegnagun's reassembling the Aeons gave the Fayth the idea/convinced them it was possible.
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*** This. There's every indication that while Yuna and Lenne were spiritually almost identical, including being very gentle souls that don't even really want to see their enemies get hurt, Shuyin was a bit of a violent bastard and not a lot like Tidus at all. Tidus seems to be a heavily idealized version of Shuyin... and by "heavily idealized" I mean they seem to have wholly excised the part of his personality that would lead him to see "committing small-scale genocide" as an acceptable alternative to allowing his girlfriend to die, since I don't recall him ever trying to blow up part of Spira to save Yuna.
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*** Maybe Brother has some Qui-Gon qualities.
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** Did you try playing the rest of the game? Doing something that's not very well thought-out but involves getting a lot of attention and adoration is absolutely and totally in character for Leblanc.
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** Probably she wanted to piggyback on Yuna's fame, so she stole the grid to impersonate her.
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* So... what exactly was the point of the intro story-wise? Why exactly did Leblanc steal Yuna's garment grid? Why did she put on a friggen ''concert'' as Yuna? What was she trying to do? I don't care if the intro was to "set the mood" of the game, this is the introduction to the story of the ENTIRE game and it's not explained why it happened in the first place!
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* Okay, in the opening FMV, it's Leblanc and not Yuna performing the concert, because she stole the Songstress Dressphere, right? So where in ''creepy stalker lesbian Hell'' did Leblanc get a dressphere to imitate Yuna's ''summoner'' outfit, let alone her actual full appearance...?
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* Okay, in the opening FMV, it's Leblanc and not Yuna performing the concert, because she stole the Songstress Dressphere, right? So where in ''creepy stalker lesbian Hell'' did Leblanc get a dressphere to imitate Yuna's ''summoner'' outfit, let alone her actual full appearance...??
** She stole the whole Garment Grid. That's why she's able to impersonate Yuna. Presumably the Songstress Dressphere was the only one she had. Yuna was wearing her Summoner outfit when she first acquired the Grid (as the "Eternal Calm" prologue confirms). So when Leblanc put on the Grid with no Dressphere in it, that was the default outfit. She was spherechanging into the Songstress for the first time. I know the "Bare" Dresspheres would contradict this but that's only in the International and Last Mission editions.
** She stole the whole Garment Grid. That's why she's able to impersonate Yuna. Presumably the Songstress Dressphere was the only one she had. Yuna was wearing her Summoner outfit when she first acquired the Grid (as the "Eternal Calm" prologue confirms). So when Leblanc put on the Grid with no Dressphere in it, that was the default outfit. She was spherechanging into the Songstress for the first time. I know the "Bare" Dresspheres would contradict this but that's only in the International and Last Mission editions.
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** Perhaps the Fayth had the power all along but they weren't allowed to use it. After all, if word got out then there would be an uproar of desperate people trying to have their loved ones brought back to life. Yuna saves the world twice and does it completely selflessly. The fayth figure she deserves a reward and ask her if she wants Tidus revived. Also bear in mind Shuyin corrupted the Fayth and had them attack innocent people. Perhaps they want to make it up to Yuna for forcing her to kill them '''again'''.
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** Perhaps the Fayth had the power all along but they weren't allowed to use it. After all, if word got out then there would be an uproar of desperate people trying to have their loved ones brought back to life. Yuna saves the world twice and does it completely selflessly. The fayth figure she deserves a reward and ask her if she wants Tidus revived. Also bear in mind Shuyin corrupted the Fayth and had them attack innocent people. Perhaps they want to make it up to Yuna for forcing her to kill them '''again'''.'''again'''.
* Okay, in the opening FMV, it's Leblanc and not Yuna performing the concert, because she stole the Songstress Dressphere, right? So where in ''creepy stalker lesbian Hell'' did Leblanc get a dressphere to imitate Yuna's ''summoner'' outfit, let alone her actual full appearance...?
* Okay, in the opening FMV, it's Leblanc and not Yuna performing the concert, because she stole the Songstress Dressphere, right? So where in ''creepy stalker lesbian Hell'' did Leblanc get a dressphere to imitate Yuna's ''summoner'' outfit, let alone her actual full appearance...?
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** Perhaps the Fayth had the power all along but they weren't allowed to use it. After all, if word got out then there would be an uproar of desperate people trying to have their loved ones brought back to life. Yuna saves the world twice and does it completely selflessly. The fayth figure she deserves a reward and ask her if she wants Tidus revived. Also bear in mind Shuyin corrupted the Fayth and had them attack innocent people. Perhaps they want to make it up to Yuna for forcing her to kill them '''again'''.
** Perhaps the Fayth had the power all along but they weren't allowed to use it. After all, if word got out then there would be an uproar of desperate people trying to have their loved ones brought back to life. Yuna saves the world twice and does it completely selflessly. The fayth figure she deserves a reward and ask her if she wants Tidus revived. Also bear in mind Shuyin corrupted the Fayth and had them attack innocent people. Perhaps they want to make it up to Yuna for forcing her to kill them '''again'''.
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*** The PowerOfLove that was never the story's focus provided by AssPull writing.PowerOfLove.
*** The PowerOfLove that was never the story's focus provided by AssPull writing.
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*** Grr! The PowerOfLove and AssPull writing.
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***Grr! The PowerOfLove and AssPull writing.
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** There's a difference between wanting to protect your home city and wanting to commit ''genocide''. Lenne is not a sociopath and doesn't want to see any more bloodshed spent.
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* Why does Tidus revive now? The fayth trolled him two years ago about how he is going to desintegrate regardless of what happens. Now, the fayth shows up at the last second explaining he can revive him... To make it more ridiculous it's up to Yuna to decide and it would be completely selfish to say no.
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** The PowerOfLove.
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** But Brother (not Yuna) found him and let him on the airship...
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*Why does Tidus revive now? The fayth trolled him two years ago about how he is going to desintegrate regardless of what happens. Now, the fayth shows up at the last second explaining he can revive him... To make it more ridiculous it's up to Yuna to decide and it would be completely selfish to say no.
*Why does Tidus revive now? The fayth trolled him two years ago about how he is going to desintegrate regardless of what happens. Now, the fayth shows up at the last second explaining he can revive him... To make it more ridiculous it's up to Yuna to decide and it would be completely selfish to say no.
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** Also, Vegnagun has a mind of its own, and could not distinguish friend from foe, which is why it was never used. He may have only wanted to destroy Bevelle (at first), but it might not have stopped there.
** Also, Vegnagun has a mind of its own, and could not distinguish friend from foe, which is why it was never used. He may have only wanted to destroy Bevelle (at first), but it might not have stopped there.
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** It's established that Yuna is really too nice for her own good. Perhaps he simply asked if he could join them and she couldn't say no?
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** It was a control thing. During the days of sin, Yevon controlled nearly all of Spira. People prayed to Yevon hoping to "atone" for their past sins in the hope that Sin would go away. They attempt to destroy Sin with a huge machina, it's a lose-lose situation for them. Sin is destroyed, they lose control of the people. Sin isn't destroyed, they're exposed as hypocrites for betraying their own teachings.
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** If Shuyin was able to corrupt ''Aeons'', I don't think corrupting normal spirits into fiends is gonna be a problem...
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** Maechen mentions this in Chapter 5- the fact that Vegnagun can't detect friend from foe once activated made it too dangerous. Besides, even if they brought down the damn thing, as long as Yu Yevon escaped unharmed (which face it, is a pretty small target) he could eventually reform Sin.
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** There's a difference between wanting to protect your home city and wanting to commit ''genocide''.
** There's a difference between wanting to protect your home city and wanting to commit ''genocide''.
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* Shuyin thinks that he can end the Machina War by jacking Vegnagun and turning it on Bevelle. Thing is, he's absolutely right. Why did Lenne stop him? She's from Zanarkand too and as a summoner it's very likely that she's a part of Zanarkand's army so why does she care if her boyfriend annihilates them? Let him finish Finish off Bevelle then fly back to Zanarkand and give Shuyin a Medal.
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* Shuyin thinks that he can end the Machina War by jacking Vegnagun and turning it on Bevelle. Thing is, he's absolutely right. Why did Lenne stop him? She's from Zanarkand too and as a summoner it's very likely that she's a part of Zanarkand's army so why does she care if her boyfriend annihilates them? Let him finish off Bevelle then fly back to Zanarkand and give Shuyin a Medal.
* Shuyin thinks that he can end the Machina War by jacking Vegnagun and turning it on Bevelle. Thing is, he's absolutely right. Why did Lenne stop him? She's from Zanarkand too and as a summoner it's very likely that she's a part of Zanarkand's army so why does she care if her boyfriend annihilates them? Let him finish off Bevelle then fly back to Zanarkand and give Shuyin a Medal.
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*If Vegnagun has been chilling under Bevelle since the Machina war and the Maesters have knew about it then how come they never used it against Sin? It has the power to wreck the planet so why not aim it at Yu Yevon's space whale and permanently erase Zanarkand's memory?
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