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*** The way Cecil (who did the slapping) and Rydia handled the situation wasn't just "harsh". You just don't tell someone who just saw everyone they loved get murdered in front of them to stop being a crybaby and suck it up, unless you're a sociopath.

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*** The way Cecil (who did the slapping) and Rydia handled the situation wasn't just "harsh". You just don't tell someone who just saw everyone they loved get murdered in front of them to stop being a crybaby and suck it up, unless you're a sociopath.sociopath.
*** It would, but you're forgetting the reason why they went to Damcyan in the first place: Rosa was dying a slow, feverish death in a inn, the only remedy is something known to Edward, without even counting the fact that as they speak Golbez and his minions (the ones who actually murdered Anna and turned Damcyan in a ghost town) are closer and closer to their goal. So I can see why Cecil would go as far as to slap Edward even when he is in a dire situation like that: Cecil risks to lose the woman he loves, and will go at any length to save her. Perhaps it was handled badly and hastily on a meta level, but still considering everyone's situation at the moment, yes, telling him to stop mourning because he can save a life is a necessary cruelty.
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*** The way Cecil (who did the slapping) and Rydia handled the situation wasn't just "harsh". Your just don't tell someone who just saw everyone they loved get murdered in front of them to stop being a crybaby and suck it up, unless you're a sociopath.

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*** The way Cecil (who did the slapping) and Rydia handled the situation wasn't just "harsh". Your You just don't tell someone who just saw everyone they loved get murdered in front of them to stop being a crybaby and suck it up, unless you're a sociopath.
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*** The way Cecil (who did the slapping) and Rydia handled the situation wasn't just "harsh". Your don't tell someone who just had everyone they loved murdered in front of them to stop being a crybaby and suck it up, unless you're a sociopath.

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*** The way Cecil (who did the slapping) and Rydia handled the situation wasn't just "harsh". Your just don't tell someone who just had saw everyone they loved get murdered in front of them to stop being a crybaby and suck it up, unless you're a sociopath.
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** Considering that the reproach comes from Rydia, I dare to say that, harsh or not, it kinda is justified: Rydia went through the same thing and couldn't do anything to prevent the disaster, but still she manage to recover enough to take action and assist Cecil. Edward now not only is an adult, he's also the ''prince'' of Damcyan, and was supposed to protect his people and beloved... and he didn't. He failed and, had the party not hired him, he would likely have kept days weeping in the ruins until a wandering monsters get him. While she was harsh, Rydia had a point and Edward had to move on and do something other than crying.

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** Considering that the reproach comes from Rydia, I dare to say that, harsh or not, it kinda is justified: Rydia went through the same thing and couldn't do anything to prevent the disaster, but still she manage to recover enough to take action and assist Cecil. Edward now not only is an adult, he's also the ''prince'' of Damcyan, and was supposed to protect his people and beloved... and he didn't. He failed and, had the party not hired him, he would likely have kept days weeping in the ruins until a wandering monsters get him. While she was harsh, Rydia had a point and Edward had to move on and do something other than crying.crying.
*** The way Cecil (who did the slapping) and Rydia handled the situation wasn't just "harsh". Your don't tell someone who just had everyone they loved murdered in front of them to stop being a crybaby and suck it up, unless you're a sociopath.
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* When we first meet Prince Edward he's in tears, having just witnessed his family and his beloved Anna get slaughtered right before him. The heroes' response to this? Slapping him, reproaching him and shaming him ''for daring to grieve over losing all his loved ones'', then proceeding to demand his help. '''What the actual fuck?''' It's a wonder he didn't tell them get bent.

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* When we first meet Prince Edward he's in tears, having just witnessed his family and his beloved Anna get slaughtered right before him. The heroes' response to this? Slapping him, reproaching him and shaming him ''for daring to grieve over losing all his loved ones'', then proceeding to demand his help. '''What the actual fuck?''' It's a wonder he didn't tell them get bent.bent.
** Considering that the reproach comes from Rydia, I dare to say that, harsh or not, it kinda is justified: Rydia went through the same thing and couldn't do anything to prevent the disaster, but still she manage to recover enough to take action and assist Cecil. Edward now not only is an adult, he's also the ''prince'' of Damcyan, and was supposed to protect his people and beloved... and he didn't. He failed and, had the party not hired him, he would likely have kept days weeping in the ruins until a wandering monsters get him. While she was harsh, Rydia had a point and Edward had to move on and do something other than crying.
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** Since the Elder is...you know...the Elder or a whole nation of mages he probably has access to magic the party doesn't. It's possible that he used some very rare artefact (like the supersoft item in FF IX that was capable of curing petrification an ordinary soft wasn't able to)
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* When we first meet Prince Edward, he's in tears following the slaughtering of his family and his beloved Anna. The heroes' response to this? Slapping him, reproaching him and shaming him ''for daring to grieve over losing all his loved ones'', then proceeding to demand his help. '''What the actual fuck?''' It's a wonder he didn't tell them get bent.

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* When we first meet Prince Edward, Edward he's in tears following the slaughtering of tears, having just witnessed his family and his beloved Anna.Anna get slaughtered right before him. The heroes' response to this? Slapping him, reproaching him and shaming him ''for daring to grieve over losing all his loved ones'', then proceeding to demand his help. '''What the actual fuck?''' It's a wonder he didn't tell them get bent.
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* When we first meet Prince Edward, he's in tears following Anna's death. The heroes' response to this? Slapping him, reproaching him and treating him like a failure ''for daring to grieve over losing his love'', and then demanding his help. '''What the fuck?''' It's a wonder he didn't tell them get bent.

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* When we first meet Prince Edward, he's in tears following Anna's death. the slaughtering of his family and his beloved Anna. The heroes' response to this? Slapping him, reproaching him and treating shaming him like a failure ''for daring to grieve over losing all his love'', and loved ones'', then demanding proceeding to demand his help. '''What the actual fuck?''' It's a wonder he didn't tell them get bent.
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* When we first meet Prince Edward, he's in tears following Anna's death. The heroes' response to this? Slapping him, reproaching him and treating like a failure ''for daring to grieve over losing his love'', and then demanding his help. '''What the fuck?''' It's a wonder he didn't tell them get bent.

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* When we first meet Prince Edward, he's in tears following Anna's death. The heroes' response to this? Slapping him, reproaching him and treating him like a failure ''for daring to grieve over losing his love'', and then demanding his help. '''What the fuck?''' It's a wonder he didn't tell them get bent.
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* How does King Giott know Cecil and company are allies? They're people from the surface, who arrive in a Baron airship, right as people from the surface using Baron airships are attacking them. They barge into his throne room (nobody apparently thinks to stop them) and immediately ask him where his crystal is with no explanation. And his ''immediate'' reply is literally "oh, so you're allies!", and to immediately tell them the Crystal's exact location. Not only does he need no proof of this, he somehow intuits they're allies even though every single thing about them makes them look like invaders who are about to kill him and take his Crystal. Then, when Yang simply says "I sense someone eavesdropping!" and demands access to the crystal room, Giott instantly opens it with no further questions asked. And ''then'' Cecil and company walk out and say that, uh, sorry, Golbez took the Crystal or something (even though Giott wouldn't have seen him enter ''or'' leave), which no dwarves or anyone Giott has any reason to trust saw, and they need to know where the last one is and how to access it. Which Giott immediately tells them. Seriously, what? If Giott is ''that'' trusting, why didn't Golbez try just walking in there and asking to see it?

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* How does King Giott know Cecil and company are allies? They're people from the surface, who arrive in a Baron airship, right as people from the surface using Baron airships are attacking them. They barge into his throne room (nobody apparently thinks to stop them) and immediately ask him where his crystal is with no explanation. And his ''immediate'' reply is literally "oh, so you're allies!", and to immediately tell them the Crystal's exact location. Not only does he need no proof of this, he somehow intuits they're allies even though every single thing about them makes them look like invaders who are about to kill him and take his Crystal. Then, when Yang simply says "I sense someone eavesdropping!" and demands access to the crystal room, Giott instantly opens it with no further questions asked. And ''then'' Cecil and company walk out and say that, uh, sorry, Golbez took the Crystal or something (even though Giott wouldn't have seen him enter ''or'' leave), which no dwarves or anyone Giott has any reason to trust saw, and they need to know where the last one is and how to access it. Which Giott immediately tells them. Seriously, what? If Giott is ''that'' trusting, why didn't Golbez try just walking in there and asking to see it?it?
* When we first meet Prince Edward, he's in tears following Anna's death. The heroes' response to this? Slapping him, reproaching him and treating like a failure ''for daring to grieve over losing his love'', and then demanding his help. '''What the fuck?''' It's a wonder he didn't tell them get bent.
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* How does King Giott know Cecil and company are allies? They're people from the surface, who arrive in a Baron airship, right as people from the surface using Baron airships are attacking them. They barge into his throne room (nobody apparently thinks to stop them) and immediately ask him where his crystal is with no explanation. And his ''immediate'' reply is literally "oh, so you're allies!", and to immediately tell them the Crystal's exact location. Not only does he need no proof of this, he somehow intuits they're allies even though every single thing about them makes them look like invaders who are about to kill him and take his Crystal. Then, when Yang simply says "I sense someone eavesdropping!" and demands access to the crystal room, Giott instantly opens it with no further questions asked. And ''then'' Cecil and company walk out and say that, uh, sorry, Golbez took the Crystal or something (even though Giott wouldn't have seen him enter ''or'' leave), which no dwarves or anyone Giott has any reason to trust saw, and they need to know where the last one is and how to access it. Which Giott immediately grants them. Seriously, what? If Giott is ''that'' trusting, why didn't Golbez try just walking in there and asking to see it?

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* How does King Giott know Cecil and company are allies? They're people from the surface, who arrive in a Baron airship, right as people from the surface using Baron airships are attacking them. They barge into his throne room (nobody apparently thinks to stop them) and immediately ask him where his crystal is with no explanation. And his ''immediate'' reply is literally "oh, so you're allies!", and to immediately tell them the Crystal's exact location. Not only does he need no proof of this, he somehow intuits they're allies even though every single thing about them makes them look like invaders who are about to kill him and take his Crystal. Then, when Yang simply says "I sense someone eavesdropping!" and demands access to the crystal room, Giott instantly opens it with no further questions asked. And ''then'' Cecil and company walk out and say that, uh, sorry, Golbez took the Crystal or something (even though Giott wouldn't have seen him enter ''or'' leave), which no dwarves or anyone Giott has any reason to trust saw, and they need to know where the last one is and how to access it. Which Giott immediately grants tells them. Seriously, what? If Giott is ''that'' trusting, why didn't Golbez try just walking in there and asking to see it?
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* How does King Giott know Cecil and company are allies? They're people from the surface, who arrive in a Baron airship, right as people from the surface using Baron airships are attacking them. They barge into his throne room (nobody apparently thinks to stop them) and immediately ask him where his crystal is with no explanation. And his ''immediate'' reply is literally "oh, so you're allies!", and to immediately tell them the Crystal's exact location. Not only does he need no proof of this, he somehow intuits they're allies even though every single thing about them makes them look like invaders who are about to kill him and take his Crystal. Then, when Yang simply says "I sense someone eavesdropping!" and demands access to the crystal room, Giott instantly opens it with no further questions asked. Seriously, what? If Giott is ''that'' trusting, why didn't Golbez try just walking in there and asking to see it?

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* How does King Giott know Cecil and company are allies? They're people from the surface, who arrive in a Baron airship, right as people from the surface using Baron airships are attacking them. They barge into his throne room (nobody apparently thinks to stop them) and immediately ask him where his crystal is with no explanation. And his ''immediate'' reply is literally "oh, so you're allies!", and to immediately tell them the Crystal's exact location. Not only does he need no proof of this, he somehow intuits they're allies even though every single thing about them makes them look like invaders who are about to kill him and take his Crystal. Then, when Yang simply says "I sense someone eavesdropping!" and demands access to the crystal room, Giott instantly opens it with no further questions asked. And ''then'' Cecil and company walk out and say that, uh, sorry, Golbez took the Crystal or something (even though Giott wouldn't have seen him enter ''or'' leave), which no dwarves or anyone Giott has any reason to trust saw, and they need to know where the last one is and how to access it. Which Giott immediately grants them. Seriously, what? If Giott is ''that'' trusting, why didn't Golbez try just walking in there and asking to see it?
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* How does King Giott know Cecil and company are allies? They're people from the surface, who arrive in a Baron airship, right as people from the surface using Baron airships are attacking them. They barge into his throne room (nobody apparently thinks to stop them) and immediately ask him where his crystal is with no explanation. And his ''immediate'' reply is literally "oh, so you're allies!", and to immediately tell them the Crystal's exact location. Not only does he need no proof of this, he somehow intuits they're allies even though every single thing about them makes them look like invaders who are about to kill him and take his Crystal.

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* How does King Giott know Cecil and company are allies? They're people from the surface, who arrive in a Baron airship, right as people from the surface using Baron airships are attacking them. They barge into his throne room (nobody apparently thinks to stop them) and immediately ask him where his crystal is with no explanation. And his ''immediate'' reply is literally "oh, so you're allies!", and to immediately tell them the Crystal's exact location. Not only does he need no proof of this, he somehow intuits they're allies even though every single thing about them makes them look like invaders who are about to kill him and take his Crystal. Then, when Yang simply says "I sense someone eavesdropping!" and demands access to the crystal room, Giott instantly opens it with no further questions asked. Seriously, what? If Giott is ''that'' trusting, why didn't Golbez try just walking in there and asking to see it?
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* After the fight behind the Dwarf King's throne room, why did Cecil and company just stand there while Golbez' severed hand slooooowly creeped up to the crystal to claim it?

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* After the fight behind the Dwarf King's throne room, why did Cecil and company just stand there while Golbez' severed hand slooooowly creeped up to the crystal to claim it?it?
* How does King Giott know Cecil and company are allies? They're people from the surface, who arrive in a Baron airship, right as people from the surface using Baron airships are attacking them. They barge into his throne room (nobody apparently thinks to stop them) and immediately ask him where his crystal is with no explanation. And his ''immediate'' reply is literally "oh, so you're allies!", and to immediately tell them the Crystal's exact location. Not only does he need no proof of this, he somehow intuits they're allies even though every single thing about them makes them look like invaders who are about to kill him and take his Crystal.
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** It is very likely that Asura and Leviathan were putting her through TrainingFromHell to make her into a powerhouse fast enough to assist Cecil's party and stop Golbez. As part of that they likely focused on her strengths even if it meant neglecting her secondary capabilities. They didn't have the luxury to leisurely train her into a sage. ''The After Years'' makes it clear that mastering both white and black magic is extremely difficult; Palom, a black-magic genius, wanted to achieve it but couldn't.

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** It is very likely that Asura and Leviathan were putting her through TrainingFromHell to make her into a powerhouse fast enough to assist Cecil's party and stop Golbez. As part of that they likely focused on her strengths even if it meant neglecting her secondary capabilities. They didn't have the luxury to leisurely train her into a sage. ''The After Years'' makes it clear that mastering both white and black magic is extremely difficult; Palom, a black-magic genius, wanted to achieve it but couldn't.couldn't, and he didn't have the pressure of having to frantically trying to cram as much destructive magic as possible into his head in order to beat Golbez.
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** He probably wasn't strong enough to do it alone. In that fight, he relies heavily on Golbez's assistance. And he wasn't able to reach and free Golbez without your party's assistance. While Fusoya is powerful, he's also an old man (represented by his hard-capped MP that never increase).

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** He probably wasn't strong enough to do it alone. In that fight, he relies heavily on Golbez's assistance.assistance; the decisive blow is performed using a doublecast meteor by the two of them. And he wasn't able to reach and free Golbez without your party's assistance. While Fusoya is powerful, he's also an old man (represented by his hard-capped MP that never increase).
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* Why did Fusoya waited for your party to arrive on the Moon before trying to stop Zemus? After the Giant's destruction, we see Fusoya take Zemus down. Why didn't he try that before the crystals were gathered and the Giant summoned?

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* Why did Fusoya waited wait for your party to arrive on the Moon before trying to stop Zemus? After the Giant's destruction, we see Fusoya take Zemus down. Why didn't he try that before the crystals were gathered and the Giant summoned?
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** ''The After Years'' implies that it was an existing place of worship and protection for the crystal that the Dark Elf merely occupied, and was its previous location.
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*** He didn't (consciously, at least) know who Cecil was then. He identifies Cecil after encountering the party in the Tower of Zot - the game shows his startled reaction after approaching Cecil's fallen form, after which he ostentatiously spares him using the excuse of killing him later. Although it's possible he subconsciously recognized who Cecil was, of course.

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*** He didn't (consciously, at least) know who Cecil was then. He identifies Cecil after encountering the party in the Tower of Zot - the game shows his startled reaction after approaching Cecil's fallen form, after which he ostentatiously spares him using the excuse of killing him later. later (''that'' one is almost certainly FightingFromTheInside disguised as VillainBall.) Although it's possible even in the earlier encounter he subconsciously recognized who Cecil was, of course.course, or was simply subconsciously trying to minimize killing people.
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** It is very likely that Asura and Leviathan were putting her through TrainingFromHell to make her into a powerhouse fast enough to assist Cecil's party and stop Golbez. As part of that they likely focused on her strengths even if it meant neglecting her secondary capabilities. They didn't have the luxury to leisurely train her into a sage. ''The After Years'' makes it clear that mastering both white and black magic is extremely difficult; Palom, a black-magic genius, wanted to achieve it but couldn't.

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** It is very likely that Asura and Leviathan were putting her through TrainingFromHell to make her into a powerhouse fast enough to assist Cecil's party and stop Golbez. As part of that they likely focused on her strengths even if it meant neglecting her secondary capabilities. They didn't have the luxury to leisurely train her into a sage. ''The After Years'' makes it clear that mastering both white and black magic is extremely difficult; Palom, a black-magic genius, wanted to achieve it but couldn't.couldn't.
* After the fight behind the Dwarf King's throne room, why did Cecil and company just stand there while Golbez' severed hand slooooowly creeped up to the crystal to claim it?
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** It is very likely that Asura and Leviathan were putting her through TrainingFromHell to make her into a powerhouse fast enough to assist Cecil's party and stop Golbez. As part of that they likely focused on her strengths even if it meant neglecting her secondary capabilities. They didn't have the luxury to leisurely train her into a sage. ''The After Years'' makes it clear that mastering both white and black magic is extremely difficult; Palom wanted to achieve it but couldn't.

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** It is very likely that Asura and Leviathan were putting her through TrainingFromHell to make her into a powerhouse fast enough to assist Cecil's party and stop Golbez. As part of that they likely focused on her strengths even if it meant neglecting her secondary capabilities. They didn't have the luxury to leisurely train her into a sage. ''The After Years'' makes it clear that mastering both white and black magic is extremely difficult; Palom Palom, a black-magic genius, wanted to achieve it but couldn't.
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* What in-universe reason is there for Rydia to neglect white magic to such a degree that she forgets how to use it? You'd think Asura would drill her on healing as well as attacking...

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* What in-universe reason is there for Rydia to neglect white magic to such a degree that she forgets how to use it? You'd think Asura would drill her on healing as well as attacking...attacking...
** It is very likely that Asura and Leviathan were putting her through TrainingFromHell to make her into a powerhouse fast enough to assist Cecil's party and stop Golbez. As part of that they likely focused on her strengths even if it meant neglecting her secondary capabilities. They didn't have the luxury to leisurely train her into a sage. ''The After Years'' makes it clear that mastering both white and black magic is extremely difficult; Palom wanted to achieve it but couldn't.
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** It could just be a quirk of the Lunarian language where the change has meaning to him that isn't obvious to us. Or perhaps it's TranslationConvention or GratuitousEnglish on the meaning of "Zero" (ie. nothingness) to emphasize that he has suffered MotiveDecay from "conquer the earth" to "destroy everything" as part of being reduced to just his disembodied hatred.
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** But where ''were'' the other two crystals before he seized them? Every other crystal in the game is stored in an elaborate worship-chamber, but there's no sign of any place where the two underground crystals Golbez already seized could have been hidden before he got them. Furthermore, wherever he got them from, he would have had to attack it first, but there's no ruined cities or other locations that show signs of having been attacked by him like Damcyan, Fabul, or Mysidia.
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** As an aside, this was in the original Japanese SNES version as well. It was one of the many things that was lost in the original SNES translation (along with eg. Kain's backstory, which he briefly mentions early on in the original Japanese.)

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** The Tower of Babil.

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** The Tower of Babil. You can even find the teleporter they used (one end is near where you fight Dr. Lugae, and the other end is near where you fight Rubicante), but it's out of power when you try to use it.
** However, this raises another question: How did they get ''airships'' to the underworld? They're shown to have a huge fleet of them. They plainly didn't use the Magma Stone (it would have opened a huge noticeable passage), and you can't fly an airship through or alongside the tower. Did they build all their airships there?
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** Being close to Mount Ordeals and knowing the legend of the Paladin, it's possible that it's not new gear so much as relics from a time when Paladins were more common in Mysidia. It is the very start of his equipment progression, after all.
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** In ancient Japan, prior to the advent of the family registration system, lowborn people usually wouldn't have a last name - in fact, Toyotomi Hideyoshi explicitly made it illegal for non-samurai to have surnames. The game reflects that Japanese perspective, where a "medieval" setting would lack surnames for non-nobility. Rydia is sometimes referred to as Rydia of Mist in later material, so it's likely that that's how she would be identified (and probably similarly for Palom and Porom of Mysidia.) Tellah likewise lacks a last name, despite his power. FuSoYa and Golbez, of course, lack surnames because they're aliens with different customs and were never integrated. Whereas the rest of the party is nobility of some form or another (although Cid and Rosa's status are slightly unclear, it's reasonable to infer that they had a high status in Baron.)

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** In ancient Japan, prior to the advent of the family registration system, lowborn people usually wouldn't have a last name - in fact, Toyotomi Hideyoshi explicitly made it illegal for non-samurai to have surnames. The game reflects that Japanese perspective, where a "medieval" setting would lack surnames for non-nobility. Rydia is sometimes referred to as Rydia of Mist in later material, so it's likely that that's how she would be identified (and probably similarly for Palom and Porom of Mysidia.) Tellah likewise lacks a last name, despite his power. FuSoYa [=FuSoYa=] and Golbez, of course, lack surnames because they're aliens with different customs and were never integrated. Whereas the rest of the party is nobility of some form or another (although Cid and Rosa's status are slightly unclear, it's reasonable to infer that they had a high status in Baron.)
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* Why does Mysidia have Paladin gear available in its shop? No one's ever become a Paladin, apparently (the Elder mentions that many have tried to ascend Mount Ordeals and none have returned), and the entire town is full of [[SquishyWizard Squishy Wizards]]. So how did they develop equipment that only Paladins can use?

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* Why does Mysidia have Paladin gear available in its shop? No one's ever become a Paladin, apparently (the Elder mentions that many have tried to ascend Mount Ordeals and none have returned), and the entire town is full of [[SquishyWizard Squishy Wizards]]. So how did they develop equipment that only Paladins can use?use?
* What in-universe reason is there for Rydia to neglect white magic to such a degree that she forgets how to use it? You'd think Asura would drill her on healing as well as attacking...
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*** This might have been intended to be ATasteOfPower gone wrong. It might have been a way to show that Cecil isn't limited to just attacking to first time players.


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** The Elder seems to know the twins better than anyone else, and he lives in Mysidia, the town of magic. It's not too much of a stretch to assert that he has access to knowledge Tellah doesn't.


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** In a medieval setting, the life span is pretty low for humans. Bonus years for white mages usually being around to serve as doctors and the potions for first aid, he might be starting to forget things.


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*** Not to mention the fact that Yang, Cecil and Edward were sent flying effortlessly by Golbez, Rydia had to either be terrorized by Golbez (understandably so) or be worried that further harm will come to her friends, both outcomes preventing her to try anything against him just yet. Then again, he would hardly imagine then that this little girl would grow so fast...


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*** After [[ATasteOfPower giving the gift to Cecil]], he left confidant that the warning came across. If Cecil comes after him, he would do so knowing that the outcome may be the same.


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*** The DS version expands a bit on Golbez's background. He lived with Kluya and was a skilled black mage, then training under Zemus filled the rest. Cecil, on the other hand, became a Paladin by getting blessed by his father...

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