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** Possibly the original sequence would've been for him to fall onto the windshield when the bus was teetering on the brink, only the editing screwed up.
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** The first three films (and the fifth since it's set in 2001) all take place in the early 2000s. Limited internet, lack of prominent social media (at least among everyday teens and twentysomethings). If you didn't have a home computer, you weren't on the internet regularly then. And this kind of thing wouldn't get mainstream press coverage - the accidents would but the premonitions and suspicious circumstances would only show up on conspiracy theory websites, which would be considered largely a joke and not visited by most people. And actually in the third film, Wendy does some researching and finds the figures about Flight 180, so there is some information out there; it's just not common knowledge.
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**My question is: In The Final Destination, one of the characters tries killing themselves with gun and hanging but it doesn't work. Okay? But what if just tried stabbing himself? What would've happened? Would he be bleeding out alive until it would be his turn? Or would he still be kept alive without the knives even working, making the characters realize Death was more supernatural? Sorry, but there's death, and then there's just bodily functions logic.
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** He was thinking the whole time of his original seat on the plane (his ticket would say his planned seat number). It's not until he sees the article about Blake and Christa that he realises they asked him to switch seats. In the vision they ask him to switch, and he goes to another seat that's much further away. In the original plan, he was supposed to move and get killed that way. When he was remembering who sat where, he accounted for his assigned seat on the plane, forgetting that he moved. The order went Tod, Terri, Ms Lewton, Carter, Billy, Clear and then Alex.
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** We never find out. Perhaps he could have.
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** Yep. It's why the third film is considered a major step down in quality.
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** All the news ever reports is horrible tragedies and accidents. The public is desensitised to the hundred people killed in a disaster today because they're going to hear about something equally horrible the next day.
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** Well Ali Larter is a natural blonde so maybe the colour in the first film was dyed, and it had grown out by then (or she'd had it touched up before she went into the cell). Her hair actually looks quite messy, as if she hasn't washed it in a while - so she doesn't seem to be washing regularly. We can assume there's a protocol for allowing her to bathe - maybe a nurse comes in with a tub and she's washed under tight supervision. The clothes could be checked out and approved before being passed into the cell.
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** I've seen it happen. We mentioned it as a health and safety risk and got laughter in response.
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*So why aren't people freaking out more about surviving massive accidents? now, while the first 3 movies accidents happened within the span of about 4 years, which, while tragic, are nothing to get worked up about. But every accident that had a survivor who claimed to "see" the accident happen a few minutes before it did, and in those incidents every person who survived died in horrific and weird accidents, not just a couple, according to WordOfGod not a single person in the series has survived more than a few months at most, That is pretty newsworthy, and many more people would be aware of these facts as the age of the internet started gaining steam, I would be abit more worried about this if I had survived a freak accident and someone claimed to have saw it after that.
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** Death might've done so in an attempt to obscure its doings ''from Alex'', who'd already messed up its plans once already. After Alex and Clear caught wise to how Death was actively intervening to ensure people died, there was no point to concealing the improbable nature of the "accidental" deaths.
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**** Maybe they weren't standard bulbs, but some other kind that wasn't meant to be used in that model of tanning bed. Or even one that (we hope!) had been withdrawn from the market ''because'' it was dangerous, that the tanning facility bought cheap on the sly? Remember that Death in this series takes full advantage of shoddy workmanship and cut-rate maintenance every chance it gets.
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** Alternatively, Tony Todd isn't the devil. He IS death. The novels showcase Death appearing as an African American male.
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** The movie is specifically about the people being hunted by Death. Tony Todd, who does seem rather odd of a character, is not implied to be the devil nor implied to be behind it all as he gives them routinely accurate advice (despite the fact his advice is never seen into fruition). Also, Death is more than likely omniscience and omnipresent. It can be everywhere at once, attending to those dying across the world all at one time.
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* The films in general. Why excatly does Death give his vision these people clear warnings and present ''warnings'' and a way to escape his/her your orginal plan. If these people are on your list, and they're gonna die no matter what. Why let them escape you, simply so you can spend the rest of your time hunting them down. Seems overly cruel in my opinion, but if this question was already asked and answered, than I'm sorry.
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* The films in general. Why excatly does Death give them such persific his vision clear warnings about and a way to escape his/her orginal plan. If these people are on your list, and they're gonna die no matter what. Why give let them a chance to escape your orginal plan, you, simply so you can spend the rest of your time hunting them down. Seems overly cruel in my opinion. If opinion, but if this question was already asked and answered, than I'm sorry.
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* Why excatly does Death give them warning visions. If he wants them to die, why warn them ahead of time. Seems a bit cruel.
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*** In this troper's humble opinion, number three was the best because the [[PlotWhatPlot [[NoPlotNoProblem lack of coherent story]] meant it could just take the concept to its logical extreme and not bog itself down in inane metaphysical discussion (FD2, I'm looking at you) and Devon Sawa.
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*** The third one (and the second one, but to a lesser extent) were more about "Hey! Let's see just exactly how far we can run this into the ground!" It was less of an actual [[PlotWhatPlot [[NoPlotNoProblem plot]] and more of a way to see how many * cough* interesting ways they could kill people.
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* Why do these movies exist? Seriously, why do they exist? From a purely metalogical standpoint, the premise just makes no sense whatsoever: Someone has a premonition that a bunch of people including themselves will die horribly in an accident, saves some people and themselves from said accident, then they all (mostly) get killed one by one in a series of [[Main/NecroNonSequitur bizarre accidents]] by the [[Main.GrimReaper Grim Reaper]]. Either Grimmy is bored with normal death, and is screwing with the vision-bearer ''just'' to cause the Rube Goldbergian deaths and get a chuckle, or he has no idea that the visions even exist, and ends up getting caught with his scythe up his pelvis when the supposed victims avoid their fate. Either way, what's the point?
** Because the writer was inspired by the ''Series/TwilightZone'' episode "Twenty-two" and wanted to expand the story into a full length movie.
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** Because the writer was inspired by the
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** Arguably, trying to survive and keep others alive is the ultimate way to screw up the plan, since it's doing the exact opposite of the plan's objective. Everyone's already doing that.
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*** To quote [[Series/RedDwarf Dave Lister]], "If Death comes anywhere near me, I'll rip his nipples off".
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* Okay, so in FD5, during the LASIK scene, the irresponsiblity of the doctor and the...MASSIVE misrepresentation of the surgery aside...who’s the wise guy who put a water cooler right next to a plug?
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*** For all we know, visions ''do'' happen to people who can actually prevent disasters like these, all the time. They just don't get made into movies, because if the visionary averts the disaster they'd foreseen, there's no story to speak of, just some confused schlub wondering why they had a hallucination and if it ''really'' made any difference that they picked up that metal doodad or whatever.
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*** For all we know, visions ''do'' happen to people who can actually prevent disasters like these, in this Verse, all the time. They just don't get made into movies, because if the visionary averts the disaster they'd foreseen, there's no story to speak of, just some confused schlub wondering why they had a hallucination and if it ''really'' made any difference that they picked up that metal doodad or whatever.
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*** For all we know, visions ''do'' happen to people who can actually prevent disasters like these, all the time. They just don't get made into movies, because if the visionary averts the disaster they'd foreseen, there's no story to speak of, just some confused schlub wondering why they had a hallucination and if it ''really'' made any difference that they picked up that metal doodad or whatever.
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** It's to do with the whole "New life defeats death" thing, they explore in ''Final Destination 2''; it is theorised that if a woman who cheated death manages t have a baby it "resets" the list, or something because that baby was never part of the original design. It has nothing to do with how "innocent" the survivors are.
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** I might be overthinking the plot, but the manga ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'' has a premise that might be comparable. In it, the world's mostly governed by causality: everyone's individually doing what they think they want to do, but their criss-crossing motives always lead to whatever the PowersThatBe want to happen. But if someone survives the moment that they were supposed to die, they become a wild card. They're not supposed to exist in the world, and everything they do has the potential to throw fate right off its rails. Not coincidentally, all the forces of darkness are hellbent on wiping out the protagonists for exactly that reason. Something pretty similar might be going in ''FinalDestination''. Death has a plan, but humans sometimes see through it, and if they do, they can avert it and start screwing around with destiny. But since they're now a threat to the cosmic order, the whole system of cause and effect gets twisted into correcting the imbalance and getting rid of them. Though why it feels the need to do it in the most elaborately bloodthirsty way possible is another matter...
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** I might be overthinking the plot, but the manga ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'' has a premise that might be comparable. In it, the world's mostly governed by causality: everyone's individually doing what they think they want to do, but their criss-crossing motives always lead to whatever the PowersThatBe want to happen. But if someone survives the moment that they were supposed to die, they become a wild card. They're not supposed to exist in the world, and everything they do has the potential to throw fate right off its rails. Not coincidentally, all the forces of darkness are hellbent on wiping out the protagonists for exactly that reason. Something pretty similar might be going in ''FinalDestination''.''Franchise/FinalDestination''. Death has a plan, but humans sometimes see through it, and if they do, they can avert it and start screwing around with destiny. But since they're now a threat to the cosmic order, the whole system of cause and effect gets twisted into correcting the imbalance and getting rid of them. Though why it feels the need to do it in the most elaborately bloodthirsty way possible is another matter...
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* If Clear wouldn't let anyone in her padded cell with a, b, c, d, etc., how was her hair still dyed? And trimmed? And how was she still clean? And where did those new clothes come from?
* In the alternate ending to the first Final Destination, they had Clear temporarily cheating death when she was pregnant with Alex's baby, then death coming back for her (implied) after she gave birth, thus implying that it doesn't kill the innocent and uninvolved. Okay. A few questions: Why, then, did it let the plane, with children on it, explode? And, if Clear wasn't meant to live, then that baby wasn't meant to be born, so why was it chill with that?
* In the alternate ending to the first Final Destination, they had Clear temporarily cheating death when she was pregnant with Alex's baby, then death coming back for her (implied) after she gave birth, thus implying that it doesn't kill the innocent and uninvolved. Okay. A few questions: Why, then, did it let the plane, with children on it, explode? And, if Clear wasn't meant to live, then that baby wasn't meant to be born, so why was it chill with that?
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**** People have always been saved as an indirect side-effect of the visionary's actions in this series. Some of the teens kicked off the plane in the first film or the coaster in the third hadn't done jack-squat to indicate they ''believed'' said visionary's warnings: they just got booted out because they groused about all the fuss, or were ''with'' somebody who did get kicked off. Heck, one could just as well argue that Death saved the ''French teacher'''s life.
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** They look about middle-school age, so it's unlikely they'd have the full force of the court system brought down on them. More likely they (or their parents) would pay a hefty fine for cruelty to animals, but they wouldn't be held responsible for the freak results of the horse's flight, which went ''far'' beyond anyone's reasonable expectation. If anything, the fair's organizers might be susceptible to a lawsuit for unsafe placement and storage of fireworks: a much bigger contributing factor in [[spoiler: Ian's death]].
