History Headscratchers / EverybodyLovesRaymond

11th Sep '17 12:07:32 AM Business21
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* This is my nitpick of the entire series, but I think it also qualifies as a headscratcher. WHY in the living hell didn't Debra ever have an open discussion with the elder Barones about her feelings? The series openly established that Frank and Marie were as dense as bricks, and had no idea of the disruption they caused to the younger Barones' home. But instead of complaining about it for nine years and crucifying Ray at every instance, wouldn't it have made a hell of a lot more sense for Debra to tell Frank and Marie just once how she felt about them barging into their house every day? Over the course of 210 episodes, Debra confronted Marie over this just ONE TIME ("The Letter"), and it was swept under the rug at the conclusion of the episode. The whole thing is made worse with the fact that the series paints Debra as an AlphaBitch and makes Ray the one who is too scared to stand up to his parents, whereas Debra has no more of a backbone than he does in regard to the elder Barones.

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* This is my nitpick of the entire series, but I think it also qualifies as a headscratcher. WHY in the living hell didn't Debra ever have an open discussion with the elder Barones about her feelings? The series openly established that Frank and Marie were as dense as bricks, and had no idea of the disruption they caused to the younger Barones' home. But instead of complaining about it for nine years and crucifying Ray at every instance, wouldn't it have made a hell of a lot more sense for Debra to tell Frank and Marie just once how she felt about them barging into their house every day? Over the course of 210 episodes, Debra confronted Marie over this just ONE TIME ("The Letter"), and it was swept under the rug at the conclusion of the episode. The whole thing is made worse with the fact that the series paints Debra as an AlphaBitch and makes Ray the one who is too scared to stand up to his parents, whereas while in reality Debra has no more of a backbone than he does in regard to the elder Barones.
11th Sep '17 12:05:03 AM Business21
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* This is my nitpick of the entire series, but I think it also qualifies as a headscratcher. WHY in the living hell didn't Debra ever have an open discussion with the elder Barones about her feelings? The series openly established that Frank and Marie were as dense as bricks, and had no idea of the disruption they caused to the younger Barones' home. But instead of complaining about it for nine years and crucifying Ray at every instance, wouldn't it have made a hell of a lot more sense for Debra to tell Frank and Marie just once how she felt about them barging into their house every day? Over the course of 210 episodes, Debra confronted Marie over this just ONE TIME ("The Letter"), and it was swept under the rug at the conclusion of the episode. The whole thing is made worse with the fact that the series paints Debra as an AlphaBitch and makes Ray the one who is too scared to stand up to his parents, whereas Debra has just as little of a backbone as he does in regard to the elder Barones.

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* This is my nitpick of the entire series, but I think it also qualifies as a headscratcher. WHY in the living hell didn't Debra ever have an open discussion with the elder Barones about her feelings? The series openly established that Frank and Marie were as dense as bricks, and had no idea of the disruption they caused to the younger Barones' home. But instead of complaining about it for nine years and crucifying Ray at every instance, wouldn't it have made a hell of a lot more sense for Debra to tell Frank and Marie just once how she felt about them barging into their house every day? Over the course of 210 episodes, Debra confronted Marie over this just ONE TIME ("The Letter"), and it was swept under the rug at the conclusion of the episode. The whole thing is made worse with the fact that the series paints Debra as an AlphaBitch and makes Ray the one who is too scared to stand up to his parents, whereas Debra has just as little no more of a backbone as than he does in regard to the elder Barones.
11th Sep '17 12:03:26 AM Business21
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* This is my nitpick of the entire series, but I think it also qualifies as a headscratcher. WHY in the living hell didn't Debra ever have an open discussion with the elder Barones about her feelings? The series openly established that Frank and Marie were as dense as bricks, and had no idea of the disruption they caused to the younger Barones' home. But instead of complaining about it for nine years and crucifying Ray at every instance, wouldn't it have made a hell of a lot more sense for Debra to tell Frank and Marie just once how she felt about them barging into their house every day? Over the course of 210 episodes, Debra confronted Marie over this ONE TIME ("The Letter"), and it was swept under the rug at the conclusion of the episode. The whole thing is made worse with the fact that the series paints Debra as an AlphaBitch and makes Ray the one who is too scared to stand up to his parents, whereas Debra has just as little of a backbone as he does in regard to the elder Barones.

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* This is my nitpick of the entire series, but I think it also qualifies as a headscratcher. WHY in the living hell didn't Debra ever have an open discussion with the elder Barones about her feelings? The series openly established that Frank and Marie were as dense as bricks, and had no idea of the disruption they caused to the younger Barones' home. But instead of complaining about it for nine years and crucifying Ray at every instance, wouldn't it have made a hell of a lot more sense for Debra to tell Frank and Marie just once how she felt about them barging into their house every day? Over the course of 210 episodes, Debra confronted Marie over this just ONE TIME ("The Letter"), and it was swept under the rug at the conclusion of the episode. The whole thing is made worse with the fact that the series paints Debra as an AlphaBitch and makes Ray the one who is too scared to stand up to his parents, whereas Debra has just as little of a backbone as he does in regard to the elder Barones.
11th Sep '17 12:02:04 AM Business21
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* This is my nitpick of the entire series, but I think it also qualifies as a headscratcher. WHY in the living hell didn't Debra ever have an open discussion with the elder Barones about her feelings? The series openly established that Frank and Marie were as dense as bricks, and had no idea of the disruption they caused to the younger Barones' home. But instead of complaining about it for nine years and crucifying Ray at every instance, wouldn't it have made a hell of a lot more sense for Debra to tell Frank and Marie just once how she felt about them barging into their house every day? Over the course of 210 episodes, Debra confronted Marie over this ONE TIME ("The Letter"), and it was swept under the rug at the conclusion of the episode. The whole thing is made worse with the fact that the series paints Debra as an AlphaBitch and makes Ray the one who is too scared to stand up to his parents, whereas Debra has just as little of a backbone as he does in regard to the elder Barones.
28th May '17 1:48:06 PM nombretomado
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** Uh, they're reenacting it because that's the group Frank was involved with - the group reenacts numerous battles from different wars. They never said it was the anniversary of the battle or that it took place in Long Island; they said it was the anniversary of their first reenactment of it. This is a case of TvTropes.Orgusersareidiotswhothinkquestioningperfectlylogicalthingsmakesthemgoodcriticalthinkers.

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** Uh, they're reenacting it because that's the group Frank was involved with - the group reenacts numerous battles from different wars. They never said it was the anniversary of the battle or that it took place in Long Island; they said it was the anniversary of their first reenactment of it. This is a case of TvTropes.{{Wiki/TvTropes}}.Orgusersareidiotswhothinkquestioningperfectlylogicalthingsmakesthemgoodcriticalthinkers.
14th Jul '16 1:17:33 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Why, in the episode Civil War, are they reenacting the battle of Gettysburg, one of the most famous battles of the American Civil War, in Long Island, in the middle of winter? Gettysburg wasn't in Long Island, and it was in July. It seemed like one giant episode of ArtisticLicenseHistory and TheyJustDidntCare, especially as the entire episode revolves around it.

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* Why, in the episode Civil War, are they reenacting the battle of Gettysburg, one of the most famous battles of the American Civil War, in Long Island, in the middle of winter? Gettysburg wasn't in Long Island, and it was in July. It seemed like one giant episode of ArtisticLicenseHistory and TheyJustDidntCare, ArtisticLicenseHistory, especially as the entire episode revolves around it.
20th May '16 8:09:22 PM ShutUpIdiots
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**Uh, they're reenacting it because that's the group Frank was involved with - the group reenacts numerous battles from different wars. They never said it was the anniversary of the battle or that it took place in Long Island; they said it was the anniversary of their first reenactment of it. This is a case of TvTropes.Orgusersareidiotswhothinkquestioningperfectlylogicalthingsmakesthemgoodcriticalthinkers.
19th Apr '16 8:53:48 AM Business21
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* In "Good Girls", it's revealed that Robert was born earlier than he thought, due to being conceived from before Frank and Marie got married. But are we really expected to believe Robert never saw his birth certificate, which would ''have'' to say something different?

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* In "Good Girls", it's revealed that Robert was born earlier than he thought, due to being conceived from before Frank and Marie got married. But are we really expected to believe Robert never saw his birth certificate, which would ''have'' to say something different?different?
** RuleOfFunny, but I always wondered why they didn't just keep his birthday the same and lie about when they got married, which would have been a much easier date to fake. I guess that wouldn't have been as embarrassing for Robert, therefore not as funny.
3rd Apr '16 12:00:57 AM nombretomado
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** Ray Romano was at least aware of this, if Ray Barone wasn't. In an HBO comedy showcase after ''EverybodyLovesRaymond'' was off the air, he said something like "You have no idea how many times on the show I wanted to say 'Shut the fuck up, Debra!'"

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** Ray Romano was at least aware of this, if Ray Barone wasn't. In an HBO comedy showcase after ''EverybodyLovesRaymond'' ''Series/EverybodyLovesRaymond'' was off the air, he said something like "You have no idea how many times on the show I wanted to say 'Shut the fuck up, Debra!'"
22nd Mar '16 12:56:10 PM speedyboris
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** That assumes they don't show up early - or that they stay away from the house long enough to allow everyone to set up.

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** That assumes they don't show up early - or that they stay away from the house long enough to allow everyone to set up.up.
* In "Good Girls", it's revealed that Robert was born earlier than he thought, due to being conceived from before Frank and Marie got married. But are we really expected to believe Robert never saw his birth certificate, which would ''have'' to say something different?
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