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* Follow up: did the Eternals tolerate the Aztec routine practice of human sacrifice? They were outraged at the acts of the Spaniards, but did they find the Aztecs' own practices acceptable?
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* It's also possible that Ikaris secretly ''wanted'' to be caught so he could '''finally''' air his grievances and resentments he's been bottling up for literal centuries. He wants the Emergence to happen, not out of any true loyalty to Arishem, but because he wants to be free of the life he's been forced to endure as Ajak's NumberTwo.

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* ** It's also possible that Ikaris secretly ''wanted'' to be caught so he could '''finally''' air his grievances and resentments he's been bottling up for literal centuries. He wants the Emergence to happen, not out of any true loyalty to Arishem, but because he wants to be free of the life he's been forced to endure as Ajak's NumberTwo.

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** Also, Ikaris is ''sick'' of living at this point. He wants the Emergence to happen as soon as possible so he can be reset and sent to another planet, and possibly have another shot with Sersi.



* It's also possible that Ikaris secretly ''wanted'' to be caught so he could '''finally''' air his grievances and resentments he's been bottling up for literal centuries. He wants the Emergence to happen, not out of any true loyalty to Arishem, but because he wants to be free of the life he's been forced to endure as Ajak's NumberTwo.



** The atomic bomb also represents humanity crossing a line where *it could destroy itself*. Genocidal wars previously always meant one side would win and humanity would continue, but presumably Phastos is smart enough to forsee how nuclear war could lead to humanity's extinction. It's a new level of destruction, only possible with technology Phastos put in motion.

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** The atomic bomb also represents humanity crossing a line where *it '''it could destroy itself*.itself'''. Genocidal wars previously always meant one side would win and humanity would continue, but presumably Phastos is smart enough to forsee how nuclear war could lead to humanity's extinction. It's a new level of destruction, only possible with technology Phastos put in motion.
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** The atomic bomb also represents humanity crossing a line where *it could destroy itself*. Genocidal wars previously always meant one side would win and humanity would continue, but presumably Phastos is smart enough to forsee how nuclear war could lead to humanity's extinction. It's a new level of destruction, only possible with technology Phastos put in motion.
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** Makes one wonder if Thanos is revealed to be one of the 10 Eternals sent to Titan. Why did Arishem make him large ans purple? Comic wise Thanos has deviant syndrome from A'Laes and Sui-San trying for a naturally born baby (comic retconnes this as being typically impossible for the Eternals to reproduce with each other). Though Eros clearly came out fine.

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** Makes one wonder if Thanos is revealed to be one of the 10 Eternals sent to Titan. Why did Arishem make him large ans and purple? Comic wise Comic-wise Thanos has deviant syndrome from A'Laes and Sui-San trying for a naturally born baby (comic retconnes (the comics retconned this as being typically impossible for the Eternals to reproduce with each other). Though Eros clearly came out fine.



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* Druigg's mind control seemed to be putting Tiamut to sleep before Ikaris interrupted. So, why did Sersi decide to kill Tiamut when Druigg could have non-lethally stopped the Celestial?

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* Druigg's Druig's mind control seemed to be putting Tiamut to sleep before Ikaris interrupted. So, why did Sersi decide to kill Tiamut when Druigg Druig could have non-lethally stopped the Celestial?



** i guessed Tiamut as a foetus is not solid but rarher intangible. But becomes solid/tangible during emergence. It is possible due to Tiamut emerging to the point Sersi was standing on their hand. Maybe putting Tiamut to sleep would be an option as most of the physical body is tangible and solid. Therefore not able to safelty fit in the Earths core.
** Rhat or Ikaris lasering Druig injured him to the point that he can't focus his psychic powers. Hence why he knocked out Sprite with a rock rather than his powers (its mentioned by Gilgamesh that he had Druig use his powers to look after Thena whilst Gilgamesh went on holiday)

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** i This troper guessed Tiamut as was a foetus is that's not solid solid, but rarher rather intangible. But becomes Tiamut will only become solid/tangible during emergence. It is possible due to the Emergence. Tiamut emerging emerged to the point Sersi was standing on their hand. Maybe putting Tiamut to sleep would be an was the best option as most of the their physical body is tangible and solid. Therefore Therefore, not able to safelty safely fit in the Earths Earth's core.
** Rhat That or Ikaris lasering Druig injured him to the point that he can't couldn't focus his psychic powers. Hence why he knocked out Sprite with a rock rather than with his powers (its (it was mentioned by Gilgamesh that he had Druig use his powers to look after Thena whilst Gilgamesh went on holiday)holiday).



** It possible that Phastos didnt live in the US all this time. If he had its possible he moved around a lot over the centuries. Id take a guess he met his Husband Ben in Lebanon, but due to West Asian countries having discriminatiom against homosexuals. Ben likely chose to immigrate to the US where he believed itd be easier for Homosexual Black passing alien and West Asian man to get married and havea life together. Hell tbey may have immigrated to the US after Gay Marriage became legal.

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** It It's possible that Phastos didnt didn't live in the US all this time. If he had its had, it's possible he moved around a lot over the centuries. Id I'd take a guess he met his Husband husband Ben in Lebanon, but due to West Asian countries having discriminatiom discrimination against homosexuals. homosexuals, Ben likely chose to immigrate to the US where he believed itd it'd be easier for Homosexual Black passing a homosexual black-passing alien and a West Asian man to get married and havea have a life together. Hell tbey Hell, they may have immigrated to the US after Gay Marriage gay marriage became legal.

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*** They wouldn't have had time or knowledge to deal with Thanos; check out the Fridge page.



** We know that Sprite briefly lived with Kingo and Ajak, Ajak comforted Phastos in Hiroshima as well. Meanwhile, Ikaris didn't seem to have any trouble going straight to Ajak's cabin as if he'd been there before. so it's likely that kept in touch at least enough that they could find each other again.

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** We know that Sprite briefly lived with Kingo and Ajak, Ajak comforted Phastos in Hiroshima as well. Meanwhile, Ikaris didn't seem to have any trouble going straight to Ajak's cabin as if he'd been there before. so it's likely that they kept in touch at least enough that they could find each other again.



** Makws one wonder if Thanos is revealed to be one of the 10 Eternals sent to Titan. Why did Arishem make him large ans purple? Comic wise Thanos has deviant syndrome from A'Laes and Sui-San trying for a naturally born baby (comic retconnes this as being typically impossible for the Eternals to reproduce with each other). Though Eros clearly came out fine.

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** Makws Makes one wonder if Thanos is revealed to be one of the 10 Eternals sent to Titan. Why did Arishem make him large ans purple? Comic wise Thanos has deviant syndrome from A'Laes and Sui-San trying for a naturally born baby (comic retconnes this as being typically impossible for the Eternals to reproduce with each other). Though Eros clearly came out fine.



** Also Knowwhere is not a planet but a colonised celestial skull. Comics Knull os responsible using the Necrosword (I think). Maybe Knowwhere skulls is what left of the celestial of another planet after their Eternals tried to prevent that emergence.

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** Also Knowwhere is not a planet but a colonised celestial skull. Comics Knull os is responsible using the Necrosword (I think). Maybe Knowwhere skulls is what left of the celestial of another planet after their Eternals tried to prevent that emergence.
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** a Deleted scene has Sprite form an illusion of a deviant over a Smilodon skeleton. Implying some prehistorical animals may have been deviants or because the deviants resembled animals after eating them, she was just comparing or seeing what a Sabretooth Cat shaped Deviant would look like. Kinda like fan artist using the colour scheme one pokemon ans putting over the shape of another pokemon.

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** a Deleted A deleted scene has Sprite form an illusion of a deviant over a Smilodon skeleton. Implying some prehistorical animals may have been deviants or because the deviants resembled animals after eating them, she was just comparing or seeing what a Sabretooth Cat shaped Deviant would look like. Kinda like fan artist using the colour scheme one pokemon ans and putting over the shape of another pokemon.
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** Most notably the deviants are mostly Sinuous, thus made of fleshy muscle fibres and barely have anybhard tissue except for teeth, claws, horns, hooves or beak. Even then they spontaneously develop some of these from some of the animal they eat. Thus if any remains did last they were similar or identical to whatevee animal they ate and evolved to resemble.
** a Deleted scene has Sprite form an illusion of a deviant over a Smilodon skeleton. Implying some prehistorical animals may have been deviants or because the deviants resembled animals after eating them, she was just comparing or seeing what a Sabretooth Cat shaped Deviant would look like. Kinda like fan artist using the colour scheme one pokemon ans putting over the shape of another pokemon.

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** Another note, if Ego the Living Planet is a Celestial. Why was he just a brain with no body, why did he create a living planet as his body? Did the Eternals of his planet find a was to remove him from the core before his birth? Leaving him bodyless? Did he creat a planet body for himself instictively due to being removed from his planet before he could Emerge?
** Alsp Knowwhere is not a planet but a colonised celestial skull. Comics Knull os responsible using the Necrosword (I think). Maybe Knowwhere skulls is what left of the celestial of another planet after their Eternals tried to prevent that emergence.

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** Another note, if Ego the Living Planet is a Celestial. Why was he just a brain with no body, why did he create a living planet as his body? Did the Eternals of his planet find a was way to remove him from the core before his birth? Leaving him bodyless? Did he creat create a planet body for himself instictively due to being removed from his planet as Foetus before he could Emerge?
** Alsp Also Knowwhere is not a planet but a colonised celestial skull. Comics Knull os responsible using the Necrosword (I think). Maybe Knowwhere skulls is what left of the celestial of another planet after their Eternals tried to prevent that emergence.


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** i guessed Tiamut as a foetus is not solid but rarher intangible. But becomes solid/tangible during emergence. It is possible due to Tiamut emerging to the point Sersi was standing on their hand. Maybe putting Tiamut to sleep would be an option as most of the physical body is tangible and solid. Therefore not able to safelty fit in the Earths core.
** Rhat or Ikaris lasering Druig injured him to the point that he can't focus his psychic powers. Hence why he knocked out Sprite with a rock rather than his powers (its mentioned by Gilgamesh that he had Druig use his powers to look after Thena whilst Gilgamesh went on holiday)


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** It possible that Phastos didnt live in the US all this time. If he had its possible he moved around a lot over the centuries. Id take a guess he met his Husband Ben in Lebanon, but due to West Asian countries having discriminatiom against homosexuals. Ben likely chose to immigrate to the US where he believed itd be easier for Homosexual Black passing alien and West Asian man to get married and havea life together. Hell tbey may have immigrated to the US after Gay Marriage became legal.


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** While many of the powersets and the Eternals having a major case of AdaptationWimp doesn't make sense. It would be a crazy revelation if Arishem has the the dead Eternals return with more of their comics power set. Indicating that he purposefully made them weak. Ajak comics wise is at least a FlyingBrick and nicknamed the lord of flight. Whilst Gilgamesh is typically TheBigGuy of the team. He but can also fly, use enhanced senses/telepathy to see (when he was temporarily blind) among other powers. Now imagine the remaining Eternals being forced to fightba resurrected Ikaris, Ajak and Gilgemesh when attemoting to rescue Kingo, Phastos and Sersi.


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** Another note, if Ego the Living Planet is a Celestial. Why was he just a brain with no body, why did he create a living planet as his body? Did the Eternals of his planet find a way to remove him from the core before his birth? Leaving him a bodyless foetus? Did he create a planet body for himself instictively due to being removed from his planet as Foetus before he could Emerge?
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** Makws one wonder if Thanos is revealed to be one of the 10 Eternals sent to Titan. Why did Arishem make him large ans purple? Comic wise Thanos has deviant syndrome from A'Laes and Sui-San trying for a naturally born baby (comic retconnes this as being typically impossible for the Eternals to reproduce with each other). Though Eros clearly came out fine.

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** Makws one wonder if Thanos is revealed to be one of the 10 Eternals sent to Titan. Why did Arishem make him large ans purple? Comic wise Thanos has deviant syndrome from A'Laes and Sui-San trying for a naturally born baby (comic retconnes this as being typically impossible for the Eternals to reproduce with each other). Though Eros clearly clearly came out fine.

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** Makws one wonder if Thanos is revealed to be one of the 10 Eternals sent to Titan. Why did Arishem make him large ans purple? Comic wise Thanos has deviant syndrome from A'Laes and Sui-San trying for a naturally born baby (comic retconnes this as being typically impossible for the Eternals to reproduce with each other). Though Eros clearly came out fine.


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** I think the Kree and Skrull worlds have had Deviants and Eternals comics wise. It possible that maybe their original planet got destroyed but many had colonised or expanded to other planets.
** Another note, if Ego the Living Planet is a Celestial. Why was he just a brain with no body, why did he create a living planet as his body? Did the Eternals of his planet find a was to remove him from the core before his birth? Leaving him bodyless? Did he creat a planet body for himself instictively due to being removed from his planet before he could Emerge?
** Alsp Knowwhere is not a planet but a colonised celestial skull. Comics Knull os responsible using the Necrosword (I think). Maybe Knowwhere skulls is what left of the celestial of another planet after their Eternals tried to prevent that emergence.

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*** I assumed that the Royal Family of Titan are likely the 10 Eternals sent to Titan which would include Eros, A'Lars and Sui-San. Thanos was most likely adopted (probablty abandoned for his appearance). If MCU Thanos is revealed to be an Eternal later diwn the linr he either has Deviant syndrome much like the comics or Arishem made him that way the same way he made Sprite a forever Child.

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*** I assumed that the Royal Family of Titan are likely the 10 Eternals sent to Titan which would include Eros, A'Lars and Sui-San. Thanos was most likely adopted (probablty abandoned for his appearance). If MCU Thanos is revealed to be an Eternal later diwn down the linr line he either has Deviant syndrome much like the comics or Arishem made him that way the same way he made Sprite a forever Child.Child. Though Thanos never shown having the golden cosmic power or glowing eyes/energy lines the other have when using powers.


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*** I assumed that the Royal Family of Titan are likely the 10 Eternals sent to Titan which would include Eros, A'Lars and Sui-San. Thanos was most likely adopted (probablty abandoned for his appearance). If MCU Thanos is revealed to be an Eternal later down the line he either has Deviant syndrome much like the comics or Arishem made him that way the same way he made Sprite a forever Child. Though Thanos never shown having the golden cosmic power or glowing eyes/energy lines the other have when using powers.
*** The other possibility is Thanos is the biologically disfigured child of A'Lars and Sui-San but was given up. Eros' family adopted him out of pity but they were probably all Eternals and not truly relatives or Eros' created his own royal dynasty and pulled a MyGrandfatherMyself (much like Kingo) over the centuries with each Prince Eros being thought to be the son of the previous King Eros.
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*** I assumed that the Royal Family of Titan are likely the 10 Eternals sent to Titan which would include Eros, A'Lars and Sui-San. Thanos was most likely adopted (probablty abandoned for his appearance). If MCU Thanos is revealed to be an Eternal later diwn the linr he either has Deviant syndrome much like the comics or Arishem made him that way the same way he made Sprite a forever Child.
*** The other possibility is Thanos is the biologically disfigured child of A'Lars and Sui-San but was given up. Eros' family adopted him out of pity but they were probably all Eternals and not truly relatives or Eros' created his own royal dynasty and pulled a MyGrandfatherMyself (much like Kingo) over the centuries with each Prince Eros being thought to be the son of the previous King Eros.
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** But it's not "human" physiology, it's how hearing works for everything. Not only animals but machines as well. And it still doesn't explain that being "deaf" rendering her immune to the shockwaves of a sonic boom. If it's not deafness that does it (since again, she's not really deaf), then all the Eternals should be immune as well.
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** The movie doesn't actually say that Phastos was involved in helping the US create nuclear weapons, just that he helped humans evolve technologically and that this eventually led to the creation of nuclear weapons.

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* The Eternals are understandably horrified at the destruction of Tenochtitlan by the Spaniards, to the point they call it "genocide". However, at this point in history, there had been numerous wars that could be considered "genocidal". The Mongol invasions, for instance, are estimated to have killed up to 30 million people across East and Central Asia. Why was this the point where the Eternals finally express such horror and disgust at humanity? Additionally, Phastos draws the line at the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, but by that point, millions of civilians had already been killed around the world in Asia and Europe. Why is this where he concludes Humanity is bad? It seems the Eternals are somewhat selective about when to, and to not be horrified at humanity.

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* The Eternals are understandably horrified at the destruction of Tenochtitlan by the Spaniards, to the point they call it "genocide". However, at this point in history, there had been numerous wars that could be considered "genocidal". The Mongol invasions, for instance, are estimated to have killed up to 30 million people across East and Central Asia. Why was this the point where the Eternals finally express such horror and disgust at humanity? Additionally, Phastos draws the line at the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, but by that point, millions of civilians had already been killed around the world in Asia and Europe. with conventional weaponry. Why is this the time where he concludes Humanity "Humanity is bad? bad"? It seems the Eternals are somewhat selective about when to, and to not be horrified at humanity.


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** Rules of human physiology do not apply to Eternals. Given how they come from proverbial "assembly line" shown to Sersi, deafness might be engineered as well. Makkari does this stuff without issues thanks to her "programming" ala supernatural powers.
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** Presumably they did and thought them dinosaurs or other extinct animals. There's plenty of extinct animals of which only partial remains have ever been found.
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** The Eternals aren't on Earth just to kill the Deviants. They are also there to help the population grow. Phastos powers help with that by inventing things like the plow, which helps the humans with producing food. His powers also have some use in combat, as seen by him restaring Ikaris during the climax. Druig can make sure that the humans don't attack the Eternals or get in the way while they are fighting Deviants. Ajak's healing powers are to make sure none of the other Eternals die.

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** The Eternals aren't on Earth just to kill the Deviants. They are also there to help the population grow. Phastos powers help with that by inventing things like the plow, which helps the humans with producing food. His powers also have some use in combat, as seen by him restaring restraining Ikaris during the climax. Druig can make sure that the humans don't attack the Eternals or get in the way while they are fighting Deviants. Ajak's healing powers are to make sure none of the other Eternals die.
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* The movie shows that Deviant corpses remain after death, and they are stated to be organic, which means they must have some sort of skeletal structure. So how have humans never found and uncovered any Deviant bones/fossils?
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* Come on, are we really to believe that, with all the world at his disposal and no ties of loyalty to any nation, a black man would have chosen to live in the country that enslaved black people? And try to give more advanced technology to them? Come on, we are talking of the USA in the forties, Phastos couldn't even sit on the front side of a bus back then, and we are to believe he would be both willing and capable to suggest them how to wield nuclear energy?

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* Come on, are we really to believe that, with all the world at his disposal and no ties of loyalty to any nation, a black man Eternal would have chosen to live in the country that enslaved black people? And try to give more advanced technology to them? Come on, we are talking of the USA in the forties, Phastos couldn't even sit on the front side of a bus back then, and we are to believe he would be both willing and capable to suggest them how to wield nuclear energy?
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* Come on, are we really to believe that, with all the world at his disposal and no ties of loyalty to any nation, a black would have chosen to live in the country that enslaved black people? And try to give more advanced technology to them? Come on, we are talking of the USA in the forties, Phastos couldn't even sit on the front side of a bus back then, and we are to believe he would be both willing and capable to suggest them how to wield nuclear energy?

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* Come on, are we really to believe that, with all the world at his disposal and no ties of loyalty to any nation, a black man would have chosen to live in the country that enslaved black people? And try to give more advanced technology to them? Come on, we are talking of the USA in the forties, Phastos couldn't even sit on the front side of a bus back then, and we are to believe he would be both willing and capable to suggest them how to wield nuclear energy?
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* First, how does being deaf render one immune to a sonic boom? Sonic booms aren't just a loud noise, they're also a powerful shockwave. At the speeds she reaches, such shockwaves could destroy buildings. Second, Makkari can "sense even the tiniest of vibrations, which lets her even understand what people are saying when she's not looking at them". Then how is she deaf? Sensing and interpreting vibrations is how hearing works!
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** The point is correct, but in Hiroshima's case, Phastos is specifically upset about the atom bomb because it' s a terrifying and unprecedented manifestation of the power of technology and science, which is something he feels responsible for. As for the genocide in Tenochtitlan, it does not have to be the first one Druig witnessed, just that particular straw that breaks the camel's back, which makes also sense when you consider that their main mission is basically done at that point.

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** The point is correct, but in Hiroshima's case, Phastos is specifically upset about the atom bomb because it' s a terrifying and unprecedented manifestation of the power weaponization of technology and science, science on an unprecedented scale, which is something he feels responsible for. As for the genocide in Tenochtitlan, it does not have to be the first one Druig witnessed, just that particular straw that breaks the camel's back, which makes also sense when you consider that their main mission is basically done at that point.

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