History Headscratchers / DragonballGT

*** Where are getting this "Baby created Myuu 50 years ago" thing from? It's more likely that he created him after the Black-star [=DBs=] were scattered.

** Except that he wasn't even close to "dead from that huge energy ball". The characters just assumed he had been vaporized, as there was a massive hole in the ground with no Goku on sight. But as we later see, he had just been pushed into the ground by the attack, so he simply emerged and formed the Genki Dama. We also see him lying on the floor after throwing this one, but there was no proof he was dead at that point either. As for the rest, GT went with an open ending, so we can only guess what truly happened, but the implication was that Goku was gone from the mortal realm. There's also the fact that he vanished ''right after'' the 4-star Dragon Ball merged with him, which may symbolize that he died (the number 4 is attributed with death in Japan).

* What was the point of Goku stripping himself before diving into Tsunama's cave if he brought his clothes with himself tied up to his head, ensuring that they still get wet?

* Another Vegeta Jr. related question, exactly how skilled is the kid? I mean we see he knows the flying technique and can go Super Saiyan, but does he know any energy manipulating techniques?

*** I am pretty sure the alternate timeline theory has been put to rest thanks to the existence of Time rings that indicate alternate timelines in [[Anime/DragonBallSuper]].

** Toriyama's skill in drawing different characters (or lack thereof). Go check how many characters look alike in the Dragon Quest franchise, it'll make your head spin.

* Why do Chi Chi and Videl look alike? They could pass off as sisters.

** For the same reason Uub has tan skin. He spent time training him in his home land, which was a tropical island.

* Why do some characters look alike? It makes sense for Gohan and Goten, but Chi Chi and Videl look like sisters.

* Why do some characters look alike? It makes sense for Gohan and Goten, but Chi Chi and Videl look like sisters. If you are watching GT for the first time, it looks like gohan married a cousin.

* Why do some characters look alike? It makes sense for Gohan and Goten, but Chi Chi and Videl look like twin sisters. If you are watching GT for the first time, it looks like gohan married his own cousin (or sister).

* So, why are Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. named that way anyways? Jr. is only used in a name when a child has the same name as a parent, and if the child gives one of their children the same name, the grandson of (insert name here) Sr. becomes (insert name here) the Third.

*** Settle down, child. It isn't being a biased hypocrite to point out that it's a massive plot flaw. Also, nice No True Scotsman fallacy. On top of that, Gohan hadn't exhausted his energy against Cell. Gohan was hurt because Cell blasted his arm so he couldn't fire a full-powered Kamehameha. It's also well-established in canon at this point that Goku's spirit helped him fire the Kamehameha, thus the Father-Son Kamehameha. So unless you have an actual example which isn't a weak "no u," No True Scotsman fallacy and a false equivalent to boot, it's still a stupid plothole which is classic Dragonball GT.

** Not entirely if the Black Star Dragon Balls were on Earth than possibly but they aren't they're scattered across the universe who knows where and who knows who might find them in that time. As for deactivating them no guardian ever has deactivated the DB before. Guru didn't deactivate the namekian Dragon Balls despite Frieza being after them. There's nothing in any of the DB shows or movies that says or even supports their creator can deactivate them since it's never happened before. So Piccolo dying was the only way to ensure their end it wasn't a stupid sacrifice.
*** You're ignoring the fact that the Black Star Dragon Balls are completely scattered across the universe making any attempts to collect it without any knowledge of them or a radar virtually impossible( the fact that Baby, The luud cult, and Parapara brother knew about them is just a plot hole since it's never explained how they knew). There's also no reason given why they couldn't just destroy the Black Star Dragonballs if they felt he were too dangerous to exist like what Zamasu did with the Super dragon balls.So this whole BS ball being used by evil again is pretty unlike if not virtually impossible so there was really no point of him dying to prevent it. All things consider it was a completely pointless sacrifice done for the sake of drama.

* And why couldn't Goku turn [=SSJ4=] and escape hell with instant transmission?Seems like all of Piccolo's sacrifices were completely unnecessary and was simply done for pointless drama.

* Why did they even try to used the earth dragon balls to revive Krillin anyway? He already been revived by them once. So they can't do it again! It wouldn't had worked even if the earth Dragon balls had not been over used.
** Also how the hell was Shenron able to bring Krillin back to life?! The earth Dragon ball can't revive a person more than once. This was a major plot point in DBZ.

** Actually, when Dende was brought over to be the new guardian, they changed the rules for the balls when he recreated them so that they were more like Prunga's set. One of the things they did was remove the limit on how many times people can be revived, which is why the likes of Yamcha, Tien and even Krillin are still alive once everything is said and done at the end of the Buu saga and the start of GT.
*** There so much wrong with what you just said that I almost don't even know where to start.First off when Dende change the earth dragon balls he kept that rule intact to save energy that's why Goku couldn't brought back after he died in the cell game. Second, Yamcha, and Tien were never revived using the earths Dragon Balls. They were revived with Porunga's set in the Frieza Saga (did you even watch DBZ or even TFS parody because even they got this right).So Yamcha and Tien can both STILL can be revived with earth ones . Third, the Z-figthers use Porunga's set to revive everyone at end of the Buu saga, not the Earth ones. They only used the Earth Dragon Balls to revive everyone Majin Vegeta killed, and to erase everyone's memory of Majin Buu. So yeah Krilin and 17 shouldn't have been brought back to life with Earth Dragon Balls.
* Actually you're wrong, if you watch DBZ, Dende says he fixed the earths Dragon Balls to two wishes and can make the same wish more than once. The only reason Goku didn't come back was because he denied their wish to bring him back he said the earth was better off with him dead go rewards that episode again.

** The original Android 17 didn't have the ability to absorb energy - 19, 20, and Cell had it, but 16, 17, and 18 didn't. It would make sense that Goku wouldn't guess that Super 17 would have a power than the original did not.

** Anyone who says GT logic should just be ignored they're clearly biased this exact same scenario happened in Cell, Gohan was weak and helpless Goku urges him and Gohan all of sudden has power again. Goku was battered to the point that he had one arm against King Piccolo and he still found the power for that last attack once he had an opening. Stop being a biased hypocrite.

*** So why couldn't any of the Z-fighters or even Cell detect them? This not some fan theory, this was a major plot point in the Cell saga. Cell couldn't sense Android 17 and 18 ki which gave him a hard finding them. The only reason why Cell was able to find the two was because he was sensing Piccolo's ki and just assumed he was fighting 17 and 18. Also if their ki was detectable, then why did Cell need to check island by island order to flush them out, if he could have just followed their ki signature?

** And what's your point ?

** Dragon ball is notorious for poor handling of characters who aren't Goku, and its GT.

** Maybe, maybe not since Piccole and Dende where able to do it and they are not perfectly identical.Frankly GT can't even keep their exposition straight.
** First off, Piccolo fused with Nail, not Dende. And second, that was using an ancient namekian fusion technique, not just synchronizing because they're identical.

** That explanation doesn't fly for a number of reasons. while it's true In the movies Wrath of the Dragon, Battle of Gods, and the Budokai games, the form is treated like a transformation, as Gohan accesses the form by powering up. there is NO massive energies requirement! old kai simple said power up like for the Super Saiyan transformation which clearly mean it doesn't require anymore energy that Super saiyan and he can still did that in GT. Also yes it's true that the reason why gohan [=SSJ4=] was weaken in the Buu saga was because of his lack of training. HOWEVER that only because SSJ amplify base form so weak base form = weak transformation. mystic is different it allow gohan to directly tap into his full potential regardless base form.

** No in the Buu saga they WERE able to bring back everyone to life with Porunga. the elder said he remodel him remember?So yeah that's no excuse.
** The Shadow Dragons were created by the selfish wishes made by our heroes over the years, specifically they are supposed to go 100 Years between uses to allow the evil energy to vanish. Porunga is either supposed to be on a 300 year cycle (because three wishes), a 50 cycle (because apparently years on Old Namek are 6 months long and it's never explained if New Namek changed that detail)or possibly some odd combination it's not like Dragon Balls exactly make sense. Porunga is however clearly Shenron's superior so I have a very good reason why our heroes might not want to overload Porunga.

*** Old Kai saw no reason to bring it up? you mean beside preventing the destruction earth dragonballs, the release of the evil dragons which cause a great deal of damage to the earth and it's people and had powers that made Majin Buu look like a chump which took everything z fighters had to stop them. as well as covering the earth in negative energy. you mean the old kai didn't see the prevention of all this chaos and destruction as reason enough to tell them? Also you mean to tell me that the namekians race as a whole all had literally no idea, no ancient literature or prophecy explaining this,not one words of advice passed down from the ancient elders giving them all a heads up. They had not one clue of the negative effects of their own magic they have invented? Wow, That's a lot to believe.

*** I too am amazed by how dumb some people are. GT was only officially declared non-canon recently upon the release of Battle of the Gods back in 2013.Stop acting like it was never mention to be canon from the start. Since if that really was the case they would have established that sooner like when series was ongoing or when it was first release and not over a decade after it already ended.

*** And if that was the case, how did Kami bring the dragonballs back to the lookout if they were scattered all over the universe after each wish?

** If guru could make dragonballs without planets having to go boom when they grant wishes, and the knowledge was passed on to Kami when he was in Namek, how did he end up creating Dragonballs with such bizarre properties.

** Speaking of Rildo, if he's stronger than Buu, then how do you reconcile that with what happened in Z. I mean are the Kais not even remotely worried about the fate of the universe?

*** SSJ3 Gotenks would have been their best shot particularly after both Vegeta and Goku are completely defeated. He would have lasted at least a minute or two, if only as Omega's punching bag, buying them enough time to put a plan together. For fans that hate Gotenks and his antics it would have been satisfying to watch Omega beat the stuffing out of him. A better explanation is that the animators didn't want to animate another character that late in the saga.

*** The first transformation into [=SSJ4=] not destroying the Earth despite being a more powerful form than SSJ3 has one possible explanation: Goku was a kid when he used it; maybe if he went into [=SSJ4=] as an adult, ''that'' would be what would destroy the planet. After all, Gotenks going [=SSJ3=] didn't have the same effect as Goku going [=SSJ3=] did, so maybe age determines how powerful the impact of the transformation is.

*** The first transformation into SSJ4 not destroying the Earth despite being a more powerful form than SSJ3 has one possible explanation: Goku was a kid when he used it; maybe if he went into SSJ4 as an adult, ''that'' would be what would destroy the planet. After all, Gotenks going SSJ3 didn't have the same effect as Goku going SSJ3 did, so maybe age determines how powerful the impact of the transformation is.