History Headscratchers / DragonBallZ

* What ''did'' the penguin say to the astronaut? For the love of Kiao, someone tell me!

*** That's not accurate. Kami is the japanese word for god. Even though nobody ever uses it Kami probably had a name. Just like Piccolo wasn't aslo a demon he had taken the title of basically the Devil. At this point Dende is God of Earth and his title would be Kami. It's just by that point everybody is on a first name basis. It's possible that at one point all planets had kami's just like each quadrant as Kai.

**** Another point on this; Goku explained numerous times that he, Vegeta, and the rest of the fighters were getting up there in age. He felt that the world would still get attacked by threats. The impression I got is that part of it was to train somebody to protect the world for the day where he and his friends wouldn't be around to do it anymore.

** He had other priorities like finding first form Cell, and finding out what he was up too. Then he was nearly killed by Cell. Then there was preventing Cell from absorbing 17 and 18, etc. He didn't think about creating new Dragon Balls until Goku mentioned his intention to revive all those killed by Cell back to life. He also wasn't Pure good like Kami was so it was unlikely he even could make them. That is why Goku eventually went to New Nameck.

** This was explained later: the Saiyans weren't indigenous to Planet Plant (the Tuffle homeplanet), they arrived in a rocket and shared the planet with the Tuffles for several years in an on-off war with the Saiyans kept in check by the Tuffles' advanced technology. The Tuffles were slaughtered and Planet Plant was renamed after the King at the time, Vegeta. Then the Saiyans started to explore a bit more where they met a race that got them into the planet trade and shortly after that, the whole race was annexed by Frieza & his father's army completely. So to answer your questions in order: according to the timeline, ten years passed between the arrival of the Saiyans and the Tuffle extinction, so they had only seen the transformed state twice at the most and were unprepared for the onslaught, and the Saiyans were always trying to kill the Tuffles but were repelled by Tuffle tech until they transformed and had their powers increased.

*** This has been said elsewhere as well but the villains keeping their bodies in hell is anime-only filler. In the manga it's made clear that only the righteous get to keep their bodies and all the villains stay as spirits (looking like puff clouds) for the exact reason of preventing them from training and starting a riot in hell.

** Wasn't worth the trouble is probably the official reason. Buu was rediculously strong and there is no reason to believe he wouldn't have destroyed the world from the other side had Enma not trapped him the body of a young boy. Unfortunately it's filler but the Ginyu Force, Frieza, King Cold and Cell are all shown as keeping their bodies in hell. Frieza and Cell even get to fight Goku in GT (I know, I know) in the anime Zarbon is the strongest warrior to actually be clensed. Everybody above that says screw that noise and keep their bodies. But none of them were strong enough of crazy enough to try to destoy reality itself. Honestly given what we learn about Other World during the Buu Saga there's not much reason to think that killing Buu would have done more than slow him down for a tick.

** If we took Bardock, Broly, Cooler, Goku, Paragus, Tarble, and Turles into account, it's safe to say that not all saiyans were wiped out barring the 8 known survivors. Vegeta may have said that the saiyans were small in number, but there is no doubt that there is a large number of them; this may take a while, so get comfortable and really think about this. Turles was a rogue Saiyan who defected before Frieza blew up Planet Vegeta, and there is a pretty decent chance that he wasn't the only defector; on top of that, Frieza apparently couldn't track him down, maybe because he modified or tweaked his scouter in some manner to avoid detection. Scouters are essentially miniature computers; Nappa and Vegeta's scouters alerted them of Raditz's death. If Turles had his scouter at the time Frieza blew up, his scouter should have reported to him that a large number of Saiyans were wiped out (since it tells them who died), letting him know that someone really powerful must have destroyed them all (if there were no saiyans around, Frieza was the only person who could blow up planets then, so that shouldn't be hard to figure out). And not just that: you can also listen in on other scouters to hear conversations (which is how Nappa, Vegeta, and Frieza had found out about the Dragon Balls). If Turles had overheard Frieza (if he had a scouter on then or Dodoria and Zarbon who suggested and oversaw the saiyan genocide always wore one), he may have heard of the genocide and decided to hide out; this may also be the case with any other rogue saiyan out there. Now Paragus and Broly survived by pure luck on Broly's part, but they never wore scouters following Planet Vegeta's destruction. Without scouters, Frieza couldn't track down either of them, and they were probably too far to be tracked if they had some on anyways (trans-galaxy tracking is impossible with scouters). Plus, they were presumed dead before the planet burst happened anyways, so to Frieza there would be no reason to look for them. This is most likely the case of other saiyans presumed dead, but turned out NotQuiteDead. And Frieza's not like his cop-dog brother Cooler; he won't bother going through with extensive body checks/searches to make sure none of the saiyans their supposed death. Now Tarble was exiled because of his low power level; if King Vegeta would even exile royalty over power levels, who's to say that he hasn't done this before? Granted Tarble had a scouter, but he was most likely too far and too weak to be reached or to be considered a threat to Frieza. Looking at a flashback of King Vegeta's exposition of power among saiyans, we see space pods coincidentally leaving. Those were probably other exiles for all we know. Bardock was also presumed dead and lost his scouter in the process, making him untrackable. Nobody noticed his space pod coming into the atmosphere either, probably meaning that space pods aren't tracked like scouters. When word of his survival got Frieza and his henchmen, they didn't expect it at all. Lastly, Goku was sent to earth to conquer it, and when Cooler noticed his pod flying by, he just sat back and chillaxed like nobody's business. He doesn't consider the saiyans to be his problem, even though he knew that collectively they were a threat. There may have been other babies sent to other planets to conquer them when Goku was sent to earth. Knowing Cooler, he most likely didn't do anything about it if he noticed them. There are too many possibilities to go by the assumption that only 8 saiyans have survived Frieza's genocide. Apparently Akira Toriyama DidntThinkThisThrough well enough.

*** If we took Bardock, Broly, Cooler, Goku, Paragus, Tarble, and Turles into account, it's safe to say that not all saiyans were wiped out barring the 8 known survivors. Vegeta may have said that the saiyans were small in number, but there is no doubt that there is a large number of them; this may take a while, so get comfortable and really think about this. Turles was a rogue Saiyan who defected before Frieza blew up Planet Vegeta, and there is a pretty decent chance that he wasn't the only defector; on top of that, Frieza apparently couldn't track him down, maybe because he modified or tweaked his scouter in some manner to avoid detection. Scouters are essentially miniature computers; Nappa and Vegeta's scouters alerted them of Raditz's death. If Turles had his scouter at the time Frieza blew up, his scouter should have reported to him that a large number of Saiyans were wiped out (since it tells them who died), letting him know that someone really powerful must have destroyed them all (if there were no saiyans around, Frieza was the only person who could blow up planets then, so that shouldn't be hard to figure out). And not just that: you can also listen in on other scouters to hear conversations (which is how Nappa, Vegeta, and Frieza had found out about the Dragon Balls). If Turles had overheard Frieza (if he had a scouter on then or Dodoria and Zarbon who suggested and oversaw the saiyan genocide always wore one), he may have heard of the genocide and decided to hide out; this may also be the case with any other rogue saiyan out there. Now Paragus and Broly survived by pure luck on Broly's part, but they never wore scouters following Planet Vegeta's destruction. Without scouters, Frieza couldn't track down either of them, and they were probably too far to be tracked if they had some on anyways (trans-galaxy tracking is impossible with scouters). Plus, they were presumed dead before the planet burst happened anyways, so to Frieza there would be no reason to look for them. This is most likely the case of other saiyans presumed dead, but turned out NotQuiteDead. And Frieza's not like his cop-dog brother Cooler; he won't bother going through with extensive body checks/searches to make sure none of the saiyans their supposed death. Now Tarble was exiled because of his low power level; if King Vegeta would even exile royalty over power levels, who's to say that he hasn't done this before? Granted Tarble had a scouter, but he was most likely too far and too weak to be reached or to be considered a threat to Frieza. Looking at a flashback of King Vegeta's exposition of power among saiyans, we see space pods coincidentally leaving. Those were probably other exiles for all we know. Bardock was also presumed dead and lost his scouter in the process, making him untrackable. Nobody noticed his space pod coming into the atmosphere either, probably meaning that space pods aren't tracked like scouters. When word of his survival got Frieza and his henchmen, they didn't expect it at all. Lastly, Goku was sent to earth to conquer it, and when Cooler noticed his pod flying by, he just sat back and chillaxed like nobody's business. He doesn't consider the saiyans to be his problem, even though he knew that collectively they were a threat. There may have been other babies sent to other planets to conquer them when Goku was sent to earth. Knowing Cooler, he most likely didn't do anything about it if he noticed them. There are too many possibilities to go by the assumption that only 8 saiyans have survived Frieza's genocide. Apparently Akira Toriyama DidntThinkThisThrough well enough.