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*** Reapers don't appear for just any sort of temporal infringement or random paradox or fixed point; as evidenced by this episode, the universe can easily accommodate if someone tries to botch a fixed point, hence why it is a fixed point. In Father's Day, Rose blatantly created several paradoxes and essentially did a Riverdance on her own personal timeline; in other words, she screwed up so badly that the only possible way the universe could fix it, short of overriding the free will of humanity, was send in the reapers to wipe the slate clean.
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** Let's not forget that in real life, we triangulate using only Earth-based points ALL THE TIME.
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*** It also made me think of the fairies in ''Series/{{Torchwood}}''. Considering that they can apparently choose to become invisible to security cameras, it at least sets a president that there are ways to trick sensors. In this case projecting the image of what the user wants.

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*** It also made me think of the fairies in ''Series/{{Torchwood}}''. Considering that they can apparently choose to become invisible to security cameras, it at least sets a president precedent that there are ways to trick sensors. In this case projecting the image of what the user wants.



* First the Dalek ignores a young Adelaide, despite there MO being the destruction of all of reality itself at that time. That alone is bad, as they were shown actively killing people who disobeyed them in ''The Stolen Earth'', so why would it spare that one child?

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* First the Dalek ignores a young Adelaide, despite there their MO being the destruction of all of reality itself at that time. That alone is bad, as they were shown actively killing people who disobeyed them in ''The Stolen Earth'', so why would it spare that one child?
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** My ex girlfriend made me watch ''Film/TheCraft'' about 20 times when I was a teenager. I watch ''TheMentalist'' regularly and never noticed that they share a main lead until it was pointed out to me. Pretty much that.

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** My ex girlfriend made me watch ''Film/TheCraft'' about 20 times when I was a teenager. I watch ''TheMentalist'' ''Series/TheMentalist'' regularly and never noticed that they share a main lead until it was pointed out to me. Pretty much that.
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(Yes, the person who moved me does realize that "2008-10 specials" is technically the more "correct" term)

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*** 10's entire speech about regeneration meaning that one Doctor dies and a new one walks away gets a lot of flak from the fans for [[CharacterDerailment going against all of the established continuity about the different faces being the same person.]] My attempt at a Sonic MindScrewdriver, considering the fact that he wanted to permanently drown in [[Recap/DoctorWho2006CSTheRunawayBride "Runaway Bride"]] but not regenerate in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E12TheStolenEarth "The Stolen Earth"]] or [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime "The End of Time"]], is as follows: he feels that he's getting too genocidally violent ([[Recap/DoctorWhoS12E4GenesisOfTheDaleks Four didn't wipe out the Daleks]], Eight wiped out the Time Lords), he doesn't want to feel that his "better" lives ([[Recap/DoctorWho2007CiNSTimeCrash like Five]]) are guilty of what he's done more recently, [[ThatManIsDead tries to lie to himself that they're different, better people from the Oncoming Storm]], and is worried that 11-13 will be even worse. Plus, regeneration probably heals psychological damage alongside the physical, as somebody further down the list points out.
** In a way, though, he is a different person walking away, to an extent. He has a completely different personality and mindset- and, of course, appearance. He is still the same, though, in that he has his previous self's memories. He can understand what his previous self was thinking and feeling, but now he is looking at such events through slightly different lenses. Typically, though, the Doctors all hold pretty much the same values and morality, and certain likes/dislikes seem to be universal. In this sense, you can think of the Doctors as different people, but these over-arcing similarities make them all the same person.



**** Tongue, meet cheek. I wasn't being entirely serious there. Although considering that the OP is asking why Eleven isn't feeling 'remorse' (suggesting guilt rather than simply sorrow)...

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**** Tongue, meet cheek. I wasn't being entirely serious there. Although considering that the OP is asking why Eleven isn't feeling 'remorse' (suggesting guilt rather than simply sorrow)...sorrow) suggests that the OP, at least, views the situation as closer to murder than anything else.


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*** 10's entire speech about regeneration meaning that one Doctor dies and a new one walks away gets a lot of flak from the fans for [[CharacterDerailment going against all of the established continuity about the different faces being the same person.]] My attempt at a Sonic MindScrewdriver, considering the fact that he wanted to permanently drown in [[Recap/DoctorWho2006CSTheRunawayBride "Runaway Bride"]] but not regenerate in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E12TheStolenEarth "The Stolen Earth"]] or [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime "The End of Time"]], is as follows: he feels that he's getting too genocidally violent ([[Recap/DoctorWhoS12E4GenesisOfTheDaleks Four didn't wipe out the Daleks]], Eight wiped out the Time Lords), he doesn't want to feel that his "better" lives ([[Recap/DoctorWho2007CiNSTimeCrash like Five]]) are guilty of what he's done more recently, [[ThatManIsDead tries to lie to himself that they're different, better people from the Oncoming Storm]], and is worried that 11-13 will be even worse. Plus, regeneration probably heals psychological damage alongside the physical, as somebody further down the list points out.
** In a way, though, he is a different person walking away, to an extent. He has a completely different personality and mindset- and, of course, appearance. He is still the same, though, in that he has his previous self's memories. He can understand what his previous self was thinking and feeling, but now he is looking at such events through slightly different lenses. Typically, though, the Doctors all hold pretty much the same values and morality, and certain likes/dislikes seem to be universal. In this sense, you can think of the Doctors as different people, but these over-arcing similarities make them all the same person.
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** Plus the fact that he was standing in the dark. Besides, do ''you'' remember every drunk you spoke to on New Years Day?

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** Plus the fact that he was standing in the dark. Besides, do ''you'' remember every drunk you spoke to on New Years Eve / New Years Day?
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**** [[ModernFamily You paint with words.]]

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**** [[ModernFamily [[Series/ModernFamily You paint with words.]]
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** My ex girlfriend made me watch ''TheCraft'' about 20 times when I was a teenager. I watch ''TheMentalist'' regularly and never noticed that they share a main lead until it was pointed out to me. Pretty much that.

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** My ex girlfriend made me watch ''TheCraft'' ''Film/TheCraft'' about 20 times when I was a teenager. I watch ''TheMentalist'' regularly and never noticed that they share a main lead until it was pointed out to me. Pretty much that.
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** Interesting point. However, in Apollo and the Space Shuttle, electricity is produced in fuel cells by combining hydrogen and oxygen. A by-product of this is water, which the astronauts then consume. So it's likely the ship produces its own water.
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* Given what is written in the HeartwarmingMoments and TearJerker pages, does anyone really believe the Master did a HeelFaceTurn or RedemptionEqualsDeath? The Master is a CompleteMonster and always has been. The Doctor only thought otherwise because of his loneliness.

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* Given what is written in the HeartwarmingMoments and TearJerker pages, does anyone really believe the Master did a HeelFaceTurn or RedemptionEqualsDeath? The Master is a CompleteMonster monster and always has been. The Doctor only thought otherwise because of his loneliness.
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**Yeah, the Doctor doesn't really reference the Time Lords themselves, it's more him missing the planet, and a sense of loneliness, and one or two good souls he knew there... but as for the rest of those stuffy bureaucrats? Yeah, wiping them out was a public service. If you were to run into a Time Lord, don't run up and hug it and ask it for sage wisdom; statistically, that Time Lord is a psychopath (Monk, Master, Rani, Omega, etc.). And the rest don't really leave Gallifrey at all. The exceptions are Susan and Romana, and whatever happened to them is ambiguous.

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***Be careful about taking those ages there at face value; the Doctor is notorious for lying about his age; 3rd Doctor claims he's at least 1000, 4th says 700, then later says 600, and so on and so forth. Half the time, he probably just discounts the years he didn't like.


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Referring to Ten's hour-long farewell. It got rather tiresome near the end. Ponder this: New Doctors get hour-long specials to say goodbye, while the sixth Doctor hit his head on the TARDIS console and was gone in five seconds. Hmm. Someone's gotta feel slighted.
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**In a way, though, he is a different person walking away, to an extent. He has a completely different personality and mindset- and, of course, appearance. He is still the same, though, in that he has his previous self's memories. He can understand what his previous self was thinking and feeling, but now he is looking at such events through slightly different lenses. Typically, though, the Doctors all hold pretty much the same values and morality, and certain likes/dislikes seem to be universal. In this sense, you can think of the Doctors as different people, but these over-arcing similarities make them all the same person.

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**First of all, Adelaide's death was a fixed point in time because it inspires her granddaughter to become an astronaut, who then meets some alien prince, falls in love, and ends up creating some new golden age and a whole new race or something really big. Sort of like helping Gavrilo Princip with his homework when he was a schoolboy. It may not seem like it's a big deal, but it may put him off the course of his life that would cause him to become a member of the Serbian 'Black Hand,' assassinate Archduke Franz Ferdinand, and BAM World War I. Helping kid with homework: small, seemingly insignificant. World War I? BIG. Saving Captain Adelaide Brooks? Smallish. Whole new race and golden age and stuff? That's BIG.
Secondly, the Doctor does seem to sort of snap, and there seem to be two explanations: a. This is what happens when he doesn't have a companion to stop him, and b. The universe has been his playground too long, and it's time for him to regenerate.
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* When the base team members were frantically running around gathering supplies for the rocket, why does nobody mention WATER? They worry about starving if they don't manage to gather enough food, but dying of thirst is much faster than starving, and the "protein packs" or whatever the food is sounds pretty dehydrated. Nobody says anything about trying to pump the uncorrupted water into tanks, or even mentions it at all. I assume for RuleOfDrama, but it seems like a pretty conspicuous absence considering the overall theme of the episode.
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** In the radio drama "The Paradise of Death", Three survives a long fall by "bone relaxation". It was still an insanely stupid thing to do: if Ten had misjudged his jump even slightly, the Master and the Lord President would have wondered briefly what that strange splat on the roof was and then gone back to chewing the scenery.

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** In the radio drama "The Paradise of Death", "Radio/TheParadiseOfDeath", Three survives a long fall by "bone relaxation". It was still an insanely stupid thing to do: if Ten had misjudged his jump even slightly, the Master and the Lord President would have wondered briefly what that strange splat on the roof was and then gone back to chewing the scenery.
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** The Master, let's be honest here, has been a major beneficiary of the DracoInLeatherPants effect, particularly since he regenerated into his John Simm form. While the scene in question is clearly played out as the Master doing a good thing for sort-of-good-or-at-least-not-entirely-bad reasons, it's not entirely surprising would take a slightly more rosy-eyed view of his actions than was perhaps warranted.

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** The Master, let's be honest here, has been a major beneficiary of the DracoInLeatherPants effect, particularly since he regenerated into his John Simm form. While the scene in question is clearly played out as the Master doing a good thing for sort-of-good-or-at-least-not-entirely-bad reasons, it's not entirely surprising some would take a slightly more rosy-eyed view of his actions than was perhaps warranted.
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** The Master, let's be honest here, has been a major beneficiary of the DracoInLeatherPants effect, particularly since he regenerated into his John Simm form. While the scene in question is clearly played out as the Master doing a good thing for sort-of-good-or-at-least-not-entirely-bad reasons, it's not entirely surprising would take a slightly more rosy-eyed view of his actions than was perhaps warranted.
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** Based on the Master that emerges in Series 8, while he/she is still a complete whackjob the new master clearly wants to do some repairing to her friendship/relationship with the Doctor. So I take it that's as good a turn as can be expected from the Master
*** However if the Master/Rasillon fight ended with the Master regenerating, Rasillon is either really mad still or maybe he's regenerated too, which may be even scarier than when his face was that of one that played James Bond and Heathcliff.
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* Given what is written in the HeartwarmingMoments and TearJerker pages, does anyone really believe the Master did a HeelFaceTurn? The Master is a CompleteMonster and always has been. The Doctor only thought otherwise because of his loneliness.

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* Given what is written in the HeartwarmingMoments and TearJerker pages, does anyone really believe the Master did a HeelFaceTurn? HeelFaceTurn or RedemptionEqualsDeath? The Master is a CompleteMonster and always has been. The Doctor only thought otherwise because of his loneliness.
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* Given what is written in the HeartwarmingMoments and TearJerker pages, does anyone really believe the Master did a HealFaceTurn? The Master is a CompleteMonster and always has been. The Doctor only thought otherwise because of his loneliness.

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* Given what is written in the HeartwarmingMoments and TearJerker pages, does anyone really believe the Master did a HealFaceTurn? HeelFaceTurn? The Master is a CompleteMonster and always has been. The Doctor only thought otherwise because of his loneliness.
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* Given what is written in the HeartwarmingMoments and TearJerker pages, does anyone really believe the Master did a HealFaceTurn? The Master is a CompleteMonster and always has been. The Doctor only thought otherwise because of his loneliness.
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* It was established in "Partners in Crime" that the Adipose we see on-screen are babies; we still don't know what adult Adipose look like. So that Adipose in the bar when Ten goes to see Jack...so do the Adipose still look like babies even when they're fully grown, or does that planet allow BABIES to come to a tavern to drink?
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** On top of that, it probably had something to do with the fact he was being pulled into the time lock at the time, as he appears to be physically struggling to fire it while its previous uses were pretty much a simple flick of the wrist.
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** Question: Do you think that the Doctor's 'Time Lord Victorious' moment was unavoidable? I mean, I understand that he's a very bad thing, but do you think it was going to happen at this right for Ten? He has been through a lot of crap, namely Journey's End, that's been pushing him to do this. Seriously, have you SEEN how badly screwed he has gotten in that episode? So can people kinda understand where Ten is coming from here?

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** Question: Do you think that the Doctor's 'Time Lord Victorious' moment was unavoidable? I mean, I understand that he's it's a very bad thing, but do you think it was going to happen at this right eventually for Ten? He has been through a lot of crap, namely Journey's End, that's been pushing him to do this. Seriously, have you SEEN how badly screwed he has gotten in that episode? So can people kinda understand where Ten is coming from here?
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\n**Question: Do you think that the Doctor's 'Time Lord Victorious' moment was unavoidable? I mean, I understand that he's a very bad thing, but do you think it was going to happen at this right for Ten? He has been through a lot of crap, namely Journey's End, that's been pushing him to do this. Seriously, have you SEEN how badly screwed he has gotten in that episode? So can people kinda understand where Ten is coming from here?
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**Maybe he did. Nicholas Courtney, Elizabeth Sladen and Caroline John have died due to cancer. The Brigadier is confirmed to have died in-universe in 2011. So maybe it was due to the nuclear radiation absorbed by the Tenth Doctor in the End of Time. It also leads to the possibility that Sarah Jane Smith and Liz Shaw died in-universe for the same reason.
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** She fell in love with that guy based on how he was in The Year That Never Was. It's fairly safe to say, such a relationship failed. Don't downplay how important "traveled with The Doctor" is. Very few could understand them. Also, perhaps most importantly... [[TitleDrop Smith and Jones]].
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** Here's my best understanding of how ''Doctor Who'' TemporalMutability works. TheButterflyEffect is not nearly as much the case as scientists believe in the real world. Time (to the extent that it's correct to personify it) cares deeply that fixed events happen, and it ''doesn't'' care as much about the logic of their happening, even when one fixed event leads to another. So if "Adelaide's death inspires granddaughter Susie" is a fixed event, then by God it's going to happen, even if the logic of it seems strange. (Continued in next bullet)

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** Here's my best understanding of how ''Doctor Who'' TemporalMutability works. TheButterflyEffect Film/TheButterflyEffect is not nearly as much the case as scientists believe in the real world. Time (to the extent that it's correct to personify it) cares deeply that fixed events happen, and it ''doesn't'' care as much about the logic of their happening, even when one fixed event leads to another. So if "Adelaide's death inspires granddaughter Susie" is a fixed event, then by God it's going to happen, even if the logic of it seems strange. (Continued in next bullet)

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