History Headscratchers / DisneyFairies

28th Mar '16 9:49:06 PM Mau-Kun
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* If spring-animal fairies wake the animals up and winter-animal fairies by logic take them to sleep, then what do summer and autumn fairies do with them?
18th Dec '15 11:33:20 PM whisperstar13
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** Alright, I'll accept that, but I still don't agree about Zarina. Because what she did would've uprooted the fairies' lifestyle by ridding the Pixie Dust Tree of its dust if she'd carried her plan through to its conclusion. (Or allowed the pirates to do it.) And she ''doesn't care''. Tink and her friends ask her to come home with them, and she just turns her back on them! She turns her back on them, lets the pirates lock them up, and doesn't change her mind until she's been deserted by the pirates and has nowhere else to go. I understand that it's important to do what suits you best, even if others might not accept you for it, but you still shouldn't be willing to uproot them from their present lifestyle just because they don't accept certain things about you. That's not right, not at all.
18th Dec '15 11:31:30 PM whisperstar13
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*** It is implied in the sequel that Tink's somewhat undergone character development since the events of the first movie...though, the ''Disney Fairies'' films ''do'' seem to take place ''before'' the first movie, as well, so...

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*** It is implied in the sequel that Tink's somewhat undergone character development since the events of the first movie...movie, still doing things here and there to torment Jane but never going as far as killing her, and even allowing a grown-up Wendy a brief lift into the air...though, the ''Disney Fairies'' films ''do'' seem to take place ''before'' the first movie, as well, so...
18th Dec '15 11:30:06 PM whisperstar13
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*** It is implied in the sequel that Tink's somewhat undergone character development since the events of the first movie...though, the ''Disney Fairies'' films ''do'' seem to take place ''before'' the first movie, as well, so...
16th Dec '15 11:51:15 AM Autumn
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** While we’re on this topic, what about Tinker Bell in the original ''Disney/PeterPan''? Schemes to have Wendy ''murdered'' in a fit of jealousy, is furious when her plan is foiled, and gleefully admits what she attempted without a hint of remorse. And Tink has been a major Disney icon well before they softened her up for these movies. Perhaps fairies in Never Land are just EasilyForgiven.

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** While we’re on this topic, what about Tinker Bell in the original ''Disney/PeterPan''? Schemes to have Wendy ''murdered'' in a fit of jealousy, is furious when her plan is foiled, and gleefully admits what she attempted without a hint of remorse. Later she is tricked by Captain Hook into revealing Peter Pan's hiding place. And Tink has been a major Disney icon even well before they softened her up for these movies. Perhaps fairies in Never Land are just EasilyForgiven.
16th Dec '15 6:18:52 AM Autumn
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** While we’re on this topic, what about Tinker Bell in the original ''Disney/PeterPan''? Schemes to have Wendy ''murdered'' in a fit of jealousy, is furious when her plan is foiled, and gleefully admits what she attempted without a hint of remorse. And Tink has been a major Disney icon well before they softened her up for these movies. Perhaps fairies in Never Land are just EasilyForgiven.
14th Dec '15 9:18:50 PM whisperstar13
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** Alright, I'll accept that, but I still don't agree about Zarina. Because what she did would've uprooted the fairies' lifestyle by ridding the Pixie Dust Tree of its dust if she'd carried her plan through to its conclusion. (Or allowed the pirates to do it.) And she ''doesn't care''. Tink and her friends ask her to come home with them, and she just turns her back on them! I understand that it's important to do what suits you best, even if others might not accept you for it, but you still shouldn't be willing to uproot them from their present lifestyle just because they don't accept certain things about you. That's not right, not at all.

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** Alright, I'll accept that, but I still don't agree about Zarina. Because what she did would've uprooted the fairies' lifestyle by ridding the Pixie Dust Tree of its dust if she'd carried her plan through to its conclusion. (Or allowed the pirates to do it.) And she ''doesn't care''. Tink and her friends ask her to come home with them, and she just turns her back on them! She turns her back on them, lets the pirates lock them up, and doesn't change her mind until she's been deserted by the pirates and has nowhere else to go. I understand that it's important to do what suits you best, even if others might not accept you for it, but you still shouldn't be willing to uproot them from their present lifestyle just because they don't accept certain things about you. That's not right, not at all.
14th Dec '15 9:18:01 PM whisperstar13
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** Alright, I'll accept that, but I still don't agree about Zarina. Because what she did would've uprooted the fairies' lifestyle by ridding the Pixie Dust Tree of its dust if she'd carried her plan through to its conclusion. (Or allowed the pirates to do it.) And she ''doesn't care''. Tink and her friends ask her to come home with them, and she just turns her back on them! I understand that it's important to do what suits you best, even if others might not accept you for it, but you still shouldn't be willing to uproot them from their present lifestyle just because they don't accept certain things about you. That's not right, not at all.
2nd Dec '15 6:24:25 PM Autumn
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** I personally don’t see anything wrong with themes that encourage kids to think outside the proverbial box and explore their creativity. History is filled with examples of people who came up with great inventions and changed unjust laws by challenging the status quo.In Zarina’s case, fixing her mistake earned her ''forgiveness''. When she was rewarded at the end, it was because the other fairies had come to appreciate her talent. This paralleled what happened with Tinker Bell in earlier movies. Her inventions, which were initially frowned upon, actually helped improve Pixie Hollow. Since Zarina has only appeared in ''Pirate Fairy'', the potential contributions she’ll make with Pixie Dust Alchemy were mostly just hinted at, although they have been explored in fanfics. As you pointed out, Zarina is an interesting case since, unlike these other examples, her “mistake” was a serious crime with malicious intent. This does bring up several thought-provoking questions, which any concerned parents ought to discuss with their kids: Even though Zarina eventually saw the error of her ways, apologized, and fixed her mistake, was that enough? Should she still have been punished? If so, in what way? How do you think the story would have gone if the pirates hadn’t betrayed her? In real world terms, do you think repentant criminals should be given second chances and rewarded for their achievements? How might Zarina have better handled the situation when she was fired as a dust-keeper instead of running away and joining a “bad crowd?” This is just a sampling of what could be discussed. It shows why it is important that parents not just passively watch movies with their kids, but talk about them afterwards.

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** I personally don’t see anything wrong with themes that encourage kids to think outside the proverbial box and explore their creativity. History is filled with examples of people who came up with great inventions and changed unjust laws by challenging the status quo.In Zarina’s case, fixing her mistake earned her ''forgiveness''. When she was rewarded at the end, it was because the other fairies had come to appreciate her talent. This paralleled what happened with Tinker Bell in earlier movies. Her inventions, which were initially frowned upon, actually helped improve Pixie Hollow. Since Zarina has only appeared in ''Pirate Fairy'', the potential contributions she’ll make with Pixie Dust Alchemy were mostly just hinted at, although they have been explored in fanfics. As you pointed out, Zarina is an interesting case since, unlike these other examples, her “mistake” was a serious crime with malicious intent. This does bring up several thought-provoking questions, which any concerned parents ought to discuss with their kids: Even though Zarina eventually saw the error of her ways, apologized, and fixed her mistake, was that enough? Should she still have been punished? If so, in what way? How do you think the story would have gone turned out if the pirates hadn’t betrayed her? In real world terms, do you think repentant criminals should be given second chances and rewarded for their achievements? How might Zarina have better handled the situation when she was fired as a dust-keeper instead of running away and joining a “bad crowd?” This is just a sampling of what could be discussed. It shows why it is important that parents not just passively watch movies with their kids, but talk about them afterwards.
2nd Dec '15 6:15:03 AM Autumn
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** I personally don’t see anything wrong with themes that encourage kids to think outside the proverbial box and explore their creativity. History is filled with examples of people who came up with great inventions and changed unjust laws by challenging the status quo.In Zarina’s case, fixing her mistake earned her ''forgiveness''. When she was rewarded at the end, it was because the other fairies had come to appreciate her talent. This paralleled what happened with Tinker Bell in earlier movies. Her inventions, which were initially frowned upon, actually helped improve Pixie Hollow. Since Zarina has only appeared in ''Pirate Fairy'', the potential contributions she’ll make with Pixie Dust Alchemy were mostly just hinted at, although they have been explored in fanfics. As you pointed out, Zarina is an interesting case since, unlike these other examples, her “mistake” was a serious crime with malicious intent. This does bring up several thought-provoking questions, which any concerned parents ought to discuss with their kids: Even though Zarina eventually saw the error of her ways, apologized, and fixed her mistake, was that enough? Should she still have been punished? If so, in what way? How do you think the story have gone if the pirates hadn’t betrayed her? In real world terms, do you think repentant criminals should be given second chances and rewarded for their achievements? How might Zarina have better handled the situation when she was fired as a dust-keeper instead of running away and joining a “bad crowd?” This is just a sampling of what could be discussed. It shows why it is important that parents not just passively watch movies with their kids, but talk about them afterwards.

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** I personally don’t see anything wrong with themes that encourage kids to think outside the proverbial box and explore their creativity. History is filled with examples of people who came up with great inventions and changed unjust laws by challenging the status quo.In Zarina’s case, fixing her mistake earned her ''forgiveness''. When she was rewarded at the end, it was because the other fairies had come to appreciate her talent. This paralleled what happened with Tinker Bell in earlier movies. Her inventions, which were initially frowned upon, actually helped improve Pixie Hollow. Since Zarina has only appeared in ''Pirate Fairy'', the potential contributions she’ll make with Pixie Dust Alchemy were mostly just hinted at, although they have been explored in fanfics. As you pointed out, Zarina is an interesting case since, unlike these other examples, her “mistake” was a serious crime with malicious intent. This does bring up several thought-provoking questions, which any concerned parents ought to discuss with their kids: Even though Zarina eventually saw the error of her ways, apologized, and fixed her mistake, was that enough? Should she still have been punished? If so, in what way? How do you think the story would have gone if the pirates hadn’t betrayed her? In real world terms, do you think repentant criminals should be given second chances and rewarded for their achievements? How might Zarina have better handled the situation when she was fired as a dust-keeper instead of running away and joining a “bad crowd?” This is just a sampling of what could be discussed. It shows why it is important that parents not just passively watch movies with their kids, but talk about them afterwards.
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