History Headscratchers / Dishonored

20th Aug '17 8:50:09 AM ActualScientist
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[[folder: Knife of Dunwall Whale Eye as a kill?]]

* After playing Knife of Dunwall on High Chaos, a loaded a new game and did the first mission, killing no-one except for the whale to get the Rune so I can get Blink Mk 2. I get to the mission complete screen... and the game tells me I killed someone. Can anyone confirm that the whale is a casualty, so I can go back and not kill it?
** I've gotten zero kills on that mission while killing the whale. The whale does not count as a kill. An unconscious enemy probably took a bad fall or got eaten by rats.
** Nuts, and I finally managed to save Lurk at the end without pissing off the Overseers. Whelp, thanks for the help.
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30th Jul '17 1:38:42 PM Hekateras
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** Besides that, the reason for the poison might simply be that Havelock and Co. are cowards, and slipping someone poison and waiting until they collapse to approach them takes less guts than approaching a sleeping assassin who has so far performed superhuman feats of stealth and combat, drawing a pistol on him and firing at close range. Consider also that Havelock eventually poisons his own partners in crime, has a history of a dishonourable discharge from the Navy, and depending on the Chaos level, either offers you the key to Emily's room only to try and stab you when you reach out to grab it, or threatens ''a child'' (who is also the current monarch) to try and get what he wants. You get the picture of a man who's always the first to take the dirty way out.


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** It's hardly "all the way" to the Flooded District. If you check the map (e.g. here: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/dishonoredvideogame/images/0/0d/Dunwall.png/revision/latest?cb=20130529131522 ), it's the closest district to the Hound Pits Pub that doesn't have City Watch presence, which is supported by the fact that the pub is the first place you emerge when you finally make it out of there. So it would actually be the only nearby place where he could take Corvo without being missed for too long or leaving him at risk of being discovered by the Watch.


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** Regarding ''how'' he poisoned you, the simplest explanation seems to be that his lack of opportunity was simply a plot hole and the celebration was originally meant to be a longer scene (which maybe they rewrote because they wanted a faster pacing). Maybe in actuality he was asked to poison you almost immediately before it happened, somewhere off to the side while Corvo was mingling with the other Loyalists and having various dialogues. This would mean he only found out about the poison as it happened and was put on the spot by the orders, and in that situation, yes, only slipping him half the dose was the only thing he could think of and probably the only option other than refusing and immediately being shot for defying orders. He coudln't warn Corvo in advance because he himself didn't know in advance. This would make sense to me, because can you really imagine a man like Samuel knowing all that time during the mission he was meant to kill Corvo afterward and not act like anything was wrong? Or, for that matter, can you imagine the Loyalists trusting him to keep that poker face? To summarise, here's the most likely scenario in my head: Corvo heads inside after the mission is over but Samuel stays in the boat like he always does instead of mingling. While Corvo is congratulated and distracted and talks to everyone, someone (e.g. Pendelton's manservant) fetches Sam from the boat and brings him to discreetly meet the three conspirators on the side, at which point they hover over him and instruct him to poison Corvo's drink. Havelock then brings Corvo the drink and calls for a toast. (More evidence: the poison is indeed supposed to mimic the effects of intoxication, then it's suspicious as hell if Corvo gets immediately drunk off his ''first'' drink, especially given the risk that he collapses while still with everyone else.) At this point of being poisoned, Corvo's already had a few, so that when he starts feeling woozy after the last drink, he chalks it up to the drink rather than getting suspicious, and just as they planned, he finally heads upstairs to get some rest where he collapses. The whole thing works much better if you assume Corvo and the others have been drinking a while before he's poisoned, giving the conspirators time to take Samuel aside and have him poison the drink.


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** Regarding bringing Corvo somewhere safer, it's possible he simply didn't have the time - if he's only supposed to hide the body in the basement or something until they need to present it, then it might be noticed and arouse suspicion if Sam goes missing from the premises for a lengthy period of time. The Flooded District is pretty close to the Loyalists' hideout, and due to how collapsed and flooded it is, it's a comparatively safe place if you're on a boat (Weepers don't swim, after all). If it hadn't been spotted by Weepers, Corvo's boat would have drifted until it just bumped into somewhere and stayed there until Corvo slept off the poison.
18th Jul '17 12:57:59 PM DoctorDetective
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** Corvo is definitely Emily's father. The sequel spells that out right away, and apparently Emily publicly acknowledges him as such once she's Empress. It was probably just considered dangerous for Corvo and Jessamine's relationship to be too public.
7th Jul '17 2:30:44 PM HankMorgan
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** Also, Overseer masks may not be gas masks that filter out the plague, and almost certainly don't have built-in spyglasses. Corvo doesn't just wear a mask to hide his face. (Plus, the mask was made before Corvo ever even got there - Piero was inspired to make it by an Outsider-influenced dream according to one file.)
2nd May '17 6:47:33 AM Koveras
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* None of the above, however, explains why the Marked are not alarmed at all when Corvo stops time while sneaking up on them. The fact that they can move while everything else around them stands still should immediately tip them off to the presence of another Marked in their immediate proximity. Granted, the Torturer is batshit crazy and may simply not pay attention to such things, but Daud ''must'' notice it and apparently just chooses to ignore the fact.


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15th Mar '17 10:14:52 AM Stretch5678
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**How would YOU respond to a guy invading your personal space, while wearing a creepy, skull-styled mask based on that worn by a wanted serial killer?


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**Overseers wear more than just the mask. Daud can actually wear an Overseer mask on one of his missions, if he pays for it, but wears it with the whole regalia, so even Overseers think he's one of them. I think Corvo doesn't wear the Overseer mask because he'd have to get the rest of the outfit. Even if he did find one, and assuming it fit him, it'd just lead to a security crackdown among the Overseer ranks once people started noticing the strange Overseer lurking around places where people die or disappear.
18th Feb '17 11:22:35 AM ZuTheSkunk
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[[folder:Using an Overseer's mask?]]
* Here's a question: if Corvo is wearing a mask to conceal his identity, then why not steal one of the masks worn by the Overseers (or whatever their name is)? Not only would it conceal his identity, but it would also let him walk around in broad daylight with impunity.
16th Feb '17 1:09:44 AM Clintville
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[[folder:Emily's illegitimacy]]
Shouldn't it be an issue that Emily was born out of wedlock? Hell, and that no one seems to know for sure who her father is?
16th Feb '17 1:03:37 AM Clintville
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Shouldn't it be an issue that Emily was born out of wedlock? Hell, and that no one seems to know for sure who her father is?

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Shouldn't it be an issue that Emily was born out of wedlock? Hell, and that no one seems to know for sure who her father is?is?
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16th Feb '17 1:02:56 AM Clintville
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[[folder:Emily's illegitimacy]]
Shouldn't it be an issue that Emily was born out of wedlock? Hell, and that no one seems to know for sure who her father is?
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