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** This is also the person who is sleeping with his youngest daughter. Dads tend not to like those people, especially when they make a public display of it.

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** This is also the person who is sleeping with his youngest daughter. Dads tend not to like those people, especially when they make a public display of it.it.

* Baby seems to have spent a lot of nights at Johnny's cabin? Why didn't her parents ever notice her absence?
** Her mother makes a remark on how she's signed herself up for so many activities. It's also another aspect of their intense trust of her - they don't even bother asking where she's been.
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* At the very end, when Johnny reappears, doesn't Jake behave a bit too hostile for someone who'd just realized that he'd wrongly accused a man of knocking up his partner?

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* At the very end, when Johnny reappears, doesn't Jake behave a bit too hostile for someone who'd just realized that he'd wrongly accused a man of knocking up his partner?partner?
** This is also the person who is sleeping with his youngest daughter. Dads tend not to like those people, especially when they make a public display of it.
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* At the very end, when Johnny reappears, doesn't Jake behave a bit too hostile for someone who'd just realized that he'd wrongly accused a man of knocking up his partner?
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** She was embarrassed because this was her introduction to Johnny, and she blurts out “I carried a watermelon” as her first impression. It’s not a very cool or mature thing to say, thus why she was embarrassed.
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* As a non-English person, what is the deal about the line, "I carried a watermelon"? Is this an euphemism for something that Baby realized too late which is why she got embarrassed?

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* As a non-English person, what is the deal about the line, "I carried a watermelon"? Is this an euphemism for something that Baby realized too late which is why Johnny dismissed her and she got embarrassed?
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* As a non-English person, what is the deal about the line, "I carried a watermelon"? Is this an euphemism for something that Baby realized too late which is why she got embarrassed?
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*** The later into pregnancy you get, the more dangerous abortion gets. Waiting is a bad idea. And adoption doesn't solve the issue of being pregnant - what she's supposed to do to pay her rent when she's 6 months pregnant?
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** Speaking of time constraints, it's never stated how far along Penny is, but there are only three weeks left in the season. She probably could have waited, had the abortion, and no one would have been the wiser (assuming she didn't die, that is). Or actually had the kid and given it up for adoption, although she may not have been ready to go back to work by the time the next season started.
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*** I always assumed that they searched his room when he was accused, thinking they might find the wallet.
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I completely forgot that Dr. Houseman actually asked point blank who was responsible for Penny.


* Did the filmmakers even need the abortion storyline in the first place? Couldn't they have just had Penny break a leg, have a ruptured appendix, or just suffer any other type of normal malady for Baby to fill in for her? Did they really have to be that drastic?
** None of those are grounds for ending a relationship. A pregnancy from an affair is.
*** Well, they could have had Dr. Houseman solely object on the grounds that Johnny is poor.
** It's a moral choice that the rich and sheltered Baby would normally never have ever had to be confronted with. The whole point of Baby's character arc is her moral choices, and her steadfast belief in doing the right thing no matter what the cost. Penny had no other choice, Baby recognized that, so she risked alienating her relationship with her father to help someone who had no other options. If it had been something as "simple" as a ruptured appendix, Baby's sacrifice of her time and money would not have been so profound. Also, the subplot is an illustration of another theme in the movie, which is class distinctions. Penny is poor, has little to no education, no familial ties, few friends in the world, a crappy job, believed Robbie loved her, etc. The awful thing about unintended pregnancies is that they disproportionately happen to women like Penny - women who have been dealt a bad hand in life. Compare her life to Baby's, and see why the plot required such a difficult situation and moral choice, and why a more simple illness would have lessened the impact of the plot.
** Don't forget that for a big portion of the movie, part of the drama between Johnny and Baby is because she thinks Penny is pregnant from Johnny and most of the time, Baby's dad thinks the same thing. Getting rid of the abortion detail in the movie would make a lot of the conflict disappear along with the ability for Baby's dad to apologize in the end with his line, "When I'm wrong, I say I'm wrong" or whatever it was. This way, they can spend most of the movie looking down their noses at Johnny and then realize he's a decent person despite his position in society.
*** Unfortunately, in my opinion, it just makes Baby's father seem dumb, stupid, and just in general, devoid of logic.
*** Why? Baby's father would have seen Johnny and Penny around the resort and most people, including Baby, assume they're dating just from watching them dance. Not to mention Johnny says that he's responsible for Penny; what he means is, he's the one who cares about her, like a brother, but Baby's dad meant "who's responsible for this woman's condition". He may have even believed that Johnny obligated Penny to get a back-alley abortion. To top it all off, this is the guy who's having sex with his underage daughter. Keeping in mind the film's classism theme, it makes sense he wouldn't like Johnny from the offset.
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** In addition, abortion was illegal in New York until 1970. Given that they had to have it done quickly and had no real way to travel because of time constraints, they couldn't try and go somewhere else.
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*** Why? Baby's father would have seen Johnny and Penny around the resort and most people, including Baby, assume they're dating just from watching them dance. Not to mention Johnny says that he's responsible for Penny; what he means is, he's the one who cares about her, like a brother, but Baby's dad meant "who's responsible for this woman's condition". He may have even believed that Johnny obligated Penny to get a back-alley abortion. To top it all off, this is the guy who's having sex with his underage daughter. Keeping in mind the film's classism theme, it makes sense he wouldn't like Johnny from the offset.
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** In response to the question, I think everyone (including Baby) thought the guy they hired was a real doctor. It isn't until after he leaves that Johnny and Baby find out from Penny and the other guy that the "doctor" had a dirty knife and a folding table.

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** In response to the question, I think everyone (including Baby) thought the guy they hired was a real doctor. It isn't until after he leaves that Johnny and Baby find out from Penny and the other guy Billy that the "doctor" had a dirty knife and a folding table.
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** If they had had been doing so at local resorts, they'd have the fingerprint locally and could have just compared them then. After that they could have established their identifies and found out there were warrants out in other states (by phoning the FBI, who used to hold information about multiple-jurisdiction crimes before III existed). It's been a while since I've seen the movie, but if they were fingerprinting glasses, they probably were given a lead, not just fingerprinting random glasses.
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* It's Sunday morning, Labour Day weekend no less, when Baby makes her big revelation, which makes it early Sunday afternoon when Johnny finds her and gives her the news. How did they get the water glasses fingerprinted, sent to the FBI (to find out the culprits are wanted in three states), and get the results back so quick? Remember, this takes place in 1963, so there were no fax machines or electronic scanning devices. And seniors' fingerprints are harder to detect.

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** Don't forget that for a big portion of the movie, part of the drama between Johnny and Baby is because she thinks Penny is pregnant from Johnny and most of the time, Baby's dad thinks the same thing. Getting rid of the abortion detail in the movie would make a lot of the conflict disappear along with the ability for Baby's dad to apologize in the end with his line, "When I'm wrong, I say I'm wrong" or whatever it was. This way, they can spend most of the movie looking down their noses at Johnny and then realize he's a decent person despite his position in society.

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** Don't forget that for a big portion of the movie, part of the drama between Johnny and Baby is because she thinks Penny is pregnant from Johnny and most of the time, Baby's dad thinks the same thing. Getting rid of the abortion detail in the movie would make a lot of the conflict disappear along with the ability for Baby's dad to apologize in the end with his line, "When I'm wrong, I say I'm wrong" or whatever it was. This way, they can spend most of the movie looking down their noses at Johnny and then realize he's a decent person despite his position in society. society.
*** Unfortunately, in my opinion, it just makes Baby's father seem dumb, stupid, and just in general, devoid of logic.
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** In response to the question, I think everyone (including Baby) thought the guy they hired was a real doctor. It isn't until after he leaves that Johnny and Baby find out from Penny and the other guy that the "doctor" had a dirty knife and a folding table.


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** Don't forget that for a big portion of the movie, part of the drama between Johnny and Baby is because she thinks Penny is pregnant from Johnny and most of the time, Baby's dad thinks the same thing. Getting rid of the abortion detail in the movie would make a lot of the conflict disappear along with the ability for Baby's dad to apologize in the end with his line, "When I'm wrong, I say I'm wrong" or whatever it was. This way, they can spend most of the movie looking down their noses at Johnny and then realize he's a decent person despite his position in society.
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** It's a moral choice that the rich and sheltered Baby would normally never have ever had to be confronted with. The whole point of Baby's character arc is her moral choices, and her steadfast belief in doing the right thing no matter what the cost. Penny had no other choice, Baby recognized that, so she risked alienating her relationship with her father to help someone who had no other options. If it had been something as "simple" as a ruptured appendix, Baby's sacrifice of her time and money would not have been so profound. Also, the subplot an illustration of another theme in the movie, which is class distinctions. Penny is poor, has little to no education, no familial ties, few friends in the world, a crappy job, believed Robbie loved her, etc. The awful thing about unintended pregnancies is that they disproportionately happen to women like Penny - women who have been dealt a bad hand in life. Compare her life to Baby's, and see why the plot required such a difficult situation and moral choice, and why a more simple illness would have lessened the impact of the plot.

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** It's a moral choice that the rich and sheltered Baby would normally never have ever had to be confronted with. The whole point of Baby's character arc is her moral choices, and her steadfast belief in doing the right thing no matter what the cost. Penny had no other choice, Baby recognized that, so she risked alienating her relationship with her father to help someone who had no other options. If it had been something as "simple" as a ruptured appendix, Baby's sacrifice of her time and money would not have been so profound. Also, the subplot is an illustration of another theme in the movie, which is class distinctions. Penny is poor, has little to no education, no familial ties, few friends in the world, a crappy job, believed Robbie loved her, etc. The awful thing about unintended pregnancies is that they disproportionately happen to women like Penny - women who have been dealt a bad hand in life. Compare her life to Baby's, and see why the plot required such a difficult situation and moral choice, and why a more simple illness would have lessened the impact of the plot.
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** It's a moral choice that the rich and sheltered Baby would normally never have ever had to be confronted with. The whole point of Baby's character arc is her moral choices, and her steadfast belief in doing the right thing no matter what the cost. Penny had no other choice, Baby recognized that, so she risked alienating her relationship with her father to help someone who had no other options. If it had been something as "simple" as a ruptured appendix, Baby's sacrifice of her time and money would not have been so profound. Also, the subplot an illustration of another theme in the movie, which is class distinctions. Penny is poor, has little to no education, no familial ties, few friends in the world, a crappy job, believed Robbie loved her, etc. The awful thing about unintended pregnancies is that they disproportionately happen to women like Penny - women who have been dealt a bad hand in life. Compare her life to Baby's, and see why the plot required such a difficult situation and moral choice, and why a more simple illness would have lessened the impact of the plot.
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*** Well, they could have had Dr. Houseman solely object on the grounds that Johnny is poor.
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** None of those are grounds for ending a relationship. A pregnancy from an affair is.
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* Did the filmmakers even need the abortion storyline in the first place? Couldn't they have just had Penny break a leg, have a ruptured appendix, of just suffer any other type of normal malady for Baby to fill in for her? Did they really have to be that drastic?

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* Did the filmmakers even need the abortion storyline in the first place? Couldn't they have just had Penny break a leg, have a ruptured appendix, of or just suffer any other type of normal malady for Baby to fill in for her? Did they really have to be that drastic?
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* Did the filmmakers even need the abortion storyline in the first place? Couldn't they have just had Penny break a leg, have a ruptured appendix, of just suffer any other type of normal malady for Baby to fill in for her? Did they really have to be that drastic?
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** In fact when Baby asks him for the money so she can give it to Penny he specifically asks her if the money is for anything illegal. Not to mention that living 30+ years after Roe v. Wade and seeing the attitudes that many people have toward LEGAL abortion I don't think it's reasonable to assume that Baby's father would have understood or been helpful (until Penny's life was in danger and he became bound by doctor/patient privilege).
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** Look at his reaction when he found out that was what Baby had used his money for--there's no way in hell he would've agreed to get involved if he'd known about the abortion thing from the beginning.

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**** I always thought it was because the managment would do periodic checks of the employees rooms looking for contraband.

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**** I always thought it was because the managment management would do periodic checks of the employees rooms looking for contraband.contraband.
**** I think both options (condescending attitude, room checks) make sense.
* Baby's father is a doctor. Why didn't she just refer Penny to him for either the abortion or someone who could do it properly? Admittedly, abortion was still illegal in many states at the time, but I find it highly unlikely that he wouldn't know someone who could take care of it.
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**** I always thought it was because the managment would do periodic checks of the employees rooms looking for contraband.

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