History Headscratchers / DiabloIII

31st May '16 12:05:09 AM Dravencour
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** There may be a far simpler explanation as to why Malthael acted as he did during Act V. Diablo was corrupting him from within the Black Soulstone. Malthael is merely an archangel, albeit the most powerful one in creation. But Diablo is the Prime Fucking Evil, the sum total of all Seven Evils in one being, and his power to corrupt has only grown. We know from Diablo II that Mephisto's soulstone was corrupted and resulted in what happened to the religion of Zakarum, and we know from Act IV of D3 that angels are anything but immune to corruption. It ''cannot'' be a coincidence that Malthael's plan for destroying humanity involved tuning the Black Soulstone to rip out the demonic essence of every human and absorb it into the stone. Where do you think all of that demonic essence ''went''? Straight to Diablo himself. Everything that happened in Act V was part of Diablo's plan to be freed from the Black Soulstone, and with more power than he has ever had before.

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** There may be a far simpler explanation as to why Malthael acted as he did during Act V. Diablo was corrupting him from within the Black Soulstone.Soulstone, in a manner quite similar to how Mephisto corrupted the Zakarum back in ''VideoGame/DiabloII''. Malthael is merely an archangel, albeit the most powerful one in creation. But Diablo is the Prime Fucking Evil, the sum total of all Seven Evils in one being, and his power to corrupt has only grown. We know from Diablo II that Mephisto's soulstone was corrupted and resulted in what happened to grown since becoming the religion of Zakarum, and we know from Act IV of D3 that angels are anything but immune Prime Evil, enough to corruption.affect even angels. It ''cannot'' be a coincidence that Malthael's plan for destroying humanity involved tuning the Black Soulstone to rip out the demonic essence of every human and absorb it into the stone. Where do you think all of that demonic essence ''went''? Straight to Diablo himself. Everything that happened in Act V was part of Diablo's plan to be freed from the Black Soulstone, and with more power than he has ever had before.
31st May '16 12:01:46 AM Dravencour
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** The thing Leah specifically disbelieves is the End of the World prophecy, which is reasonable; demons have been invading Sanctuary almost constantly for millennia, so why should this invasion be different?

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** The thing Leah specifically disbelieves is the End of the World prophecy, which is reasonable; demons have been invading Sanctuary almost constantly for millennia, so why should this ''this'' invasion be different?



** Reaper of Souls trailer shows that Tyrael has retrieved the Black Soulstone and sought to hide it.

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** The Reaper of Souls trailer shows that Tyrael has retrieved the Black Soulstone and sought to hide it.



** The why is fairly simple. It's a combination of fully releasing himself from the oath that prevents him from interceding directly on humanity's behalf, and just being sick and tired of the Angiris Council's inactivity as Sanctuary, and humanity with it, are slowly being destroyed by the forces of Hell. One can assume most of his actions prior can be explained either as loopholes, or just a premise of "easier to beg forgiveness than ask permission." Hell, it was a spat with Imperius that prompted the "Screw this and screw you" reaction of stipping himself of his angelic status.

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** The why is fairly simple. It's a combination of fully releasing himself from the oath that prevents him from interceding directly on humanity's behalf, and just being sick and tired of the Angiris Council's inactivity as Sanctuary, and humanity with it, are slowly being destroyed by the forces of Hell. One can assume most of his actions prior can be explained either as loopholes, or just a premise of "easier to beg forgiveness than ask permission." Hell, it was a spat with Imperius that prompted the "Screw this and screw you" reaction of stipping stripping himself of his angelic status.



** I think that although the cinematic implied that an angel stripped of its powers becomes a human, he instead used his angel powers transmute himself into a mortal that only looked like a human, for some reason stripping off his wings (which are the main part of an angel's body in Diablo) to do so.

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** I think that although the cinematic implied that an angel stripped of its powers becomes a human, he instead used his angel angelic powers to transmute himself into a mortal that only looked like a human, for some reason stripping off his wings (which are the main part of an angel's body in Diablo) to do so.









** There may be a far simpler explanation as to why Malthael acted as he did during Act V. Diablo was corrupting him from within the Black Soulstone. Malthael is merely an archangel, albeit the most powerful one in creation. But Diablo is the Prime Fucking Evil, the sum total of all Seven Evils in one being. We know from Diablo II that Mephisto's soulstone was corrupted and resulted in what happened to the religion of Zakarum, and we know from Act IV of D3 that angels are anything but immune to corruption. It ''cannot'' be a coincidence that Malthael's plan for destroying humanity involved tuning the Black Soulstone to rip out the demonic essence of every human and absorb it into the stone. Where do you think all of that demonic essence ''went''? Straight to Diablo himself. Everything that happened in Act V was part of Diablo's plan to be freed from the Black Soulstone, and with more power than he has ever had before.

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** There may be a far simpler explanation as to why Malthael acted as he did during Act V. Diablo was corrupting him from within the Black Soulstone. Malthael is merely an archangel, albeit the most powerful one in creation. But Diablo is the Prime Fucking Evil, the sum total of all Seven Evils in one being.being, and his power to corrupt has only grown. We know from Diablo II that Mephisto's soulstone was corrupted and resulted in what happened to the religion of Zakarum, and we know from Act IV of D3 that angels are anything but immune to corruption. It ''cannot'' be a coincidence that Malthael's plan for destroying humanity involved tuning the Black Soulstone to rip out the demonic essence of every human and absorb it into the stone. Where do you think all of that demonic essence ''went''? Straight to Diablo himself. Everything that happened in Act V was part of Diablo's plan to be freed from the Black Soulstone, and with more power than he has ever had before.
30th May '16 11:49:01 PM Dravencour
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** There may be a far simpler explanation as to why Malthael acted as he did during Act V. Diablo was corrupting him from within the Black Soulstone. Malthael is merely an archangel, albeit the most powerful one in creation. But Diablo is the Prime Fucking Evil, the sum total of all Seven Evils in one being. We know from Diablo II that Mephisto's soulstone was corrupted and resulted in what happened to the religion of Zakarum, and we know from Act IV of D3 that angels are anything but immune to corruption. It ''cannot'' be a coincidence that Malthael's plan for destroying humanity involved tuning the Black Soulstone to rip out the demonic essence of every human and absorb it into the stone. Where do you think all of that demonic essence ''went''? Straight to Diablo himself. Everything that happened in Act V was part of Diablo's plan to be freed from the Black Soulstone, and with more power than he ever had before.

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** There may be a far simpler explanation as to why Malthael acted as he did during Act V. Diablo was corrupting him from within the Black Soulstone. Malthael is merely an archangel, albeit the most powerful one in creation. But Diablo is the Prime Fucking Evil, the sum total of all Seven Evils in one being. We know from Diablo II that Mephisto's soulstone was corrupted and resulted in what happened to the religion of Zakarum, and we know from Act IV of D3 that angels are anything but immune to corruption. It ''cannot'' be a coincidence that Malthael's plan for destroying humanity involved tuning the Black Soulstone to rip out the demonic essence of every human and absorb it into the stone. Where do you think all of that demonic essence ''went''? Straight to Diablo himself. Everything that happened in Act V was part of Diablo's plan to be freed from the Black Soulstone, and with more power than he has ever had before.
30th May '16 11:45:51 PM Dravencour
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** There may be a far simpler explanation as to why Malthael acted as he did during Act V. Diablo was corrupting him from within the Black Soulstone. Malthael is merely an archangel, albeit the most powerful one in creation. But Diablo is the Prime Fucking Evil, the sum total of all Seven Evils in one being. We know from Diablo II that Mephisto's soulstone was corrupted and resulted in what happened to the religion of Zakarum, and we know from Act IV of D3 that angels are anything but immune to corruption. It ''cannot'' be a coincidence that Malthael's plan for destroying humanity involved tuning the Black Soulstone to rip out the demonic essence of every human and absorb it into the stone. Where do you think all of that demonic essence ''went''? Straight to Diablo himself. Everything that happened in Act V (aside from, you know, what happened to Adria) was part of Diablo's plan to be freed from the Black Soulstone, and with more power than he ever had before.

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** There may be a far simpler explanation as to why Malthael acted as he did during Act V. Diablo was corrupting him from within the Black Soulstone. Malthael is merely an archangel, albeit the most powerful one in creation. But Diablo is the Prime Fucking Evil, the sum total of all Seven Evils in one being. We know from Diablo II that Mephisto's soulstone was corrupted and resulted in what happened to the religion of Zakarum, and we know from Act IV of D3 that angels are anything but immune to corruption. It ''cannot'' be a coincidence that Malthael's plan for destroying humanity involved tuning the Black Soulstone to rip out the demonic essence of every human and absorb it into the stone. Where do you think all of that demonic essence ''went''? Straight to Diablo himself. Everything that happened in Act V (aside from, you know, what happened to Adria) was part of Diablo's plan to be freed from the Black Soulstone, and with more power than he ever had before.
30th May '16 11:44:58 PM Dravencour
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** There may be a far simpler explanation as to why Malthael acted as he did during Act V. Diablo was corrupting him from within the Black Soulstone. Malthael is merely an archangel, albeit the most powerful one in creation. But Diablo is the Prime Fucking Evil, the sum total of all Seven Evils in one being. We know from Diablo II that Mephisto's soulstone was corrupted and resulted in what happened to the religion of Zakarum, and we know from Act IV of D3 that angels are anything but immune to corruption. It ''cannot'' be a coincidence that Malthael's plan for destroying humanity involved tuning the Black Soulstone to rip out the demonic essence of every human and absorb it into the stone. Where do you think all of that demonic essence ''went''? Straight to Diablo himself. Everything that happened in Act V (aside from, you know, what happened to Adria) was part of Diablo's plan to be freed from the Black Soulstone, and with more power than he ever had before.
16th Aug '15 1:01:56 AM Zaptech
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** Pandemonium Fortress is explicitly said to alter itself to match the nature of whoever controls it, which means that simply by being in there, Malthael brought the soul prison that the Nephalem could draw upon into existence within the fortress. Unless he completely abandoned the fortress, there was nothing he could do about it.
16th Aug '15 12:58:48 AM Zaptech
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[[folder:So are the Angels and Demons here more like Abusive Precursors of humanity?]]
* Humanity were sired from them, after all, and when the Demons (Prime Evils, mostly) are just trying to toy around humanity for the sake of lulz and power, the Angels are all limiting as heck at best, and planning to wipe them all out at worst because they have demonic essence. So what's stopping them from being called an AbusivePrecursors? They kinda fit already! I won't be surprised that next game, thanks to the Nephalem's powers, humanity call bullshit on Angels and Demons reigning over them and break away from them, choosing other deities in existing the existing Pantheon to look up into or just... take care of themselves.
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[[folder:So are the Angels and Demons here more like Abusive Precursors of humanity?]]
* Humanity were sired from them, after all, and when the Demons (Prime Evils, mostly) are just trying to toy around humanity for the sake of lulz and power, the Angels are all limiting as heck at best, and planning to wipe them all out at worst because they have demonic essence. So what's stopping them from being called an AbusivePrecursors? They kinda fit already! I won't be surprised that next game, thanks to the Nephalem's powers, humanity call bullshit on Angels and Demons reigning over them and break away from them, choosing other deities in existing the existing Pantheon to look up into or just... take care of themselves.
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16th Aug '15 12:58:01 AM Zaptech
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** This is explained in a roundabout manner in Reaper of Souls. Angels can change their inherent nature and outward appearance. Malthael's angels changed when they changed their nature from Wisdom to Death. By accepting Death, they became the twisted forms of the Reapers, their appearances and bodies changing shape to reflect that altered state. So, when Tyrael chose to become a mortal, his body simply changed shape to match that state and to reflect what he'd chosen to become. There are obvious and clear physical changes, as he needs to eat and his mind changed so that he has to deal with his emotions like a mortal does.


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** The Angiris Council does not embody virtues. They embody pure aspects of Creation. Valor, Wisdom, Justice, Hope, and Fate are the big five pure aspects of creation, so an angel on the Council chooses to embody one of those aspects.
21st Jun '15 9:39:27 PM ChrisX
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[[folder:So are the Angels and Demons here more like AbusivePrecursor of humanity?]]
* Humanity were sired from them, after all, and when the Demons (Prime Evils, mostly) are just trying to toy around humanity for the sake of lulz and power, the Angels are all limiting as heck at best, and planning to wipe them all out at worst because they have demonic essence. So what's stopping them from being called an AbusivePrecursor? They kinda fit already! I won't be surprised that next game, thanks to the Nephalem's powers, humanity call bullshit on Angels and Demons reigning over them and break away from them, choosing other deities in existing the existing Pantheon to look up into or just... take care of themselves.

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[[folder:So are the Angels and Demons here more like AbusivePrecursor Abusive Precursors of humanity?]]
* Humanity were sired from them, after all, and when the Demons (Prime Evils, mostly) are just trying to toy around humanity for the sake of lulz and power, the Angels are all limiting as heck at best, and planning to wipe them all out at worst because they have demonic essence. So what's stopping them from being called an AbusivePrecursor? AbusivePrecursors? They kinda fit already! I won't be surprised that next game, thanks to the Nephalem's powers, humanity call bullshit on Angels and Demons reigning over them and break away from them, choosing other deities in existing the existing Pantheon to look up into or just... take care of themselves.
21st Jun '15 9:38:57 PM ChrisX
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[[folder:So are the Angels and Demons here more like AbusivePrecursor of humanity?]]
* Humanity were sired from them, after all, and when the Demons (Prime Evils, mostly) are just trying to toy around humanity for the sake of lulz and power, the Angels are all limiting as heck at best, and planning to wipe them all out at worst because they have demonic essence. So what's stopping them from being called an AbusivePrecursor? They kinda fit already! I won't be surprised that next game, thanks to the Nephalem's powers, humanity call bullshit on Angels and Demons reigning over them and break away from them, choosing other deities in existing the existing Pantheon to look up into or just... take care of themselves.
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