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** Malthael made his decision long before he got to the Black Soulstone. What drove him to his villainy is theorized by Lorath to be a combination of the psychological scars of the Eternal Conflict and seeing the sins of humanity causing his perception of the truth-giving waters in the chalice of his domain to reflect his own fears and pessimism. The bleakness of what it cause him to see convinced him that death was the only inescapable truth. This is why abandoned his position entirely to take on the aspect of Death and enact his plan to destroy all remaining demonic essence to end the Eternal Conflict for good.
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** Its not that Imperius could have taken him down, its that he was unwilling to fight his brother Malthael. Imperius would have likely ran into the same problem that Tyrael and the Nephalem had and been beaten. On the other hand Imperius would have likely sent Heaven's armies to besiege his stronghold. While Malthael is invulnerable his forces are not.
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** Its It's not that Imperius could have taken him down, its that he was unwilling to fight his brother Malthael. Imperius would have likely ran into the same problem that Tyrael and the Nephalem had and been beaten. On the other hand Imperius would have likely sent Heaven's armies to besiege his stronghold. While Malthael is invulnerable his forces are not.
** Imperius is the Archangel of Valor. Backing down from a fight out of fear is not in his nature. The problem is that he knows the enemy in front of him is his most respected brother and he can't bring himself to attack someone he cares about this much. It's not like the death of humanity (who he views as abominations against nature that should have never existed) would be enough to motivate him into overcoming this reluctance, like it is for Tyrael.
** Imperius is the Archangel of Valor. Backing down from a fight out of fear is not in his nature. The problem is that he knows the enemy in front of him is his most respected brother and he can't bring himself to attack someone he cares about this much. It's not like the death of humanity (who he views as abominations against nature that should have never existed) would be enough to motivate him into overcoming this reluctance, like it is for Tyrael.
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** Leah was fused in to the conglomerate of demonic souls that formed Prime Evil Diablo. If there is anything left of her at all, it has likely been fully consumed by her demonic father. If not, then she's probably stuck somewhere in the Hells as a damned soul as she is technically demonic herself.
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** "Shaman", while often used as a generic term, originally referred only to spiritual mediators from the Tungusic peoples of Siberia. "Witch Doctor" is more commonly used to refer to spiritual meditators from Africa, which were the inspiration for the Diablo 3 Witch Doctor.
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** There may be a far simpler explanation as to why Malthael acted as he did during Act V. Diablo was corrupting him from within the Black Soulstone, in a manner quite similar to how Mephisto corrupted the Zakarum back in ''VideoGame/DiabloII''. Malthael is merely an archangel, albeit the most powerful one in creation. But Diablo is the sum total of all Seven Evils in one being, and his power to corrupt has only grown since becoming the Prime Evil, enough to affect even angels. It ''cannot'' be a coincidence that Malthael's plan for destroying humanity involved tuning the Black Soulstone to rip out the demonic essence of every human and absorb it into the stone. Where do you think all of that demonic essence ''went''? Straight to Diablo himself. Everything that happened in Act V was part of Diablo's plan to be freed from the Black Soulstone, and with more power than he has ever had before.
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** There may be a far simpler explanation as to why Malthael acted as he did during Act V. Diablo was corrupting him from within the Black Soulstone, in a manner quite similar to how Mephisto corrupted the Zakarum back in ''VideoGame/DiabloII''. Malthael is merely an archangel, albeit the most powerful one in creation. But Diablo is the sum total of all Seven Evils in one being, and his power to corrupt has only grown since becoming the Prime Evil, enough to affect even and we know from Act IV that he's capable of corrupting angels. It ''cannot'' be a coincidence that Malthael's plan for destroying humanity involved tuning the Black Soulstone to rip out the demonic essence of every human and absorb it into the stone. Where do you think all of that demonic essence ''went''? Straight to Diablo himself. Everything that happened in Act V was part of Diablo's plan to be freed from the Black Soulstone, and with more power than he has ever had before.
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** It's cause people criticized the game for looking "too kiddy" despite the earliest gameplay footage showed a barbarian being split in half and the game is full of gore. Course, they probably decided why not when MyLittlePony became popular again.
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** It's cause people criticized the game for looking "too kiddy" despite the earliest gameplay footage showed a barbarian being split in half and the game is full of gore. Course, they probably decided why not when MyLittlePony Franchise/MyLittlePony became popular again.
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* I know this isn't that important but isn't "witch doctor" seen a derogatory term (or at least a slang term) these days? Why not call him a shaman instead?
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** In general, what happens to a person after they die in the Diablo universe is fairly unknown. We know their souls persist in some form, since your player character can meet a long-deceased loved one in Pandemonium Fortress. We also know it’s possible for souls to be forced into servitude maliciously, as Malthael does throughout Act V, but usually only at the moment of their deaths, which is why you see the Reapers harvesting and raising new minions so aggressively.
Leah is a special case, though. Unlike Diablo’s other hosts in the games, her body was not left behind when Diablo was killed; we see his body disintegrate, leaving the Black Soulstone behind. This may be partly due to her demonic heritage, but even that is a bit ambiguous - her father is Diablo by way of Prince Aidan, so it’s not clear if she was a human with special powers or a true half-demon or what. Given the unusual strength of her power and her unique heritage (Diablo isn’t one to stay dead forever, after all), it’s possible she’ll come back in some form in the future.
Leah is a special case, though. Unlike Diablo’s other hosts in the games, her body was not left behind when Diablo was killed; we see his body disintegrate, leaving the Black Soulstone behind. This may be partly due to her demonic heritage, but even that is a bit ambiguous - her father is Diablo by way of Prince Aidan, so it’s not clear if she was a human with special powers or a true half-demon or what. Given the unusual strength of her power and her unique heritage (Diablo isn’t one to stay dead forever, after all), it’s possible she’ll come back in some form in the future.
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aggressively. Leah is a special case, though. Unlike Diablo’s other hosts in the games, her body was not left behind when Diablo was killed; we see his body disintegrate, leaving the Black Soulstone behind. This may be partly due to her demonic heritage, but even that is a bit ambiguous - her father is Diablo by way of Prince Aidan, so it’s not clear if she was a human with special powers or a true half-demon or what. Given the unusual strength of her power and her unique heritage (Diablo isn’t one to stay dead forever, after all), it’s possible she’ll come back in some form in the future.
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** In general, what happens to a person after they die in the Diablo universe is fairly unknown. We know their souls persist in some form, since your player character can meet a long-deceased loved one in Pandemonium Fortress. We also know it’s possible for souls to be forced into servitude maliciously, as Malthael does throughout Act V, but usually only at the moment of their deaths, which is why you see the Reapers harvesting and raising new minions so aggressively.
Leah is a special case, though. Unlike Diablo’s other hosts in the games, her body was not left behind when Diablo was killed; we see his body disintegrate, leaving the Black Soulstone behind. This may be partly due to her demonic heritage, but even that is a bit ambiguous - her father is Diablo by way of Prince Aidan, so it’s not clear if she was a human with special powers or a true half-demon or what. Given the unusual strength of her power and her unique heritage (Diablo isn’t one to stay dead forever, after all), it’s possible she’ll come back in some form in the future.
Leah is a special case, though. Unlike Diablo’s other hosts in the games, her body was not left behind when Diablo was killed; we see his body disintegrate, leaving the Black Soulstone behind. This may be partly due to her demonic heritage, but even that is a bit ambiguous - her father is Diablo by way of Prince Aidan, so it’s not clear if she was a human with special powers or a true half-demon or what. Given the unusual strength of her power and her unique heritage (Diablo isn’t one to stay dead forever, after all), it’s possible she’ll come back in some form in the future.
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* So what exactly happened to Leah after Diablo died? Did she just [[CessationOfExistence cease to exist]]? Or did her soul leave and go to Heaven? Or something else?
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** Also, there's the possibility that by thrashing Diablo, we weakened him enough for his host to wrest back control and suppress the Evils...
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** Also, bear in mind the nature of the vote. It was a vote on sparing humanity, so a non-vote could be considered tantamount to agreeing/not being opposed to the plan.
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** "Malthael abstaining" was a simplification of what actually happened, probably to keep the story moving. The Angiris Council originally decided to destroy humanity upon learning of their existence, but reconvened when they became aware of humanity's potential for nobility and sacrifice. Malthael didn't cast a vote and Tyrael was expected to vote against humanity, which would have resulted in a tie and thus the carrying out of the council's initial plan.
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** The vote was to decide the fate of a world and race who were partly demonic in origin. Heaven and Hell have been locked in a war of annihilation for eternity, with their default policy being to destroy anything that is of demonic origin(with the exception of the World Stone). So while its unfair for Humanity it does make sense to count any vote that wasn't directly in support of making an exception as against.
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** Its not that Imperius could have taken him down, its that he was unwilling to fight his brother Malthael. Imperius would have likely ran into the same problem that Tyrael and the Nephalem had and been beaten. On the other hand Imperius would have likely sent Heaven's armies to besiege his stronghold. While Malthael is invulnerable his forces are not.
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* When Imperius tells you about stopping Malthael, he says that he has "not the heart to do this". What exactly could he have done against a being who at that point was much more powerful than Diablo (who had swatted Imperius aside like a fly only recently)?
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*** I'm guessing this HS was written ages ago (it's 2.6.0 as of this writing), but if you're still stumped by chance: Crank the difficulty up and do Rifts. A lot. If you want a light show of Legendaries, do a Greater Rift, since loot is withheld until the boss is killed, at which point it's guaranteed to explode into a cluster of legendaries.
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*** Deckard's words about her skepticism bear this out. He understands Leah's skepticism quite well, because unlike Cain himself, she has never seen anything like Diablo and his brothers.
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** When Adria pulled the Betrayal, the Seven Evils became one. And if Diablo is known for anything, it is patience.
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* Just how much of a KangarooCourt is the Angiris Council? The game constantly reiterates that humanity was one vote away from destruction, but the numbers just don't bear that out. Itherael, Auriel, and Tyrael all voted to spare humanity, but Imperius was the only member to actively vote in favor of extermination; Malthael chose to abstain instead. We're told that Malthael's vote (or lack thereof) was counted against humanity, but that make absolutely no sense; Malthael was still leader of the council, so Imperius shouldn't have had the authority to count Malthael's vote in his favor, leaving us with a three-to-one vote in favor of letting humanity live.
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* Just how much of a KangarooCourt is the Angiris Council? The game constantly reiterates that humanity was one vote away from destruction, but the numbers just don't bear that out. Itherael, Auriel, and Tyrael all voted to spare humanity, but Imperius was the only member to actively vote in favor of extermination; Malthael chose to abstain instead. We're told that Malthael's vote (or lack thereof) was counted against humanity, but that make absolutely no sense; Malthael was still leader of the council, so Imperius shouldn't have had the authority to count Malthael's vote in his favor, leaving us with a three-to-one vote in favor of letting humanity live.
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* During Acts II and III, much fuss is made about how the Black Soulstone is flawed and was never meant to hold so many demon lords for so long. Throughout Act III, the Great Evils are constantly straining to escape, held back only by Leah's magic. Yet between Acts IV and V, it's calmed down enough that the new Horadrim only need to guard it from external threats, and neither Tyrael nor Malthael seem worried that the demons will escape while it's under Malthael's control.
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** Also keep in mind that Leah was recently born when Baal was defeated. Leah grew up in a world that had calmed down, and even Tristram was safe to loot. It would be easy for her to think her elders were exaggerating the past. For the sake of gameplay, each Diablo game takes place in a crazy time in Sanctuary's history, but relatively normal generations have gone by in their history (and even in Diablo 1 the danger was just underneath Tristram and even the people living there were a bit skeptical of the full scope).
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** Seeing as how he's still huge and capable of doing BadAss things with his sword and stuff, it's possible that he isn't ''technically'' human, but some sort of [[BuffySpeak half-crippled human-like thingy.]]
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** Seeing as how he's still huge and capable of doing BadAss badass things with his sword and stuff, it's possible that he isn't ''technically'' human, but some sort of [[BuffySpeak half-crippled human-like thingy.]]
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** There may be a far simpler explanation as to why Malthael acted as he did during Act V. Diablo was corrupting him from within the Black Soulstone. Malthael is merely an archangel, albeit the most powerful one in creation. But Diablo is the Prime Fucking Evil, the sum total of all Seven Evils in one being, and his power to corrupt has only grown. We know from Diablo II that Mephisto's soulstone was corrupted and resulted in what happened to the religion of Zakarum, and we know from Act IV of D3 that angels are anything but immune to corruption. It ''cannot'' be a coincidence that Malthael's plan for destroying humanity involved tuning the Black Soulstone to rip out the demonic essence of every human and absorb it into the stone. Where do you think all of that demonic essence ''went''? Straight to Diablo himself. Everything that happened in Act V was part of Diablo's plan to be freed from the Black Soulstone, and with more power than he has ever had before.
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** There may be a far simpler explanation as to why Malthael acted as he did during Act V. Diablo was corrupting him from within the Black Soulstone.Soulstone, in a manner quite similar to how Mephisto corrupted the Zakarum back in ''VideoGame/DiabloII''. Malthael is merely an archangel, albeit the most powerful one in creation. But Diablo is the Prime Fucking Evil, the sum total of all Seven Evils in one being, and his power to corrupt has only grown. We know from Diablo II that Mephisto's soulstone was corrupted and resulted in what happened to grown since becoming the religion of Zakarum, and we know from Act IV of D3 that angels are anything but immune Prime Evil, enough to corruption.affect even angels. It ''cannot'' be a coincidence that Malthael's plan for destroying humanity involved tuning the Black Soulstone to rip out the demonic essence of every human and absorb it into the stone. Where do you think all of that demonic essence ''went''? Straight to Diablo himself. Everything that happened in Act V was part of Diablo's plan to be freed from the Black Soulstone, and with more power than he has ever had before.
