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* I have always had this impression since I saw the film, but maybe Vector was responsible that the "Swan Lake" recital ended early? When Gru flew the rocket back to the Earth to go to the recital, he noted that he still had time to arrive at the recital, but the janitor tells him that the recital had ended. Maybe Gru did arrive in time but Vector caused such a mess to capture the girls? I don't think he just took them with him once the recital ended, as he couldn't lie that he was their father because the girls are orphans and the ballet instructor likely is aware of it.

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* I have always had this impression since I saw the film, but maybe Vector was responsible that the "Swan Lake" recital ended early? When Gru flew the rocket back to the Earth to go to the recital, he noted that he still had time to arrive at the recital, but the janitor tells him that the recital had ended. ended once he enters into the auditorium. Maybe Gru did arrive in time but Vector caused such a mess to capture the girls? I don't think he just took them with him once the recital ended, as he couldn't lie that he was their father because the girls are orphans and the ballet instructor likely is was aware of it.
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* I have always had this impression since I saw the film, but maybe Vector was responsible that the "Swan Lake" recital ended early? When Gru flew the rocket back to the Earth to go to the recital, he noted that he still had time to arrive at the recital, but the janitor tells him that the recital had ended. Maybe Gru did arrive in time but Vector caused such a mess to capture the girls? I don't think he just took them with him once the recital ended, as he couldn't lie that he was their father because the girls are orphans and the ballet instructor likely is aware of it.
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* This last headscratchers must have been in all people's heads since the film was released, but...[[WhatHappenedToTheMouse what happened to Mr. Perkins following Vector's defeat?]] Is he still running the Bank of Evil? Is he even aware of what happened to his son? If the latter is the case, shouldn't he have sent a rocket to rescue him or try to get revenge on Gru in case Vector is dead?

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* This last headscratchers headscratcher must have been in all people's heads since the film was released, but...[[WhatHappenedToTheMouse what happened to Mr. Perkins following Vector's defeat?]] Is he still running the Bank of Evil? Is he even aware of what happened to his son? If the latter is the case, shouldn't he have sent a rocket to rescue him or try to get revenge on Gru in case Vector is dead?
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* When Miss Hattie comes to pick up the girls due Nefario's call, why Gru let her do it? He could have said something like "Sorry Miss Hattie for the misunderstanding, but I didn't make that call. The girls are okay with me and I still want to be their father". After all, Miss Hattie hated the girls and would surely have no interest in bringing them back to the orphanage...

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* When Miss Hattie comes to pick up the girls due Nefario's call, why Gru let her do it? He could have said something like "Sorry Miss Hattie for the misunderstanding, but I didn't make that call. The girls are okay with me and I still want to be their father". After all, Miss Hattie hated the girls and would surely have no interest in bringing them back to the orphanage...orphanage...
* This last headscratchers must have been in all people's heads since the film was released, but...[[WhatHappenedToTheMouse what happened to Mr. Perkins following Vector's defeat?]] Is he still running the Bank of Evil? Is he even aware of what happened to his son? If the latter is the case, shouldn't he have sent a rocket to rescue him or try to get revenge on Gru in case Vector is dead?
** Vector may not be dead. Realistically, he would, but this is a cartoon. In the AVL files of ''Film/DespicableMe3'', it's noted that Vector can still be seen as an orange dot if viewed through a telescope. But that doesn't mean that he is still alive, as it could still be there his lifeless corpse...

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* When Greg tried to leave the girls alone at Super Silly Fun Land, didn't he think that he would most likely be arrested later on for child abandonment? Even if the girls could get into the game alone without the company of an adult, the operator had seen that Gru was accompanying them and would surely give his description to the authorities as soon as he saw that Gru had left and did not return for his daughters.

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* While chasing Vector through the sky to retrieve the Shrnking Ray, if Gru was about to shoot Vector's ship down before Vector shrunk his ship with the ray while standing on his ship, why Gru didn't just shoot Vector's ship down while he still had the opportunity? Vector could have killed him and his minions by shrinking their ship and it's a miracle that they survived.
* When Greg Gru tried to leave the girls alone at Super Silly Fun Land, didn't he think that he would most likely be arrested later on for child abandonment? Even if the girls could get into the game alone without the company of an adult, the operator had seen that Gru was accompanying them and would surely give his description to the authorities as soon as he saw that Gru had left and did not return for his daughters.
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* When Greg tried to leave the girls alone at Super Silly Fun Land, didn't he think that he would most likely be arrested later on for child abandonment? Even if the girls could get into the game alone without the company of an adult, the operator had seen that Gru was accompanying them and would surely give his description to the authorities as soon as he saw that Gru had left and did not return for his daughters.
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** Gru's plan to recover the shrink ray from Vector required him to be as inconspicuous as possible, and this was on top of the time crunch he had to retrieve the ray, get the loans, and build the rocket in time to steal the moon. Gru may have figured the most ideal way to get the shrink ray without running into any more setbacks was to actively involve the girls in his scheme so he can sneak the cookie bots in their stash. Something as simple as programming the cookie bots to sneak into the girls' cookie wagon as they entered Vector's fortress would have gone south quickly if one of the girls were to take notice, so my best guess is he wanted to at least take a crack at adopting the girls first before trying anything smaller.

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** Gru's plan to recover the shrink ray from Vector required him to be as inconspicuous as possible, and this was on top of the time crunch he had to retrieve the ray, get the loans, and build the rocket in time to steal the moon. Gru may have figured the most ideal way to get the shrink ray without running into any more setbacks was to actively involve the girls in his scheme so he can sneak the cookie bots in their stash. Something as simple as programming the cookie bots to sneak into the girls' cookie wagon as they entered Vector's fortress would have gone south quickly if one of the girls were to take notice, so my best guess is he wanted to at least take a crack at adopting the girls first before trying anything smaller.smaller.
* Upon going to Super Silly Fun Land, when Gru resolves to destroy Space Killer due being rigged by the carnival barker, why anyone at the park did not flinch at all from watching one of the games in the park being blown up by a man with a nuclear weapon. Why they didn't call the authorities nor approached the barker to see if he was okay?
** Maybe the carnival barker had a reputation of scamming all guests so they hated him and just didn't give a damn for his misfortune?
* When Miss Hattie comes to pick up the girls due Nefario's call, why Gru let her do it? He could have said something like "Sorry Miss Hattie for the misunderstanding, but I didn't make that call. The girls are okay with me and I still want to be their father". After all, Miss Hattie hated the girls and would surely have no interest in bringing them back to the orphanage...
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** Gru's plan to recover the shrink ray from Vector required him to be as inconspicuous as possible, and this was on top of the time crunch he had to retrieve the ray, get the loans, and build the rocket in time to steal the moon. Gru may have figured the most ideal way to get the shrink ray without running into any more setbacks was to actively involve the girls in his scheme so he can sneak the cookie bots in their stash. Something as simple as programming the cookie bots to sneak into the girls' cookie wagon as they entered Vector's fortress would have gone south quickly if one of the girls were to take notice, so my best guess is he wanted to at least take a crack at adopting the girls first before trying anything less pragmatic.

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** Gru's plan to recover the shrink ray from Vector required him to be as inconspicuous as possible, and this was on top of the time crunch he had to retrieve the ray, get the loans, and build the rocket in time to steal the moon. Gru may have figured the most ideal way to get the shrink ray without running into any more setbacks was to actively involve the girls in his scheme so he can sneak the cookie bots in their stash. Something as simple as programming the cookie bots to sneak into the girls' cookie wagon as they entered Vector's fortress would have gone south quickly if one of the girls were to take notice, so my best guess is he wanted to at least take a crack at adopting the girls first before trying anything less pragmatic.smaller.
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* Gru's plan to recover the shrink ray from Vector required him to be as inconspicuous as possible, and this was on top of the time crunch he had to retrieve the ray, get the loans, and build the rocket in time to steal the moon. Gru may have figured the most ideal way to get the shrink ray without running into any more setbacks was to actively involve the girls in his scheme so he can sneak the cookie bots in their stash. Something as simple as programming the cookie bots to sneak into the girls' cookie wagon as they entered Vector's fortress would have gone south quickly if one of the girls were to take notice, so my best guess is he wanted to at least take a crack at adopting the girls first before trying anything less pragmatic.

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* ** Gru's plan to recover the shrink ray from Vector required him to be as inconspicuous as possible, and this was on top of the time crunch he had to retrieve the ray, get the loans, and build the rocket in time to steal the moon. Gru may have figured the most ideal way to get the shrink ray without running into any more setbacks was to actively involve the girls in his scheme so he can sneak the cookie bots in their stash. Something as simple as programming the cookie bots to sneak into the girls' cookie wagon as they entered Vector's fortress would have gone south quickly if one of the girls were to take notice, so my best guess is he wanted to at least take a crack at adopting the girls first before trying anything less pragmatic.
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----* Gru's plan to recover the shrink ray from Vector required him to be as inconspicuous as possible, and this was on top of the time crunch he had to retrieve the ray, get the loans, and build the rocket in time to steal the moon. Gru may have figured the most ideal way to get the shrink ray without running into any more setbacks was to actively involve the girls in his scheme so he can sneak the cookie bots in their stash. Something as simple as programming the cookie bots to sneak into the girls' cookie wagon as they entered Vector's fortress would have gone south quickly if one of the girls were to take notice, so my best guess is he wanted to at least take a crack at adopting the girls first before trying anything less pragmatic.
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* Why did Gru think he had to adopt the Girls to get them to sell cookies to Victor/Vector again? It seems like the girls have a daily routine of selling cookies. Why not just wait until the girls come to Vector again? Is he just too impatient? It's better than going through the hassle of interviewing with Miss Hattie, the minister of the orphanage.

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* Why did Gru think he had to adopt the Girls to get them to sell cookies to Victor/Vector again? It seems like the girls have a daily routine of selling cookies. Why not just wait until the girls come to Vector again? Is he just too impatient? It's better than going through the hassle of interviewing with Miss Hattie, the minister of the orphanage. Is he just too impatient?
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* Why did Gru think he had to adopt the Girls to get them to sell cookies to Victor/Vector again? It seems like the girls have a daily routine of selling cookies. Why not just wait until the girls come to Vector again? Is he just too impatient? It's better than going through the hassle of interviewing with Miss Hattie, the minister of the orphanage.
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** In addition to all 3 points made above, a nanny or babysitter can't and won't watch your kids 24/7. Nefario seems to want the girls parted from Gru indefinitely so that Gru would go back to concentrating on evil plans. Dr. Nefario even told Gru at one point, "''We can't afford any distractions!''"

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** In addition to all 3 points made above, Gru's house filled with spikes, a nanny or babysitter can't killer piranha-like dog, weapons laying around and won't watch your kids 24/7. Nefario seems death traps everywhere definitely does not scream "Welcome visitors" to want the girls parted from Gru indefinitely so that Gru would go back to concentrating on evil plans. Dr. Nefario even told Gru at one point, "''We can't afford any distractions!''"
anybody, including a babysitter.
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* It's hard to say exactly what would happen if the moon were made to instantly disappear (an equivalent to the shrinking effect, because the mass went away along with the volume). Arguably, it's nonsensical to model such a situation without including a plausible cause for it. (For example, exactly what ''direct'' effect would something capable of destroying/pushing the moon have on Earth?) But here's what ''wouldn't'' happen: [[PhysicsGoof waves instantly collapsing]]. '''Waves are not tides'''[[note]]Tides are the gradual daily changes in sea levels, and the moon is just one of several factors that add to them. Waves are caused by plain ol' wind.[[/note]] and of course the loss of tides wouldn't be '''instantaneous'''. This one bothers me because of the perpetuation of that common conflation (tides are waves) and related misconception (the moon causes waves) — Even I held that last notion until writing this and researching! (I was originally just going to complain about the speed of the effect.)

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* It's hard to say exactly what would happen if the moon were made to instantly disappear (an equivalent to the shrinking effect, because the mass went away along with the volume). Arguably, it's nonsensical to model such a situation without including a plausible cause for it. (For example, exactly what ''direct'' effect would something capable of destroying/pushing the moon have on Earth?) But here's what ''wouldn't'' happen: [[PhysicsGoof [[ArtisticLicensePhysics waves instantly collapsing]]. '''Waves are not tides'''[[note]]Tides are the gradual daily changes in sea levels, and the moon is just one of several factors that add to them. Waves are caused by plain ol' wind.[[/note]] and of course the loss of tides wouldn't be '''instantaneous'''. This one bothers me because of the perpetuation of that common conflation (tides are waves) and related misconception (the moon causes waves) — Even I held that last notion until writing this and researching! (I was originally just going to complain about the speed of the effect.)
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** Vector is Mr. Perkins' dad and Mr. Perkins is the owner of the Bank of Evil, the primary financial source that Gru relies upon for funding his evil plans. Although Gru didn't know that Mr. Perkins and Vector were father and son at the time, he did know that Mr. Perkins had great admiration for Vector because Perkins boasted to Gru about his son's evil accomplishments. Gru may have figured that if he shrunk Vector, then Vector can just rat him out to Mr. Perkins and Perkins would terminate all business ties with him - therefore no money for the rocket to the moon.

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** Vector is Mr. Perkins' dad Perkins'son and Mr. Perkins is the owner of the Bank of Evil, the primary financial source that Gru relies upon for funding his evil plans. Although Gru didn't know that Mr. Perkins and Vector were father and son at the time, he did know that Mr. Perkins had great admiration for Vector because Perkins boasted to Gru about his son's evil accomplishments. Gru may have figured that if he shrunk Vector, then Vector can just rat him out to Mr. Perkins and Perkins would terminate all business ties with him - therefore no money for the rocket to the moon.
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** 1. Victor sounds like and is a regular name, which is comparatively boring. 2. Who is going to make the connection between a name and what it technically means? A real alias at least makes people think about why he calls himself 'Vector'.
** Vector himself explains that he likes that name better than Victor because it's about quantity and magnitude, indicating he has a love for math and physics.

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** 1. Victor sounds like and is a regular name, which is comparatively boring. 2. Who is going to make the connection between a name and what it technically means? A real alias at least makes people think about why he calls himself 'Vector'.
'Vector'. Also, if you're a super-villain would you rather go by your real first name or a "cool" super-villain name of your choosing? (Although Vector doesn't sound that scary or intimidating for a supervillain's name, except to Vector himself)
** Vector himself seems to be a straight-up {{nerd}} (hence his glasses and nasal voice) who uses logic and science to conduct everything. He explains that he likes that in-detail to his dad why he's so proud of his name better than Victor because it's about - "It's a mathematical term. A quantity represented by an arrow, with both direction and magnitude, indicating he has a love for math and physics. magnitude."




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** Vector is Mr. Perkins' dad and Mr. Perkins is the owner of the Bank of Evil, the primary financial source that Gru relies upon for funding his evil plans. Although Gru didn't know that Mr. Perkins and Vector were father and son at the time, he did know that Mr. Perkins had great admiration for Vector because Perkins boasted to Gru about his son's evil accomplishments. Gru may have figured that if he shrunk Vector, then Vector can just rat him out to Mr. Perkins and Perkins would terminate all business ties with him - therefore no money for the rocket to the moon.
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** Margo may be the oldest of the girls, but she's still young so she may still want to do childish things like delivering cookies to customers by their name in alphabetical order just for the fun of it.

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** Margo may be the oldest of the girls, but she's still young so she may still want to do childish things like delivering cookies to customers by their name in alphabetical order just for the fun of it.because it's fun.




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** In addition to all 3 points made above, a nanny or babysitter can't and won't watch your kids 24/7. Nefario seems to want the girls parted from Gru indefinitely so that Gru would go back to concentrating on evil plans. Dr. Nefario even told Gru at one point, "''We can't afford any distractions!''"
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*** Every experience I've had with girl cookie sellers had us signing up for boxes and getting them weeks later. It's easier to sell a bunch of cookies in one go when you're not at risk of running out of your merchandise at the time of selling.
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**** Gru knows for a fact his freeze ray is not fatal, and the point about Nefario an his mother still stands.

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** If you had nothing to look forward to but returning to Mrs. Hattie's House From Hell, wouldn't you come up with a plan that took as long as possible? Trying to stick to it with Gru was just habit by then.

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** If you had nothing to look forward to but returning to [[ChildHater Mrs. Hattie's Hattie's]] House From Hell, wouldn't you come up with a plan that took as long as possible? Trying to stick to it with Gru was just habit by then.then.
** Margo may be the oldest of the girls, but she's still young so she may still want to do childish things like delivering cookies to customers by their name in alphabetical order just for the fun of it.



** Margo may be the oldest of the girls, but she's still young so she may still want to do childish things like delivering cookies to customers by their name in alphabetical order just for the fun of it.

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** Margo may be the oldest of the girls, but she's still young so she may still want to do childish things like delivering cookies to customers by their name in alphabetical order just for the fun of it.


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** Morals? Gru just shot Vector in the face with his freeze ray out of jealousy. Why would Gru feel guilty about shrinking Vector as well? He even tried killing Vector with rocket missiles in the sky.

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** *** Morals? Gru just shot Vector in the face with his freeze ray out of jealousy. Why would Gru feel guilty about shrinking Vector as well? He even tried killing Vector with rocket missiles in the sky.

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** Margo may be the oldest of the girls, but she's still young so she may still want to do childish things like delivering cookies to customers by their name in alphabetical order just for the fun of it.



** two possibilities: 1. Gru has his morals, if he didn't, Nefario would have been "let go" the first time he screwed up a plan and he would not have taken all the crap he got from his mother. he doesn't know what would happen to vector if he was hit with the shrink ray and dident want to find out. 2. Gru and his minions were panicking and didn't think of doing so.

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** two Two possibilities: 1. Gru has his morals, if he didn't, Nefario would have been "let go" the first time he screwed up a plan and he would not have taken all the crap he got from his mother. he doesn't know what would happen to vector Vector if he was hit with the shrink ray and dident didn't want to find out. 2. Gru and his minions were panicking and didn't think of doing so.so.
** Morals? Gru just shot Vector in the face with his freeze ray out of jealousy. Why would Gru feel guilty about shrinking Vector as well? He even tried killing Vector with rocket missiles in the sky.
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** I wouldn’t call it hypocritical. It’s because there’s a difference between misunderstanding something and other people (albeit unintentionally) hindering your goals. Nobody was interfering with Nefario’s part in the plan except himself, whereas for Gru, other parties were interfering with Gru’s role without a care. It also helps that ''the girls shouldn’t have been interfering with Gru while he was working in the first place'' and that Gru told the girls many times to not disturb him while he was trying to work on his plans, but the girls nonchalantly refused to listen to his pleas. It’s like working at an office job with two problematic employees: an intern who has issues understanding things due to being a new employee and an experienced mother who constantly brings her children to work with her, and said children are making it hard for the mother to complete her tasks by constantly distracting her. It would make much more sense for the intern to come off as more sympathetic than the children of the mother in this scenario, because despite the children’s behavior, the mother still has the power to keep them in line. Also, like I was saying before, ''the children shouldn’t even be at work with the mother in the first place,'' anyway because children can be a detriment to the parents performance. So if you think about it, it’s not too hard to see why Nefario came to that conclusion even though he’s acting like TheLoad himself.
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* Where did Dr. Nefario get off saying that the girls were an distraction to Gru and an obstruction to their plan when he was also guilty of wasting time misunderstanding Gru's orders on what to invent? Isn't that a bit hypocritical coming from him, even though he didn't mean to make those mistakes?
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\n** 1) They're established to be pretty strapped for cash. Gru has an entire army to feed and shelter, and Dr Neferio isn't going to get rid of a few minions to get a babysitter. In his eyes its a lot easier and cheaper to get rid of the girls than get ANOTHER person here. 2)The girls were in their house less than a week and discover a lot of their secrets. What if the babysitter did, you know, an adult that can blab to the authorities? 3)By the time the girls were a distraction, Gru had gotten attached to them. He wasn't going to let a stranger take care of them.
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* Why couldn't Dr. Nefario just get a nanny or a babysitter to look after the girls since he considered them a distraction? It would have been a better choice than to send the girls back to the orphanage.


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* Why couldn't Dr. Nefario convince Gru to just get a nanny or a babysitter to look after the girls since he considered them a distraction? It would have been a better choice than to send the girls back to the orphanage.

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* Why couldn't Dr. Nefario just get a nanny or a babysitter to look after the girls since he considered them a distraction? It would have been a better choice than to send the girls back to the orphanage?


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* Why couldn't Dr. Nefario just get a nanny or a babysitter to look after the girls since he considered them a distraction? It would have been a better choice than to send the girls back to the orphanage?

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** two possibilities: 1. Gru has his morals, if he didn't, Nefario would have been "let go" the first time he screwed up a plan and
he would not have taken all the crap he got from his mother. he doesn't know what would happen to vector if he was hit with the shrink ray and dident want to find out. 2. Gru and his minions were panicking and didn't think of doing so.

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** two possibilities: 1. Gru has his morals, if he didn't, Nefario would have been "let go" the first time he screwed up a plan and
and he would not have taken all the crap he got from his mother. he doesn't know what would happen to vector if he was hit with the shrink ray and dident want to find out. 2. Gru and his minions were panicking and didn't think of doing so.
** Gru probably didn't want Vector to know anything about him stealing the shrink ray back, so he tried escaping his lair without letting him know he was there. Maybe he would've shrunken him down if he'd gotten cornered and things came to that, but they didn't, so there was no need.

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