History Headscratchers / DemolitionMan

24th Mar '18 3:29:34 PM nombretomado
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* The very beginning gives [[ToddTheT1000 this troper]] a JustBugsMe moment - they automatically take Phoenix's word over Spartan's. Spartan is one of the city's most successful cops, whose accolades include nailing some of Los Angeles' worst scumbags of the age, and yet they still freeze him in cryo-stasis. Spartan did a thermal check of the building that only found Phoenix and some of his goonies, and that would probably have been confirmed by written reports, or at least the testimony of Zachary Lamb, the pilot who drops him into Phoenix's hideout. Does it never even ''occur'' to Spartan's police chief that the hostages were already dead? Sure, it turns out that that's true later on (it clearly occurred that Spartan even had realized what Phoenix had done the moment the fire captain said, "There are bodies everyhere! There must be twenty or thirty. Everywhere!"), but you'd [[GenreBlind think it would've occurred to somebody]] before you just go and freeze Spartan right up like that?

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* The very beginning gives beginning, for [[ToddTheT1000 this troper]] a JustBugsMe moment - they automatically take Phoenix's word over Spartan's. Spartan is one of the city's most successful cops, whose accolades include nailing some of Los Angeles' worst scumbags of the age, and yet they still freeze him in cryo-stasis. Spartan did a thermal check of the building that only found Phoenix and some of his goonies, and that would probably have been confirmed by written reports, or at least the testimony of Zachary Lamb, the pilot who drops him into Phoenix's hideout. Does it never even ''occur'' to Spartan's police chief that the hostages were already dead? Sure, it turns out that that's true later on (it clearly occurred that Spartan even had realized what Phoenix had done the moment the fire captain said, "There are bodies everyhere! There must be twenty or thirty. Everywhere!"), but you'd [[GenreBlind think it would've occurred to somebody]] before you just go and freeze Spartan right up like that?



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13th Mar '18 6:53:37 PM 5u3902jgn-39
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** Almost certainly there are sanctioned terminations. Remember that a large part of Cocteau's plan for socially engineering San Angeles is that they need to unquestioningly believe in him and what he's doing. (Note how Lenina Huxley, despite being perfectly aware of what a monster he is at that point, is extremely upset at his death and laments about how their society might not be able to continue.) A major part of him establishing that sort of god-like control over people would be him being able to determine who lives and who dies. Even if execution isn't technically legal (because remember you can get an eternal sentence to cryoprison which is effectively execution just not as humane), then he would want to make compassionate euthanasia legal... but only if the person in question applied for and obtained permission or a license (AKA his blessing).
16th Jan '18 9:59:06 PM Fireblood
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[[Euthanasia in San Angeles?]]

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[[Euthanasia [[folder:Euthanasia in San Angeles?]]
16th Jan '18 9:58:38 PM Fireblood
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[[Euthanasia in San Angeles?]]
* Garcia calls murders which Phoenix committed "non-sanctioned terminations". That remark got me thinking-so does this mean there are ''sanctioned'' terminations? We know the society is totally against violence and killing, but perhaps they might make an exception in regards to euthanasia? Or it might be something else. Any idea what to make of this?
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14th Jun '17 7:58:12 PM AbnormalMoose
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** Or Cocteau allows a very small cadre of people to be trained in violence as a coast guard... but they're never allowed to set foot on land or call home again. It's the exact sort of callously "necessary" thing he'd come up with.
14th Jun '17 7:54:55 PM AbnormalMoose
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** He was either thinking he'd keep him around as a sort of attack dog or put him back into cryostasis. Perhaps a mix of both, just occasionally thawing Phoenix out when he needed to use him for some purpose like eliminating a rogue element or stirring things up for propaganda. He thought he had way more control over Phoenix than he did, likely in part due to the fact that his social engineering has turned the society into a minor cult of personality with him at its head.
15th Apr '17 12:38:53 PM AbnormalMoose
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** The implication seems to be that the ground cracked open and sections of the city actually did drop into the underground, yes. The "Big One" seems to have been major enough for that.
28th Mar '17 2:46:57 PM gothelittle
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** Remember that the San Angeles Utopia turns out to be a dystopia controlled by an "Evil Mister Rogers". Procreation is done in a lab. The doctors don't have to have a cure for Tourette's; just an early way to identify it (or markers that may possibly raise the risk of it) and an unfortunate pregnancy failure that was unquestionably a natural miscarriage and definitely not an abortion, because abortions are illegal, you see. Here, let's run this test. Honey, we're going to give you a special shot to make everything better. Oh dear, you are having a medical event. Never fear; we will handle it properly.
20th Feb '17 6:08:56 PM nombretomado
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** I think the interview answer was along the lines of the 'what was in the box' for CastAway. "It was a plot device / throwaway gag, quit thinking so much about it."

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** I think the interview answer was along the lines of the 'what was in the box' for CastAway.''Film/CastAway''. "It was a plot device / throwaway gag, quit thinking so much about it."
27th Jul '16 1:21:08 AM Omeganian
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** Mind you, we don't know ''whom'' she called. She might have wanted to invite her BFF for a shopping spree for all we know.
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