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* Why didn't Bullseye kill the priest? He's never before shown hesitance toward the killing of innocent bystanders, and this one could give testimony to the police that would be potentially problematic for both him and his employer.
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*** You don't need finesse to be an expert fighter, and at no point does anyone say "throwing things" is his only skill. It may be his ''best'' skill, yes, but Kingpin would have to be an idiot to think someone who could chuck paperclips like a mofo could take on a night-prowling pseudo-ninja. Besides, the only pieces of evidence we have that Elektra is a highly-trained fighter are:
## Her fight with a blind guy who was just having fun with her
## Her fight with a bunch of sandbags (wow, way to show off there)
## Her fight with a blind guy who really wanted to avoid hurting her
* Why didn't Bullseye kill the priest? He's never before shown hesitance toward the killing of innocent bystanders, and this one could give testimony to the police that would be potentially problematic for both him and hisemployer.employer.
** Maybe he meant to kill Daredevil early, then finish off the priest later.
## Her fight with a blind guy who was just having fun with her
## Her fight with a bunch of sandbags (wow, way to show off there)
## Her fight with a blind guy who really wanted to avoid hurting her
* Why didn't Bullseye kill the priest? He's never before shown hesitance toward the killing of innocent bystanders, and this one could give testimony to the police that would be potentially problematic for both him and his
** Maybe he meant to kill Daredevil early, then finish off the priest later.
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*** Allow me to elaborate: Since when does "throw things really good" translate to "hand to hand combat skills?"
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*** Allow me to elaborate: Since when does "throw things really good" translate to "hand to hand combat skills?"skills?" Look at the scene where he fights Elektra: Dude has less finesse than Matt's dad did, for cripes sake.
* Why didn't Bullseye kill the priest? He's never before shown hesitance toward the killing of innocent bystanders, and this one could give testimony to the police that would be potentially problematic for both him and his employer.
* Why didn't Bullseye kill the priest? He's never before shown hesitance toward the killing of innocent bystanders, and this one could give testimony to the police that would be potentially problematic for both him and his employer.
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** I don't think the kingpin, the dude who's running new york city from the shadows, would hire someone who's just some Irish barfly. the guy is a hired killer, he kills for a living and apparently for fun, I'm pretty sure that if you're doing something you enjoy for a living that you're also REALLY good at it. granted elektra was a highly trained ninja, who said bullseye wasn't a highly trained assassin?
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** I don't think the kingpin, the dude who's running new york city from the shadows, would hire someone who's just some Irish barfly. the guy is a hired killer, he kills for a living and apparently for fun, I'm pretty sure that if you're doing something you enjoy for a living that you're also REALLY good at it. granted elektra was a highly trained ninja, who said bullseye wasn't a highly trained assassin?assassin?
*** Allow me to elaborate: Since when does "throw things really good" translate to "hand to hand combat skills?"
*** Allow me to elaborate: Since when does "throw things really good" translate to "hand to hand combat skills?"
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** It's less that he can't stand certain noises and more that he isn't expecting them. I can prevent myself from even flinching when getting a vaccination shot, but if you poked me with a hairpin without me seeing you coming, I'm going to jump five feet and scream like a little girl. Involuntary reactions.
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** It's less that he can't stand certain noises and more that he isn't expecting them. I can prevent myself from even flinching when getting a vaccination shot, but if you poked me with a hairpin without me seeing you coming, I'm going to jump five feet and scream like a little girl. Involuntary reactions.
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* Okay, so, under what circumstances is a highly trained ninja (Elektra) being beaten by some Irish barfly (Bullseye) supposed to be plausible (I'm talking movieverse, in case that wasn't clear)?
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* Okay, so, under what circumstances is a highly trained ninja (Elektra) being beaten by some Irish barfly (Bullseye) supposed to be plausible (I'm talking movieverse, in case that wasn't clear)?clear)?
** I don't think the kingpin, the dude who's running new york city from the shadows, would hire someone who's just some Irish barfly. the guy is a hired killer, he kills for a living and apparently for fun, I'm pretty sure that if you're doing something you enjoy for a living that you're also REALLY good at it. granted elektra was a highly trained ninja, who said bullseye wasn't a highly trained assassin?
** I don't think the kingpin, the dude who's running new york city from the shadows, would hire someone who's just some Irish barfly. the guy is a hired killer, he kills for a living and apparently for fun, I'm pretty sure that if you're doing something you enjoy for a living that you're also REALLY good at it. granted elektra was a highly trained ninja, who said bullseye wasn't a highly trained assassin?
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** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint It wasn't Nickleback, it was Seether]].
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** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint It wasn't Nickleback, it was Seether]].Seether]].
* Okay, so, under what circumstances is a highly trained ninja (Elektra) being beaten by some Irish barfly (Bullseye) supposed to be plausible (I'm talking movieverse, in case that wasn't clear)?
* Okay, so, under what circumstances is a highly trained ninja (Elektra) being beaten by some Irish barfly (Bullseye) supposed to be plausible (I'm talking movieverse, in case that wasn't clear)?
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** It's less that he can't stand certain noises and more that he isn't expecting them. I can prevent myself from even flinching when getting a vaccination shot, but if you poked me with a hairpin without me seeing you coming, I'm going to jump five feet and scream like a little girl. Involuntary reactions.
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*** It doesn't make sense. He's bothered by some loud noises to the point of yelling about it, yet he's perfectly fine with other loud noises.
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** As for the last one, you think that's something he ''chooses'' to do? He's in ''pain'', and having a natural, reflexive reaction to that ''pain''. You might as well ask, "Why does that sissy have to loudly go on about it every time he breaks his fingers?"
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** As for the last one, you think that's something he ''chooses'' to do? He's in ''pain'', and having a natural, reflexive reaction to that ''pain''. You might as well ask, "Why does that sissy have to loudly go on about it every time he breaks his fingers?"fingers?"
** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint It wasn't Nickleback, it was Seether]].
** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint It wasn't Nickleback, it was Seether]].
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* Questions that were running through my head while watching this movie (other than "WHYYY?"): Matt's superpower is massively heightened senses of hearing, smell, touch and taste. How does this translate into the ability to perform ridiculous feats of acrobatics and martial arts without any prior training in order to scare away the school bullies? And if Matt's ears are so sensitive that he has to sleep in a sensory deprivation tank and a passing train incapacitates him, how come he blasts Nickelback at full volume while he's getting ready for work? And why is it that he can detect minute changes in temperature and hear police radios blocks away, and yet he has to bang a railing in order to determine whereabouts on an empty subway platform his mark is hiding? Should he be able to hear the guy's heartbeat? Inconsistency, much? And why does Matt have to loudly display his weakness by screaming and clutching his head at every single loud noise?
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* Questions that were running through my head while watching this movie (other than "WHYYY?"): Matt's superpower is massively heightened senses of hearing, smell, touch and taste. How does this translate into the ability to perform ridiculous feats of acrobatics and martial arts without any prior training in order to scare away the school bullies? And if Matt's ears are so sensitive that he has to sleep in a sensory deprivation tank and a passing train incapacitates him, how come he blasts Nickelback at full volume while he's getting ready for work? And why is it that he can detect minute changes in temperature and hear police radios blocks away, and yet he has to bang a railing in order to determine whereabouts on an empty subway platform his mark is hiding? Should he be able to hear the guy's heartbeat? Inconsistency, much? And why does Matt have to loudly display his weakness by screaming and clutching his head at every single loud noise?noise?
** As for the last one, you think that's something he ''chooses'' to do? He's in ''pain'', and having a natural, reflexive reaction to that ''pain''. You might as well ask, "Why does that sissy have to loudly go on about it every time he breaks his fingers?"
** As for the last one, you think that's something he ''chooses'' to do? He's in ''pain'', and having a natural, reflexive reaction to that ''pain''. You might as well ask, "Why does that sissy have to loudly go on about it every time he breaks his fingers?"
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* Questions that were running through my head while watching this movie (other than "WHYYY?"): Matt's superpower is massively heightened senses of hearing, smell, touch and taste. How does this translate into the ability to perform ridiculous feats of acrobatics and martial arts without any prior training in order to scare away the school bullies? And if Matt's ears are so sensitive that he has to sleep in an isolation tank and a passing train incapacitates him, how come he blasts Nickelback at full volume while he's getting ready for work? And why is it that he can detect minute changes in temperature and hear police radios blocks away, and yet he has to bang a railing in order to determine whereabouts on an empty subway platform his mark is hiding? Should he be able to hear the guy's heartbeat? Inconsistency, much? And why does Matt have to loudly display his weakness by screaming and clutching his head at every single loud noise?
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* Questions that were running through my head while watching this movie (other than "WHYYY?"): Matt's superpower is massively heightened senses of hearing, smell, touch and taste. How does this translate into the ability to perform ridiculous feats of acrobatics and martial arts without any prior training in order to scare away the school bullies? And if Matt's ears are so sensitive that he has to sleep in an isolation a sensory deprivation tank and a passing train incapacitates him, how come he blasts Nickelback at full volume while he's getting ready for work? And why is it that he can detect minute changes in temperature and hear police radios blocks away, and yet he has to bang a railing in order to determine whereabouts on an empty subway platform his mark is hiding? Should he be able to hear the guy's heartbeat? Inconsistency, much? And why does Matt have to loudly display his weakness by screaming and clutching his head at every single loud noise?
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** The filmmakers were trying to invoke RuleOfCool. Whether they succeeded or not is YMMV.
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** The filmmakers were trying to invoke RuleOfCool. Whether they succeeded or not is YMMV.YMMV.
* Questions that were running through my head while watching this movie (other than "WHYYY?"): Matt's superpower is massively heightened senses of hearing, smell, touch and taste. How does this translate into the ability to perform ridiculous feats of acrobatics and martial arts without any prior training in order to scare away the school bullies? And if Matt's ears are so sensitive that he has to sleep in an isolation tank and a passing train incapacitates him, how come he blasts Nickelback at full volume while he's getting ready for work? And why is it that he can detect minute changes in temperature and hear police radios blocks away, and yet he has to bang a railing in order to determine whereabouts on an empty subway platform his mark is hiding? Should he be able to hear the guy's heartbeat? Inconsistency, much? And why does Matt have to loudly display his weakness by screaming and clutching his head at every single loud noise?
* Questions that were running through my head while watching this movie (other than "WHYYY?"): Matt's superpower is massively heightened senses of hearing, smell, touch and taste. How does this translate into the ability to perform ridiculous feats of acrobatics and martial arts without any prior training in order to scare away the school bullies? And if Matt's ears are so sensitive that he has to sleep in an isolation tank and a passing train incapacitates him, how come he blasts Nickelback at full volume while he's getting ready for work? And why is it that he can detect minute changes in temperature and hear police radios blocks away, and yet he has to bang a railing in order to determine whereabouts on an empty subway platform his mark is hiding? Should he be able to hear the guy's heartbeat? Inconsistency, much? And why does Matt have to loudly display his weakness by screaming and clutching his head at every single loud noise?
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* Why did Daredevil apparently cover the ground in oil with his logo after the train killed Quesada? How did Ben Urich know it was there, and to throw his cigarette on it? What was the point exactly? Daredevil apparently never did this kind of thing again for the rest of the movie.
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* Why did Daredevil apparently cover the ground in oil with his logo after the train killed Quesada? How did Ben Urich know it was there, and to throw his cigarette on it? What was the point exactly? Daredevil apparently never did this kind of thing again for the rest of the movie.movie.
** The filmmakers were trying to invoke RuleOfCool. Whether they succeeded or not is YMMV.
** The filmmakers were trying to invoke RuleOfCool. Whether they succeeded or not is YMMV.
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*** Sure they found it odd. They also found it cool, hence why they all gathered around to watch.
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*** Sure they found it odd. They also found it cool, hence why they all gathered around to watch.watch.
* Why did Daredevil apparently cover the ground in oil with his logo after the train killed Quesada? How did Ben Urich know it was there, and to throw his cigarette on it? What was the point exactly? Daredevil apparently never did this kind of thing again for the rest of the movie.
* Why did Daredevil apparently cover the ground in oil with his logo after the train killed Quesada? How did Ben Urich know it was there, and to throw his cigarette on it? What was the point exactly? Daredevil apparently never did this kind of thing again for the rest of the movie.
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*** Have you ever tried "shoving off" someone who has you in an arm lock? It's called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain-compliance_holds#Pain_compliance_hold pain compliance]] for a reason.
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*** And all ''she'' did was try to put him in a simple arm lock. That's a fairly standard response to a strange man who has been creepily following you around, despite being told several times to stop, and who suddenly grabs you by the arm.
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*** ...that actually makes sense.
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** Did the children not find it odd that a blind guy was fist-fighting a woman in the playground?
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** Did the children not find it odd that a blind guy was fist-fighting a woman in the playground?playground?
*** Sure they found it odd. They also found it cool, hence why they all gathered around to watch.
*** Sure they found it odd. They also found it cool, hence why they all gathered around to watch.
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** I re-watched it on Youtube. All he did was grab her arm. She was the one who decided to go kung-fu on him.
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** I re-watched it on Youtube. All he did was grab her arm. She was the one who decided to go kung-fu on him.him.
** Did the children not find it odd that a blind guy was fist-fighting a woman in the playground?
** Did the children not find it odd that a blind guy was fist-fighting a woman in the playground?
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** I re-watched it on Youtube. All he did was just grab her arm. She was the one who decided to go kung-fu on him.
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** I re-watched it on Youtube. All he did was just grab her arm. She was the one who decided to go kung-fu on him.
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** Why would he say "uncle"? I think he'd be trying to shove her off of him.
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** Why would he say "uncle"? I think he'd be trying to shove her off of him.him.
** I re-watched it on Youtube. All he did was just grab her arm. She was the one who decided to go kung-fu on him.
** I re-watched it on Youtube. All he did was just grab her arm. She was the one who decided to go kung-fu on him.
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** It wasn't like she walked up and decked him. He goaded her into it with some simple moves, she responded, and it just sort of escalated from there. If he had been just a normal blind guy who tried to block her path she probably would have put him in a light arm lock until he said uncle and let him go.
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** It wasn't like she walked up and decked him. He goaded her into it with some simple moves, she responded, and it just sort of escalated from there. If he had been just a normal blind guy who tried to block her path she probably would have put him in a light arm lock until he said uncle and let him go.go.
** Why would he say "uncle"? I think he'd be trying to shove her off of him.
** Why would he say "uncle"? I think he'd be trying to shove her off of him.
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* What was the point of Dardevil (who wasn't even in costume yet) fighting his girlfriend in the playground? Assuming the girl didn't know this blind lawyer was Daredevil, it paints her in a bad light because she's willingly trying to attack a blind man for no reason.
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* What was the point of Dardevil (who wasn't even in costume yet) fighting his girlfriend in the playground? Assuming the girl didn't know this blind lawyer was Daredevil, it paints her in a bad light because she's willingly trying to attack a blind man for no reason.reason.
** It wasn't like she walked up and decked him. He goaded her into it with some simple moves, she responded, and it just sort of escalated from there. If he had been just a normal blind guy who tried to block her path she probably would have put him in a light arm lock until he said uncle and let him go.
** It wasn't like she walked up and decked him. He goaded her into it with some simple moves, she responded, and it just sort of escalated from there. If he had been just a normal blind guy who tried to block her path she probably would have put him in a light arm lock until he said uncle and let him go.
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** It doesn't actually have eyeholes. It has eye-shaped thingies that ''look'' like eyeholes.
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** It doesn't actually have eyeholes. It has eye-shaped thingies that ''look'' like eyeholes.eyeholes.
* What was the point of Dardevil (who wasn't even in costume yet) fighting his girlfriend in the playground? Assuming the girl didn't know this blind lawyer was Daredevil, it paints her in a bad light because she's willingly trying to attack a blind man for no reason.
* What was the point of Dardevil (who wasn't even in costume yet) fighting his girlfriend in the playground? Assuming the girl didn't know this blind lawyer was Daredevil, it paints her in a bad light because she's willingly trying to attack a blind man for no reason.
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** Because he doesn't want anyone knowing he's blind. It adds a layer of concealment to the secret identity. You see eyeholes, you assume Daredevil can see, so you won't even think that the blind lawyer might be him.
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** Because he doesn't want anyone knowing he's blind. It adds a layer of concealment to the secret identity. You see eyeholes, you assume Daredevil can see, so you won't even think that the blind lawyer might be him.him.
** It doesn't actually have eyeholes. It has eye-shaped thingies that ''look'' like eyeholes.
** It doesn't actually have eyeholes. It has eye-shaped thingies that ''look'' like eyeholes.
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The theatrical cut bugs me. "Let's cut out everything that makes this movie unique to make room for the same romance plot we've seen a million times in comic book movies!" Way to go, Fox.
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* General ''Daredevil'' question: Why does Daredevil's mask have eyeholes?
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** And aside from all of ''that'', the reason he left the bar was that he had just taken a job for the most powerful crime lord in America. So even if he was caught, or traced, Kingpin probably could have had quashed it.
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*** His scar is on his forehead, not "covering most of his face," as seen ''in the movie'', a hat covers it up completely. And again, he was seen by several people, but none of them apparently know his name or where he went. And the cops wouldn't know he was heading for the airport, so why would they be checking for him, specifically, there? You're acting like the second he stepped out of the bar 20 cops would've been there with guns on him, but that's not how law enforcement works. In the US, at least, it could be ''weeks'' between the commission of a crime and an actual arrest.
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****** Are you serious? Ignoring the excessively tight security in airports (to the extent of police/guards and checkpoints being everywhere), the guy has a giant scar in the shape of a cross-hair covering most of his face and was seen by several people, so how in the name of hell can he get away? Even if he had all the projectiles in the world, he can't dodge an array of bullets from several guns, so just "getting away" doesn't exactly seem feasable.
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*** Honestly, I think this soundtrack ranks up there with ''TheCrow'' when it comes to "astoundingly awesome soundtrack albums." You gotta remember that it's this soundtrack that really '''introduced''' Evanescence to a wide audience, so they only became "overplayed" in the wake of this soundtrack.
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*** Honestly, I think this soundtrack ranks up there with ''TheCrow'' when it comes to "astoundingly awesome soundtrack albums." You gotta remember that it's this soundtrack that really '''introduced''' Evanescence to a wide audience, so they only became "overplayed" in the wake of this soundtrack.soundtrack.
The theatrical cut bugs me. "Let's cut out everything that makes this movie unique to make room for the same romance plot we've seen a million times in comic book movies!" Way to go, Fox.
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***** Sometimes they get away with it. The fact that Bullseye was out of the country within hours would help.