History Headscratchers / DantesInferno

19th Mar '16 11:09:15 AM ErebusElysium
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* Much like in ''Divine Comedy'', Lucifer is portrayed just as much of a prisoner as the other damned, held by giant chains found linked all throughout Hell. However, he is also portrayed as Hell's ruler, Virgil claiming that the only reason why Hell is such a CrapsackWorld is because he wants it to be that way. In the animated film, he is even seen giving orders to the demons. However, he needs to lure a soul into Hell (like [[spoiler:Alexander the Great, Lancelot, Attila the Hun and Dante himself]]) in order to free him. Why does he not command the damned souls already there to free him? What about the hundreds of demons under his command? Can they not do it and he needs a live human to free him?
** What makes Dante so special that he could make it that far more so than the others? They imply that it was because Dante's sins were so great that he was meant to go to the ninth circle anyway, but are they saying that this somehow makes Dante worse than [[spoiler:Attila the Hun]]?
** Is it because he wields Death's Scythe? If so, did Lancelot and Alexander also kill Death and stole his scythe? How many times has this happened? Is there more than one GrimReaper wandering about out there? That would explain why more damned souls fall long after Dante kills him when he enters Hell.
5th Jan '15 4:51:56 AM Thanos6
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*** In the poem, there are many people who are outside of Hell proper, and Pilate is implied (though not directly stated) to be one of them. These are people who, for all intents and purposes, weren't good enough for Heaven but not bad enough for Hell. This includes angels who didn't join in rebelling with Satan or confirm their allegiance to God but stayed neutral. Their afterlife is to eternally chase a flag but never catch it.
30th Dec '14 8:04:35 PM Nyperold
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*** Not until you get to him (''after'' you've already absolved, punished, or ignored Pilate and Orpheus), and even then, that only explains why ''new arrivals'' won't be sentenced, not why people dead since the 2nd century at the latest are up there while contemporaries of Dante are down in the circles.
26th Oct '14 5:46:36 AM Dephlogisticate
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** You killed King Minos- the judge of the damned. They never got sentenced because the sentence-giver can't do it anymore, and I doubt Hell has back-up cashiers.
7th Apr '14 4:08:39 PM Vardinator
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** I took that to mean Dante's soul was defiant enough to actually fight Death and use the Harvester like any other combat scythe. There's no reason a non-physical entity shouldn't be able to use a weapon Death uses against non-physical entities if he can steal it. That's making assumptions about whether Hell and Death, as constructs, are physical or non-physical, never mind the mind fuck all about what a non-physical thing even is in any context.
31st Mar '14 2:58:44 PM Nyperold
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* I haven't read the original ''Literature/DivineComedy'', so this may or may not be a problem with that, but... you encounter Pontius Pilate on the way to the boat, and Orpheus within it. But then, in the actual circles, you see several people from Dante's lifetime (including a couple of bosses), along with others from before his lifetime. Shouldn't Pilate and Orpheus have been long since unloaded and sentenced? Is Hell's queuing system really that weird? Did Orpheus just hide in there somehow (even with his constant out-loud retelling of his story), or is his particular punishment to just ride the boat back and forth without actually getting where it goes?
9th Oct '13 1:53:45 PM MagBas
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* Why is Beatrice's portrayal so sexist? Even TheDivineComedy attempted to depict her FairForIts day, while this goes back to the Roman Empire in terms of female characters.

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* Why is Beatrice's portrayal so sexist? Even TheDivineComedy attempted to depict her FairForIts day, while this goes back to the Roman Empire in terms of female characters.
29th Apr '13 6:32:04 AM Aeshi
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* At the end we learn that Dante has been dead the whole time and that by extension the fight with Death never happened. So why does Dante still have his scythe?, the scythe that he used to free Lucifer no less!
11th Mar '13 4:32:02 PM Taxima
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** Well the only one we see make a DealWithTheDevil is Beatrice, and it's likely she never really trusted him. Her concern for Dante just outweighed the obvious warnings of dealing with lucifer.

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** Well the only one we see make a DealWithTheDevil is Beatrice, and it's likely she never really trusted him. Her concern for Dante just outweighed the obvious warnings of dealing with lucifer.
Lucifer.
11th Mar '13 4:31:39 PM Taxima
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** Well the only one we see make a DealWithTheDevil is Beatrice, and it's likely she never really trusted him. Her concern for Dante just outweighed the obvious warnings of dealing with lucifer.


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*** Dante could never blame her for that. He loves her to the point of waging war against Hell. And he did prove that the real her was under there.
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