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* My Watsonian explaination of choice regarding this one is a theory that a fan came up with. Said theory is that you've got three different kinds of beings that are native to the Ghost Zone, which are, from weakest to strongest:
**Type 1: 'Blob' ghosts. These ghosts are basically the Ghost Zone's equivalent to life rising from the primordial muck. Except replace cytoplasm with ectoplasm and all. Various degrees of sentience, and some might take on representation of certain things if their creation has an affinity. Examples would be all the blobs and form lacking ghosts we've seen whirling around, or things like the Ectopusses. The Far Frozen's inhabitants are a special case. More analogous to humans, but hailing from the Ghost Zone (hence having a lot of knowledge/treasure of it and caring so much about Danny pwning Pariah Dark)
**Type 2: Dead People. Basically, people who died and ended up in the GZ. However, the majority of them do not get involved due to various reasons, such as wanting the release or staying to a certain region. However, some gain abilities or attributes held in life (so, Lunch Lady got her food control over her being a, well, lunch lady. Box Ghost probably worked at a warehouse, Technus as an inventor, etc.). They're sentient as any of us. Note that this is also a power level that's varied; since theoretically a Type 2 could become powerful enough to challenge Type 3s, seen below.
**Type 3: Deity-type. Despite the term, it more means that these ghosts are a personification of something. Clockwork and Time, the Fright Knight and Halloween, Undergrowth and Flora, so on and so forth. These ghosts are made with the same stuff as the others, yes, but far stronger. They never lived as humans or other life knows it, but rather were part of the universe and trapped in the Ghost Zone for the most part unless pulled from it (IE, a spell similar to what punted the FK into the GZ also could release him). Note that when he showed up, the Fright Knight was the strongest foe Danny ever faced. However, all of these ghosts have some sort of weakness tied to their natural element. IE, Undergrowth and his roots or the Fright Knight and spells. No easy one for Clockwork, but the idea is the same.
**Type 1: 'Blob' ghosts. These ghosts are basically the Ghost Zone's equivalent to life rising from the primordial muck. Except replace cytoplasm with ectoplasm and all. Various degrees of sentience, and some might take on representation of certain things if their creation has an affinity. Examples would be all the blobs and form lacking ghosts we've seen whirling around, or things like the Ectopusses. The Far Frozen's inhabitants are a special case. More analogous to humans, but hailing from the Ghost Zone (hence having a lot of knowledge/treasure of it and caring so much about Danny pwning Pariah Dark)
**Type 2: Dead People. Basically, people who died and ended up in the GZ. However, the majority of them do not get involved due to various reasons, such as wanting the release or staying to a certain region. However, some gain abilities or attributes held in life (so, Lunch Lady got her food control over her being a, well, lunch lady. Box Ghost probably worked at a warehouse, Technus as an inventor, etc.). They're sentient as any of us. Note that this is also a power level that's varied; since theoretically a Type 2 could become powerful enough to challenge Type 3s, seen below.
**Type 3: Deity-type. Despite the term, it more means that these ghosts are a personification of something. Clockwork and Time, the Fright Knight and Halloween, Undergrowth and Flora, so on and so forth. These ghosts are made with the same stuff as the others, yes, but far stronger. They never lived as humans or other life knows it, but rather were part of the universe and trapped in the Ghost Zone for the most part unless pulled from it (IE, a spell similar to what punted the FK into the GZ also could release him). Note that when he showed up, the Fright Knight was the strongest foe Danny ever faced. However, all of these ghosts have some sort of weakness tied to their natural element. IE, Undergrowth and his roots or the Fright Knight and spells. No easy one for Clockwork, but the idea is the same.
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* How come no one even though Danny Phantoms face gets plastered on the news, none of his classmates or his parents make the connection.
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** It's revealed in "Doctor's Disorders" that the idea of humans having ghost powers is considered impossible. It never occurs to anybody that Danny Phantom could be Danny Fenton because it never occurs to them that Danny Phantom could have a human alter ego at all -- as far as the world's concerned, Danny Phantom is a ghost, not a human with ghost powers and a SecretIdentity.
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** Ask half-ghost Vlad -- he made it (either he or his sometimes-partner Skulker). The GiW's weapons and Fentons' weapons also usually have the ghost glow and even run on "ecto-energy" according to "Reality Trip."
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** [[RedEyesTakeWarning Red is sort of the go-to eye colour for ooglie-booglies]] and given that the green eyes are specifically ectoplasm-green for ghosts (green eyed humans have a slightly duller shade) I sort of figured that it was a sort of a 'windows to the soul' situation.
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*** The lingusitic interpretation idea is probably the most likely. While 'halfa' may stem from 'half a human, half a ghost' the usage/percieved meaning seems to have drifted a bit. I even saw one fanfic discussion that defined the terms as "a person endowed with, or who has somehow gained access to, power of origins that are located somewhere in the dimension
colloquially known as the Ghost Zone" and I've also seen some debate as to whether or not Valerie counts as one due to what happened with her second suit.
colloquially known as the Ghost Zone" and I've also seen some debate as to whether or not Valerie counts as one due to what happened with her second suit.
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* It makes sense for her Technus gear given it's ghost made, but why did the original gear give her a glow like Danny has in ghost form given that it was literally just a jumpsuit?
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* It makes sense for her Technus gear given it's ghost made, but why did the original gear give her a glow like Danny has in ghost form given that it was literally just a jumpsuit?
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** So basically, he's [[SchrodingersCat Schrodinger's Ghost]].
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** My high school only has roughly 49 students OVERALL in the sophomore class. So yeah, it's possible.
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*** Yes we do. In one episode Danny stopped Vlad from getting his ghost powers and it altered the future. Vlad's hair was still white.
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** This troper finds brown eyes to be just as lovely and pretty.
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* Made even more ridiculous/sadder when you consider that he himself has brown eyes.
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**** I may be late to the game, but I don't see how the "biggest issue" with the asteroid was only how it began hurdling toward earth. I think the biggest issue is the fact that it was anti-ghost, and therefore designed specifically so ghosts can't, you know, phase through it. When you establish a fundamental rule in a series' universe, you can't build a whole episode's (let alone the series finale's) solution upon breaking it, without ANY explanation! I'd have even accepted some ReversePolarity bullshit. The meteor should have collided with them anyway, or at least knocked into the ghosts, forcing them back to tangibility, which would then still destroy the planet! Danny's plan was equally as flawed as Vlad's, and should have failed based on their own rules. It's just more proof of a botch job at shotgun-ending the series. Call it SeasonalRot, but I call Shenanigans.
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**** I may be late to the game, but I don't see how the "biggest issue" with the asteroid was only how it began hurdling toward earth. I think the biggest issue is the fact that it was anti-ghost, and therefore designed specifically so ghosts can't, you know, phase through it. When you establish a fundamental rule in a series' universe, you can't build a whole episode's (let alone the series finale's) solution upon breaking it, without ANY explanation! I'd have even accepted some ReversePolarity bullshit. The meteor should have collided with them anyway, or at least knocked into the ghosts, forcing them back to tangibility, which would then still destroy the planet! Danny's plan was equally as flawed as Vlad's, and should have failed based on their own rules. It's just more proof of a botch job at shotgun-ending the series. Call it SeasonalRot, but I call Shenanigans. Shenanigans.
***** All they ever said about Ectoranium was that ghost's couldn't TOUCH it. They never said anything about not being able to phase through it.
***** All they ever said about Ectoranium was that ghost's couldn't TOUCH it. They never said anything about not being able to phase through it.
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* [[TechnoBabble The accident caused his DNA to mix with ectoplasm which gave him the ability to transform into a ghost alterego with super powers]], [[SarcasmMode it all makes sense]].
* There is a type of ghostly phenomenon called a "ghost of the living", also known as a doppelganger. A doppelganger is, according to Wikipedia (and we all know [[UnreliableNarrator how accurate Wikipedia can be]]), a paranormal duplicate of a living person. I have heard that in one case, a doppelganger was spotted with hair and eye colour that was the inverse of the real person. Perhaps, in Danny's case, he ''became'' a doppelganger instead of one being created? It would mean that technically he's still alive ''and'' a ghost at the same time.
* There is a type of ghostly phenomenon called a "ghost of the living", also known as a doppelganger. A doppelganger is, according to Wikipedia (and we all know [[UnreliableNarrator how accurate Wikipedia can be]]), a paranormal duplicate of a living person. I have heard that in one case, a doppelganger was spotted with hair and eye colour that was the inverse of the real person. Perhaps, in Danny's case, he ''became'' a doppelganger instead of one being created? It would mean that technically he's still alive ''and'' a ghost at the same time.
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* [[TechnoBabble The accident caused his DNA to mix with ectoplasm which gave him the ability to transform into a ghost alterego alter-ego with super powers]], [[SarcasmMode it all makes sense]].
* There is a type of ghostly phenomenon called a "ghost of the living", also known as a doppelganger. A doppelganger is, according to Wikipedia (and we all know [[UnreliableNarrator how accurate Wikipedia can be]]), a paranormal duplicate of a living person. I have heard that in one case, a doppelganger was spotted with hair and eyecolour color that was the inverse of the real person. Perhaps, in Danny's case, he ''became'' a doppelganger instead of one being created? It would mean that technically he's still alive ''and'' a ghost at the same time.
* There is a type of ghostly phenomenon called a "ghost of the living", also known as a doppelganger. A doppelganger is, according to Wikipedia (and we all know [[UnreliableNarrator how accurate Wikipedia can be]]), a paranormal duplicate of a living person. I have heard that in one case, a doppelganger was spotted with hair and eye
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*** Actually, it was 500 billion, but the point still stands. What exactly does he need cash for, he's a billionare. Plus world domination seems out of character for him as well. Since when has he ever wanted to rule the world? And if that's the case, he could have come up with better than hold the world hostage over a meteor barrel without checking to see what it was made out of.(WHO in the heck doesn't check to see what a glowing green meteor is made out of?) Who are you and what have you done with my favorite character?
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*** Actually, it was 500 billion, but the point still stands. What exactly does he need cash for, he's a billionare.billionaire. Plus world domination seems out of character for him as well. Since when has he ever wanted to rule the world? And if that's the case, he could have come up with better than hold the world hostage over a meteor barrel without checking to see what it was made out of.(WHO in the heck doesn't check to see what a glowing green meteor is made out of?) Who are you and what have you done with my favorite character?
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* I've never seen Phantom Planet, so can't say much about that one, but as for The Ultimate Enemy, while the evil future Danny that we see gets his StartOfDarkness from the Nasty Burger incident, it's not enough to nullify his existance when it's stopped. So yes, even though Danny knows how it happened *that time* it's not to say that he doesn't become evil on his own, or through some other events. Dan Phantom even said himself "Don't you get it? ''I'' still exist. That means ''you'' still turn into me." Since the series never went 20 (10?) years into the future we don't see exactly how this happens, but we do see when Danny gets his ghost half ripped out that it may be malevolent (Seeing as how the first thing it does is tear the ghost out of Vlad.) Nothing says that he couldn't just get taken over by his ghost half or separated some other way, and do the same thing.
** To Phantom being malevolent, think back to Identity Crisis. What was Phantom like then? Super Danny. What was Super Danny's self-concept? [[LargeHam "FULL-TIME SUPER HERO!!!"]] What was Vlad before Dark Dan? The epitome of Phantom's known evils. That scene was an unrestricted Super Danny trying to disarm the greatest perceived threat to humanity... and the merger was an accident when he (for whatever reason) tried to overshadow Plasmius. Perhaps Super Danny was trying to destroy Plasmius from within? Take his power as it was assumed, so as to be more effective at heroics? Case of [[IdiotBall sudden]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero stupidity]]? At any rate, the exact Start of Darkness was at the instant the hair went firey.
** To Phantom being malevolent, think back to Identity Crisis. What was Phantom like then? Super Danny. What was Super Danny's self-concept? [[LargeHam "FULL-TIME SUPER HERO!!!"]] What was Vlad before Dark Dan? The epitome of Phantom's known evils. That scene was an unrestricted Super Danny trying to disarm the greatest perceived threat to humanity... and the merger was an accident when he (for whatever reason) tried to overshadow Plasmius. Perhaps Super Danny was trying to destroy Plasmius from within? Take his power as it was assumed, so as to be more effective at heroics? Case of [[IdiotBall sudden]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero stupidity]]? At any rate, the exact Start of Darkness was at the instant the hair went firey.
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* I've never seen Phantom Planet, so can't say much about that one, but as for The Ultimate Enemy, while the evil future Danny that we see gets his StartOfDarkness from the Nasty Burger incident, it's not enough to nullify his existance existence when it's stopped. So yes, even though Danny knows how it happened *that time* it's not to say that he doesn't become evil on his own, or through some other events. Dan Phantom even said himself "Don't you get it? ''I'' still exist. That means ''you'' still turn into me." Since the series never went 20 (10?) years into the future we don't see exactly how this happens, but we do see when Danny gets his ghost half ripped out that it may be malevolent (Seeing as how the first thing it does is tear the ghost out of Vlad.) Nothing says that he couldn't just get taken over by his ghost half or separated some other way, and do the same thing.
** To Phantom being malevolent, think back to Identity Crisis. What was Phantom like then? Super Danny. What was Super Danny's self-concept? [[LargeHam "FULL-TIME SUPER HERO!!!"]] What was Vlad before Dark Dan? The epitome of Phantom's known evils. That scene was an unrestricted Super Danny trying to disarm the greatest perceived threat to humanity... and the merger was an accident when he (for whatever reason) tried to overshadow Plasmius. Perhaps Super Danny was trying to destroy Plasmius from within? Take his power as it was assumed, so as to be more effective at heroics? Case of [[IdiotBall sudden]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero stupidity]]? At any rate, the exact Start of Darkness was at the instant the hair wentfirey.fiery.
** To Phantom being malevolent, think back to Identity Crisis. What was Phantom like then? Super Danny. What was Super Danny's self-concept? [[LargeHam "FULL-TIME SUPER HERO!!!"]] What was Vlad before Dark Dan? The epitome of Phantom's known evils. That scene was an unrestricted Super Danny trying to disarm the greatest perceived threat to humanity... and the merger was an accident when he (for whatever reason) tried to overshadow Plasmius. Perhaps Super Danny was trying to destroy Plasmius from within? Take his power as it was assumed, so as to be more effective at heroics? Case of [[IdiotBall sudden]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero stupidity]]? At any rate, the exact Start of Darkness was at the instant the hair went
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* It may be (as mentioned in a post I made above) that, just as his hair and eyes changed colour color from (what I call) the "doppelganger effect", his skin tone was also changed. Obviously not as severely as the other two traits, but with the doppelganger I heard about, both duplicate and original were Caucasian women in their mid-twenties. (I can't remember if the blonde was the original or the duplicate though.)
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** I think the explanation is that it split Danny's emotions as well (Fun!Danny was not like the original either). Also, The second time Danny's emotions were again forcefully split apart, and he was not is a good stat of mind. All the good went into the human half, the bad into the ghost half. Most ghosts in the show are show extreme negative emotion (Anger, sadness (when dora first appeared) and obsession).
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** I think the explanation is that it split Danny's emotions as well (Fun!Danny was not like the original either). Also, The second time Danny's emotions were again forcefully split apart, and he was not is a good stat of mind. All the good went into the human half, the bad into the ghost half. Most ghosts in the show are show extreme negative emotion (Anger, sadness (when dora Dora first appeared) and obsession).
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** I have my own theory thtat makes a it more sense, he's Danny's best friend. Nothing more. Consider how Tucker is easily corrupted by power, I have to agree he's not the ideal choice.
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** I think the 'going through in reverse' thing was more related to time apart then anything else, while the separate personalities is more plot specific and the lack of duplication to tucker is likely due to how they were each fuzed; Danny by a tear in the fabric of space-time with the possible side of 'ecoplasmic imprinting' where the 'ghost' bits of Danny became so connected to him over the years and heavy usage that they started emulating him no matter what, and Tucker by a genie.
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** I think the 'going through in reverse' thing was more related to time apart then anything else, while the separate personalities is more plot specific and the lack of duplication to tucker is likely due to how they were each fuzed; Danny by a tear in the fabric of space-time with the possible side of 'ecoplasmic 'ectoplasmic imprinting' where the 'ghost' bits of Danny became so connected to him over the years and heavy usage that they started emulating him no matter what, and Tucker by a genie.
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Ok so how exactly does this work. Danny has been able to phase through matter, and grab something at the same time (ie:fishing for a book from his bag/locker without opening it) but that makes no sense, you can't grab something if you're intangible, like in what way could this be explained off?
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Ok so how exactly does this work. Danny has been able to phase through matter, and grab something at the same time (ie:fishing (i.e.:fishing for a book from his bag/locker without opening it) but that makes no sense, you can't grab something if you're intangible, like in what way could this be explained off?
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* To me it seemed like a "She knows too much" situation--Vlad is clearly surprised that Danny and Jazz seem to know each other (or maybe I'm misremembering?). The point is that Jazz (raised by ghost hunting fanatics) has suddenly seen Vlad associating with a bounty hunter ghost. And Danny might say something to her that would raise red flags, if they weren't already up. Basically, he had nothing ''specific'', but he did have a reason to think she might turn on him, even though it might not have been her fault.
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**Dark Danny kind of [[LampshadeHanging hangs a lampshade on the idea]] in TUE, when he's mocking Jack and Maddie for not making the connection.
-->'''Dark Danny''': "Hell-O! Danny FENTON? Danny PHANTOM? ...Ever notice a similarity?"
**Dark Danny kind of [[LampshadeHanging hangs a lampshade on the idea]] in TUE, when he's mocking Jack and Maddie for not making the connection.
-->'''Dark Danny''': "Hell-O! Danny FENTON? Danny PHANTOM? ...Ever notice a similarity?"
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* It may be (as mentioned in a post I made above) that, just as his hair and eyes changed colour from (what I call) the "doppelganger effect", his skin tone was also changed. Obviously not as severely as the other two traits, but with the doppelganger I heard about, both duplicate and original were Caucasian women in their mid-twenties. (I can't remember if the blonde was the original or the duplicate though.)
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* There is a type of ghostly phenomenon called a "ghost of the living", also known as a doppelganger. A doppelganger is, according to Wikipedia (and we all know [[UnreliableNarrator how accurate Wikipedia can be]]), a paranormal duplicate of a living person. I have heard that in one case, a doppelganger was spotted with hair and eye colour that was the inverse of the real person. Perhaps, in Danny's case, he ''became'' a doppelganger instead of one being created? It would mean that technically he's still alive ''and'' a ghost at the same time.
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[[WMG: How come noone makes the connection Between Fenton and Phantom?]]
* How come no one like Dash, Paulina, or Mr. Lancer never notice that Danny Fenton and Phantom look so similarly to each other when they can get a clear facial comaprison?
* How come no one like Dash, Paulina, or Mr. Lancer never notice that Danny Fenton and Phantom look so similarly to each other when they can get a clear facial comaprison?
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[[WMG: How come noone no one makes the connection Between Fenton and Phantom?]]
* How come no onelike Dash, Paulina, or Mr. Lancer never notice that even though Danny Fenton and Phantom look so similarly to each other when they can get a clear facial comaprison?Phantoms face gets plastered on the news, none of his classmates or his parents make the connection.
* How come no one
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Rob Paulsen does a decent impersonation of Gilbert Gottfried, but anyone else thought the crew should've hired Gottfried himself? He isn't that difficult to get isn't he?
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Rob Paulsen does a decent impersonation of Gilbert Gottfried, but anyone else thought the crew should've hired Gottfried himself? He isn't that difficult to get isn't he?he?
[[WMG: How come noone makes the connection Between Fenton and Phantom?]]
* How come no one like Dash, Paulina, or Mr. Lancer never notice that Danny Fenton and Phantom look so similarly to each other when they can get a clear facial comaprison?
[[WMG: How come noone makes the connection Between Fenton and Phantom?]]
* How come no one like Dash, Paulina, or Mr. Lancer never notice that Danny Fenton and Phantom look so similarly to each other when they can get a clear facial comaprison?
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* Two possibilities come to mind: Vlad has arranged the suit to give her subconscious lessons, or Tucker just ''said'' that, hyperbolically, because he was impressed of her abilities/jealous that it wasn't okay for ''him'' to date the girl who hates DannyPhantom, but it was okay for Danny to date her himself. For a genius, Tucker is really pretty clueless; he didn't even realize she was using him. Occam's razor makes it simple that he was sour-graping, given his next line was "He better not forget their anniversary."
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* Two possibilities come to mind: Vlad has arranged the suit to give her subconscious lessons, or Tucker just ''said'' that, hyperbolically, because he was impressed of her abilities/jealous that it wasn't okay for ''him'' to date the girl who hates DannyPhantom, WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom, but it was okay for Danny to date her himself. For a genius, Tucker is really pretty clueless; he didn't even realize she was using him. Occam's razor makes it simple that he was sour-graping, given his next line was "He better not forget their anniversary."
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* His hair is beginning to turn grey. He's as old as '''Vlad.'''
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* His hair is beginning to turn grey. He's as old as '''Vlad.''''''
[[WMG: About Technus' voice actor]]
Rob Paulsen does a decent impersonation of Gilbert Gottfried, but anyone else thought the crew should've hired Gottfried himself? He isn't that difficult to get isn't he?
[[WMG: About Technus' voice actor]]
Rob Paulsen does a decent impersonation of Gilbert Gottfried, but anyone else thought the crew should've hired Gottfried himself? He isn't that difficult to get isn't he?
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I always wondered why his hair was black on top and grey on the sides.sides.
* His hair is beginning to turn grey. He's as old as '''Vlad.'''
* His hair is beginning to turn grey. He's as old as '''Vlad.'''
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* Didn't it have somthing to do with him being the new Dairy King or whatever?
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* Didn't it have somthing to do with him being the new Dairy King or whatever?whatever?
[[WMG: Does Jack wear a toupee?]]
I always wondered why his hair was black on top and grey on the sides.
[[WMG: Does Jack wear a toupee?]]
I always wondered why his hair was black on top and grey on the sides.
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*** Keep in mind that, in a way, Dark Danny is still technically Danny. He has all of his memories, clearly considers himself Danny by referring to Danny as his past self, and does have some vestiges of his past self's personality. Given [[NotSoDifferent the comparisons to Vlad]], Danny clearly had the potential to become evil...probably not as bad as [[CompleteMonster Dark Danny]], but still up there. Dark Danny works because he shows what Danny could become if he turned evil-having Vlad remove his humanity just exaggerated this.
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*** Keep in mind that, in a way, Dark Danny is still technically Danny. He has all of his memories, clearly considers himself Danny by referring to Danny as his past self, and does have some vestiges of his past self's personality. Given [[NotSoDifferent the comparisons to Vlad]], Danny clearly had the potential to become evil...probably not as bad as [[CompleteMonster Dark Danny]], Danny, but still up there. Dark Danny works because he shows what Danny could become if he turned evil-having Vlad remove his humanity just exaggerated this.
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*** Keep in mind that, in a way, Dark Danny is still technically Danny. He has all of his memories, clearly considers himself Danny by referring to Danny as his past self, and does have some vestiges of his past self's personality. Given [[NotSoDifferent the comparisons to Vlad]], Danny clearly had the potential to become evil...probably not as bad as [[CompleteMonster Dark Danny]], but still up there. Dark Danny works because he shows what Danny could become if he turned evil-having Vlad remove his humanity just exaggerated this.
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** I have my own theory thtat makes a it more sense, he's Danny's best friend. Nothing more. Consider how Tucker is easily corrupted by power, I have to agree he's not the ideal choice.
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[[WMG: Is it me, or is this show racist as all get-out? All the black people are stupid!]]
Ok, I hate to be the one to have to bring this up, but surely I can't be the only one that's noticed. This show makes a total mockery out of all the black characters! Tucker, supposedly the ''BlackBestFriend'', could've been left as smart and slightly nerdy with a bit of added comic relief, but an overall respectable and mature guy who is the voice of reason. Similar to AJ on the ''FairlyOddParents''. But no, the creators had to go and make him a total clown, and a pathetic third wheel who desperately wants Danny and Sam's approval. They even recognize his pawn status in the crew in the episode King Tuck, but instead of having him actually stand up for himself and earn their respect, they make him [[DirtyCoward cower in the corner while still being a bragadocious jerk]]. While useless in battle, he does at least have the skills with tech gadgets that help Danny out a lot. But he gets almost no credit for what he does. Instead, all the glory of being the "good sidekick" goes to Sam, who, IMHO, would be a totally useless character if she didn't serve as the romantic foil for Danny. I know I'll get some hate for that one, but I just think she's overrated and that in terms of helping Danny fight, Tucker was the real sidekick. Sam was really just a tagalong whose primary role was to nag.
And what really made me sick was the situation with Valerie and her dad. Valerie, while she was one of the rich kids, was a total sycophant to the other rich kids in the "rich kid crew". She was so ''desperate'' to get back in with them. In the episode when her dad lost his job, (was it Ultimate Enemy?) we see the dad at work... and he is a total sycophant as well. Kissing the feet of "the man" -- and you know what color ''he'' is. It also grinded my gears how Valerie wouldn't give Tucker a chance, but she was head-over-heels in love with Danny -- Why? I'm sorry, but that's a totally shallow portrayal of a black girl -- trying desparately to fit in with and be one of the whites. Plus, they give all the blacks blue or green eyes. What's up with that? I guess giving them a realistic eye color would've been [[ButNotTooBlack "offensive to some audiences"]]. It would have been nice to see some realistic, proud, respectable black characters that black fans could have identified with and enjoyed. But I guess asking for that from a supernatural show is just too much.
** Are you Chris Rock? I love your stand-up!
** I actually kind of agree with your opinion on Sam, but I think Tucker gets a fair amount of credit for his efforts when he is made ''mayor of the city at the end.'' And while Valerie has had her desperate moments, so has pretty much every other character on the show (Danny, Kwan, and Starr, for example, and none of them are African-American). On a different note, Butch Hartman wasn't trying to be racist by making everyone's eye colors different. He just doesn't particularly like brown eyes--he's said in many an interview that he finds brown eyes/hair too mainstream, and therefore doesn't use them often.
** Did you see the end of the first Ember episode where the "world" was chanting her name? That was [[NationalStereotypes racist]] lol, fake accents, stereotypical dress and stereotypical actions (Japanese woman throwing a sword, African boy inside a kangaroo with a boomerang in some outdoor place, and Dutch men with horribly fake accents in overalls River Dancing if I recall correctly). Seriously though I can empathize with you, but this is a children's show and the writers do with what they can. It's apparent that each character had their moments, some more than others we can argue, but like with most Hartman series and American Cartoons in general the show experienced {{Flanderization}}. Aside from a handful of episodes Jack was an idiot and it was "funny", Tucker was the sidekick and it was "funny", Mr. Lancer was clueless and it was "funny." Paulina was (originally) an object to be acquired and had little personality outside of that and it was "funny." Star, Dash, and Kwan were walking Jock/Popular stereotypes with no personality and it was "funny." I mention ALL of these characters because they essentially are the entire supporting cast, save for Jazz and Maddy who of course being closest to Danny cannot be incompetent. In fact I felt the show didn't really give favorable treatment to anyone outside of Danny, Sam, and Jazz (and Sam only being for the very reason you said) and even these three were flanderized at some point to drive the plot. But it's a Children's show, I did expect Tucker to be a bit more like [[FairlyOddParents AJ]] but I guess the writers weren't going for that.
Ok, I hate to be the one to have to bring this up, but surely I can't be the only one that's noticed. This show makes a total mockery out of all the black characters! Tucker, supposedly the ''BlackBestFriend'', could've been left as smart and slightly nerdy with a bit of added comic relief, but an overall respectable and mature guy who is the voice of reason. Similar to AJ on the ''FairlyOddParents''. But no, the creators had to go and make him a total clown, and a pathetic third wheel who desperately wants Danny and Sam's approval. They even recognize his pawn status in the crew in the episode King Tuck, but instead of having him actually stand up for himself and earn their respect, they make him [[DirtyCoward cower in the corner while still being a bragadocious jerk]]. While useless in battle, he does at least have the skills with tech gadgets that help Danny out a lot. But he gets almost no credit for what he does. Instead, all the glory of being the "good sidekick" goes to Sam, who, IMHO, would be a totally useless character if she didn't serve as the romantic foil for Danny. I know I'll get some hate for that one, but I just think she's overrated and that in terms of helping Danny fight, Tucker was the real sidekick. Sam was really just a tagalong whose primary role was to nag.
And what really made me sick was the situation with Valerie and her dad. Valerie, while she was one of the rich kids, was a total sycophant to the other rich kids in the "rich kid crew". She was so ''desperate'' to get back in with them. In the episode when her dad lost his job, (was it Ultimate Enemy?) we see the dad at work... and he is a total sycophant as well. Kissing the feet of "the man" -- and you know what color ''he'' is. It also grinded my gears how Valerie wouldn't give Tucker a chance, but she was head-over-heels in love with Danny -- Why? I'm sorry, but that's a totally shallow portrayal of a black girl -- trying desparately to fit in with and be one of the whites. Plus, they give all the blacks blue or green eyes. What's up with that? I guess giving them a realistic eye color would've been [[ButNotTooBlack "offensive to some audiences"]]. It would have been nice to see some realistic, proud, respectable black characters that black fans could have identified with and enjoyed. But I guess asking for that from a supernatural show is just too much.
** Are you Chris Rock? I love your stand-up!
** I actually kind of agree with your opinion on Sam, but I think Tucker gets a fair amount of credit for his efforts when he is made ''mayor of the city at the end.'' And while Valerie has had her desperate moments, so has pretty much every other character on the show (Danny, Kwan, and Starr, for example, and none of them are African-American). On a different note, Butch Hartman wasn't trying to be racist by making everyone's eye colors different. He just doesn't particularly like brown eyes--he's said in many an interview that he finds brown eyes/hair too mainstream, and therefore doesn't use them often.
** Did you see the end of the first Ember episode where the "world" was chanting her name? That was [[NationalStereotypes racist]] lol, fake accents, stereotypical dress and stereotypical actions (Japanese woman throwing a sword, African boy inside a kangaroo with a boomerang in some outdoor place, and Dutch men with horribly fake accents in overalls River Dancing if I recall correctly). Seriously though I can empathize with you, but this is a children's show and the writers do with what they can. It's apparent that each character had their moments, some more than others we can argue, but like with most Hartman series and American Cartoons in general the show experienced {{Flanderization}}. Aside from a handful of episodes Jack was an idiot and it was "funny", Tucker was the sidekick and it was "funny", Mr. Lancer was clueless and it was "funny." Paulina was (originally) an object to be acquired and had little personality outside of that and it was "funny." Star, Dash, and Kwan were walking Jock/Popular stereotypes with no personality and it was "funny." I mention ALL of these characters because they essentially are the entire supporting cast, save for Jazz and Maddy who of course being closest to Danny cannot be incompetent. In fact I felt the show didn't really give favorable treatment to anyone outside of Danny, Sam, and Jazz (and Sam only being for the very reason you said) and even these three were flanderized at some point to drive the plot. But it's a Children's show, I did expect Tucker to be a bit more like [[FairlyOddParents AJ]] but I guess the writers weren't going for that.
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Ok, I hate to be the one to have to bring this up, but surely I can't be the only one that's noticed. This show makes a total mockery out of all the black characters! Tucker, supposedly the ''BlackBestFriend'', could've been left as smart and slightly nerdy with a bit of added comic relief, but an overall respectable and mature guy who is the voice of reason. Similar to AJ on the ''FairlyOddParents''. But no, the creators had to go and make him a total clown, and a pathetic third wheel who desperately wants Danny and Sam's approval. They even recognize his pawn status in the crew in the episode King Tuck, but instead of having him actually stand up for himself and earn their respect, they make him [[DirtyCoward cower in the corner while still being a bragadocious jerk]]. While useless in battle, he does at least have the skills with tech gadgets that help Danny out a lot. But he gets almost no credit for what he does. Instead, all the glory of being the "good sidekick" goes to Sam, who, IMHO, would be a totally useless character if she didn't serve as the romantic foil for Danny. I know I'll get some hate for that one, but I just think she's overrated and that in terms of helping Danny fight, Tucker was the real sidekick. Sam was really just a tagalong whose primary role was to nag.
And what really made me sick was the situation with Valerie and her dad. Valerie, while she was one of the rich kids, was a total sycophant to the other rich kids in the "rich kid crew". She was so ''desperate'' to get back in with them. In the episode when her dad lost his job, (was it Ultimate Enemy?) we see the dad at work... and he is a total sycophant as well. Kissing the feet of "the man" -- and you know what color ''he'' is. It also grinded my gears how Valerie wouldn't give Tucker a chance, but she was head-over-heels in love with Danny -- Why? I'm sorry, but that's a totally shallow portrayal of a black girl -- trying desparately to fit in with and be one of the whites. Plus, they give all the blacks blue or green eyes. What's up with that? I guess giving them a realistic eye color would've been [[ButNotTooBlack "offensive to some audiences"]]. It would have been nice to see some realistic, proud, respectable black characters that black fans could have identified with and enjoyed. But I guess asking for that from a supernatural show is just too much.
** Are you Chris Rock? I love your stand-up!
** I actually kind of agree with your opinion on Sam, but I think Tucker gets a fair amount of credit for his efforts when he is made ''mayor of the city at the end.'' And while Valerie has had her desperate moments, so has pretty much every other character on the show (Danny, Kwan, and Starr, for example, and none of them are African-American). On a different note, Butch Hartman wasn't trying to be racist by making everyone's eye colors different. He just doesn't particularly like brown eyes--he's said in many an interview that he finds brown eyes/hair too mainstream, and therefore doesn't use them often.
** Did you see the end of the first Ember episode where the "world" was chanting her name? That was [[NationalStereotypes racist]] lol, fake accents, stereotypical dress and stereotypical actions (Japanese woman throwing a sword, African boy inside a kangaroo with a boomerang in some outdoor place, and Dutch men with horribly fake accents in overalls River Dancing if I recall correctly). Seriously though I can empathize with you, but this is a children's show and the writers do with what they can. It's apparent that each character had their moments, some more than others we can argue, but like with most Hartman series and American Cartoons in general the show experienced {{Flanderization}}. Aside from a handful of episodes Jack was an idiot and it was "funny", Tucker was the sidekick and it was "funny", Mr. Lancer was clueless and it was "funny." Paulina was (originally) an object to be acquired and had little personality outside of that and it was "funny." Star, Dash, and Kwan were walking Jock/Popular stereotypes with no personality and it was "funny." I mention ALL of these characters because they essentially are the entire supporting cast, save for Jazz and Maddy who of course being closest to Danny cannot be incompetent. In fact I felt the show didn't really give favorable treatment to anyone outside of Danny, Sam, and Jazz (and Sam only being for the very reason you said) and even these three were flanderized at some point to drive the plot. But it's a Children's show, I did expect Tucker to be a bit more like [[FairlyOddParents AJ]] but I guess the writers weren't going for that.
