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* The movie's overabundance of animal scares. Where do all those animals keep coming from? I know that there was a science lab on the colony, and labs tend to use animals for test subjects, but why are there so many of them running around? You'd think they were in a zoo or something, with all the instances where dogs, rodents, even monkeys keep showing up. It's not even brought up in ''Doom 3'', so why did the filmmakers feel the need to put so many of them in the movie?
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** There's also a different possibility. The chaingun and the original Gatling were guns designed to use in an open space, either to mow down a large number of opponents or to provide a massive barrage of protective cover. The Doom chaingun, however, seems to be a bit different weapon - it's portable and a single person can fire it while carrying it without being thrown back by a massive recoil, to begin with - something designed for providing a massive firepower in a confined space, against the enemies that are much smaller in numbers but more sturdy, where both accuracy and rate-of-fire control is critical - it's essentially an upgraded machine gun.
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*** Yes, the above is correct. It's hard to tell looking at the actual box, but if you look at [[http://dudelol.com/oldimgs/high-resolution-doom-cover-art.jpg a high resolution version]], you can clearly see that ab spot has been torn away.

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*** Yes, the above is correct. It's hard to tell looking at the actual box, but if you look at [[http://dudelol.com/oldimgs/high-resolution-doom-cover-art.jpg a high resolution version]], you can clearly see that ab spot has been torn away. And the guy in the background has an identical uniform, and his abs are covered.
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** My thoughts exactly. You aren't inviting them over for tea and biscuits, you're wreckin' they shit with a Big, Fancy Gun. In fact, I remember reading somewhere that Doomguy is a devout catholic. On the other hand, CowboyBebopAtHisComputer. Mummy takes one look at little Timmy playing SuperUltraChainsawGorefestThreeThousand with diabolic imagery to boot and freaks right out.

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** My thoughts exactly. You aren't inviting them over for tea and biscuits, you're wreckin' they shit with a Big, Fancy Gun. In fact, I remember reading somewhere that Doomguy is a devout catholic. On the other hand, CowboyBebopAtHisComputer. Mummy takes one look at little Timmy playing SuperUltraChainsawGorefestThreeThousand {{Ultra Super Death Gore Fest Chainsawer 3000}} with diabolic imagery to boot and freaks right out.
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** My thoughts exactly. You aren't inviting them over for tea and biscuits, you're wreckin' they shit with a Big, Fancy Gun. In fact, I remember reading somewhere that Doomguy is a devout catholic. On the other hand, CowboyBebopAtHisComputer. Mummy takes one look at little Timmy playing SuperUltraChainsawGorefestThreeThousand with diabolic imagery to boot and freaks right out.
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* All the controversy surrounding the original game. Yes, it's violent and bloody, but why would Christians be offended by the presence of demons and Satanic imagery? On its own, I can understand why it would be offensive, except I'm pretty sure that these games are all about ''destroying'' that sort of stuff, so shouldn't they be ''praising'' the fact that you get to slaughter the Devil's minions instead of being one of them? If anything, I'd expect the ''Satanists'' to be the ones up in arms about the game.
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** If you think about it, the Hell of Doom probably isn't the exact same Hell we're thinking of (the Abrahamic place of eternal torment for sinners). What's referred to as Hell is really another dimension of beings that have been to Earth before and seek to reclaim their long lost home from humanity, and have haunted the nightmares of man since the beginning. Of course, that's just a theory. A GameTheory.

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** If you think about it, the Hell of Doom probably isn't the exact same Hell we're thinking of (the Abrahamic place of eternal torment for sinners). What's referred to as Hell is really another dimension of beings that have been to Earth before and seek to reclaim their long lost home from humanity, and have haunted the nightmares of man since the beginning. Of course, that's just a theory. A GameTheory.[[WebVideo/GameTheoryWebShow Game Theory]].
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*** No-one remembers that, though, since no-one cared about co-op in FPS until ''{{Halo}}'' "invented" it.

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*** No-one remembers that, though, since no-one cared about co-op in FPS until ''{{Halo}}'' ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' "invented" it.
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** Sergeant Kelly seems to have been possessed from the start of the attack. When you have a brief video encounter with him outside marine command, his eyes are noticeably grey and it doesn't exactly look like he's defending against a horde of demons. Likewise, at one point, Specialist Wilson comes on the radio saying "...my team are all dead, I'm running blind here! What are my orders?" Sergeant Kelly responds "...Head back to your last ''known'' CP... ''We'll'' find you". Gives me shivers every time.

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** Sergeant Kelly seems to have been possessed from the start of the attack. When you have a brief video encounter with him outside marine command, his eyes are noticeably grey and it doesn't exactly look like he's defending against a horde of demons. Likewise, at one point, Specialist Wilson comes on the radio saying "...my team are all dead, I'm running blind here! What are my orders?" Sergeant Kelly responds "...Head back move to your last ''known'' CP...''known'RP... ''We'll'' find you". Gives me shivers every time.
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** Speaking of which, Why can you breath on Mars? It's quite clear that the Marine has a helmet like Classic Doomguy... That and explosive decompression would happen pretty quickly.

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** Well they never say that Hell is actually where dead souls go. It's possible hell is literally just full of demons.

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** Well they never say that Hell is actually where dead souls go. It's possible hell is literally just full of demons. demons.
**If you think about it, the Hell of Doom probably isn't the exact same Hell we're thinking of (the Abrahamic place of eternal torment for sinners). What's referred to as Hell is really another dimension of beings that have been to Earth before and seek to reclaim their long lost home from humanity, and have haunted the nightmares of man since the beginning. Of course, that's just a theory. A GameTheory.
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** Well they never say that Hell is actually where dead souls go. It's possible hell is literally just full of demons.
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*** Maybe John had always been the demons and Cernel Joson had always known. Or maybe John was insane and imagined the whole thing.
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** Engine limitations most likely. Just like how Phobos didn't have Mars and the stars as its' background, but rather earthlike mountains and skies. A wasted opportunity most likely but there are demons to kill so most people probably wouldn't give the sky more than a cursory glance.

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** Engine limitations most likely.Game design decisions probably. Just like how Phobos didn't have Mars and the stars as its' background, but rather earthlike mountains and skies. A wasted opportunity most likely but there are demons to kill everywhere so most people probably wouldn't give the sky more than a cursory glance.
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** Engine limitations most likely. Just like how Phobos didn't have Mars and the stars as its' background, but rather earthlike mountains and skies. A wasted opportunity most likely but there are demons to kill so most people probably wouldn't give the sky more than a cursory glance.
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* ''Doom 64'' included a few changes to enemy appearances and sounds that can get more than a bit confusing. For one, both pistol and shotgun zombies are modeled after the pistol zombie from Classic Doom, with only their firing sounds and death drops to tell them apart. The cacodemon's resemblance to Classic pain elementals is also questionable, but at least their version of pain elementals look different. Meanwhile, the random assortment of "roaming" sounds that most demonic enemies use are recognizably similar to the ''alert'' sounds of Classic zombies.
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** Maybe Hell is what makes bad people bad, there won't ''be'' any more bad people, now that Hell is gone.
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** It's an extendable shoulder stock so he can brace the gun while he's firing.

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** It's an extendable shoulder stock so he Doomguy can brace the gun while he's firing.

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**** Oh, really? The guy I talked to about this is an avid Doom aficionado, and he can only remember the one reference. What, exactly, was the other one?
***** In the first novel there was one reference to demon penis. It's basically as your friend describes:

@@The entire room was constructed of that black, oily, ulcerating wood. There was one object in the @@room, placed at dead center: a bas relief of a demonic monster more horrible, or more ridiculous, than@@ @@any we'd fought. Every physical attribute of the thing was exaggerated so that it almost seemed to be a@@ @@cartoon. The largest protuberance of all was its penis, sticking out at a 45-degree angle.@@
@@"They've got to be kidding," said Arlene.@@
@@"I hate to bring it up, but that's probably another switch," I suggested.@@
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**** *** Oh, really? The guy I talked to about this is an avid Doom aficionado, and he can only remember the one reference. What, exactly, was the other one?
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***** Here's the other one, in a later section entirely. Never mind that it reads like a different version of the same one:

@@The wall had a switch, a full-body bas relief of a cloven-hoofed alien. And it wasn't his tongue that@@ @@required flicking. My face flushed. "Um, you'd better take this one, PFC Sanders.@@
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** This troper always interpreted it as going back to Earth, and he mentioned it on the main page until it was deleted for {{Natter}}. Basically, McNeil said "Welcome, ''home''", not paradise, not "a better place", just ''home''. So, going back to Earth is probably the most logical conclusion. And it's not like it's impossible. McNeil disabled life support to power the teleporters, and the Doomguy in Doom 3 managed to get back from Hell, so it's possible RoE Doomguy teleported back to Mars, and then him and McNeil simply teleported back to where their ships are and left for Earth. Why id didn't [[ShowDontTell show it]], however, is [[FridgeLogic beyond me]].

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** This troper always interpreted it as going back to Earth, and he mentioned it on the main page until it was deleted for {{Natter}}.Administrivia/{{Natter}}. Basically, McNeil said "Welcome, ''home''", not paradise, not "a better place", just ''home''. So, going back to Earth is probably the most logical conclusion. And it's not like it's impossible. McNeil disabled life support to power the teleporters, and the Doomguy in Doom 3 managed to get back from Hell, so it's possible RoE Doomguy teleported back to Mars, and then him and McNeil simply teleported back to where their ships are and left for Earth. Why id didn't [[ShowDontTell show it]], however, is [[FridgeLogic beyond me]].
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** They do have [[FatBastard mancubi]] though. Close, but not quite.


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** Given the moons in-game have more or less earthlike gravity, one would assume they have some unmentioned form of ArtificalGravity, which might allow development of a meager atmosphere.
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** I did think up a decent in-universe excuse, if nothing else. Classic Doom is set om the moons of Mars, so even on the planet itself you'd expect a thin atmosphere, if any. A gatling design allows you to maintain a given rate of fire with less heat buildup, which might offset the difficulty in keeping it air-cooled. Even assuming whatever's giving the moons earthlike gravity is also maintaining any atmoshere, a normal SMG with that rate of fire might overheat too quickly.
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** I guess I'm the only person who considered the idea that the main character died, hence the white light.

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*** The fact that the demons continue to attack Doomguy after he gets the transmission card makes this even more of a Headscratcher, due to the continued occurence of seemingly contradictory actions. There could be a couple reasons why:
**** 1. The demons either aren't actually intelligent life forms or are intelligent but weren't made aware of Betruger's endgame yet, so they attacked the Marines because they were humans and thus the enemy. Doomguy was, thus, sent in as backup should Bravo Team fall.
**** 2. Betruger was utilizing a XanatosGambit. The Bravo Team was needed because (being humans) they were the only ones that can create the transmission message and store it on a card. Kelly then sent Bravo Tram (and afterwards, Doomguy) toward the communications tower through demon infested territory. If the marines were killed, the demons can obtain the transmission card and allow Betruger to send the message, with the added benefit of the marines being killed and thus removing all potential theats on the base (this was the optimal result, which is why the demons attacked and killed Bravo Team and continued to attack and try to kill Doomguy). If the marines suceeded, they will still play into Betruger's plans and Betruger will kill them later. That means that no matter what happens, the marines will die and the transmission gets sent. Only after Doomguy survives the gas attack that Betruger's plans start getting screwed.
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*** The fact that the demons continue to attack Doomguy after he gets the transmission card makes this even more of a Headscratcher, due to the continued occurence of seemingly contradictory actions. There could be a couple reasons why:
**** 1. The demons either aren't actually intelligent life forms or are intelligent but weren't made aware
I think I might've thought of Betruger's endgame yet, so they attacked the Marines because they were humans and thus the enemy. Doomguy was, thus, sent in as backup should Bravo Team fall.
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a reason why: Betruger was utilizing a XanatosGambit. The Bravo Team was needed because (being intelligent humans using technology designed for humans) they were the only ones that can create the transmission message and store it on a card.card (Kelly and Betruger were in the Delta Labs, and a military transmission card probably could only be created and obtained from Marine Command HQ). Kelly then sent Bravo Tram (and afterwards, Doomguy) toward the communications tower through demon infested territory. If the marines were killed, the demons can would obtain the transmission card and allow Betruger to send the message, with the added benefit of the marines being killed and thus removing all potential theats on the base (this was the optimal result, which is why the demons attacked and killed Bravo Team and continued to attack and try to kill Doomguy).Doomguy after he got the card). If the marines suceeded, they will still play into Betruger's plans and Betruger will kill them later. That means that no matter what happens, the marines will die and the transmission gets sent. Only after Doomguy survives the gas attack that Betruger's plans start getting screwed.
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**** 1. The demons either aren't actually intelligent life forms or are intelligent but weren't made aware of Betruger's endgame yet, so they attacked the Marines because they were humans and thus the enemy.
**** 2. Betruger only needed Doomguy to send the transmission. After Betruger saw how Doomguy plowed through the opposition, he decided to use him as an UnwittingPawn and let Doomguy carry out the transmission instead of Bravo Team. After all, one marine should be much easier to deal with than a whole squad. So the demons wiped out Bravo Team in an ambush to allow Doomguy to get the transmission card instead (the reason Bravo Team made it as far as they did was merely because Betruger was using them instead of Doomguy, all the way until Doomguy caught his eye and he changed his mind). The demons attacking Doomguy were merely distractions to keep Doomguy from suspecting anything (Betruger probably was utilizing a BatmanGambit by assuming that Doomguy can make it through his hordes alive based on previous feats). Betruger is able to send the transmission himself by copying the message that Doomguy uploaded when he put the transmission card in the communications tower, and can send it should Doomguy not do it. Afterwards, Betruger would direct Doomguy to the Recycling Plant to suffocate him, but Doomguy escapes.

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**** 1. The demons either aren't actually intelligent life forms or are intelligent but weren't made aware of Betruger's endgame yet, so they attacked the Marines because they were humans and thus the enemy.
enemy. Doomguy was, thus, sent in as backup should Bravo Team fall.
**** 2. Betruger only was utilizing a XanatosGambit. The Bravo Team was needed Doomguy to send because (being humans) they were the transmission. After Betruger saw how Doomguy plowed through the opposition, he decided to use him as an UnwittingPawn and let Doomguy carry out only ones that can create the transmission instead of message and store it on a card. Kelly then sent Bravo Team. After all, one marine should be much easier to deal with than a whole squad. So Tram (and afterwards, Doomguy) toward the communications tower through demon infested territory. If the marines were killed, the demons wiped out Bravo Team in an ambush to allow Doomguy to get can obtain the transmission card instead (the reason and allow Betruger to send the message, with the added benefit of the marines being killed and thus removing all potential theats on the base (this was the optimal result, which is why the demons attacked and killed Bravo Team made it as far as and continued to attack and try to kill Doomguy). If the marines suceeded, they did was merely because will still play into Betruger's plans and Betruger was using will kill them instead of Doomguy, all the way until Doomguy caught his eye and he changed his mind). The demons attacking Doomguy were merely distractions to keep Doomguy from suspecting anything (Betruger probably was utilizing a BatmanGambit by assuming later. That means that Doomguy can make it through his hordes alive based on previous feats). Betruger is able to send no matter what happens, the marines will die and the transmission himself by copying the message that gets sent. Only after Doomguy uploaded when he put survives the transmission card in the communications tower, and can send it should Doomguy not do it. Afterwards, Betruger would direct Doomguy to the Recycling Plant to suffocate him, but Doomguy escapes.gas attack that Betruger's plans start getting screwed.
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*** Probably for the same reason the demons continued to attack the Doomguy after he got the transmission card despite the transmission being critical to Betruger's plans. The reason could be:

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*** Probably for the same reason The fact that the demons continued continue to attack the Doomguy after he got gets the transmission card despite makes this even more of a Headscratcher, due to the transmission being critical to Betruger's plans. The reason continued occurence of seemingly contradictory actions. There could be:be a couple reasons why:



**** 2. Betruger only needed one Marine to send the transmission, so when Doomguy managed to get close to Bravo Team, Bravo Team was led into a ambush so there was only Doomguy to deal with later, and not Doomguy+backup (which is also probably why Bravo Team bites the dust literally right before Doomguy catches up). The demons attacking Doomguy were merely distractions to keep Doomguy from suspecting anything (Betruger probably was utilizing a BatmanGambit by assuming that Doomguy can make it through his hordes alive seeing as how he plowed through the opposition thus far). Betruger is able to send the transmission himself by copying the message that Doomguy uploaded when he put the transmission card in the communications tower, and can send it should Doomguy not do it.

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**** 2. Betruger only needed one Marine Doomguy to send the transmission, so when transmission. After Betruger saw how Doomguy managed plowed through the opposition, he decided to get close to Bravo Team, Bravo Team was led into a ambush so there was only use him as an UnwittingPawn and let Doomguy carry out the transmission instead of Bravo Team. After all, one marine should be much easier to deal with later, and not Doomguy+backup (which is also probably why than a whole squad. So the demons wiped out Bravo Team bites the dust literally right before in an ambush to allow Doomguy catches up). to get the transmission card instead (the reason Bravo Team made it as far as they did was merely because Betruger was using them instead of Doomguy, all the way until Doomguy caught his eye and he changed his mind). The demons attacking Doomguy were merely distractions to keep Doomguy from suspecting anything (Betruger probably was utilizing a BatmanGambit by assuming that Doomguy can make it through his hordes alive seeing as how he plowed through the opposition thus far).based on previous feats). Betruger is able to send the transmission himself by copying the message that Doomguy uploaded when he put the transmission card in the communications tower, and can send it should Doomguy not do it. Afterwards, Betruger would direct Doomguy to the Recycling Plant to suffocate him, but Doomguy escapes.
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*** Probably for the same reason the demons continued to attack the Doomguy after he got the transmission card despite the transmission being critical to Betruger's plans. The reason could be:
**** 1. The demons either aren't actually intelligent life forms or are intelligent but weren't made aware of Betruger's endgame yet, so they attacked the Marines because they were humans and thus the enemy.
**** 2. Betruger only needed one Marine to send the transmission, so when Doomguy managed to get close to Bravo Team, Bravo Team was led into a ambush so there was only Doomguy to deal with later, and not Doomguy+backup (which is also probably why Bravo Team bites the dust literally right before Doomguy catches up). The demons attacking Doomguy were merely distractions to keep Doomguy from suspecting anything (Betruger probably was utilizing a BatmanGambit by assuming that Doomguy can make it through his hordes alive seeing as how he plowed through the opposition thus far). Betruger is able to send the transmission himself by copying the message that Doomguy uploaded when he put the transmission card in the communications tower, and can send it should Doomguy not do it.
**** 3. PlotHole
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** The Icon of Sin is probably more of an EldritchAbomination than we saw in the game. Not human shaped for sure.
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* So where ''do'' the bad people go when they die, now?

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