History Headscratchers / Claymore

11th Feb '16 6:53:02 PM Siblings-Curse
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*** It's been established at the end that Teresa wasn't simply a JackOfAllTrades, but a MasterOfAll. She was just CONSTANTLY suppressing her powers, and almost never takes any fight seriously because she's just that strong. The moment [[spoiler: Teresa came back to life through Clare]] it was established that she could do everything the others could do, except BETTER. Even Ilena's arm that [[spoiler: wasn't a perfect match for Clare and could only be used once at 100% lest she wanted to damage Clare's body,]] she was able to use perfectly, immediately. She can copy what she has just seen others do, and she can do other people's technique on a whim, because to her, those aren't 'special moves', but just a regular move all together. She is literally number 1. Strongest of all generation. Basically put...she was most likely still holding back when she was fighting with Ilena.

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*** It's been established at the end that Teresa wasn't simply a JackOfAllTrades, but a MasterOfAll. She was just CONSTANTLY suppressing her powers, and almost never takes any fight seriously because she's just that strong. The moment [[spoiler: Teresa came back to life through Clare]] it was established that she could do everything the others could do, except BETTER. Even Ilena's arm that [[spoiler: wasn't a perfect match for Clare and could only be used once at 100% lest she wanted to damage Clare's body,]] she was able to use perfectly, immediately. She can copy what she has just seen others do, and she can do other people's technique on a whim, because to her, those aren't 'special moves', but just a regular move all together. She is literally number 1. Strongest of all generation. Basically put...she was most likely still holding back when she was fighting with Ilena.Ilena, and Ilena thought that that was Teresa's limits. She was basically just underestimating Teresa.
11th Feb '16 6:51:14 PM Siblings-Curse
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*** It's been established at the end that Teresa wasn't simply a JackOfAllTrades, but a MasterOfAll. She was just CONSTANTLY suppressing her powers, and almost never takes any fight seriously because she's just that strong. The moment [[spoiler: Teresa came back to life through Clare]] it was established that she could do everything the others could do, except BETTER. Even Ilena's arm that [[spoiler: wasn't a perfect match for Clare and could only be used once at 100% lest she wanted to damage Clare's body,]] she was able to use perfectly, immediately. She can copy what she has just seen others do, and she can do other people's technique on a whim, because to her, those aren't 'special moves', but just a regular move all together. She is literally number 1. Strongest of all generation. Basically put...she was most likely still holding back when she was fighting with Ilena.
*** There's also another thing...even if the above mentioned is overlooked, the fact that Ilena and Teresa have known each other probably since before they were deployed as warriors can only say one thing - they were at least somewhat familiar with each others' techniques. Teresa even made an off-hand comment about how while Ilena has certainly gotten better, it still was just not enough. [[http://mangafox.me/manga/claymore/v04/c019/23.html Even from their faces]] you can see just what is happening in this fight. Ilena was already concentrating hard, but Teresa still had that faint smile on her face. The moment Ilena started to turn her sword towards Teresa, [[spoiler: Teresa was able to stop her sword like it was nothing]]. If you add the mentioned above, the fact that Teresa is just THAT strong, plus the fact that she probably has a working knowledge of Ilena's technique...it wasn't that Teresa's abilities are 'lesser'. She just wanted them all to believe that.
19th Jun '15 6:37:38 PM Halcyon_Serenade
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** Also, the Yoma parasites possibly instinctively switch before their current host is completely unusable, then eat the rest of it. It's never really mentioned how quickly Yoma need to switch, either; all we know is that they tend to get hungry enough to feed every two weeks on average. Given that Clare meets several Yoma outside and inside Riful's first layer, a fair distance from civiliation, it could be that it takes months or years before the body-jumping absolutely needs to happen, so when they get a convenient chance, they can body-jump then eat their previous host without much of an issue.
31st Mar '15 5:34:47 PM forwantofaname
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*** I doubt that. She specifically attacked the Destroyer, which I doubt one of its parts wouold do, to get it out of the way so she could fight the Priscilla. My current theories are that a) it is Riful and Dauf's offspring, which could only been born when her mother died b) given Riful's Awakened form showed that she had no vitals in her upper half it's possible she survived long enough to absorb Dauf but in doing so destroyed her sense of self, knowing only her hatred for Priscilla or c) Priscilla, who has been shown to be able to break off parts of her body and revive the dead, accidentally left part of herself in Riful and Dauf when killing them, and the two revived, and that's why Destroy-Priscilla attacked it like they thought she was there to be absorbed only for Riful and Dauf's hatred for her to wake up just as that was happening and attack.
24th Mar '15 8:41:10 PM nombretomado
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* Just how powerful IS Quicksword? I mean, it leaves visible slash marks in water. Like, 40 clear, disctict slash marks lasting AFTER the technique has been used and the user has relaxed. It's like FateStayNight's Assassin, just instead of bending reality to land 3 blows at once, it's 40ish. I mean, water cohesion means that water reacts to being parted 0.0167 seconds after being parted, and she's landing 40+ of these at once. Meaning one cut every 0.000416 seconds. Meaning over 2500 cuts/second. Are my numbers wrong, cause this doesn't seem possible...

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* Just how powerful IS Quicksword? I mean, it leaves visible slash marks in water. Like, 40 clear, disctict distinct slash marks lasting AFTER the technique has been used and the user has relaxed. It's like FateStayNight's ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'''s Assassin, just instead of bending reality to land 3 blows at once, it's 40ish. I mean, water cohesion means that water reacts to being parted 0.0167 seconds after being parted, and she's landing 40+ of these at once. Meaning one cut every 0.000416 seconds. Meaning over 2500 cuts/second. Are my numbers wrong, cause this doesn't seem possible...
8th Feb '15 1:24:17 PM shardag
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** I'm not sure about this, but notice that when Ilena attacks Teresa, a lot of things other than Teresa get chopped up, and Teresa even warns her to avoid hitting Claire. I think Ilena's quick sword sacrifices accuracy for power, so she throws a several lightning fast random strikes at Teresa, several of which miss her entirely. Teresa, while not as fast as Ilena, is fast enough to only block the attacks which are dangerous to her. That's how she matches the quick sword without matching Ilena's speed.
15th Nov '14 10:05:40 AM Redazrael
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*** [[spoiler:Aaaand [[ I'm wrong]], though [[SurprisinglyHappyEnding I'm hardly disappointed about it]]. Turns out Rafaela was a lot more merciful that I'd thought at the time.]]

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*** [[spoiler:Aaaand [[ I'm wrong]], wrong, though [[SurprisinglyHappyEnding I'm hardly disappointed about it]]. Turns out Rafaela was a lot more merciful that I'd thought at the time.]]
14th Nov '14 9:02:00 PM Redazrael
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*** [[spoiler:Aaaand [[ I'm wrong]], though [[SurprisinglyHappyEnding I'm hardly disappointed about it]]. Turns out Rafaela was a lot more merciful that I'd thought at the time.]]
14th Nov '14 8:55:20 PM Redazrael
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** Because their womb is supposed to be a BodyHorror, I doubt that Claymore can pretend to be human if naked. On the subject of sex, I would have discouraged it if I worked for the Organization : sex creates bonds and Claymore are ideally weapons who do their job mechanically without making any bond. That's why Theresa can't kill bandits without running into trouble whereas the Organization closed their eyes when Ophelia slaughter people. And I would be careful with Agatha : after all she pretended to kiss a man and then ripped him in two. So I think that her offer of sex was just toying. The only cannon couple of Riful and Isley seems to be in platonic love, which is [[HotSkittyOnWailordAction fortunate]].

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** Because their womb is supposed to be a BodyHorror, I doubt that Claymore can pretend to be human if naked. On the subject of sex, I would have discouraged it if I worked for the Organization : sex creates bonds and Claymore are ideally weapons who do their job mechanically without making any bond. That's why Theresa Teresa can't kill bandits without running into trouble whereas the Organization closed their eyes when Ophelia slaughter people. And I would be careful with Agatha : after all she pretended to kiss a man and then ripped him in two. So I think that her offer of sex was just toying. The only cannon couple of Riful and Isley seems to be in platonic love, which is [[HotSkittyOnWailordAction fortunate]].



* If Daae chose the three strongest #1's in their history, why isn't Theresa in that group of three?

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* If Daae Dae chose the three strongest #1's in their history, why isn't Theresa Teresa in that group of three?



*** Two things. 1- Did the Org actually know how powerful Theresa was? 2- Dae factored in the condition of the corpse. Re-attaching Theresa's head and compensating for whatever flesh they used on Claire may have made it not worth it.

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*** Two things. 1- Did the Org actually know how powerful Theresa Teresa was? 2- Dae factored in the condition of the corpse. Re-attaching Theresa's Teresa's head and compensating for whatever flesh they used on Claire may have made it not worth it.



** It may merely be the three strongest #1's whose bodies the organization actually had access to in a relatively whole state (or even the only three - if they had more than just those three, you'd think, given the situation, that they would have released them all). Naturally the original three Abyssal Ones were #1's whose bodies the organization didn't have, so there's no telling how they ranked against these next three. Other #1's if killed in the field may not have had a usable body left to recover. In the case of Theresa, it might be that the head is necessary to keep the body viable, and death by decapitation renders the body unusable for this purpose.
*** But Cassandra's body was not relatively whole. Not in the slightest.

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** It may merely be the three strongest #1's whose bodies the organization actually had access to in a relatively whole state (or even the only three - if they had more than just those three, you'd think, given the situation, that they would have released them all). Naturally the original three Abyssal Ones were #1's whose bodies the organization didn't have, so there's no telling how they ranked against these next three. Other #1's if killed in the field may not have had a usable body left to recover. In the case of Theresa, Teresa, it might be that the head is necessary to keep the body viable, and death by decapitation renders the body unusable for this purpose.
*** But Cassandra's body was not relatively whole. Not in the slightest. slightest.
*** They had all the pieces, though, whereas Teresa's head was (presumably) used to create Clare. So that might explain why.
7th Oct '14 10:26:12 PM RedDingo
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** It wasn't just the wounds that made it repellent. It was the way Teresa acted so nonchalant, depriving the bandits of any particular thrill they would get in assaulting her. What they wanted to do was bring a powerful woman/monster low through sexual trauma but the act became hollow the moment Teresa said "Eh, do your worst" and gave them a view. They get off on despair and anguish, not faint smiles.
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