History Headscratchers / ChronoTrigger

29th Nov '16 7:36:36 AM DocLithius
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[[folder: Doan, Last of the Wild Riders]]
* Er, hang on a second. Doan is an old man in 2300 A.D. An old man that, quote, "used to ride ''[his jetbike]'' when he was younger." Through a dystopian wasteland caused by Lavos 301 years ago. I'm sorry, what? Either the world wasn't in nearly as bad shape in the 2200s, or there was some ''[[Film/MadMax Mad Max]]''-esque stuff going on back then.
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1st Nov '16 9:05:28 PM PandaXclone2
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** Actually there ''is'' a slight indication of this; after retreiving Robo from his 400 years of labor bringing the forest to life, Chrono and the gang hypothesise that the gates are the Earth's memories flashing before its eyes. Given that this expression happens when imminent death approaches, 2300 AD may be the Earth's last year(s) living. After defeating Lavos, the gates begin to close since it doesn't erupt from the Earth in 1999 AD and reign destruction upon its surface and as such doesn't have its life flash before its eyes.
11th Oct '16 11:26:39 PM xxxplizit
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** [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Time was heavily altered by various actions throughout the course of the game]], [[FromBadToWorse affecting the decision to make the Black Omen's visibility final.]] During the North Cape dialogue, Magus explained what really happened there during that original time: Melchoir, Gaspar, Belthasar, and Janus (who is revealed to be Magus) were sent to different time periods, while the status of Queen Zeal and Schala remain unknown. However, altering 12,000 B.C.'s timeline, including Crono's death. The battle with Lavos's final form revealed that it was adapting its full plans due to its ability to change time during battle. All of this was believed to make Lavos gain more power from the magic-heavy 12,000 B.C. as a preemptive strike has its plans failed.

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** [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Time was heavily altered by various actions throughout the course of the game]], [[FromBadToWorse affecting the decision to make the Black Omen's visibility final.]] During the North Cape dialogue, Magus explained what really originally happened there during that original time: there: Melchoir, Gaspar, Belthasar, and Janus (who is revealed to be Magus) were sent to different time periods, while the status of Queen Zeal and Schala remain unknown. However, altering the events of the battle with Magus during his castle caused a massive time warp that sent Magus to 12,000 B.C.'s timeline, and the heroes to 65,000,000 B.C. and the events afterward altered the original events of 12,000 B.C. too heavily, including [[HeroicSacrifice Crono's death. death]] and the use of the originally destroyed Ocean Palace recreated as The Black Omen. Much later throughout the game, the battle with Lavos's final form revealed that it was adapting its full plans due to its ability to change time during battle. All of this was believed to make Lavos gain more power from the magic-heavy 12,000 B.C. as a preemptive strike has had its plans failed.failed; the heroes (and villains) altered time and Lavos adjusted time accordingly.
11th Oct '16 11:16:20 PM xxxplizit
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** [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Time was heavily altered by various actions throughout the course of the game]], [[FromBadToWorse affecting the decision to make the Black Omen's visibility final.]] Explained in the dialogue during the North Cape where you meet up with Magus was "he explained the exact actions that took place:
This includes the presence of the characters in 65,000,000 B.C. where they shouldn't even exist, which then altered the 12,000 B.C.'s timeline and the altered events unfold, including Crono's death. The battle with Lavos's final form revealed that it was adapting its full plans due to its ability to change time during battle. All of this was believed to make Lavos gain more power from the magic-heavy 12,000 B.C. as a preemptive strike has its plans failed.

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** [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Time was heavily altered by various actions throughout the course of the game]], [[FromBadToWorse affecting the decision to make the Black Omen's visibility final.]] Explained in the dialogue during During the North Cape where you meet up with dialogue, Magus was "he explained the exact actions what really happened there during that took place:
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original time: Melchoir, Gaspar, Belthasar, and Janus (who is revealed to be Magus) were sent to different time periods, while the presence status of the characters in 65,000,000 Queen Zeal and Schala remain unknown. However, altering 12,000 B.C. where they shouldn't even exist, which then altered the 12,000 B.C.'s timeline and the altered events unfold, timeline, including Crono's death. The battle with Lavos's final form revealed that it was adapting its full plans due to its ability to change time during battle. All of this was believed to make Lavos gain more power from the magic-heavy 12,000 B.C. as a preemptive strike has its plans failed.
11th Oct '16 10:53:10 PM xxxplizit
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'''WARNING:''' All of the folders contain spoilers in the game. Proceed at your own risk, or simply time travel a few seconds to forget what you just read.

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** [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Time was heavily altered by various actions]], affecting the decision to make the Black Omen's visibility final. This includes the presence of the characters in 65,000,000 B.C. where they shouldn't even exist, which then altered the 12,000 B.C.'s timeline and the altered events unfold, including Crono's death. The battle with Lavos's final form revealed that it was adapting its full plans due to its ability to change time during battle. All of this was believed to make Lavos gain more power from the magic-heavy 12,000 B.C. as a preemptive strike has its plans failed.

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** [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Time was heavily altered by various actions]], actions throughout the course of the game]], [[FromBadToWorse affecting the decision to make the Black Omen's visibility final.]] Explained in the dialogue during the North Cape where you meet up with Magus was "he explained the exact actions that took place:
This includes the presence of the characters in 65,000,000 B.C. where they shouldn't even exist, which then altered the 12,000 B.C.'s timeline and the altered events unfold, including Crono's death. The battle with Lavos's final form revealed that it was adapting its full plans due to its ability to change time during battle. All of this was believed to make Lavos gain more power from the magic-heavy 12,000 B.C. as a preemptive strike has its plans failed.
11th Oct '16 10:41:57 PM xxxplizit
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'''WARNING:''' All of the folders contain spoilers in the game. Proceed at your own risk, or simply time travel a few seconds to forget what you just read.
11th Oct '16 10:41:04 PM xxxplizit
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** Time was heavily altered by various actions, affecting the decision to make the Black Omen's visibility final. This includes the presence of the characters in 65,000,000 B.C. where they shouldn't even exist, which then altered the 12,000 B.C.'s timeline and the altered events unfold, including Crono's death. The battle with Lavos's final form revealed that it was adapting its full plans due to its ability to change time during battle. All of this was believed to make Lavos gain more power from the magic-heavy 12,000 B.C. as a preemptive strike has its plans failed.

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** [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Time was heavily altered by various actions, actions]], affecting the decision to make the Black Omen's visibility final. This includes the presence of the characters in 65,000,000 B.C. where they shouldn't even exist, which then altered the 12,000 B.C.'s timeline and the altered events unfold, including Crono's death. The battle with Lavos's final form revealed that it was adapting its full plans due to its ability to change time during battle. All of this was believed to make Lavos gain more power from the magic-heavy 12,000 B.C. as a preemptive strike has its plans failed.
31st Aug '16 8:55:42 PM syrusdark
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** Honestly, GameplayAndStorySegregation is the only explanation. In the remake's extra quest, there is a moment where your party is imprisoned, and a second party comes to the rescue. Apparently a Gate Key is not necessary to get out of the End of Time, since the portals there are always open, so the full party of 7 could indeed travel together.
31st Aug '16 3:15:06 PM syrusdark
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** Your mistake is the assumption that they plan to beat Lavos up. That's not plan A, not even plan B. At first they want to find out how Lavos was created, then stop it, something that foreknowledge and time travel alone would be able to accomplish. Fighting Lavos only really becomes an option after they find out it's not born on Earth, and its arrival is inevitable. At which point they're already magical powerhouses that can beat otherwordly foes.
31st Aug '16 2:58:11 PM syrusdark
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** Think of the Sun Stone less like a simple battery, and more like an artefact with two stable points. It's on "absorb energy" mode (Moon Stone) until it reaches full charge, when it then changes to "provide energy" mode (Sun Stone) and remains on that until it's depleted. So, a 50% charged Moon Stone is still useless, while a 50% charged Sun Stone is still one heck of a powerful thing. Likewise, a 99.999% charged Moon Stone still needs that little bit of extra juice before it can start doing anything, even if our heroes don't get even close to using 1% of its power.
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