History Headscratchers / ChronoCross

1st Mar '18 10:27:36 PM Ingonyama
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* Since FATE has such control over the destinies of the descendents of the Chronopolis factory workers, why did it allow the culture to become so pro-Dragon God/Dragonian? We know that the Dragon God is FATE's enemy. But until the arrival of the mainlanders, the human natives seem to have basically worshipped the Dragon Gods (if Steena's religion is indicative of the religion of the native humans in general). And this is not academic; this pro-Dragon God culture is directly responsible for Serge's willingness to trust the Dragon Gods when they fooled him into opposing FATE, and hence ultimately for FATE's demise. It is somewhat ironic that it was the recent immigrants from the mainland and their descendents, who FATE didn't want there for other reasons, who showed skepticism about the Dragons and Dragonians and preferred purely human culture. So if FATE can convince people to stop pursuing poetry or fishing, then why couldn't it take steps to ensure that its humans would shun the Dragon Gods and all of their culture, and hence eventually cause Serge to be suspicious of the Dragon Gods?

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* Since FATE has such control over the destinies of the descendents descendants of the Chronopolis factory workers, why did it allow the culture to become so pro-Dragon God/Dragonian? We know that the Dragon God is FATE's enemy. But until the arrival of the mainlanders, the human natives seem to have basically worshipped the Dragon Gods (if Steena's religion is indicative of the religion of the native humans in general). And this is not academic; this pro-Dragon God culture is directly responsible for Serge's willingness to trust the Dragon Gods when they fooled him into opposing FATE, and hence ultimately for FATE's demise. It is somewhat ironic that it was the recent immigrants from the mainland and their descendents, descendants, who FATE didn't want there for other reasons, who showed skepticism about the Dragons and Dragonians and preferred purely human culture. So if FATE can convince people to stop pursuing poetry or fishing, then why couldn't it take steps to ensure that its humans would shun the Dragon Gods and all of their culture, and hence eventually cause Serge to be suspicious of the Dragon Gods?



* Everything after you kill FATE. Namely: WHY does Kid basically cause the apocolypse and allow the dragons to unleash their masterplan? And Harle's attempt to talk her out of it does clarify that she is basically the one causing it. SO, I must ask, WHY. Why does some hidden part of her want to jumpstart the end of humanity? Is it because she she's a clone of Schala? Is it because of mind control? it's never fully explained what was happening there....

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* Everything after you kill FATE. Namely: WHY does Kid basically cause the apocolypse apocalypse and allow the dragons to unleash their masterplan? And Harle's attempt to talk her out of it does clarify that she is basically the one causing it. SO, I must ask, WHY. Why does some hidden part of her want to jumpstart the end of humanity? Is it because she she's a clone of Schala? Is it because of mind control? it's never fully explained what was happening there....


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** Additionally, Kid's whole raison d'etre has been to get revenge on Lynx for killing her Sis. Now she comes out of her brainwashing only to find he's already dead and had been manipulating and using her against Serge and the others. She's been cheated of her vengeance as well as abused and violated, and now has nothing to show for her life or even to care about anymore. At this point it might look pretty attractive to take the Flame and lash out with it in a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, TakingYouWithMe gambit. There's also the possibility (but this is pure speculation) that the Flame has power to control time travel (or Kid believes it does) due to being a piece of Lavos, and so she thinks she can use it to go back and save Lucca.
11th Oct '17 8:17:16 AM AxelFive
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** There was an actual item called the Chrono Trigger in ''Chrono Trigger'', an object made of pure potential that, under the right circumstances, could alter time itself; In this case, altering time so Crono never died. Serge represents that same potential. Under the right circumstances, he can alter time and prevent the Time Devourer from ever existing.
10th Jun '17 4:33:36 PM nombretomado
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*** Or read ''AWrinkleInTime''. In any case, Darkness Beyond Time fits better, 'specially since [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract this]] is a tesseract.

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*** Or read ''AWrinkleInTime''.''Literature/AWrinkleInTime''. In any case, Darkness Beyond Time fits better, 'specially since [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract this]] is a tesseract.
27th Dec '16 9:36:25 AM syrusdark
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** Home World being destroyed by Lavos is not a consequence of Serge's existence per se, it's a consequence of that world existing at all. It all comes from the fact that the timeline was split after 1000AD, but before 1999AD. Because of that, there is a single version of the Present trio from ''Chrono Trigger'' running around the timeline, but there are two Futures in need of saving, and they only saved the main timeline.
27th Nov '16 7:39:23 PM NimmerStill
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* After the battle with Garai, Radius says "Perhaps Glenn will take on that role, now that Dario is gone." But this is Radius from Home world, and in Home world, Glenn is already gone, lost in the Dead Sea expedition. (Furthermore, Home Dario turns out *not* to be gone, but Garai doesn't know that.) Is Home Radius referring to the Another Glenn he just learned exists from Serge? Or does he believe Home Glenn might still come back? Possible, but a strange remark either way.

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* After the battle with Garai, Radius says "Perhaps Glenn will take on that role, now that Dario is gone." But this is Radius from Home world, and in Home world, Glenn is already gone, lost in the Dead Sea expedition. (Furthermore, Home Dario turns out *not* to be gone, but Garai Radius doesn't know that.) Is Home Radius referring to the Another Glenn he just learned exists from Serge? Or does he believe Home Glenn might still come back? Possible, but a strange remark either way.
23rd Nov '16 3:20:48 PM NimmerStill
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* Why is Serge's existence tied to the future of the world? One thing I didn't get is, how does Serge's prolonged existence in Home World affect whether or not Lavos will wake up and destroy the world in the future, thus creating the Dead Sea , I mean, you could make the argument that, since Serge is the Arbiter of the Frozen Flame, the Records of Fate no longer work and so Chronopolis' existence in the future is put at risk because of that, and that since Chronopolis came into being only in the Good Futuree, this means that the Bad Future is logically the one that will come to pass, but still, I don't see how Serge's death is tied to whether or not Crono and friends succeed at defeating Lavos.

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* Why is Serge's existence tied to the future of the world? One thing I didn't get is, how does Serge's prolonged existence in Home World affect whether or not Lavos will wake up and destroy the world in the future, thus creating the Dead Sea , I mean, you could make the argument that, since Serge is the Arbiter of the Frozen Flame, the Records of Fate no longer work and so Chronopolis' existence in the future is put at risk because of that, and that since Chronopolis came into being only in the Good Futuree, Future, this means that the Bad Future is logically the one that will come to pass, but still, I don't see how Serge's death is tied to whether or not Crono and friends succeed at defeating Lavos.Lavos.
* After the battle with Garai, Radius says "Perhaps Glenn will take on that role, now that Dario is gone." But this is Radius from Home world, and in Home world, Glenn is already gone, lost in the Dead Sea expedition. (Furthermore, Home Dario turns out *not* to be gone, but Garai doesn't know that.) Is Home Radius referring to the Another Glenn he just learned exists from Serge? Or does he believe Home Glenn might still come back? Possible, but a strange remark either way.
11th Nov '16 10:17:10 PM PandaXclone2
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* Why is Serge's existence tied to the future of the world? One thing I didn't get is, how does Serge's prolonged existence in Home World affect whether or not Lavos will wake up and destroy the world in the future, thus creating the Dead Sea , I mean, you could make the argument that, since Serge is the Arbiter of the Frozen Flame, the Records of Fate no longer work and so Chronopolis' existence in the future is put at risk because of that, and that since Chronopolis came into being only in the Good Futuree, this means that the Bad Future is logically the one that will come to pass, but still, I don't see how Serge's death is tied to whether or not Crono and friends succeed at defeating Lavos.
8th Nov '16 10:38:43 PM NimmerStill
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* If Guile has enough magic to make his wand hover, why does he need the wand?
23rd Jul '16 1:52:52 AM MMMMRicher
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29th Apr '16 4:22:15 PM nombretomado
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* What the '''flying duckies''' is wrong with those fairies? We ''save their lives'' and they start ranting that all humans are evil? Okay, the dwarves wouldn't have started the genocide of the fairies if the humans hadn't poisoned the marshes. Fair enough. But the humans had no way of knowing the dwarves would do that, and it's not like they told the dwarves to go kill the fairies. The dwarves crossed the ocean to get to Water Dragon Isle, surely they could've reached a different location. The fact that they got to Water Dragon Isle was nothing more than bad luck. Humans may have indirectly harmed the fairies, but the dwarves harmed them directly and your human party ''helped'' directly. And with all their tanks and mining, it's not like the dwarves were [[CaptainPlanet Planeteers]] themselves. What gives?

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* What the '''flying duckies''' is wrong with those fairies? We ''save their lives'' and they start ranting that all humans are evil? Okay, the dwarves wouldn't have started the genocide of the fairies if the humans hadn't poisoned the marshes. Fair enough. But the humans had no way of knowing the dwarves would do that, and it's not like they told the dwarves to go kill the fairies. The dwarves crossed the ocean to get to Water Dragon Isle, surely they could've reached a different location. The fact that they got to Water Dragon Isle was nothing more than bad luck. Humans may have indirectly harmed the fairies, but the dwarves harmed them directly and your human party ''helped'' directly. And with all their tanks and mining, it's not like the dwarves were [[CaptainPlanet [[WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers Planeteers]] themselves. What gives?
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