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** What about the scene where Ginger's talking about what freedom would mean for the hens, and Babs interprets there being no farmer in the scenario as meaning the farmer might be on holiday? There's also a moment at the end where Babs says that their newfound freedom as being a 'lovely holiday'. It might just be possible that she thinks anyone being away from the farm (or hens being taken out of the chicken coop) equals them going on holiday, although I guess the only exceptions to that scenario would be when she's nervous about not having laid eggs, and when Ginger is taken to the pie machine.
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** What about the scene where Ginger's talking about what freedom would mean for the hens, and Babs interprets there being no farmer in the scenario as meaning the farmer might be on holiday? There's also a moment at the end where Babs says that their newfound freedom as being a 'lovely holiday'. It might just be possible that she thinks anyone being away from the farm (or hens being taken out of the chicken coop) equals them going on holiday, although I guess the only exceptions to that scenario would be when she's nervous about not having laid eggs, and when Ginger is taken to the pie machine.machine.
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* So, I understand the general concept that Mr. Tweedy thinks the chickens are intelligent because he's the one guarding them and dealing with their escape attempts, whereas Mrs. Tweedy handles more of the business end of things and thus doesn't get to see the escapes. Fine. But here are some of the things that Mrs. Tweedy is definitely aware of. First, the hens sleep in the exact same huts, in the exact same nests, every single night (how else could the Tweedys accurately keep track of which hens are laying eggs and which aren't). Second, they understand that the alarm means it's roll call time, and they know to go line up in perfectly symmetrical lines and stand at attention. Third, the lines they stand in during roll call are clearly precise in how they correspond to where they sleep in their huts, since Mrs. Tweedy is able to use the egg laying form to single out which chickens aren't laying eggs anymore. Given that Mrs. Tweedy is very aware of those things, how can she ''not'' understand that the chickens are at the very least somewhat intelligent?
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* So, I understand the general concept that Mr. Tweedy thinks the chickens are intelligent because he's the one guarding them and dealing with their escape attempts, whereas Mrs. Tweedy handles more of the business end of things and thus doesn't get to see the escapes. Fine. But here are some of the things that Mrs. Tweedy is definitely aware of. First, the hens sleep in the exact same huts, in the exact same nests, every single night (how else could the Tweedys accurately keep track of which hens are laying eggs and which aren't). Second, they understand that the alarm means it's roll call time, and they know to go line up in perfectly symmetrical lines and stand at attention. Third, the lines they stand in during roll call are clearly precise in how they correspond to where they sleep in their huts, since Mrs. Tweedy is able to use the egg laying form to single out which chickens aren't laying eggs anymore. Given that Mrs. Tweedy is very aware of those things, how can she ''not'' understand that the chickens are at the very least somewhat intelligent?
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** This troper is under the opinion that it's straight-up denial and/or a coping mechanism. Perhaps Babs comes up with innocent scenarios to shield herself from the horror of it all, and only drops the act when there's no point in keeping it up.
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** This troper is under the opinion that it's straight-up denial and/or a coping mechanism. Perhaps Babs comes up with innocent scenarios to shield herself from the horror of it all, and only drops the act when there's no point in keeping it up.up.
** What about the scene where Ginger's talking about what freedom would mean for the hens, and Babs interprets there being no farmer in the scenario as meaning the farmer might be on holiday? There's also a moment at the end where Babs says that their newfound freedom as being a 'lovely holiday'. It might just be possible that she thinks anyone being away from the farm (or hens being taken out of the chicken coop) equals them going on holiday, although I guess the only exceptions to that scenario would be when she's nervous about not having laid eggs, and when Ginger is taken to the pie machine.
** What about the scene where Ginger's talking about what freedom would mean for the hens, and Babs interprets there being no farmer in the scenario as meaning the farmer might be on holiday? There's also a moment at the end where Babs says that their newfound freedom as being a 'lovely holiday'. It might just be possible that she thinks anyone being away from the farm (or hens being taken out of the chicken coop) equals them going on holiday, although I guess the only exceptions to that scenario would be when she's nervous about not having laid eggs, and when Ginger is taken to the pie machine.
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* Even though Babs looks sad before she comments if Edwina is going on holiday, why does she think that that’s the case? She’s been on the farm long enough to know what happens when a hen is taken away to the barn after roll call (and even later in the film is nervous about it herself!).
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* Even though Babs looks sad before she comments if Edwina is going on holiday, why does she think that that’s the case? She’s been on the farm long enough to know what happens when a hen is taken away to the barn after roll call (and even later in the film is nervous about it herself!).herself!).
** This troper is under the opinion that it's straight-up denial and/or a coping mechanism. Perhaps Babs comes up with innocent scenarios to shield herself from the horror of it all, and only drops the act when there's no point in keeping it up.
** This troper is under the opinion that it's straight-up denial and/or a coping mechanism. Perhaps Babs comes up with innocent scenarios to shield herself from the horror of it all, and only drops the act when there's no point in keeping it up.
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** Is there only a setting on the machine to do a full batch of pies? Obviously it makes for a better scenario when Rocky keeps falling into them in the oven, but Ginger is only one small chicken and she’d never provide enough meat for all those pies. Surely it’s a waste of ingredients to make a full production when they were only using Ginger for a test run.
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** Something to note: we see that the veg that goes in the pies is properly peeled and chopped (in pretty uniform chunks too). If we assume that that’s the same veg that goes in when Rocky goes in, the machine is able to prepare veg. Could it be a stretch that it could properly prepare chickens? Bear in mind, we don’t see anything of the chicken preparations besides the saw blades.
* Is there only a setting on the machine to do a full batch of pies? Obviously it makes for a better scenario when Rocky keeps falling into them in the oven, but Ginger is only one small chicken and she’d never provide enough meat for all those pies. Surely it’s a waste of ingredients to make a full production when they were only using Ginger for a test run.
* Is there only a setting on the machine to do a full batch of pies? Obviously it makes for a better scenario when Rocky keeps falling into them in the oven, but Ginger is only one small chicken and she’d never provide enough meat for all those pies. Surely it’s a waste of ingredients to make a full production when they were only using Ginger for a test run.
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** Considering that Mrs Tweedy (who would be intelligent enough to know that the chickens should have to be properly prepared before being put in the machine) was there when Ginger was used to test the machine and said nothing, I’d be resigned to actually agree that maybe putting live chickens in is the correct thing. Also remember when the machine is fixed, she tells Mr Tweedy to get all the chickens. If the entire flock had to be slaughtered and prepared, it would take a fairly long time.
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** Because Mrs. Tweedy wants to maximize her profits and Ginger is still capable of laying eggs to sell for the market. The only time they would kill a chicken is if the chicken is no longer producing eggs for an entire week. Note that when Mrs. Tweedy switches from the egg market to the chicken pie market, Mr. Tweedy immediately goes after Ginger first.
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** Because Mrs. Tweedy wants to maximize her profits and Ginger is still capable of laying eggs to sell for the market. The only time they would kill a chicken is if the chicken is no longer producing eggs for an entire week. Note that when Mrs. Tweedy switches from the egg market to the chicken pie market, Mr. Tweedy immediately goes after Ginger first.first.
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*Even though Babs looks sad before she comments if Edwina is going on holiday, why does she think that that’s the case? She’s been on the farm long enough to know what happens when a hen is taken away to the barn after roll call (and even later in the film is nervous about it herself!).
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*Even though Babs looks sad before she comments if Edwina is going on holiday, why does she think that that’s the case? She’s been on the farm long enough to know what happens when a hen is taken away to the barn after roll call (and even later in the film is nervous about it herself!).
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** Is there only a setting on the machine to do a full batch of pies? Obviously it makes for a better scenario when Rocky keeps falling into them in the oven, but Ginger is only one small chicken and she’d never provide enough meat for all those pies. Surely it’s a waste of ingredients to make a full production when they were only using Ginger for a test run.
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*** It kind of makes some modicum of sense as ''Chicken Run'' is set during the 1950s1950s. At one point, Mrs. Tweedy says her name is "Melisha" and, in the credits or production notes, Mr. Tweedy is named "Willard".
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***It kind of makes some modicum of sense as ''Chicken Run'' is set during the 1950s
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** Also, are you actually supposed to drop live, unplucked chickens straight into the grinder? Won't the pies be full of bones and feathers? Or was Mr. Tweedy too stupid to understand that?
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* Given he was clearly aware of how much trouble she was, why didn't Mr. Tweedy just kill Ginger after her first escape attempt?attempt?
** Because Mrs. Tweedy wants to maximize her profits and Ginger is still capable of laying eggs to sell for the market. The only time they would kill a chicken is if the chicken is no longer producing eggs for an entire week. Note that when Mrs. Tweedy switches from the egg market to the chicken pie market, Mr. Tweedy immediately goes after Ginger first.
** Because Mrs. Tweedy wants to maximize her profits and Ginger is still capable of laying eggs to sell for the market. The only time they would kill a chicken is if the chicken is no longer producing eggs for an entire week. Note that when Mrs. Tweedy switches from the egg market to the chicken pie market, Mr. Tweedy immediately goes after Ginger first.
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** Rocky ''tries'' to tell Ginger the truth after the dance scene, but he was interrupted by the delivery truck. After rescuing Ginger from the pie machine, and listening her tell the others that he'll teach them to fly tomorrow, he feels guilty and can't bring himself to reveal the truth. So he left the other half of his poster before leaving. Had he verbally told the hens the truth, then their disappointment would have been more painful than it needed to be.
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** Rocky ''tries'' to tell Ginger the truth after the dance scene, but he was interrupted by the delivery truck. After rescuing Ginger from the pie machine, and listening her tell the others that he'll teach them to fly tomorrow, he feels guilty and can't bring himself to reveal the truth. So he left the other half of his poster before leaving. Had he verbally told the hens the truth, then their disappointment would have been more painful than it needed to be.be.
* Given he was clearly aware of how much trouble she was, why didn't Mr. Tweedy just kill Ginger after her first escape attempt?
* Given he was clearly aware of how much trouble she was, why didn't Mr. Tweedy just kill Ginger after her first escape attempt?
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** Someone else mentioned this in the Fridge, but basically, since Mr. Tweedy had been relegated to patrolling the farm, he had witnessed first hand, and stopped, Ginger's escape attempts. Also, he noticed that whenever anything strange happened, whether an escape attempt or if the chickens were demonstrating some "un-chicken like" behavior, Ginger was always around, thus he deduced that Ginger was the one organizing them.
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** Rocky ''tries'' to tell Ginger the truth after the dance scene, but he was interrupted by the delivery truck. After rescuing Ginger from the pie machine, and listening her tell the others that he'll teach them to fly tomorrow he feels guilty and can't bring himself to reveal the truth. So he left the other half of his poster before leaving. Had he verbally told the hens the truth, then their disappointment would have been more painful than it needed to be.
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** Rocky ''tries'' to tell Ginger the truth after the dance scene, but he was interrupted by the delivery truck. After rescuing Ginger from the pie machine, and listening her tell the others that he'll teach them to fly tomorrow tomorrow, he feels guilty and can't bring himself to reveal the truth. So he left the other half of his poster before leaving. Had he verbally told the hens the truth, then their disappointment would have been more painful than it needed to be.
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** Also, the situation only comes up in degrees. At first, he's just enjoying all the attention he's getting. Then Ginger asks him if it's him on the poster, which he admits - again, clearly enjoying the attention. As soon as Ginger brings up the matter of him teaching them to fly, he tries to leave but is stopped by the circus truck arriving to look for him. Ginger works out he's hiding from them and makes him a deal: he teaches them to fly, they keep him hidden. Rocky has literally no incentive to refuse the deal, since he still doesn't take the plight of the chickens that seriously. To him, Ginger's just some dreamer and the other chickens are all more than happy to fawn over him. It's not until the moment he sees the chickens all depressed that he truly becomes at all invested in what actually happens to them and by then he's in way too deep with the deception to just tell them the truth.
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** Also, the situation only comes up in degrees. At first, he's just enjoying all the attention he's getting. Then Ginger asks him if it's him on the poster, which he admits - again, clearly enjoying the attention. As soon as Ginger brings up the matter of him teaching them to fly, he tries to leave but is stopped by the circus truck arriving to look for him. Ginger works out he's hiding from them and makes him a deal: he teaches them to fly, they keep him hidden. Rocky has literally no incentive to refuse the deal, since he still doesn't take the plight of the chickens that seriously. To him, Ginger's just some dreamer and the other chickens are all more than happy to fawn over him. It's not until the moment he sees the chickens all depressed that he truly becomes at all invested in what actually happens to them then and by then he's in way too deep with the deception to just tell them the truth.truth.
**Rocky ''tries'' to tell Ginger the truth after the dance scene, but he was interrupted by the delivery truck. After rescuing Ginger from the pie machine, and listening her tell the others that he'll teach them to fly tomorrow he feels guilty and can't bring himself to reveal the truth. So he left the other half of his poster before leaving. Had he verbally told the hens the truth, then their disappointment would have been more painful than it needed to be.
**Rocky ''tries'' to tell Ginger the truth after the dance scene, but he was interrupted by the delivery truck. After rescuing Ginger from the pie machine, and listening her tell the others that he'll teach them to fly tomorrow he feels guilty and can't bring himself to reveal the truth. So he left the other half of his poster before leaving. Had he verbally told the hens the truth, then their disappointment would have been more painful than it needed to be.
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** It seems fair to say that Rocky did not plan ahead for anything. Far as we can tell, even before his initial escape attempt went awry, he had no larger goal than 'get away from the circus'. If anything, Rocky was probably always going to escape on his own once his wing healed up.
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** It seems fair to say that Rocky did not plan ahead for anything. Far as we can tell, even before his initial escape attempt went awry, he had no larger goal than 'get away from the circus'. If anything, Rocky was probably always going to escape on his own once his wing healed up.up.
** Also, the situation only comes up in degrees. At first, he's just enjoying all the attention he's getting. Then Ginger asks him if it's him on the poster, which he admits - again, clearly enjoying the attention. As soon as Ginger brings up the matter of him teaching them to fly, he tries to leave but is stopped by the circus truck arriving to look for him. Ginger works out he's hiding from them and makes him a deal: he teaches them to fly, they keep him hidden. Rocky has literally no incentive to refuse the deal, since he still doesn't take the plight of the chickens that seriously. To him, Ginger's just some dreamer and the other chickens are all more than happy to fawn over him. It's not until the moment he sees the chickens all depressed that he truly becomes at all invested in what actually happens to them and by then he's in way too deep with the deception to just tell them the truth.
** Also, the situation only comes up in degrees. At first, he's just enjoying all the attention he's getting. Then Ginger asks him if it's him on the poster, which he admits - again, clearly enjoying the attention. As soon as Ginger brings up the matter of him teaching them to fly, he tries to leave but is stopped by the circus truck arriving to look for him. Ginger works out he's hiding from them and makes him a deal: he teaches them to fly, they keep him hidden. Rocky has literally no incentive to refuse the deal, since he still doesn't take the plight of the chickens that seriously. To him, Ginger's just some dreamer and the other chickens are all more than happy to fawn over him. It's not until the moment he sees the chickens all depressed that he truly becomes at all invested in what actually happens to them and by then he's in way too deep with the deception to just tell them the truth.
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** I think you're giving Nick ''way'' too much credit here. He and Fetcher are pretty much the stereotypical ThoseTwoGuys you get in movies like this: one fat and short (Nick), one tall and thin (Fetcher), both stupid but one that's slightly more sensible/GenreSavvy than the other. Emphasis on the '''slightly'''. Nick certainly considers himself wildly superior in intelligence than Fetcher but that's not really saying much. The rats are basically the rodent equivalent of shady, bordering-on-con-men salesmen. The "sucker" comment after they make the deal with Rocky is probably due to the fact that he and Fetcher clearly think they're getting the better end of the deal and have essentially swindled Rocky out of a month's worth of eggs (note how they're trying to "big up" the heist when they got the items they're delivering at the start of the scene, making it seem more daring than it probably was). Likewise, his "it's a lady thing, apparently. Ask your mum" comment with regards to eggs (again, note the use of "apparently" as well as his expression/tone as he's speaking) indicates that he ''didn't'' know until then but was able to at least figure it out and is just trying to keep up his image as being "the smart one".
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* Why didn't Rocky just come forward and tell the chickens that he couldn't actually fly when Ginger asks him to teach them? Not only does he not do this, but he withholds the fact that he was actually fired from a cannon, thereby putting himself in a difficult situation when he is forced to fruitlessly teach them how to fly or otherwise be sent back to the circus. Wouldn't it be easier for both him and the chickens if he just told them the truth right away?
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* Why didn't Rocky just come forward and tell the chickens that he couldn't actually fly when Ginger asks him to teach them? Not only does he not do this, but he withholds the fact that he was actually fired from a cannon, thereby putting himself in a difficult situation when he is forced to fruitlessly teach them how to fly or otherwise be sent back to the circus. Wouldn't it be easier for both him and the chickens if he just told them the truth right away?away?
**It seems fair to say that Rocky did not plan ahead for anything. Far as we can tell, even before his initial escape attempt went awry, he had no larger goal than 'get away from the circus'. If anything, Rocky was probably always going to escape on his own once his wing healed up.
**It seems fair to say that Rocky did not plan ahead for anything. Far as we can tell, even before his initial escape attempt went awry, he had no larger goal than 'get away from the circus'. If anything, Rocky was probably always going to escape on his own once his wing healed up.
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*** One mated pair of chickens can, in some cases, have large clutches of babies, so maybe the large amount of baby chickens at the end are separate clutches each belonging to different couples. One clutch was likely sired by Rocky with Ginger, while Fowler sired the other (probably with Bunty, considering the slight ShipTease between them).
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* Why didn't Rocky just come forward and tell the chickens that he couldn't actually fly when Ginger asks him to teach them? Not only does he not do this, but he withholds the fact that he was actually fired from a cannon, thereby putting himself in a difficult situation when he is forced to fruitlessly teach them how to fly or otherwise be sent back to the circus. Wouldn't it be easier for both him and the chickens if he just told them the truth?
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* Why didn't Rocky just come forward and tell the chickens that he couldn't actually fly when Ginger asks him to teach them? Not only does he not do this, but he withholds the fact that he was actually fired from a cannon, thereby putting himself in a difficult situation when he is forced to fruitlessly teach them how to fly or otherwise be sent back to the circus. Wouldn't it be easier for both him and the chickens if he just told them the truth?truth right away?
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* I'm getting this off the Characters section. I had the impression that Nick at least always knew Rocky was lying about laying eggs but just wanted to see the chickens make fools of themselves (I'm thinking especially his "Sucker" comment to Fetcher). Fetcher, at least, would have been dim-witted enough to not know that and genuinely thought roosters laid eggs. Is there one way or another to know definitely if Nick was just as ignorant until the "But roosters don't lay eggs, do they?" comment, and that he did actually ask his mum?
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* I'm getting this off the Characters section. I had the impression that Nick at least always knew Rocky was lying about laying eggs but just wanted to see the chickens make fools of themselves (I'm thinking especially his "Sucker" comment to Fetcher). Fetcher, at least, would have been dim-witted enough to not know that and genuinely thought roosters laid eggs. Is there one way or another to know definitely if Nick was just as ignorant until the "But roosters don't lay eggs, do they?" comment, and that he did actually ask his mum?mum?
* Why didn't Rocky just come forward and tell the chickens that he couldn't actually fly when Ginger asks him to teach them? Not only does he not do this, but he withholds the fact that he was actually fired from a cannon, thereby putting himself in a difficult situation when he is forced to fruitlessly teach them how to fly or otherwise be sent back to the circus. Wouldn't it be easier for both him and the chickens if he just told them the truth?
* Why didn't Rocky just come forward and tell the chickens that he couldn't actually fly when Ginger asks him to teach them? Not only does he not do this, but he withholds the fact that he was actually fired from a cannon, thereby putting himself in a difficult situation when he is forced to fruitlessly teach them how to fly or otherwise be sent back to the circus. Wouldn't it be easier for both him and the chickens if he just told them the truth?
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** Also, keep in mind that Fowler was initially in the pedal section, before revealing that he never flew a plane. So they probably planned "We have X chickens, Fowler will be in front, and Mac will be in Navigations." But during the entire flight, Fowler's old seat remains vacant. That was probably planned to be Ginger's, she just never got a chance to take that seat on-camera.
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** I'd call it leader's privilege, but it's not all unjustified. Without Ginger, the chickens can't organize or plan for crap. She had been coming up with dozens of plans for all of them to escape their certain death (when she could've escaped on her own if she wanted to, probably; Rocky made it look easy to do it on your own) and she was almost always in the most risky spot, she had the overall idea of the Crate and was supervising the whole thing, probably including how Fowler would pilot it. She's also great at boosting the others' morality. I think it's fair to assume that this time they told her "Nah, it's okay, no need for you to pilot this time, just check if everyone's going well".
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** I'd call it leader's privilege, but it's not all unjustified. Without Ginger, the chickens can't organize or plan for crap. She had been coming up with dozens of plans for all of them to escape their certain death (when she could've escaped on her own if she wanted to, probably; Rocky made it look easy to do it on your own) and she was almost always in the most risky spot, she had the overall idea of the Crate and was supervising the whole thing, probably including how Fowler would pilot it. She's also great at boosting the others' morality. I think it's fair to assume that this time they told her "Nah, it's okay, no need for you to pilot this time, just check if everyone's going well".well".
* I'm getting this off the Characters section. I had the impression that Nick at least always knew Rocky was lying about laying eggs but just wanted to see the chickens make fools of themselves (I'm thinking especially his "Sucker" comment to Fetcher). Fetcher, at least, would have been dim-witted enough to not know that and genuinely thought roosters laid eggs. Is there one way or another to know definitely if Nick was just as ignorant until the "But roosters don't lay eggs, do they?" comment, and that he did actually ask his mum?
* I'm getting this off the Characters section. I had the impression that Nick at least always knew Rocky was lying about laying eggs but just wanted to see the chickens make fools of themselves (I'm thinking especially his "Sucker" comment to Fetcher). Fetcher, at least, would have been dim-witted enough to not know that and genuinely thought roosters laid eggs. Is there one way or another to know definitely if Nick was just as ignorant until the "But roosters don't lay eggs, do they?" comment, and that he did actually ask his mum?
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** I'd call it leader's privilege, but it's not all unjustified. Without Gingers, the chickens can't organize or plan for crap. She had been coming up with dozens of plans for all of them to escape their certain death (when she could've escaped on her own if she wanted to, probably; Rocky made it look easy to do it on your own) and she was almost always in the most risky spot, she had the overall idea of the Crate and was supervising the whole thing, probably including how Fowler would pilot it. She's also great at boosting the others' morality. I think it's fair to admit that this time they told her "Nah, it's okay, no need for you to pilot this time, just check if everyone's going well".
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** I'd call it leader's privilege, but it's not all unjustified. Without Gingers, Ginger, the chickens can't organize or plan for crap. She had been coming up with dozens of plans for all of them to escape their certain death (when she could've escaped on her own if she wanted to, probably; Rocky made it look easy to do it on your own) and she was almost always in the most risky spot, she had the overall idea of the Crate and was supervising the whole thing, probably including how Fowler would pilot it. She's also great at boosting the others' morality. I think it's fair to admit assume that this time they told her "Nah, it's okay, no need for you to pilot this time, just check if everyone's going well".
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** I'd call it leader's privilege, but it's not all unjustified. Without Gingers, the chickens can't organize or plan for crap. She had been coming up with dozens of plans for all of them to escape their certain death (when she could've escaped on her own if she wanted to, probably; Rocky made it look easy to do it on your own) and she was almost always in the most risky spot, she had the overall idea of the Crate and was supervising the whole thing, probably including how Fowler would pilot it. She's also great at boosting the others' morality. I think it's fair to admit that this time they told her "Nah, it's okay, no need for you to pilot this time, just check if everyone's going well".
** I'd call it leader's privilege, but it's not all unjustified. Without Gingers, the chickens can't organize or plan for crap. She had been coming up with dozens of plans for all of them to escape their certain death (when she could've escaped on her own if she wanted to, probably; Rocky made it look easy to do it on your own) and she was almost always in the most risky spot, she had the overall idea of the Crate and was supervising the whole thing, probably including how Fowler would pilot it. She's also great at boosting the others' morality. I think it's fair to admit that this time they told her "Nah, it's okay, no need for you to pilot this time, just check if everyone's going well".
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** This troper was bothered with that particular aspect of Mrs. Tweedy's plan, until he realized that Mrs. Tweedy is characterized as a sociopath. According to the Hare checklist, sociopaths and psychopaths tend to be deficient in long-term planning skills. Mrs. Tweedy will probably eat through the farm's capital (the chickens) for short-term profit. As an added bonus, Mr. Tweedy apparently inherited the farm from his father, so it would be entirely in character for Mrs. Tweedy to destroy her long-suffering husband's family business as a final cruelty to him.
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* The Pie Machine is awesome visually, but it does have me asking an important question: just how much unused space does that machine actually have? So you attach chickens by their feet to the conveyor belt, and they're dropped into the main part of the machine along with the vegetables. The veggies are chopped up offscreen and all that, but then where do the chicken choppings go? The indication is that they're ground up by the gears right below, but then why the ramp between the grinder and the dough flattening station?
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* The Pie Machine is awesome visually, but it does have me asking an important question: just how much unused space does that machine actually have? So you attach chickens by their feet to the conveyor belt, and they're dropped into the main part of the machine along with the vegetables. The veggies are chopped up offscreen and all that, but then where do the chicken choppings go? The indication is that they're ground up by the gears right below, but then why the ramp between the grinder and the dough flattening station?station?
* How come Ginger didn't have a pedal station in the Crate? She's lounging around in the main area, but she's not pedaling? What's up with that? Is this leader's privilege or something that she didn't have to pedal or something?
* How come Ginger didn't have a pedal station in the Crate? She's lounging around in the main area, but she's not pedaling? What's up with that? Is this leader's privilege or something that she didn't have to pedal or something?
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** He stole it from a toddler in a deleted scene.
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** He stole it from a toddler in a deleted scene.scene.
* The Pie Machine is awesome visually, but it does have me asking an important question: just how much unused space does that machine actually have? So you attach chickens by their feet to the conveyor belt, and they're dropped into the main part of the machine along with the vegetables. The veggies are chopped up offscreen and all that, but then where do the chicken choppings go? The indication is that they're ground up by the gears right below, but then why the ramp between the grinder and the dough flattening station?
* The Pie Machine is awesome visually, but it does have me asking an important question: just how much unused space does that machine actually have? So you attach chickens by their feet to the conveyor belt, and they're dropped into the main part of the machine along with the vegetables. The veggies are chopped up offscreen and all that, but then where do the chicken choppings go? The indication is that they're ground up by the gears right below, but then why the ramp between the grinder and the dough flattening station?
