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* The answer is simple, the Council doesn't want their slayers being paid and being independent. They don't want slayers like Buffy who have friends and a family. They want slayers like Kendra, who are brainwashed, dependent, and disposable. That last one is the most important; the position of slayer is a temporary one, lasting about four years max. Watchers are more permanent, that's why they get paid. Also, from the Council's point of view, the slayer has no use for money; again, they're not meant to last long like Buffy did, they're meant to do their job and die young. They have all their needs met, and most die as minors. Buffy fought for Giles, but not herself because paying a watcher is standard. Paying a slayer would've been unprecedented and asking too much.

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---> '''Joyce:''' Well, good. I mean, just as long as the two of you are spending some quality time with ... the lord.

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---> '''Joyce:''' Well, good. I mean, just as long as the two of you are spending some quality time with ... the lord.Lord.
*** It's used more for the sake of irony than anything else. Joyce knows what's going on, and Buffy knows that Joyce knows, but who wants to talk about their sex life to their parents?

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*** Why not? I'm sure if she acted pouty she'd get it from him. (Side note, Buffy knows Angel has a son. At least Willow did in Orpheus so we must assume buffy does as well.)

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*** Why not? I'm sure if she acted pouty she'd get it from him. (Side note, Buffy knows Angel has a son. At least Willow did in Orpheus so we must assume buffy Buffy does as well.))
**** Not necessarily--Buffy had enough going on in her life at the time; she didn't need that kind of information distracting her.

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* The Slayer is a weapon and that's how the Watcher's see her. They pay Giles to run her life and as far as they're concerned that's enough. And if Dawn wasn't in the picture it actually would have been enough.



** Likely for control reasons. When the Slayer was created it was stronger than the ones that are around now but also went feral. It's easier to keep control over one extremely strong warrior than to keep control over a lot of simply really strong warriors. The Watchers wouldn't bother changing things as they remain in control with the system as is and the job is still getting done so why mess with a good thing? Even Buffy only thought of it after seven years, with help from the First at that, and it only worked because they had a Slayer artifact and a witch as powerful as Willow.




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** There are a number of factors, magic, her mood (angry Buffy is pretty damned strong), level of threat, how tough her opponents are physically (hard for viewers to gage), how hard she's actually trying, what she's been training in, if anyone else is in danger, and of course good old writers whim. Sometimes characters get weakened for the sake of the plot, like during the two parts of What's My Line when Angel was hideously weakened by indirect sunlight to the point of being helpless even though the writers admit it made no sense.
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**** Because Buffy isn't the small, blond policewoman from DresdenFiles, a character who is completely irrelevant to any discussion of Buffy. Buffy, at this stage in her life, still holds on to the hope of a life outside of slaying. She wants to have a future where she can be anything ''other'' than the Slayer. Being told that she's destined for a life of law enforcement is effectively the school itself inadvertently telling her that fighting evil is the only thing she'll ever be good for.
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** Plausible Answer: Vampire Bait. Girls are stereotypically seen as the weaker sex and most vamps seem to be male. Could be that vampires underestimate her and see her as abnother easy meal, when BAM! she fights back and stakes them with her incredible strength.

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** Plausible Answer: Vampire Bait. Girls are stereotypically seen as the weaker sex and most vamps seem to be male. Could be that vampires underestimate her and see her as abnother easy meal, when BAM! she fights back and stakes them with her incredible strength. Girls make better bait. A vampire seeing a young adult male thinks "Fighter in their Prime" but sees a young adult female and thinks "Dinner" Also see "Slayer Pheromone" under WMG.
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** This troper always understood that it caused mental damage to a Slayer to kill humans (because the Shadowmen didn't want the Slayer to just go around killing humans they didn't like as well as vampires). This is what drove Faith over the edge (not just the conflicts of her actions, but an actual "feedback loop" of some sort from the Slayer Spirit), and the killing that Buffy has done at various points in the show did clear damage to her.
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*** For that matter, why is she so upset that she has an aptitude for Law Enforcement during Career Week in Season Two? Law Enforcement is basically what she does, and being a police officer would mean only dealing with humans, and getting paid for it, Buffy should be ecstatic that there could be a way for her to do her job and get paid for it, In the DresdenFiles series, one of the main characters is a small, blond policewoman whose job is to basically deal with things that go bump in the night and the rationalize it to her bosses.
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** [[YouKeepUsingThatWord That's not what agnosticism means]]. Agnosticism is the acknowledgement of the possibility of a higher power, without being able to define what that higher power is. It's not "We can't know", it's "There may or may not be a higher power, but there isn't enough information ''to explicitly define what that power is''." With all the gods, demons, and higher powers running around the Buffyverse, agnosticism is actually the most defensible stance; there's SO MUCH out there that it's impossible to say what's real. How would you know if you should be worshipping Jehova, Allah, Zeus, Glory, the Powers That Be, or Fornicus, Lord of Bondage and Pain? A Buffyverse agnostic is effectively the same as it is in the real world: someone who elects not to pick a god or faith, only instead of it being an absence of proof of any given one as it is in the real world, it's because of the abundance of proof of EVERYTHING.
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***It's still almost impossible for it to have never happened before. Even keeping in all those small percentages, you have to remember the average Slayer lifespan is extremely short even in the modern age. It's confirmed by the council that the vast majority Slayers do not live past their 18th birthday and we also know that Slayers are called some time during their early teenage years with the majority seeming to be called at around 16. So we have a line that, for the most part, has a life expectancy of 2 years with some even lasting more briefly than that (Kendra didn't make it a whole year, hell Buffy technically didn't make it a whole year either). And keep in mind, this is also the modern age, where more advanced weaponry, communications, resources, and medicine should keep the Slayer alive longer. God knows what the life expectancy was like back in the 3rd century. We also know that the Slayer line stretches back long enough that the Slayer scythe was used to kill the last Old One to walk the earth, an event that happened millions of years ago. And we know that the Slayer scythe can only be properly wielded by a Slayer, so it's safe to assume there was a Slayer back then. That means there have probably been millions of Slayers (assuming the average life expectancy is about 2 years) and it is extremely unlikely that not one of them ever had a twin.
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* I would think agnosticism would actually be a less tenable belief system than atheism in the Buffyverse. Agnosticism is just "there maybe god or gods, but how can we know?" and that kind of logic doesn't hold up when you start smacking around a Hell god with a Troll hammer. The only way to hold a belief system like that is to get into pointless semantic quibbling about what constitutes a "god". I'm not saying that normal human religions are valid in the Buffyverse, but it does seem like agnosticism doesn't hold up in that universe.
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* In the first few episodes, Buffy jumped fifteen feet straight up, accidentally crushed a metal door and casually snapped a chain thick enough to restrain a silverback gorilla. In the very same season, she needed Xander's help to bend a thin metal door, and was barely able to free herself from some pencil-thin chains. As the series goes on, she frequently displays super strength when she needs to perform one-shot tricks like breaking doors or fixtures, but rarely in actual combat. She has super strength and and only when the plot says so. Yes, some of it can be attributed to her weighing less than her enemies or having roughly human durability, but a lot of scenes flat out and blatantly contradict the established rules and treat her like a normal human. What gives?

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*** [[spoiler: Being a twin confused the Slayer Calling in Fray, resulting in a Slayer who only received the physical powers, with her twin sibling getting all the Slayer dreams, prophecy, knowledge, etc.]]
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** Wait, what does being a twin have to do with a slayer. First of all there is no reason to believe that fraternal twins could both be slayer, because they are genetically no different than any other siblings. Second, in the case of identical, which is the kind I'm assuming you referring to, why would that mean they would both become slayers. Identical twins are almost genetically identical, but we don't know what causes someone to become a potential (and then how a slayer is chosen). Even if both twins were potentials there can only be one so only one could be called at a time.
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***** They did, but she had leverage and the only money she actually got him that they wouldn't have had to pay eventually (based on rehiring him) was retroactive pay (and that was only at Giles' suggestion). If she didn't just not think of it, it's possible that she didn't want t push it ("it" being as much or more her personal [[[YourMileageMayVary mis?]]]use of power as their patience, since, leverage).

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***** They did, but she had leverage and the only money she actually got him that they wouldn't have had to pay eventually (based on rehiring him) was retroactive pay (and that was only at Giles' suggestion). If she didn't just not think of it, it's possible that she didn't want t push it ("it" being as much or more her personal [[[YourMileageMayVary mis?]]]use mis?use of power as their patience, since, leverage).
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*** Potential Slayers being born from Slayers seems to be improbable, but Potentials being born from Potentials? Technically, they ''are'' Slayers... with asleep powers. They are part of the Slayer Line too!
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*** While it's doubtful for a number of reasons that there is a slayer gene the only one slayer per generation is is very misleading. There is only one Slayer at any given time (until we broke the rules) but when one died another is called. Even if you count the three we Slayers we see as typical Buffy dies after two years, Kendra less than one, Faith is in a coma after less than one. Three years, three Slayers. Not to mention it's quite possible to get pregnant younger than 16 and that seems to be the "average" age for a Slayer to be called and it was common before recently. You can't prove or disprove the gene theory on this.
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***** Kendra was also probably busy battling evil and/or apocalyptic plans off wherever she was. Just because she wasn't in Sunnydale doesn't mean she was sitting on her laurels. Same for Faith, who even inadvertantly brought the vampire who killed her Watcher with her when she came to Sunnydale.
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*** We're explicitly told that she's not supposed to have any ties to the world. Giles tells Buffy outright in the first season that she must put slaying above all else in her life, it's a source of friction in the early days of their relationship. Wesley strongly discourages the existence of the Scooby Gang and permits it only because he's firmly outvoted and lacks any real power over Buffy. Kendra is played up as the ideal Slayer, being taken from her family and raised by her Watcher, and outright tells Buffy that the Slayer is not to have friends or family. The Watchers' Council, when they return in Season Five, openly objects to the existence of the Scooby Gang, berating Buffy for involving "civilians". Spike tells Buffy to her face in Fool For Love that she's special because she has ties to the world that Slayers never have, and that's why she's lived as long as she has. Where do you get the idea that the Council discouraging Slayers from having outside interests is Fan Wank? We see it all the time.

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*** We're explicitly told that she's not supposed to have any ties to the world. Giles tells Buffy outright in the first season that she must put slaying above all else in her life, it's a source of friction in the early days of their relationship. Wesley strongly discourages the existence of the Scooby Gang and permits it only because he's firmly outvoted and lacks any real power over Buffy. Kendra is played up as the ideal Slayer, being taken from her family and raised by her Watcher, and outright tells Buffy that the Slayer is not to have friends or family. The Watchers' Council, when they return in Season Five, openly objects to the existence of the Scooby Gang, berating Buffy for involving "civilians". Spike tells Buffy to her face in Fool For Love that she's special because she has ties to the world that Slayers never have, and that's why she's lived as long as she has. Where do you get the idea that the Council discouraging Slayers from having outside interests is Fan Wank? We see it all the time. As to the Council's opinions on the disposable nature of Slayers, one word: Cruciamentum.
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*** We're explicitly told that she's not supposed to have any ties to the world. Giles tells Buffy outright in the first season that she must put slaying above all else in her life, it's a source of friction in the early days of their relationship. Wesley strongly discourages the existence of the Scooby Gang and permits it only because he's firmly outvoted and lacks any real power over Buffy. Kendra is played up as the ideal Slayer, being taken from her family and raised by her Watcher, and outright tells Buffy that the Slayer is not to have friends or family. The Watchers' Council, when they return in Season Five, openly objects to the existence of the Scooby Gang, berating Buffy for involving "civilians". Spike tells Buffy to her face in Fool For Love that she's special because she has ties to the world that Slayers never have, and that's why she's lived as long as she has. Where do you get the idea that the Council discouraging Slayers from having outside interests is Fan Wank? We see it all the time.

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** Or maybe it's just because the First Slayer was female and it was somehow easier or whatever to keep the line one gender only.

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** Or maybe it's just because the First Slayer was female and it was somehow easier or whatever to keep the line one gender only.
** Or maybe the demonic powers the Shadow Men used are allergic to the Y-chromosome?
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** Maybe it's just that the Slayer powers are naturally drawn to females for some reason. In many cultures it's a very typical belief that women are more magical or mystical than men. Also the whole bleeding every month thing makes people associate women with dark powers.

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** Maybe it's just that the Slayer powers are naturally drawn to females for some reason. In many cultures it's a very typical belief that women are more magical or mystical than men. Also the whole bleeding every month thing makes people associate women with dark powers. And there was the thing about her being "bound to earth" (whatever that means) and earth is feminine in almost every mythology ever.
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**** There's also the practical aspect. The First going around killing the Potentials. They were already targeted so this way they at least were able to fight back. Also it's very different being The Slayer alone rather than being one of many Slayers.


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** Maybe it's just that the Slayer powers are naturally drawn to females for some reason. In many cultures it's a very typical belief that women are more magical or mystical than men. Also the whole bleeding every month thing makes people associate women with dark powers.
** Or maybe it's just because the First Slayer was female and it was somehow easier or whatever to keep the line one gender only.
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** The Jasmine arc in {{Angel}} adds extra twist to the relation between gods and religion. According to Jasmine's version of the history of Buffyverse, gods of all kinds existed before the great demons, who are actually offspring of "the malevolent among them". For eons the gods have been withdrawn from Earth and pay only peripheral attention, powering the magical mojo of those respectfully invoking them. The gods themselves seem to be so omnipotent and caught up in good-versus-evil that they don't care about the things that religion is called to explain. To them creation is nothing more than a battlefield, and magic is a mundane fact of life. No abrahamic God seems to be in the mix, but the effectiveness of a cross can be attributed to just about any powerful being willing so. Note that the cross doesn't have to be of canonical religious design to work (for practical application the longer plank is just there to hold the cross by), and faith certainly has nothing to do with it's effectiveness, as it scorches even ''the vampire holding it''. The ''only'' unexplainable thing is holy water.

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** The Jasmine arc in {{Angel}} ''Series/{{Angel}}'' adds extra twist to the relation between gods and religion. According to Jasmine's version of the history of Buffyverse, gods of all kinds existed before the great demons, who are actually offspring of "the malevolent among them". For eons the gods have been withdrawn from Earth and pay only peripheral attention, powering the magical mojo of those respectfully invoking them. The gods themselves seem to be so omnipotent and caught up in good-versus-evil that they don't care about the things that religion is called to explain. To them creation is nothing more than a battlefield, and magic is a mundane fact of life. No abrahamic God seems to be in the mix, but the effectiveness of a cross can be attributed to just about any powerful being willing so. Note that the cross doesn't have to be of canonical religious design to work (for practical application the longer plank is just there to hold the cross by), and faith certainly has nothing to do with it's effectiveness, as it scorches even ''the vampire holding it''. The ''only'' unexplainable thing is holy water.

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*** The problem with this theory is that even if Buffy's death didn't call anyone, the characters think otherwise. They act as though Buffy's third death would call someone, even if that's false. If they think that Buffy's third death would call someone, they must also think that Buffy's second death already did call someone, and they would expect another Slayer. Even if this expectation is false and no other Slayer is called, the characters should behave as though it's true.
**** WMG: The Third Slayer was Dana (the insane slayer who appeared in ''Angel'' Season 5). The Council found out, got her medical records, maybe even infiltrated the asylum the way they did with Buffy in "The Origin" so they could see for themselves, and concluded that Dana was too dangerous to be released. They might have considered offing her, but to do so could have sparked a war with the Scooby Gang, a war which the Council would almost certainly have lost.



**Faith went comatose and no new Slayer was called so the answer is that they must physically die in order for a new Slayer to be called.



**Probability alone suggests that such a thing happening is pretty damn close to impossible. Keep in mind that twin births were exceedingly rare up until the 20th century and even today they're pretty uncommon (roughly 1% of births result in twins). Then factor in that in a world of over 6 billion people, there are only thousands of potentials of those only one will be called at a time. It's possible that there is a consistent number of potentials so that even in the past there were thousands of potentials at any given time but much more likely the pool of potentials is proportional to the current population total. Thus we have a small fraction of a percent of the population who are twins and an even smaller fraction of the population who could be slayers and from there and even smaller fraction that will be slayers. The chance of it happening is something ridiculously small



***** Kendra was called there when something was happening that could require both slayers to stop. And yes, I would assume her watcher knew and was just a dick. After all, he made Kendra fly in a cargo hold, didn't he?

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***** When Kendra was called there when something was happening that could require both slayers to stop. And yes, I would assume her watcher knew and was the other Watchers probably just a dick. After all, he made Kendra fly in a cargo hold, assumed Buffy was dead and didn't he?bother to check in with Giles because they assumed he was dead too (he did mention that most Watchers die with their Slayers) and had the new Watcher send over Kendra as soon as they felt she was ready. When they found out that Buffy was still alive and protecting Sunnydale, then they recalled Kendra to use her elsewhere.
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*So in the millennia since the Shadow Men created the Slayer, until Fray, there has NEVER before been a Slayer with a twin? ''Really?''
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**** The difference was that [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment the potential slayers were already potential slayers]]. Making a random girl into a slayer is not the same as activating a potential slayer, which is an entity with some distinct mystical standing in the Buffyverse. Willow merely gave these girls access to something that was already theirs, and already a part of them. Further: since the state of girls and women has improved [[{{understatement}} just a bit]] since the stone age, these girls can truly ''wield'' the power of the slayer, unlike Sineya, who was ruled by it. Sineya didn't even have language, while the modern potentials had culture, community, and sense of their own personhood that made them stronger than their common spiritual ancestor. The first Slayer's suffering, while tragic, is now a part of their heritage, and more than just something to honor and respect; heritage is something that can be made use of. Hence Buffy's remark about the Scythe, which was the physical embodiment of the slayerdom: "It’s old, it’s strong, and it feels like it’s ''mine''."

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**** The difference was that [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment the potential slayers were already potential slayers]]. Making a random girl into a slayer is not the same as activating a potential slayer, which is an entity with some distinct mystical standing in the Buffyverse. Willow merely gave these girls access to something that was already theirs, and already a part of them. Further: since the state of girls and women has improved [[{{understatement}} just a bit]] since the stone age, these girls can truly ''wield'' the power of the slayer, unlike Sineya, who was ruled by it. Sineya didn't even have language, while the modern potentials had culture, community, and sense of their own personhood that made them stronger than their common spiritual ancestor. The first Slayer's suffering, while tragic, is now a part of their heritage, and more than just something to honor and respect; heritage is something that can be made use of. Hence Buffy's remark about the Scythe, which was the physical embodiment of the slayerdom: "It’s old, it’s strong, and it feels like it’s ''mine''."
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* We're making a lot of assumptions here as far as Slayer's not getting paid or at least kept. We know that Kendra grew up with her Watcher, that girl had she lived would most likely have NEVER gotten a job. We don't know exactly how much Giles was being paid by the counsel but his personal money problems aren't brought up at all which when you realize he was out of work for at least a full year (from the end of the Sunnydale High in season 3 to him purchasing the Magic Box which even in Sunnydale had to have been a fairly large expense. They don't even really make it sound like he was struggling then and he seems to take it over more for convienence and something to do (and not wanting these twenty somethings at his house all the damn time) than out of an actual NEED. I think most slayers are probably kept, they don't get jobs they live with or at least on their Watcher's expense. Buffy is just the odd case.


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** While yes she's supposed to be a weapon we're making the assumption that she's supposed to die and not supposed to have a family. I don't see any reason (that isn't entirely made up by the fans about how the counsel doesn't actually want Slayers to grow up)why it wouldn't be encouraged for them to have a support group. Clearly it kept Buffy alive longer than she was otherwise slated and given what we're told is the average shelf life of a slayer surely this is far from the first time it's happened.


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** I imagine in most of those cases the Council would step in and kill the Slayer. Then again Slayers are shown to physically recover really fast and while none that we're aware of lived long enough for old age to be a factor maybe they don't age like ordinary humans. There are some really fit old people in real life and they do it without any super powers just regular exercise and a good diet.
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* What would happen if a Slayer didn't die but was unable to keep fighting? Like if they get badly injured and become paralyzed, or if they go into a coma and don't wake up, or if they ''do'' manage to stay alive long enough to grow old and their bodies just can't handle fighting vampires every night.

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