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A few things concerning Faith and Watchers don't really make sense to me. After Faith's Watcher died, why wasn't she assigned a new one? Gwendolyn Post came and everyone assumed that that was her new Watcher, but it turned out that she had been kicked out of the Council. So where was her real replacement and how come they never sent one? And for that matter, how did Gwendolyn even find out about Faith needing a new Watcher in the first place? And on the topic of Watchers, why are there so many Watchers to being with if there's only one slayer?
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A few things concerning Faith and Watchers don't really make sense to me. After Faith's Watcher died, why wasn't she assigned a new one? Gwendolyn Post came and everyone assumed that that was her new Watcher, but it turned out that she had been kicked out of the Council. So where was her real replacement and how come they never sent one? And for that matter, how did Gwendolyn even find out about Faith needing a new Watcher in the first place? And on the topic of Watchers, why are there so many Watchers to being with if there's only one slayer?
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** I'd imagine there's only one active timeline at a time, and the rest are just possible, alternate histories. The wishverse is still out there, but it's like a movie that's been paused or stopped right at the point where Giles broke the amulet. You can pull things in and out of it with magic, but it's not moving forward anymore: that timeline ends with the smashing of the amulet. So in a sense, it was totally pointless to send Vamp Willow back (doubly so since she got staked before the amulet broke anyway), but the Scoobies couldn't really bring themselves to stake her, and they couldn't let her run loose in the real world. It was just a way of getting rid of her without killing her themselves.
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** I think it's probably there. It's just "Crappy-no-Slayer-verse". You know, like the one with no shrimp or the one of all shrimp.
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** To the above tropers I submit we simply didn't spend enough time in Wishworld to see the damage. Note that when Buffy does arrive this is clearly a battle hardened Buffy who's been through more trauma, based on her scars and attitude, than our Buffy went through. I think the world is like Sunnydale the Master rules Sunnydale FROM the Bronze, not the Bronze and he probably figured out something. It's probably like Angel After the Fall and the Master has a small relatively unimportant territory.
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** To the above tropers I submit we simply didn't spend enough time in Wishworld to see the damage. Note that when Buffy does arrive this is clearly a battle hardened Buffy who's been through more trauma, based on her scars and attitude, than our Buffy went through. I think the world is like Sunnydale the Master rules Sunnydale FROM the Bronze, not the Bronze and he probably figured out something. It's probably like Angel After the Fall and the Master has a small relatively unimportant territory. territory.
*** That makes Buffy's Watcher not believing Giles about Sunnydale being a hellmouth a little odd, but it would lend an extra layer of meaning to Giles saying that the Master is "the local vampire lord around these parts", if there are other vampires and supernatural figures doing the same elsewhere. And it'd explain why Cordelia's family, and other families with the means to just pack up and move away, still live in Sunnydale: maybe Sunnydale's one of the ''better'' places left in the world. As bad as he is, the Master might be the only thing that's keeping the even bigger and meaner demons at bay.
*** That makes Buffy's Watcher not believing Giles about Sunnydale being a hellmouth a little odd, but it would lend an extra layer of meaning to Giles saying that the Master is "the local vampire lord around these parts", if there are other vampires and supernatural figures doing the same elsewhere. And it'd explain why Cordelia's family, and other families with the means to just pack up and move away, still live in Sunnydale: maybe Sunnydale's one of the ''better'' places left in the world. As bad as he is, the Master might be the only thing that's keeping the even bigger and meaner demons at bay.
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* It was eliminated when Cordelia's wish was undone, right? It seems like it was pointless to send Vampire Willow home, given that the Wishverse was only going to last a few more minutes past her arrival. Otherwise, if an AlternateTimeline was permanently created, Giles must have felt pretty silly standing there after smashing the amulet at the end of 'The Wish' seeing as, from his point of view, it apparently didn't do anything. Either way, it JBM.
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* It was eliminated when Cordelia's wish was undone, right? It seems like it was pointless to send Vampire Willow home, given that the Wishverse was only going to last a few more minutes past her arrival. Otherwise, if an AlternateTimeline was permanently created, Giles must have felt pretty silly standing there after smashing the amulet at the end of 'The Wish' seeing as, from his point of view, it apparently didn't do anything. Either way, it JBM.
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*** It's implied it effects everyone, it's just that most teenagers don't notice it because they're, well, teenagers.
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*** It's implied it effects affects everyone, it's just that most teenagers don't notice it because they're, well, teenagers.teenagers.
*** Faith's story in general is filled with holes that neatly allow you to read her along a whole spectrum of gray. She does bad things ''and'' people, including the heroes, do bad things to her. A throwaway line hinting that the writers had some clue of where she was during these bits might have been nice, but unanswered questions work well for allowing people to be sympathetic to her on rewatching...
*** Faith's story in general is filled with holes that neatly allow you to read her along a whole spectrum of gray. She does bad things ''and'' people, including the heroes, do bad things to her. A throwaway line hinting that the writers had some clue of where she was during these bits might have been nice, but unanswered questions work well for allowing people to be sympathetic to her on rewatching...
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*** We really don't know what EXACTLY the demon intended to do. It possible that the number of demons able to steal souls from ensouled vampires against their will is extremely limited. Given both Spike and Angel's circumstances I'm willing to believe that there are hundreds maybe thousands of ensouled vampires. On a planet of 6 billion I can justify that ten thousand people never randomly bumped into each other.
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* They were probably afraid that Angel would lose his soul again, she Xander saw Buffy and Angel in an intimate moment. But while I think Giles had good reason to still be bothered by him either way, I agree Xander just comes across as petty and jealous about it, as he had been since the start of the season.
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Why didn't Buffy just say "it wasn't Angel that did those horrible things, it was Angelus"? Angel wasn't himself, literally. He IS his soul, and his soul was removed, leaving only the demon Angelus that tortured Giles and killed Jenny. While I forgive Xander and Giles for not being too friendly towards Angel after that, why did no one remind them Angel now has his soul and he's a good guy again? I guess Xander was still being a petty, jealous loser and Giles did sorta lose his love interest to him and got tortured by him, but still, they should've realized earlier that the Good!Angel was back.
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Why didn't Buffy just say "it wasn't Angel that did those horrible things, it was Angelus"? Angel wasn't himself, literally. He IS his soul, and his soul was removed, leaving only the demon Angelus that tortured Giles and killed Jenny. While I forgive Xander and Giles for not being too friendly towards Angel after that, why did no one remind them Angel now has his soul and he's a good guy again? I guess Xander was still being a petty, jealous loser and Giles did sorta lose his love interest to him and got tortured by him, but still, they should've realized earlier that the Good!Angel was back.
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*** She's there for the final battle in ''The Zeppo''. We see Buffy yell "Faith, go for the heart!"
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*Spike said he was skipping town with Dru, and it did sound like he wasn't coming back. While he IS a vampire, he did make it clear that he's not stupid and he's not suicidal like Angel or Dru, trying to bring the world to an end. He's looking out for himself, and picking a fight with the slayer isn't normally a good idea. Besides, Buffy didn't come back to her house after that; after saving the world, she skipped town and didn't come back for months, as shown in the Season 3 premier. I think it's excusable that with all the stuff going on, the fact that she had invited Spike, who's seemingly a non-threat, into her home just slipped her mind.
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***** Handguns are easier to conceal, which makes them more useful for things like armed robbery. If someone robs a store with a rifle they can't just stick the gun in their pocket after they've gotten away, which makes them stand out more and thus are more likely to be caught.
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* She also had no intention of killing Ben after getting him to promise to skip town, even though he certainly would've reverted to Glory and come back with a killer vengeance if Giles hadn't smothered him. Buffy is a naive moron who's way to trusting.
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** If Giles had asked the Council for money to aid Faith's living conditions, they would've laughed in his face. The Coucil are a bunch of arrogant dicks. They don't give a damn about the slayers.
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*** It's implied it effects everyone, it's just that most teenagers don't notice it because they're, well, teenagers.
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Apparently, after Buffy teamed up with Spike and thus had to invite him to her house, she didn't perform that ritual that revoked the invitation. Are you kidding me? I thought it'd be like a requisitive, like washing your hands after you come home from a hard day of garden work! What, just because he promised to skip the town they suddenly decided it wasn't worth the trouble?
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***Pretty much. If Giles ever got turned the result would probably not be him ending up like Dalton in S3, but something that would make Angelus look like Mother Theresa.
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** Fridge Brilliance; it could have been for this very reason; so that someone would care enough to stop him. As a suicide attempt, it's mildly clumsy, as a cry for help...
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** Who says that Giles must have arranged it so that the mayor would contact that particular demon? Here's a possible scenario: the Mayor contacts the demon about turning Angel evil. It's not a stretch to assume that the demon knew of Giles' connection to Angel through Buffy, since Buffy's relationships with both of them were not exactly secrets. As a result, turning Angel evil could well get Giles killed (like Ms. Calendar). Since the demon owes Giles, and presumably doesn't want him killed, he warns Giles about what the mayor is planning. Then they work out the plan to pretend to turn Angel evil. It's still sheer dumb luck that the mayor just happened to contact a demon who owed Giles a favor, but stranger things can happen on TV.
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*** In one of the Season 4 DVD interviews, the actor who plays Jonathan mentions that that character always tries to solve everything with 'one big gesture'...
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** To the above tropers I submit we simply didn't spend enough time in Wishworld to see the damage. Note that when Buffy does arrive this is clearly a battle hardened Buffy who's been through more trauma, based on her scars and attitude, than our Buffy went through. I think the world is like Sunnydale the Master rules Sunnydale FROM the Bronze, not the Bronze and he probably figured out something. It's probably like Angel After the Fall and the Master has a small relatively unimportant territory.
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**You do realize that the Watcher's job is to train the slayer to kill things and then point her at the things to be killed. It's not his job to keep her sane, comfortable or well adjusted. He's gone above and beyond with Buffy and that has tainted the view of what's expected. Notice how Giles' affection and indulgence of Buffy is considered a very bad thing by the Watchers. 'll grant you it's a failing on his part as an adult but he' not required to do anything for her benefit, Watcherwise.
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* I really think Giles holds a lot of responsibility for how things went bad with Faith. He was officially her Watcher until he was fired, and it was his job to express concern for her well-being. He was basically paid to look after her, but he never did. This was a teenage girl who had seriously been through the ringer. Seeing her Watcher brutally murdered was just the tip of the iceberg in what was presumably her life of utter suckage. In Sunnydale she was lonely, unhappy, and living in a dingy motel room (and who knows how she got the money to pay for it), but we never see Giles make any effort to reach out to her, improve her situation, and provide her with some stability, direction, or even half the affection he showed Buffy. He could have at least asked the Council for some money to provide her with better living conditions. Gwen Post did more than Giles to reach out to Faith, even if she was just faking it for evil ulterior motives. And it was quite clear from Faith's interaction with Gwen and the Mayor that she wouldn't have been too proud to accept any help, attention, and approval Giles might have provided. In fact, evidence suggests the opposite: she would have soaked it up, and it would have made her more mentally stable. It's a shame that the only people who truly expressed an interest in Faith's well-being at this point in time were the bad guys. I think that Giles' neglect of Faith is a major oversight on his part as both her Watcher and, more generally, as an adult.
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** Um, it isn't canon that Faith is older than the others. In fact, most fans get the impression that she's younger. It definitely would have been nice had they explained Faith's absences a little more. Just a line would have been nice.
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