History Headscratchers / BioShockInfinite

22nd Mar '17 7:19:08 AM Mesmiranda
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*** [[Main/WildMassGuessing Or the Elizabeths aren't there at all]]. Since none of them are wearing the brooch, none of them are "your" Elizabeth; you can tell from their clothes and appearance that they're all from different points in the timeline (during her stay in the tower, post-escape, after killing Daisy, immediately after getting tortured, from the demo version of the game). It's possible none of them are really there, and Booker is coming to the realization himself with help from the Elizabeth in his head--the same way Elizabeth has Booker in her head in ''Burial at Sea: Part 2''. The "drowning" is Booker holding his own breath and refusing to come up for air.
19th Mar '17 5:02:13 PM kithas
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** It's simple: He's taken a young compassionate woman who wanted to save a child, and threatened her to explicitly inflict a whole lot of pain on that child if she didn't cooperate. A pain Sally would actually ''heal from'', so the torture could be repeated. And that's how torture works, you try and break someone's will through pain. Some do, some don't. Elisabeth did.
19th Mar '17 4:56:23 PM kithas
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** Elizabeth is still pretty important... In her own game, that is. She also got to be important into another one's story, which is pretty cool.
19th Mar '17 4:41:47 PM kithas
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** Well, you actually get to know Atlas and his army of heavily spliced pals. The genetic arms race is already happening, just not in your token "Rich people's Mall". Big Daddies and Little Sisters are already happening (as you can see plenty of the first and a few of the latter) and their bonding is just on its primal stage.
19th Mar '17 4:26:03 PM kithas
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** Player's Booker does not replace Comstock as other characters replace their "alternate-reality" counterparts because, conceptually, Booker and Comstock weren't the same. It can be also because the method to take Booker to Columbia was a Lutece's tear (i.e. physically crossing the tear) instead of merging the two timelines which they do later (and then player!Booker actually remembers martyr!Booker's life).
19th Mar '17 4:00:47 PM kithas
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** I take it as, Liz as a reality warper may not be able to open wide Tears, but small helping ones (as she shows you during the game) so bullets get (subcounciously) transported into another timeline, and resources appear frome nowhere.
16th Mar '17 8:03:05 PM Mesmiranda
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*** Comstock is sterile because of his exposure to the tears; maybe it's lowered his testosterone levels, which would also give him a higher-pitched voice.
11th Mar '17 5:19:42 PM Mesmiranda
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* Elizabeth has no idea Comstock is her father until roughly a third of the way into the game. From her perspective, she grew up alone in a richly furnished tower, with Songbird bringing her books, food and its company and various scientists running experiments on her. Spying on her through the windows. [[Squick Filming her and taking pictures of her changing]]. She's probably more than ready to get the hell out of there by the point Booker shows up.

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* Elizabeth has no idea Comstock is her father until roughly a third of the way into the game. From her perspective, she grew up alone in a richly furnished tower, with Songbird bringing her books, food and its company and various scientists running experiments on her. Spying on her through the windows. [[Squick Filming her and taking pictures of her changing]].changing. She's probably more than ready to get the hell out of there by the point Booker shows up.
11th Mar '17 5:19:00 PM Mesmiranda
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* Elizabeth has no idea Comstock is her father until roughly a third of the way into the game. From her perspective, she grew up alone in a richly furnished tower, with Songbird bringing her books, food and its company and various scientists running experiments on her. Spying on her through the windows. [[Squick Filming her and taking pictures of her changing]]. She's probably more than ready to get the hell out of there by the point Booker shows up.



11th Feb '17 2:52:25 PM Mesmiranda
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** Google says there's a proto-form of CPR that dates back to the 18th century, where you put pressure on the victim's abdomen and try to blow air into their lungs. (And also use a bellows to blow tobacco smoke up a person's backside, in order to stimulate a reaction. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer No]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cardiopulmonary_resuscitation#First_attempts_at_resuscitation_in_the_18th_century seriously]].) Alternatively, Elizabeth or the scientists saw it through a tear and thought it was a good idea.

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** Google says there's a proto-form of CPR that dates back to the 18th century, where you put pressure on the victim's abdomen and try to blow air into their lungs. (And also use a bellows to blow tobacco smoke up a person's backside, in order to stimulate a reaction. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer [[SincerityMode No]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cardiopulmonary_resuscitation#First_attempts_at_resuscitation_in_the_18th_century seriously]].) Alternatively, Elizabeth or the scientists saw it through a tear and thought it was a good idea.
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