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*** Well he was apparently alive during the Black Plague so he probably died around the late 1300s, and really young girls were often married off back then. That’s actually hilarious, even if he had successfully married her it might not have even freed him because it wasn’t really legal and he never bothered to check.
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** Maybe it ''was'' legal for a girl Lydia's age to get married when Beetlejuice originally died, and he never bothered to check the statutes for the present day?

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** I don't think Lydia would know, or at least care about, the distinction between ghost and demon, so he's probably never been alive.




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** She's usually talking to her mother (in a sense) when she sings these lines. Since most teenage girls stop calling their parents by these terms long before Lydia's intended age, she might be using the names she'd call them as a child, a time when her mom was still alive and her family felt complete and happy.
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* Why does Lydia play charades in order to guess Beetlejuice’s name when she clearly could have heard Barbara say it?
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* If Beetlejuice needs witnesses in order to marry Lydia, it clearly needs to be a legal marriage. But in Connecticut, in order to get married below the age of 18 you need to be at least 16 and have a parents permission. Charles is kinda tied up and very clearly NOT giving his permission and Lydia is 15. So does it need to be legal or not?
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** Even as a kid, I noticed this yet intuitively processed it as RuleOfFunny.

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** The animated series gives him the respelling of Beetlejuice. You might also notice that he never says his own name in the movie, perhaps because he can unsummon himself, and doesn't want to risk it? So he unintentionally misspells his name to conform to the then current 'pronunciation' of that star... Maybe it works for him a bit like The Game, or Harry Dresden's vocal components?

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** The animated series gives him the respelling of Beetlejuice. You might also notice that he never says his own name in the movie, perhaps because he can unsummon himself, and doesn't want to risk it? So he unintentionally misspells his name to conform to the then current then-current 'pronunciation' of that star... Maybe it works for him a bit like The Game, or Harry Dresden's vocal components?



** But "Betelgeuse" ''is'' the way you actually spell the red giant's name. (That or "Betelgeux", it's optional.) You'd think that an ''advertisement'' for Beetle Juice's services wouldn't be so hard to pronounce, since he needs people to say the name out loud, correctly, thrice. Perhaps he isn't aware of how much less of a well known term that star name is now compared to when he died, or maybe he just can't spell worth a fuck himself.

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** But "Betelgeuse" ''is'' the way you actually spell the red giant's name. (That or "Betelgeux", it's optional.) You'd think that an ''advertisement'' for Beetle Juice's services wouldn't be so hard to pronounce, since he needs people to say the name out loud, correctly, thrice. Perhaps he isn't aware of how much less of a well known well-known term that star name is now compared to when he died, or maybe he just can't spell worth a fuck himself.



** Social workers in real life are overworked, undertrained, and given limited resources to do their jobs with. It's a crazy, stressful, thankless job that tends to seep out into their cases. There are obviously more people dying and wanting to talk to their social worker than there are people committing suicide to fill the positions.

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** Social workers in real life are overworked, undertrained, and given limited resources with which to do their jobs with.jobs. It's a crazy, stressful, thankless job that tends to seep out into their cases. There are obviously more people dying and wanting to talk to their social worker than there are people committing suicide to fill the positions.



* What happens after their 125 year haunting is over?

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* What happens after their 125 year years of haunting is are over?



** They show up in their house wet, but dry off. If we apply a {{Fanon}} theory from Franchise/{{Ghostbusters}}, ghosts tend to take on a physical (well, ectoplasmic) state befitting their mental state. The Maitlands are wet at first because that's how they died... but they're still mentally whole so they dry off after awhile like they'd expect to normally. They'd probably start to look like drowned corpses if they obsessed with how they died.

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** They show up in their house wet, but dry off. If we apply a {{Fanon}} theory from Franchise/{{Ghostbusters}}, ghosts tend to take on a physical (well, ectoplasmic) state befitting their mental state. The Maitlands are wet at first because that's how they died... but they're still mentally whole so they dry off after awhile a while like they'd expect to normally. They'd probably start to look like drowned corpses if they obsessed with how they died.



* Does ''every'' person who die, except for suicide victims, have to go through a "haunting" phase before they can move on to the next step of the afterlife, or were Adam and Barbara simply required to for some reason? Otherwise, considering the number of people who die every day, one would expect that there are ''thousands'' of hauntings all around the world. If that's not the case, what made the Maitlands so special that they have to haunt their house, instead of simply moving on to wherever all the other ghosts are going?

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* Does ''every'' person who die, dies, except for suicide victims, have to go through a "haunting" phase before they can move on to the next step of the afterlife, or were Adam and Barbara simply required to for some reason? Otherwise, considering the number of people who die every day, one would expect that there are ''thousands'' of hauntings all around the world. If that's not the case, what made the Maitlands so special that they have to haunt their house, instead of simply moving on to wherever all the other ghosts are going?






* The theory I've always stuck by is that ''born'' monsters have different abilities than ''created'' ones. Think about it: a human turns into a vampire when they are bitten by one, but a baby born to vampire parents is twice as much vampire as a turned human. I always thought BJ's wider range of powers, plus being barred from the land of the living unless summoned, came from being born to two ghost parents--his mom and dad died, got together, and had a baby ghost that was twice the ghost any former human could be.

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* ** The theory I've always stuck by is that ''born'' monsters have different abilities than ''created'' ones. Think about it: a human turns into a vampire when they are bitten by one, but a baby born to vampire parents is twice as much vampire as a turned human. I always thought BJ's wider range of powers, plus being barred from the land of the living unless summoned, came from being born to two ghost parents--his mom and dad died, got together, and had a baby ghost that was twice the ghost any former human could be.



* The musical seems really confused about exactly what Beetlejuice is. Beetlejuice refers to himself as a demon from hell and everyone else as being either "the living" or "ghosts". BJ acts as if he doesn't know what it feels like to have been alive, but Lydia comments that BJ is "already dead" when she pushes him out of the window, implying him to be a ghost or at least alive at some point. So....is Beetlejuice the ghost of a person who was once alive or is he a demon who was never alive to begin with?

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* The musical seems really confused about exactly what Beetlejuice is. Beetlejuice refers to himself as a demon from hell and everyone else as being either "the living" or "ghosts". BJ acts as if he doesn't know what it feels like to have been alive, but Lydia comments that BJ is "already dead" when she pushes him out of the window, implying him to be a ghost or at least alive at some point. So....So... is Beetlejuice the ghost of a person who was once alive alive, or is he a demon who was never alive to begin with?




* Why does Lydia refer to Charles as "Daddy" throughout the musical? She's a depressed {{Goth}} teenager who holds a lot of resentment for him and she doesn't call her mother (whom it seems she was much closer to) "Mommy". Tt seems weird she'd use a term associated with a DaddysGirl or someone much younger than her age. Plus she isn't consistent about it, she says "Daddy" in several songs but in some of her spoken dialogue it's "Dad." I guess maybe "Daddy" is easier to fit into song lyrics but it just doesn't jive with her overall gloomy character.

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* The musical seems really confused about exactly what Beetlejuice is. Beetlejuice refers to himself as a demon from hell and everyone else as being either "the living" or "ghosts". BJ acts as if he doesn't know what it feels like to have been alive, but Lydia comments that Bj is "already dead" when she pushes him out of the window, implying him to be a ghost or at least alive at some point. So....is Beetlejuice the ghost of a person who was once alive or is he a demon who was never alive to begin with?

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* The musical seems really confused about exactly what Beetlejuice is. Beetlejuice refers to himself as a demon from hell and everyone else as being either "the living" or "ghosts". BJ acts as if he doesn't know what it feels like to have been alive, but Lydia comments that Bj BJ is "already dead" when she pushes him out of the window, implying him to be a ghost or at least alive at some point. So....is Beetlejuice the ghost of a person who was once alive or is he a demon who was never alive to begin with?
** If [[spoiler: Juno]] is a demon in this adaptation, maybe BJ was a human with demonic powers who died and became a ghost, or maybe he's a half-demon who hasn't been the world of the living because he lives in the Netherworld/hell, which is still technically "dead" to a mortal?

* Why does Lydia refer to Charles as "Daddy" throughout the musical? She's a depressed {{Goth}} teenager who holds a lot of resentment for him and she doesn't call her mother (whom it seems she was much closer to) "Mommy". Tt seems weird she'd use a term associated with a DaddysGirl or someone much younger than her age. Plus she isn't consistent about it, she says "Daddy" in several songs but in some of her spoken dialogue it's "Dad." I guess maybe "Daddy" is easier to fit into song lyrics but it just doesn't jive with her overall gloomy character.
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* The musical seems really confused about exactly what Beetlejuice is. Beetlejuice refers to himself as a demon from hell and everyone else as being either "the living" or "ghosts". BJ acts as if he doesn't know what it feels like to have been alive, but Lydia comments that Bj is "already dead" when she pushes him out of the window, implying him to be a ghost or at least alive at some point. So....is Beetlejuice the ghost of a person who was once alive or is he a demon who was never alive to begin with?

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** ...Why? She wasn't the one who said they had to get the living out of the Maitland household--getting the Deetzes out was Adam and Barbara's main concern, not Juno's. Basically, they came to her and said "Our house has living people in it and they're ruining it, can you help stop them?", and she told them to figure it out themselves. It would be different if she specifically said, "Okay, ghosts can't live with live humans, do something about that", but since they solved their own problem with the Deetzes there is no reason for Juno to be involved in their case anymore.
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* The theory I've always stuck by is that ''born'' monsters have different abilities than ''created'' ones. Think about it: a human turns into a vampire when they are bitten by one, but a baby born to vampire parents is twice as much vampire as a turned human. I always thought BJ's wider range of powers, plus being barred from the land of the living unless summoned, came from being born to two ghost parents--his mom and dad died, got together, and had a baby ghost that was twice the ghost any former human could be.
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** It's an ethnic joke about [[RambunctiousItalian Rambunctious Italians]]
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* Isn't Juno going to come back for the Maitlands when she learns they've accepted the Deetzes in their home?
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* Prior depictions of the desert show it to be a YearOutsideHourInside type of place. How then could Barbara return in time with the sand worm if even seconds there translate to hours in the real world?
* While the Maitlands were still alive, they lived in a large and beautiful house that they clearly loved. But Jane (however she's related to them) kept showing people pictures of the house as though she were authorized to sell it on their behalf. How was that even remotely legal?
** It's not, but in the small town they live in she's treated more as a pest rather than a harasser. Sometimes TruthInTelevision, sadly.
** Also, Adam's clearly on somewhat friendly terms with her, and his first instinct seeing her post mortem is a friendly wave. Since the Maitlands were specifically shown to have no children, it's possible the town simply had Jane resell the house since they had no next of kin.
*** Someone would have been in charge of the Maitland's estate, an executor they chose if they had a will, a court-appointed official if not (details depending on local laws) and whoever it was, that person would naturally sell the now-unoccupied house, and would call the local realtor to do it.
** Jane was related to Barbara (sister?) so she was probably the executrix of the estate and sold the house as soon as she was able. She already had an offer from Charles before the movie time started.
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** The Maitlands didn't die when they were supposed to, so they have to wait for their paperwork to be processed. The receptionist even says it'll be 125 years before they can move on. Presumably, those who die of old age or disease are expected to die, so the bureaucrats have their paperwork ready so they can move on. The Maitlands, and the other people in the waiting room who died from accidents (the guy who choked to death, the smoker who burned to death), were unexpected deaths and so will take longer to process.
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***Secondary thought, Italy is home to Rome and the Vatican. Lots of Catholic Priests, so ghosts would have to be very quiet and keep to themselves, or risk quick exorcism.
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*** Tracheotomy removal doesn't involve slitting the throat from ear to ear. If you watch in the scene where she vanishes from in front of the town model, her throat is cut all the way across, and the cut runs well below where a tracheotomy scar would be.

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*** Tracheotomy removal surgery doesn't involve slitting the throat from ear to ear. If you watch in the scene where she vanishes from in front of the town model, her throat is cut all the way across, and the cut runs well below where a tracheotomy scar would be.
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****Tracheotomy removal doesn't involve slitting the throat from ear to ear. If you watch in the scene where she vanishes from in front of the town model, her throat is cut all the way across, and the cut runs well below where a tracheotomy scar would be.
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**The character, in her introduction, talks about having an offer from a man who wants to bring the family down to relax. I am willing to bet money this was the Deetzes, and that she already had the paperwork done up and this is why she was trying to hard to get a signature from Adam and Barbara. And then there's the fact that she sold them the house to start with, so I'm betting after death it came right back to her.
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** Keep in mind that Tim Burton has a love of old B-movies (see ''Film/EdWood''), and "Saturn" does sort of resemble how the planet might be depicted in an old, B-grade sci-fi flick.
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* In the Creator/EdgarAllanPoe-themed episode, a lot of thematically terrifying things happen to Our Intrepid Antihero, including getting put in four-point restraints under a descending razor pendulum. Sure, it's a ShoutOut to ''The Pit And The Pendulum,'' but BJ frequently voluntarily dismembers himself with no lasting harm, and besides which, ''he's already dead''. He dwells in the Neitherworld. Why is he freaking out so hard about getting bisected?

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* In the Creator/EdgarAllanPoe-themed episode, a lot of thematically terrifying things happen to Our Intrepid Antihero, including getting put in four-point restraints under a descending razor pendulum. Sure, it's a ShoutOut to ''The Pit And The Pendulum,'' ''Literature/ThePitAndThePendulum,'' but BJ frequently voluntarily dismembers himself with no lasting harm, and besides which, ''he's already dead''. He dwells in the Neitherworld. Why is he freaking out so hard about getting bisected?
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** Saturn is clearly another part of [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Hueco Mundo]] and the Sandworms are Hollows, which is why they eat ghosts(Wholes).

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** Saturn is clearly another part of [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Hueco Mundo]] and the Sandworms are Hollows, which is why they eat ghosts(Wholes).ghosts (Wholes).



** Such is the way of the Baldwin. It is far more enlightened and erudite than our own, to question a Baldwin in anyway is madness.

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** Such is the way of the Baldwin. It is far more enlightened and erudite than our own, to question a Baldwin in anyway any way is madness.
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* Another element that JustBugsMe, though it's not really a problem with the movie, is that this troper always wanted to learn more about "Saturn" and the sandworms. Was it the real planet Saturn (seems pretty unlikely, with Saturn being a gas giant and all), or another dimension with the same name (since stepping out of the house takes them there, maybe it's a parallel ghost reality)? Wiki/TheOtherWiki says that in an earlier draft, it was called Titan rather than Saturn (which might explain the giant moon in the sky: that's probably Saturn itself), and that might still work, since Betelgeuse says "you've been to Saturn" (he didn't say they've been "on" Saturn, so maybe he meant the Saturn moons). The sandworms could apparently see and eat ghosts, which just adds to strangeness of it all. There's no way the movie could've gotten into the details without [[MST3KMantra bogging things down]], but there's so much mystery behind that plot element, and Saturn and its sandworms are just so weird and cool that I'd love to hear the writers talk more about what they had in mind.

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* Another element that JustBugsMe, bugs me, though it's not really a problem with the movie, is that this troper always wanted to learn more about "Saturn" and the sandworms. Was it the real planet Saturn (seems pretty unlikely, with Saturn being a gas giant and all), or another dimension with the same name (since stepping out of the house takes them there, maybe it's a parallel ghost reality)? Wiki/TheOtherWiki says that in an earlier draft, it was called Titan rather than Saturn (which might explain the giant moon in the sky: that's probably Saturn itself), and that might still work, since Betelgeuse says "you've been to Saturn" (he didn't say they've been "on" Saturn, so maybe he meant the Saturn moons). The sandworms could apparently see and eat ghosts, which just adds to strangeness of it all. There's no way the movie could've gotten into the details without [[MST3KMantra bogging things down]], but there's so much mystery behind that plot element, and Saturn and its sandworms are just so weird and cool that I'd love to hear the writers talk more about what they had in mind.
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* Even allowing for the passage of time while the Maitlands were in the waiting room, wasn't Barbara's greedy realtor cousin able to swoop in and sell the house pretty damn fast? One assumes they paid their taxes and were at least up to date on the mortgage, and a search for other possible heirs to take it over can't be done instantly, can it? I guess [[{{Headscratchers}} It Just Bugs Me]] all the more because the realtor-cousin is one of those annoying bit characters who never seem to be the targets of any comeuppance. It's one thing when a main character is a KarmaHoudini; it's another when it's this off to the side, never seen again maroon.

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* Even allowing for the passage of time while the Maitlands were in the waiting room, wasn't Barbara's greedy realtor cousin able to swoop in and sell the house pretty damn fast? One assumes they paid their taxes and were at least up to date on the mortgage, and a search for other possible heirs to take it over can't be done instantly, can it? I guess [[{{Headscratchers}} [[Headscratchers/HomePage It Just Bugs Me]] all the more because the realtor-cousin is one of those annoying bit characters who never seem to be the targets of any comeuppance. It's one thing when a main character is a KarmaHoudini; it's another when it's this off to the side, never seen again maroon.
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** Maybe Juno just wanted some time away from them so she could get back to processing the cases that were already in front of her? Adam and Barbara won't be seen for 125 years, so them hanging around her office doesn't really serve any purpose.
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* What did Juno mean when she told the Maitlands "Seems pretty quiet here. You should thank God you didn't die in Italy."?

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* What did Juno mean when she told the Maitlands "Seems pretty quiet here. You should thank God you didn't die in Italy."?Italy"?
** Presumably Italy is so filled with ghosts that it's a pretty miserable place to, er, haunt.
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* Another element that JustBugsMe, though it's not really a problem with the movie, is that this troper always wanted to learn more about "Saturn" and the sandworms. Was it the real planet Saturn (seems pretty unlikely, with Saturn being a gas giant and all), or another dimension with the same name (since stepping out of the house takes them there, maybe it's a parallel ghost reality)? TheOtherWiki says that in an earlier draft, it was called Titan rather than Saturn (which might explain the giant moon in the sky: that's probably Saturn itself), and that might still work, since Betelgeuse says "you've been to Saturn" (he didn't say they've been "on" Saturn, so maybe he meant the Saturn moons). The sandworms could apparently see and eat ghosts, which just adds to strangeness of it all. There's no way the movie could've gotten into the details without [[MST3KMantra bogging things down]], but there's so much mystery behind that plot element, and Saturn and its sandworms are just so weird and cool that I'd love to hear the writers talk more about what they had in mind.

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* Another element that JustBugsMe, though it's not really a problem with the movie, is that this troper always wanted to learn more about "Saturn" and the sandworms. Was it the real planet Saturn (seems pretty unlikely, with Saturn being a gas giant and all), or another dimension with the same name (since stepping out of the house takes them there, maybe it's a parallel ghost reality)? TheOtherWiki Wiki/TheOtherWiki says that in an earlier draft, it was called Titan rather than Saturn (which might explain the giant moon in the sky: that's probably Saturn itself), and that might still work, since Betelgeuse says "you've been to Saturn" (he didn't say they've been "on" Saturn, so maybe he meant the Saturn moons). The sandworms could apparently see and eat ghosts, which just adds to strangeness of it all. There's no way the movie could've gotten into the details without [[MST3KMantra bogging things down]], but there's so much mystery behind that plot element, and Saturn and its sandworms are just so weird and cool that I'd love to hear the writers talk more about what they had in mind.
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* What did Juno mean when she told the Maitlands "Seems pretty quiet here. You should thank God you didn't die in Italy."?
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** From what I've read and heard, hauntings are due to the deceased still having something unfinished in their (after)life, and wont' be at rest until their desire is met. This is logical in the case of the Maitlands, who desired having a child, but died before they could even accomplish it.

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