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* When the contest ends, what happens to the bodies of the students who died?

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* When the contest ends, what happens to the bodies of the students who died?died?
* In the film, the purpose of the game was to stop youth delinquency. However, the government lets Kiriyama participate in the game because he wanted to do it "for fun." Saying this, doesn't this go ''against'' what the government tried to do in the first place?
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** I'm a Marine chiming in here. It's not that firing and reloading guns is a complicated skill, it's not. However hitting a target, particularly a moving one is quite a bit more complicated than it sounds. A lot of the stuff you see on television with people running, firing one handed while hitting another running target is borderline impossible. It doesn't bother me that the kids can shoot because some people are naturally good shots and in a novel I'm willing to accept that the kids just happen to be naturally good shots though.
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** I was under the impression that Kiriyama had taken a pole through the brain (this actually happened to a dude in reality, by the way - he lived, but turned from an honest hard-working guy into a lying, cheating prick) and that Noriko's shot went straight through the resultant gap/hole, actually missing his ''brain''.

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** I was under the impression that Kiriyama had taken a pole through the brain (this actually happened to a dude in reality, by the way - he lived, but turned from an honest hard-working guy into a lying, cheating prick) and that Noriko's shot went straight through the resultant gap/hole, actually missing his ''brain''.''brain''.
* When the contest ends, what happens to the bodies of the students who died?
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** Well, it seems like someone didn't do their homework. It's possible to be shot in the head and not die. In fact, there are quite a couple of reports in the news of people who get severely brain-damaged by being shot in the head, and some people are sent into shock, but otherwise would recover after a while. I must admit, though, the ending was pretty sappy.

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** Well, it seems like someone didn't do their homework. It's possible to be shot in the head and not die. In fact, there are quite a couple of reports in the news of people who get severely brain-damaged by being shot in the head, and some people are sent into shock, but otherwise would recover after a while. I must admit, though, the ending was pretty sappy.sappy.
** I was under the impression that Kiriyama had taken a pole through the brain (this actually happened to a dude in reality, by the way - he lived, but turned from an honest hard-working guy into a lying, cheating prick) and that Noriko's shot went straight through the resultant gap/hole, actually missing his ''brain''.
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** What would it achieve, anyways? The Director is just the head pawn of The Program. Killing him won't get their kids back, it'll probably just send the government after them and any family/friends they might have left, and another Director will take over the next year anyways.
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** Also, if they gave her the gun before, she WOULD NOT shoot a soul, unless it was Kiriyama. She had the same delusions as Shuya that everyone was redeemable, and keep in mind that she didn't even shoot Kiriyama until Shogo was already down. This and the above statement make for a very powerful scene, especially since Shogo had to convince her that she DIDN'T kill him to save her sanity.
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*** Calling it Pro-taliban is stretching it. Sure, they appears to be ending up in Afganistan, but where else to run when you a pinned as a terrorist organisation by one of the major military powers, thats not affraid to use it? I see it as lesser of two evils
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** The manga depiction of Shuya was just a sappy tear-fest, from beginning to end.

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** The manga depiction of Shuya was just a sappy tear-fest, from beginning to end.end.
** Well, it seems like someone didn't do their homework. It's possible to be shot in the head and not die. In fact, there are quite a couple of reports in the news of people who get severely brain-damaged by being shot in the head, and some people are sent into shock, but otherwise would recover after a while. I must admit, though, the ending was pretty sappy.
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** Because Noriko, right before Shuya, is the most pacifist character in the story who survives through to the end. She's also an extremely average girl with no particular aptitudes or interests, someone who would fade into the background in nearly any other situation. Having ''her'' be pushed so far as to kill the unbeatable, unkillable, more-awesome-than-thou psychopath at the very last second makes for the best dramatic impact for what it means to all the characters involved. Her being a girl doesn't matter ''as much'' as her "unremarkable shrinking violet" status and her "David vs Goliath" situation, but yes, there is that "weaker innocent girl overcoming more powerful violent man" thing at play too.
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**** Viz only did the novel, TokyoPop handled the manga and its regrettable translation choices.
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* As much as I loved the manga, the ultimate showdown with Kiriyama was teeth-grindingly frustrating. Noriko's shot should have killed him, how does a person maintain functionality with a bullet through their brain? And then the climactic and gripping finale turns into Dragonball Z when ''four issues'' pass between the time Shuya starts acting and the time he finally just shoots the bastard. All the while having yet another sappy tear fest about all of the people who have died and how he's ending it now.

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* As much as I loved the manga, the ultimate showdown with Kiriyama was teeth-grindingly frustrating. Noriko's shot should have killed him, how does a person maintain functionality with a bullet through their brain? And then the climactic and gripping finale turns into Dragonball Z when ''four issues'' pass between the time Shuya starts acting and the time he finally just shoots the bastard. All the while having yet another sappy tear fest about all of the people who have died and how he's ending it now.now.
** The manga depiction of Shuya was just a sappy tear-fest, from beginning to end.
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** The Greater East Asia Republic is extremely isolationist, like a few real-world countries. We don't know what the hell is going on inside North Korea.

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** The Greater East Asia Republic is extremely isolationist, like a few real-world countries. We don't know what the hell is going on inside North Korea.Korea.
* As much as I loved the manga, the ultimate showdown with Kiriyama was teeth-grindingly frustrating. Noriko's shot should have killed him, how does a person maintain functionality with a bullet through their brain? And then the climactic and gripping finale turns into Dragonball Z when ''four issues'' pass between the time Shuya starts acting and the time he finally just shoots the bastard. All the while having yet another sappy tear fest about all of the people who have died and how he's ending it now.
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** Flanderization aside, I thought the reality TV show was a clever gimmick. For all of the money that the dictatorship is putting into the Program, what do they get back out of it? A fearful populace, certainly, but that doesn't exactly balance the books and there are plenty of cheaper ways to induce fear in a society. So instead of pouring tons of money into something and not getting anything very useful back out of it, they do the same thing they were already doing only find a way to turn a profit from it, as well.
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**** Or the student's host family lies and said the student disappeared.

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**** Or the student's host family lies and said the student disappeared.disappeared.
** The Greater East Asia Republic is extremely isolationist, like a few real-world countries. We don't know what the hell is going on inside North Korea.
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*** Which makes little sense when applied to the manga, since a French foreign exchange student ends up in Shogo's game and gets killed. It only makes sense if the government of Greater East Asia lies and portrays it as an accident of some kind.

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*** Which makes little sense when applied to the manga, since a French foreign exchange student ends up in Shogo's game and gets killed. It only makes sense if the government of Greater East Asia lies and portrays it as an accident of some kind.kind.
**** Or the student's host family lies and said the student disappeared.

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** I've always wondered what's stopped someone from being issued a gun or grenades, opening the bag right outside the door, and just shooting the director and the soldiers right then and there. It's not like there's any guards or even lights in the hallway, at least not in the manga.

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** * I've always wondered what's stopped someone from being issued a gun or grenades, opening the bag right outside the door, and just shooting the director and the soldiers right then and there. It's not like there's any guards or even lights in the hallway, at least not in the manga.manga.
** In the book, the hallway was lined with guards. As for the manga...well, Kamon could just blow up the collar if the wearer comes back into the classroom. Not to mention that the student would be outnumbered four to one in a firefight.

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* Why is the rest of the world letting "East asia" get away with this? Also how did Japan win WW2?
** In the novels, it's outright stated that the rest of the world doesn't know anything about Japan's inner mechanisms because of its policy of isolation i.e. no-one knows what goes on inside Japan just that the stuff they make is high quality.

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* Why is the rest of the world letting "East asia" Asia" get away with this? Also how did Japan win WW2?
** In the novels, it's outright stated that the rest of the world doesn't know anything about Japan's inner mechanisms because of its policy of isolation i.e. no-one knows what goes on inside Japan just that the stuff they make is high quality.quality.
*** Which makes little sense when applied to the manga, since a French foreign exchange student ends up in Shogo's game and gets killed. It only makes sense if the government of Greater East Asia lies and portrays it as an accident of some kind.
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** I've always wondered what's stopped someone from being issued a gun or grenades, opening the bag right outside the door, and just shooting the director and the soldiers right then and there. It's not like there's any guards or even lights in the hallway, at least not in the manga.
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** In the novels, it's outright stated that the rest of the world doesn't know anything about Japan's inner mechanisms because of its policy of isolation i.e. no-one knows what goes on inside Japan just that the stuff they make is high quality.
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* Why is the rest of the world letting Japan get away with this? Even if we assume that all of Japan is experiencing synchronized insanity the U.N would be all over this. Hell, Japan doesn't even have the capacity to stop people from stopping them.

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* Why is the rest of the world letting Japan "East asia" get away with this? Even if we assume that all of Also how did Japan is experiencing synchronized insanity the U.N would be all over this. Hell, Japan doesn't even have the capacity to stop people from stopping them.
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*Why is the rest of the world letting Japan get away with this? Even if we assume that all of Japan is experiencing synchronized insanity the U.N would be all over this. Hell, Japan doesn't even have the capacity to stop people from stopping them.

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** There Was No Sequel. There was some movie that was pro-Taliban that tried to be a sequel, but no one should watch it.
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* ThisTroper would love to know what kind of relations there were between the students before they ended up in the Battle Royale Program. For example, what was Shuya's impression of Shogo before? What was the relation between Mitsuko's "delinquents" and Kiriyama's?

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* ThisTroper This Troper would love to know what kind of relations there were between the students before they ended up in the Battle Royale Program. For example, what was Shuya's impression of Shogo before? What was the relation between Mitsuko's "delinquents" and Kiriyama's?



* ThisTroper loves ''Battle Royale'' (the novel and manga more than the movie) but would love to know how someone like the director can survive. After every iteration of the Program, you'd probably have heartbroken parents with nothing left to live for looking for him...and Japan isn't ''that'' big. Particularly since he mentions, in the manga at least, that even high-ranking officials and ''yakuza'' leaders can have their kids taken...those guys can probably trace his real name and address.

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* ThisTroper This Troper loves ''Battle Royale'' (the novel and manga more than the movie) but would love to know how someone like the director can survive. After every iteration of the Program, you'd probably have heartbroken parents with nothing left to live for looking for him...and Japan isn't ''that'' big. Particularly since he mentions, in the manga at least, that even high-ranking officials and ''yakuza'' leaders can have their kids taken...those guys can probably trace his real name and address.
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** The Program in the sequel was a mass execution to scare the Wild Seven, rather than a military operation. The government were forcing them to kill teenagers like themselves, instead of bombing them at once.
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* Why is it in the sequel they make the exploding collars so if one kid dies the kid sharing the same number also dies? Since they're supposed to be in a war that seems counterproductive, since if one kid dies you'll soon be yet another kid down for no reason.
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** Of course they can afford 42 guns. There are two reasons why they don't give guns to all the kids: 1) Because the varying weapons make the game more random, and 2) Because the students outnumber the soldiers already, and would then have superior firepower if all of them had guns.
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** Firing and reloading guns isn't an extremely complicated skill to learn, y'know. The maintenance and repair of them, sure, but you don't need to drown in the things to know basic use.
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** They did hear and did prevent the plan. Shinji was was high on the tier list, which is why he wasn't killed outright. Also [[spoiler: they couldn't seem to afford 42 guns]]
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** Also, in the original novel, several characters states that there were instructions following their weapons, especially the guns. Some, however, only noted that they did not bother reading because they already knew...

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*** For that matter, the collars have microphones and such in them; how is it that the Program directors didn't catch on to Shinji's plan when they should have easily heard him outright telling Yutaka what he was going to do?
*** There's probably only so many they can listen in on at a time. If, say, Mitsuko's doing something interesting, and Kiriyama's being followed avidly, they might not be tuned in to Shinji. Also, Shinji and Yutaka were communicating by written notes.

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*** * For that matter, the collars have microphones and such in them; how is it that the Program directors didn't catch on to Shinji's plan when they should have easily heard him outright telling Yutaka what he was going to do?
*** ** There's probably only so many they can listen in on at a time. If, say, Mitsuko's doing something interesting, and Kiriyama's being followed avidly, they might not be tuned in to Shinji. Also, Shinji and Yutaka were communicating by written notes.notes.
** It's still nagging. You'd think that a fascist dictatorship, if they force forty-two teenagers to kill each other, could at least afford to have forty-two supervisors.

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