History Headscratchers / Batman

16th May '18 7:01:33 PM darkemyst
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** It's a complicated question. Before ''Zero Hour'', yes. Robin/Nightwing was well known as the leader of the Teen Titans, which was reasonably well-respected as a superhero team. After ''Zero Hour'', however, the entire Batman family was retconned into being--and always having been--thought of as an urban legend by the general populace, hotly debated as existing or not. That being the case, the answer is probably no, because people weren't even certain Robin existed until some time after Tim Drake took over the suit (during ''War Games'', I believe). But since ''War Games'', there's been ''Infinite Crisis'' and ''Final Crisis'', which changed some history around.

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** It's a complicated question. Before ''Zero Hour'', yes. Robin/Nightwing Robin/ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} was well known as the leader of the Teen Titans, which was reasonably well-respected as a superhero team. After ''Zero Hour'', however, the entire Batman family was retconned into being--and always having been--thought of as an urban legend by the general populace, hotly debated as existing or not. That being the case, the answer is probably no, because people weren't even certain Robin existed until some time after [[ComicBook/RobinSeries Tim Drake Drake]] took over the suit (during ''War Games'', I believe). But since ''War Games'', there's been ''Infinite Crisis'' and ''Final Crisis'', which changed some history around.



* In current (New 52) continuity Nightwing's identity was exposed during the ''Forever Evil'' event and Dick is no longer using that name. The general public does not know that Nightwing used to be Robin, as that would have exposed Batman's secret identity too.

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* In current (New 52) the New 52 continuity Nightwing's identity was exposed during the ''Forever Evil'' event and Dick is no longer using that name. The general public does not know that Nightwing used to be Robin, as that would have exposed Batman's secret identity too.
6th May '18 1:05:48 AM Luppercus
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** In conclusion: The Joker is crazy, but is not that crazy, he knows he can't survive a war against all the other supercriminals, some of them as crazy and sadistic as he is.
2nd May '18 6:49:04 AM Doug86
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* There's also that Bruce can just say he's home-schooling them if it ever becomes necessary to pull them out of the school system for a semester or so. Nobody's going to seriously question the richest man in town if he wants to 'hire private tutors' for his kids, and all of the Robins have really high IQs and could pass any standard high school assessment test ever made with ''no'' teaching and just a couple weeks of cramming. And given Bruce Wayne's reputation for being a rich idiot subject to lots of whims, its not going to raise too many eyebrows if he keeps going 'Home-school! No, prep school! No, ordinary high school! No... what was I saying again?'

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* There's also that Bruce can just say he's home-schooling them if it ever becomes necessary to pull them out of the school system for a semester or so. Nobody's going to seriously question the richest man in town if he wants to 'hire private tutors' for his kids, and all of the Robins have really high IQs [=IQs=] and could pass any standard high school assessment test ever made with ''no'' teaching and just a couple weeks of cramming. And given Bruce Wayne's reputation for being a rich idiot subject to lots of whims, its not going to raise too many eyebrows if he keeps going 'Home-school! No, prep school! No, ordinary high school! No... what was I saying again?'
29th Mar '18 9:57:11 PM DoctorNemesis
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*** Well, the "he doesn't want to kill anyone" point, but also, it's hard to control the effects of explosives, and the higher the yield, the higher the risk of people other than the target (including himself) getting caught up in the blast or ensuing shrapnel and possibly killed or seriously injured. Using a low-yield explosive ensures that the blast is smaller, there's less shrapnel and consequently less chance that people will get hurt or killed.
24th Mar '18 4:21:36 PM nombretomado
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*** ...Pop guns? A ''hot air balloon''? '''Wiring cafeteria sausage into the conducting wires?''' Okay, once again I hate for this to sound like complaining, but these are some of the most ridiculous and contrived methods I've ever heard of, even by comic book standards. To me, all this does is confirm the Joker as some sort of MaryTzu whose {{Gambit Roulette}}s turn out almost flawlessly every single time. He never miscalculates, he always reads a situation perfectly, {{Contrived Coincidence}}s always turn out in his favor, and his ridiculously circuitous plans are never derailed by some SpannerInTheWorks. I mean, at least with Batman we have some sort of explanation of WhereDoesHeGetAllThoseWonderfulToys, and a background that confirms his training. But the Joker's exploits are ''far'' too much for me to accept from a guy with no discernible powers or resources. Granted, maybe I shouldn't be reading these comics, since I was left extremely annoyed by what seemed to me to be [[GambitPileup Gambit Pileups]] in stories like ''Hush'' and ''The Long Halloween'', along with ItJustBugsMe moments like how Calendar Man could possibly have known who the Holiday Killer was...

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*** ...Pop guns? A ''hot air balloon''? '''Wiring cafeteria sausage into the conducting wires?''' Okay, once again I hate for this to sound like complaining, but these are some of the most ridiculous and contrived methods I've ever heard of, even by comic book standards. To me, all this does is confirm the Joker as some sort of MaryTzu whose {{Gambit Roulette}}s turn out almost flawlessly every single time. He never miscalculates, he always reads a situation perfectly, {{Contrived Coincidence}}s always turn out in his favor, and his ridiculously circuitous plans are never derailed by some SpannerInTheWorks. I mean, at least with Batman we have some sort of explanation of WhereDoesHeGetAllThoseWonderfulToys, and a background that confirms his training. But the Joker's exploits are ''far'' too much for me to accept from a guy with no discernible powers or resources. Granted, maybe I shouldn't be reading these comics, since I was left extremely annoyed by what seemed to me to be [[GambitPileup Gambit Pileups]] in stories like ''Hush'' and ''The Long Halloween'', along with ItJustBugsMe Headscratchers moments like how Calendar Man could possibly have known who the Holiday Killer was...
20th Mar '18 1:57:12 PM Lawyerdude
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** He may not have all his gadgets on him at a time. If he knows who he's going after, he'll pick the gear best suited for his opponent and the circumstances.
11th Mar '18 5:55:08 PM yugi195
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** Isn't that why the made ''Series/{{Gotham}}?

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** Isn't that why the they made ''Series/{{Gotham}}?



** If Batman needs to get around inconspicuously, he simply changes to being Bruce Wayne and takes one of his many, many normal (if more conspicuously ostentatious) cars he owns. If he needs a less obvious car than that, then he buys one. He is ''very'' rich.



** Because unless he steals weapon routinely that doesn't make much sense. How can a soldier can maintain a car and a jet like that without funds and how come the gadgets look like some of Wayne Tech's prototype? Plus the playboy millionaire is surprisingly recluse and invest in gargoyles all over Gotham.

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** Because unless he steals weapon routinely that doesn't make much sense. How can a soldier can maintain a car and a jet like that without funds and how come the gadgets look like some of Wayne Tech's prototype? Plus the playboy millionaire is surprisingly recluse and invest in gargoyles all over Gotham.
11th Mar '18 5:41:25 PM yugi195
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** Plus there's the fact that the Joker has a very intimate knowledge of Batman's mind and his methods. Odds are if Bruce had simply changed his costume and superhero name, the Joker would still have recognized that it was him and would have returned. Bruce would probably have to completely change the way he operates as a superhero, which would be difficult since it would require rethinking everything he'd come up with for Batman.
15th Feb '18 2:51:17 PM SteveMB
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** I think some thugs believe Scarface is actually some kind of [[Film/ChildsPlay Chucky]]-esque possessed dummy.
** Well in the animated series one of Wesker’s minions forgets the rule of speaking to the dummy and ask a question directly to Wesker, causing “Scarface” to enrage, and Rhino to calm him down with “he’s knew and doesn’t know the rules”, so this seem to imply (in the TAS) that they do know he’s just crazy, but a criminal mastermind so is better to follow his lead.

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** I think some thugs believe Scarface is actually some kind of [[Film/ChildsPlay Chucky]]-esque [[DemonicDummy possessed dummy.
dummy]].
** Well in the animated series one of Wesker’s minions forgets the rule of speaking to the dummy and ask a question directly to Wesker, causing “Scarface” to enrage, and Rhino to calm him down with “he’s knew new and doesn’t know the rules”, so this seem to imply (in the TAS) that they do know he’s just crazy, but a criminal mastermind so is better to follow his lead.
14th Feb '18 3:48:09 PM SteveMB
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*** As Bruce on a date, he is no doubt impeccably cleaned and groomed. As Batman... well, crimefighting is sweaty work.
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