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\n** Also the four nations can be seen really as four races, in a similar way how the classic, now obsolete, classification of humans was into White, Black, Yellow and Red, but each have lots of different subdisions of nations, peoples, tribes and clans. Nowdays the division is more scientific but is still only of three main branches of humanity; Mongoloid, Caucasoid and Negroid. Another example is Huntington's famous book ''Clash of Civilizations'' that divides the world in seven main civilizations (Western, Orthodox, Islamic, Buddhist, etc) but each is further divided in countries and regions.
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*** The Air Nomads were wiped out because the Fire Nation wanted to stop blank the Avatar cycle. With no Air Nation the Avatar can not be reborn and the cycle stops. This was not a problem with the other nations as it wasn't their turn. If the Avatar was to be for the Water Tribes then the Water Tribes would have been the ones eliminated and the Air Nomads still would be around, and son on. Not wanting to deliver a child doesn't make sense for a genocide of that escale as even assuming all 100% of Air Nomads nor even one was willing to do it, there was still children, infants, elderly and other civilians who were not in the fight, and also as actual ''nomads'' the Fire Lord had to literally hunt them down all over the world. Too much effort just to erradicate a people because they didn't wanted to give a kid. The genocide only makes sense if they wanted to stop the existence of an Avatar forever. (Of course it coulde be argue that they have no way to know if without the Air Nomads the Avatar would just jump to the next one but otherwise the plan makes no sense as the amount of effort and resources to eliminate an entire nation would not be justify if they thought that is just going to jump to the next one, they were convice that no more Avatar would ever appear afterwards).

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*** The Air Nomads were wiped out because the Fire Nation wanted to stop blank the Avatar cycle. With no Air Nation the Avatar can not be reborn and the cycle stops. This was not a problem with the other nations as it wasn't their turn. If the Avatar was to be for the Water Tribes then the Water Tribes would have been the ones eliminated and the Air Nomads still would be around, and son on. Not wanting to deliver a child doesn't make sense for a genocide of that escale as even assuming all 100% of Air Nomads nor even one was willing to do it, there was still children, infants, elderly and other civilians who were not in the fight, and also as actual ''nomads'' the Fire Lord had to literally hunt them down all over the world. Too much effort just to erradicate a people because they didn't wanted to give a kid. The genocide only makes sense if they wanted to stop the existence of an Avatar forever. (Of course it coulde could be argue that they have no way to know if without the Air Nomads the Avatar would just jump to the next one but otherwise the plan makes no sense as the amount of effort and resources to eliminate an entire nation would not be justify if they thought that is just going to jump to the next one, they were convice that no more Avatar would ever appear afterwards).
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*** The Air Nomads were wiped out because the Fire Nation wanted to stop blank the Avatar cycle. With no Air Nation the Avatar can not be reborn and the cycle stops. This was not a problem with the other nations as it wasn't their turn. If the Avatar was to be for the Water Tribes then the Water Tribes would have been the ones eliminated and the Air Nomads still would be around, and son on. Not wanting to deliver a child doesn't make sense for a genocide of that escale as even assuming all 100% of Air Nomads nor even wan was willing to do it, there was still children, infants, elderly and other civilians who were not in the fight, and also as actual ''nomads'' the Fire Lord had to literally hunt them down all over the world. Too much effort just to erradicate a people because they didn't wanted to give a kid. The genocide only makes sense if they wanted to stop the existence of an Avatar forever. (Of course it coulde be argue that they have no way to know if without the Air Nomads the Avatar would just jump to the next one but otherwise the plan makes no sense as the amount of effort and resources to eliminate an entire nation would not be justify if they thought that is just going to jump to the next one, they were convice that no more Avatar would ever appear afterwards).

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*** The Air Nomads were wiped out because the Fire Nation wanted to stop blank the Avatar cycle. With no Air Nation the Avatar can not be reborn and the cycle stops. This was not a problem with the other nations as it wasn't their turn. If the Avatar was to be for the Water Tribes then the Water Tribes would have been the ones eliminated and the Air Nomads still would be around, and son on. Not wanting to deliver a child doesn't make sense for a genocide of that escale as even assuming all 100% of Air Nomads nor even wan one was willing to do it, there was still children, infants, elderly and other civilians who were not in the fight, and also as actual ''nomads'' the Fire Lord had to literally hunt them down all over the world. Too much effort just to erradicate a people because they didn't wanted to give a kid. The genocide only makes sense if they wanted to stop the existence of an Avatar forever. (Of course it coulde be argue that they have no way to know if without the Air Nomads the Avatar would just jump to the next one but otherwise the plan makes no sense as the amount of effort and resources to eliminate an entire nation would not be justify if they thought that is just going to jump to the next one, they were convice that no more Avatar would ever appear afterwards).
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**** The Air Nomads were wiped out because the Fire Nation wanted to stop blank the Avatar cycle. With no Air Nation the Avatar can not be reborn and the cycle stops. This was not a problem with the other nations as it wasn't their turn. If the Avatar was to be for the Water Tribes then the Water Tribes would have been the ones eliminated and the Air Nomads still would be around, and son on. Not wanting to deliver a child doesn't make sense for a genocide of that escale as even assuming all 100% of Air Nomads nor even wan was willing to do it, there was still children, infants, elderly and other civilians who were not in the fight, and also as actual ''nomads'' the Fire Lord had to literally hunt them down all over the world. Too much effort just to erradicate a people because they didn't wanted to give a kid. The genocide only makes sense if they wanted to stop the existence of an Avatar forever. (Of course it coulde be argue that they have no way to know if without the Air Nomads the Avatar would just jump to the next one but otherwise the plan makes no sense as the amount of effort and resources to eliminate an entire nation would not be justify if they thought that is just going to jump to the next one, they were convice that no more Avatar would ever appear afterwards).
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*** Sorry but it was make very clear in the show that the reason why the Air Nomads were genocided is to cut the Avatar re-incarnation cycle. It didn't stop because Aang was able to escape. There's nothing on the shows mythology that could justify to think that they expect the next Avatar to be among the Waterbenders, quite the opposite, they assume no new Avatar would ever appear because there was no Air Nation and the line was thus cut. Is outright said on the dialogue. In any it would not make sense to make a genocide of one nation if they thought that the next Avatar would only skip it and jump to the next one, and in that case then they would have to genocide the Water Nation and then the Earth nation, which aside from impractical doesn't seem to be the motive of the Fire Nation that wants ''an empire'' not to be the only one around.

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*** Sorry but it was make very clear in the show that the reason why the Air Nomads were genocided is to cut the Avatar re-incarnation cycle. It didn't stop because Aang was able to escape. There's nothing on the shows show's mythology that could justify to think that they expect the next Avatar to be among the Waterbenders, quite the opposite, they assume no new Avatar would ever appear because there was no Air Nation and the line was thus cut. Is outright said on the dialogue. In any case it would not make sense to make a genocide of one nation if they thought that the next Avatar would only skip it and jump to the next one, and in that case then they would have to genocide the Water Nation and then the Earth nation, which aside from impractical doesn't seem to be the motive of the Fire Nation that wants ''an empire'' not to be the only one around.
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*** Sorry but it was make very clear in the show that the reason why the Air Nomads were genocided is to cut the Avatar re-incarnation cycle. It didn't stop because Aang was able to escape. There's nothing on the shows mythology that could justify to think that they expect the next Avatar to be among the Waterbenders, quite the opposite, they assume no new Avatar would ever appear because there was no Air Nation and the line was thus cut. Is outright said on the dialogue. In any it would not make sense to make a genocide of one nation if they thought that the next Avatar would only skip it and jump to the next one, and in that case then they would have to genocide the Water Nation and then the Earth nation, which aside from impractical doesn't seem to be the motive of the Fire Nation that wants ''an empire'' not to be the only one around.
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** The sequel series tells us there's an offshoot of theOrder of the White Lotus who is aware of the weakness; they try to force Korra into the Avatar State before killing her so that they can plunge the world into anarchy. If they know about it, there could well be others who could've spilled the beans to Ozai or someone serving under him. It may not be common knowledge, but it's not something only the Avatar is in on.

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** The sequel series tells us there's an offshoot of theOrder the Order of the White Lotus who is aware of the weakness; they try to force Korra into the Avatar State before killing her so that they can plunge the world into anarchy. If they know about it, there could well be others who could've spilled the beans to Ozai or someone serving under him. It may not be common knowledge, but it's not something only the Avatar is in on.
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** The sequel series tells us there's an offshoot of the White Lotus who is aware of the weakness; they try to force Korra into the Avatar State before killing her so that they can plunge the world into anarchy. If they know about it, there could well be others who could've spilled the beans to Ozai or someone serving under him.

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** The sequel series tells us there's an offshoot of theOrder of the White Lotus who is aware of the weakness; they try to force Korra into the Avatar State before killing her so that they can plunge the world into anarchy. If they know about it, there could well be others who could've spilled the beans to Ozai or someone serving under him. It may not be common knowledge, but it's not something only the Avatar is in on.
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** The sequel series tells us there's an offshoot of the White Lotus who is aware of the weakness; they try to force Korra into the Avatar State before killing her so that they can plunge the world into anarchy. If they know about it, there could well be others who could've spilled the beans to Ozai or someone serving under him.
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**** The Comics did show a 'mixed-race' (Earth and Fire) earthbender who was loyal to the Fire Nation. She was from one of the colonies.
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**A couple of things to note: The Southern Water Tribe isn't as small as the show makes it out to be. The comics reveal that Katara and Sokka's village is apparently one of many, and there was supposedly even a city that was destroyed by the Fire Nation. Also, there are plants in the show's South Pole (mostly short polar conifers), something again seen in the comics. It's possible that a lot of the trade and usage of dye is affected by these factors.
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** I wondered that too. The only thing that I would consider to be blantantly Japanese about FN is Iroh's armor.
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** It's not that they don't teach women waterbending. It's that they don't teach women ''combat'' waterbending. What dod you think the healers Katara was sent to work with used, happy thoughts? Also, until Yue does her sacrifice, the moon spirit is a fish, not a humanoid female.

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** It's not that they don't teach women waterbending. It's that they don't teach women ''combat'' waterbending. What dod do you think the healers Katara was sent to work with used, happy thoughts? Also, until Yue does her sacrifice, the moon spirit is a fish, not a humanoid female.
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** The fact the Avatar cycle ends if you're killed in the Avatar State doesn't seem to be common knowledge, in fact it's implied to be a secret only the Avatars know, passed on to the current incarnation by the previous one. So how would the Fire Nation know about it?

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** The fact the Avatar cycle ends if you're killed in the Avatar State doesn't seem to be common knowledge, in fact it's implied to be a secret only the Avatars know, passed on to the current incarnation by the previous one. Which makes sense, because the Avatar wouldn't want to reveal their greatest vulnerability... So how would the Fire Nation know about it?
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** The fact the Avatar cycle ends if you're killed in the Avatar State doesn't seem to be common knowledge, in fact it's implied to be a secret only the Avatars know, passed on to the current incarnation by the previous one. So how would the Fire Nation know about it?

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*** It might be considered dishonorable to have vast scales of people killed unless you're using the ultimate weapon ; Firebending powered by Sozin's Comet. This is how Firelord Sozin wiped-out all the airbenders, and Ozai intended to do with the Earth Kingdom.


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*** Or rather, it might be considered dishonorable to have vast scales of people killed unless you're using the ultimate weapon ; Firebending powered by Sozin's Comet. This is how Firelord Sozin wiped-out all the airbenders, and Ozai intended to do with the Earth Kingdom.
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*** It might be considered dishonorable to have vast scales of people killed unless you're using the ultimate weapon ; Firebending powered by Sozin's Comet. This is how Firelord Sozin wiped-out all the airbenders, and Ozai intended to do with the Earth Kingdom.
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*** We saw his skeleton but we did not see his on-screen murder. That wouldn't fly in the show.
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* So what happens if the avatar is born into the groggy swamp tribe or the sun warriors? I mean they’re pretty secluded, what would their methods be to tell?

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* So what happens if the avatar is born into the groggy swamp tribe Foggy Swamp Tribe or the sun warriors? Sun Warriors? I mean they’re pretty secluded, what would their methods be to tell?



** The Sun Warriors probably know about the Avatar already (especially after ‘’The Legend of Korra’’ revealed that it was the first Avatar who invented the Dancing Dragon), and it’s implied they were only in hiding during the first series because the Fire Nation in its current state is actively trying to destroy their firebending philosophy. I’m guessing they’d become less secretive after Zuko took the throne, also considering his dragon mount is said to be the spawn of the Masters Ran and Shaw.

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** The Sun Warriors probably know about the Avatar already (especially after ‘’The Legend of Korra’’ revealed that it was the first Avatar who invented the Dancing Dragon), and it’s implied they were only in hiding during the first series because the Fire Nation in its current state is actively trying to destroy their firebending philosophy. I’m guessing they’d become less secretive after Zuko took the throne, also considering his dragon mount is said to be the spawn of the Masters Ran and Shaw. And there was at least one member of the Foggy Swamp tribe who knew who the Avatar was, on top of the swamp itself being a very spiritual place. Not to mention, we don’t know how secluded they really are either.
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** Azula “killed” Aang while he was in the Avatar State, remember? If you get killed in the Avatar State, the Avatar Cycle ceases to continue. They don’t mention the search for the next Avatar because they probably don’t expect that there’s going to be another one.


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** The Sun Warriors probably know about the Avatar already (especially after ‘’The Legend of Korra’’ revealed that it was the first Avatar who invented the Dancing Dragon), and it’s implied they were only in hiding during the first series because the Fire Nation in its current state is actively trying to destroy their firebending philosophy. I’m guessing they’d become less secretive after Zuko took the throne, also considering his dragon mount is said to be the spawn of the Masters Ran and Shaw.
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** The Fire Nations citizens are all pretty much onboard with the nations goals and always have been. Between the fairly reasonable goals given for beginning the war plus a century of propaganda the Fire Nation isn't divided on the subject.


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** They don't have a way to tell, but the child would still be able to bend all four elements and would likely stumble upon a second one eventually and realise they have to leave. Or they might make contact with one of their past lives eventually.
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* So what happens if the avatar is born into the groggy swamp tribe or the sun warriors? I mean they’re pretty secluded, what would their methods be to tell?
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* Why didn't the water tribes get mentioned more in series 3? Between Crossroads of Destiny and the Day of Black Sun most of the fire nation believed that Aang was dead, so why is it that none of the fire nation scenes suggest that they were considering the fact that the next avatar would be born into one of the water tribes, which was the reason for the Air Nomad massacre 100 years prior. Not only that, none of the Gaang made any reference to the possibility of the fire nation thinking this.
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** In LoK we see Tenzin's Air Temple Island has numerous non-benders in Air Nomad clothing. Presumably there were air-nomad civillians and what have you who did the grunt work.

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** In LoK [=LoK=] we see Tenzin's Air Temple Island has numerous non-benders in Air Nomad clothing. Presumably there were air-nomad civillians and what have you who did the grunt work.

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** The designs are [[http://atla-annotated.tumblr.com/tagged/The-Fire-Nation-is-not-Japan actually closer to Chinese and Thai if anything]].



** The designs are [[http://atla-annotated.tumblr.com/tagged/The-Fire-Nation-is-not-Japan actually closer to Chinese and Thai if anything]].
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** There's a case to be made that the Fire Nation is also partly inspired by Japan; both mainlands are archipelagos, and both have a history of rapid industrial and military growth, after which they waged war on other Asian countries. They both also hold a very high sense of honor.
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** Sexism. You'll notice that Pakku never suggests that Katara would be incompetent or unable to learn combat waterbending, just that he won't teach her because of the rules. Sokka also developed similar views of gender roles before the series started. Somewhere in their history the water tribes simply established gender roles and it's just stuck die to traditions. Although in Sokka's case it seems to have been an assumption based on what he observed rather than something he was taught.
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* With bending being a thing and all, why was it that the system of gender roles used by the Northern Water Tribe ever became a thing? As a comparison, the ''Fantastic Beasts'' films sought to give the magical community in 1920s America a female president - unheard of at the time - because the existence of magic meant that unlike in the real world, there were no roadblocks keeping a woman from doing the same things a man could do. Unless the Water tribesmen think that a woman's bending is somehow weaker than a man's, wouldn't the same logic apply to them?
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** They ''are'' the original Sun Warriors. The episode doesn't imply anything otherwise.

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** They ''are'' the original Sun Warriors.Warriors; the same tribe, anyway. The episode doesn't imply anything otherwise.
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** They ''are'' the original Sun Warriors. The episode doesn't imply anything otherwise.

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