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15th May '16 7:50:46 AM H2SO4
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* Doesn't the Fire Nation have a KGB-like organization whose job is to ensure the loyalty of citizens (in this matter, rebel hunting), much like how Star Wars had COMPNOR or the Imperial Security Beureau? If they did, shouldn't they be the ones Team Avatar has to contend with?
28th Dec '15 1:49:12 AM Dgon
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\n**The problem is to think: Nation equals State (as in country) when is more like Nation equals People. Thatís why in real life some people refer to Native Americans as First Nations (especially in Canada) or use terms like Apache nation and Navajo nation. The UK has one single government but encompass four nations; England, Scotland, Wales and (well part of the nation of Ireland) Northern Ireland. The USA have sovereign Indian tribes that are define as nations inside its territory, China officially recognizes 18 different nationalities. So you get my idea. \\\
Also the opposite may apply, Pan-Arabism for example consider all Arabs members of one single nation, yet divided among like 12 independent states. The Umma is sometimes call the Muslim nation and is a similar case as the aforementioned. Jews consider themselves one single people, yet they only have one independent State, but very numerous communities around the world. In A:TLAís world there are only four nations (or races or peoples, as you wish) define by their element, yet nation and government are rarely the same, as in our world.

26th Dec '15 2:21:53 AM Luppercus
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**To be honest, is harder to explain why Katara and Soka's skin color is never notice.
26th Dec '15 2:17:58 AM Luppercus
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****How was that suggested and by whom?
26th Dec '15 2:10:11 AM Luppercus
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**Is China and Taiwan one nation or two? And is Tibet part of the nation known as China or is a different nation? The problem is that we in the West tend to think in nations as synonymous of state (government) or country, but in the East (and the show is strongly Influenced by Eastern culture) nation is more an ethnic term, as for example a Tamil in India may feel that he is part of the Tamil Nation, thus feeling closer to the Tamils in Sri Lanka than to non-Tamil Indians, a Tibetan in Northern India probably feel closer to a Tibetan in Tibet and part of the same nation even when they live in different countries/states and are citizens of different governments. Just make the same analogy to ATLA's world.

14th Nov '15 11:22:44 AM nombretomado
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*** This is a world where some people are able to interact with their environment in ways that are absolutely impossible in RealLife and even Aang isn't [[WebVideo/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice the motherfucking Emperor]]. Could be that the Water Tribe blue eyes are not like ''RealLife'' blue eyes at all and offer (near-)complete protection from snow glare. Not only don't we see any of them blinded by it, there is never any complaint made against it and no attempt to avoid it ''at all''.

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*** This is a world where some people are able to interact with their environment in ways that are absolutely impossible in RealLife and even Aang isn't [[WebVideo/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice [[WebAnimation/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice the motherfucking Emperor]]. Could be that the Water Tribe blue eyes are not like ''RealLife'' blue eyes at all and offer (near-)complete protection from snow glare. Not only don't we see any of them blinded by it, there is never any complaint made against it and no attempt to avoid it ''at all''.
10th Oct '15 1:56:22 PM Lightice
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** The Earth Kingdom is most closely based on Imperial China, and they had client states with their own client kings on their periphery. This is pretty standard for ancient empires, actually, since it takes far less resources and effort to just lean on neighbouring polities with your influence than to conquer them by force. You let small kingdoms keep their independence on internal affairs and their customs and titles, as long as they swear fealty to you and pay tribute. This is probably the original relationship of Ba Sing Se and the rest of the Earth Kingdom, but in the present day of the show the Impenetrable City has shut away the outside world and lost interest in governing territories outside its walls, leaving all the polities it used to control to practical independence -- again, something similar happened with the Imperial China in its last days.
11th Sep '15 1:19:55 PM NickFalcon
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** Earthbenders are useful for coal mining, which is used for the Fire Nation's steam engines. Waterbenders are useful for their healing power--given the otherwise realistic depiction of injuries, waterbending healing would be one of the only possible explanations for why Zuko still has two eyes. But Airbenders? They served no purpose for the Fire Nation, and furthermore, one among their number was the reincarnation of a man who ''threatened their lord and demanded their people leave the colonies that had been set up.'' Honor being what it is to the Fire Nation, Roku's humiliation of his Fire Lord and forcing him to bow to the will of another ''probably'' left a bitter taste in the Fire Nation's mouth, moreso because Roku was Fire Nation himself.
15th Aug '15 2:55:48 AM SetsunasaNiWa
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*** That doesn't really make sense either. The way the Avatar cycle has been shown to work is thus; old Avatar dies, new Avatar is instantly re-incarnated in some random baby. The earth and waterbending [=POWs=] [[CaptainObvious aren't babies]]. Maybe it's because of some sort of cultural tradition or what-not, or maybe they don't execute them ''because'' they're [=POW=]s, like some of the more, eh, ''forgiving'' nations in RealLife. Or maybe they wanted to interrogate them for information, the same way [=POWs=] of, say, the Korean War were interrogated.

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*** That doesn't really make sense either. The way the Avatar cycle has been shown to work is thus; old Avatar dies, new Avatar is instantly re-incarnated in some random baby. The earth and waterbending [=POWs=] [[CaptainObvious aren't babies]].babies. Maybe it's because of some sort of cultural tradition or what-not, or maybe they don't execute them ''because'' they're [=POW=]s, like some of the more, eh, ''forgiving'' nations in RealLife. Or maybe they wanted to interrogate them for information, the same way [=POWs=] of, say, the Korean War were interrogated.



**** Toph's "gray" eyes always looked more like cataracts to this troper, since you can see the green underneath them. Either way, though, the Gaang were passing themselves off as "from the Earth Nation colonies," and since Toph is, well, [[CaptainObvious actually from the Earth Kingdom]], she could do this the most convincingly, "proper" eye color or not.

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**** Toph's "gray" eyes always looked more like cataracts to this troper, since you can see the green underneath them. Either way, though, the Gaang were passing themselves off as "from the Earth Nation colonies," and since Toph is, well, [[CaptainObvious actually from the Earth Kingdom]], Kingdom, she could do this the most convincingly, "proper" eye color or not.
29th Jun '15 12:55:31 PM rottenvenetic
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*** This is a world where some people are able to interact with their environment in ways that are absolutely impossible in RealLife and even Aang isn't [[IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice the motherfucking Emperor]]. Could be that the Water Tribe blue eyes are not like ''RealLife'' blue eyes at all and offer (near-)complete protection from snow glare. Not only don't we see any of them blinded by it, there is never any complaint made against it and no attempt to avoid it ''at all''.

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*** This is a world where some people are able to interact with their environment in ways that are absolutely impossible in RealLife and even Aang isn't [[IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice [[WebVideo/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice the motherfucking Emperor]]. Could be that the Water Tribe blue eyes are not like ''RealLife'' blue eyes at all and offer (near-)complete protection from snow glare. Not only don't we see any of them blinded by it, there is never any complaint made against it and no attempt to avoid it ''at all''.
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