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** Basically, Rule of the IdiotPlot in the world of the Coen Brothers. The utter FridgeLogic is part of the joke.

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** [[invoked]] Basically, Rule of the IdiotPlot in the world of the Coen Brothers. The utter FridgeLogic is part of the joke.
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Gave an answer about the bribery process.




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\n*** This absolutely would've been the best idea. However, the reason Larry didn't do it is pretty simple: [[ExtremeDoormat he's extremely passive]]. When you look at the rest of the film, it's clear Larry rarely does anything to help himself. He's forced out of his home, yet doesn't really resist it despite hating the circumstances. Hell, his wife and Sy [[CondescendingCompassion seem to be talking down to him when they suggest he do it]]. Similarly, he could quite easily clear up this bribery mess through the aforementioned process, but because [[PointyHairedBoss his superior]] interrupted him with news over the denigrating letters, he instantly stopped talking. It's not so much a case of Larry holding the IdiotBall as much as it is him just being such a pushover that he lets things happen to him and does nothing to really resist them. In essence, it's an inverse of MenActWomenAre; Larry is defined by his inaction, not by what he actually does.
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** Step 1: Like any found item, one would ask around if anyone had lost it. If he let lots of people know he found it (but not the amount), including the students then he has witnesses that he exercised basic due diligence (attempting to find the owner).
** Step 2: After a reasonable amount of time (and before the grades go out), when it is not claimed bring it to the police station.

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** Step 1: '''Step 1''': Like any found item, one would ask around if anyone had lost it. If he let lots of people know he found it (but not the amount), including the students then he has witnesses that he exercised basic due diligence (attempting to find the owner).
** Step 2: '''Step 2''': After a reasonable amount of time (and before the grades go out), when it is not claimed bring it to the police station.



** Step 3: Get a copy of the police report or whatever would be filled out and then just wait. If the Parks try to bring legal charges for theft, they have no leg to stand on. He didn't steal it; the police have it as lost property and the Parks more than welcome to go claim it. And they can't sue him for defamation since Larry never said that the money was left as a bribe; it was just found on his desk.
** Result: If they claim it from the police station, they then have to explain why Clive was carrying around that large amount of cash in a plain envelope to begin with and why he denied that it was his when Larry tried to return it. If the continue the shtick that Larry is a thief, then they would have to explain why it was that they thought that Larry, of all people, had stolen the money in the first place when he went through all that trouble to find the rightful owner (also defamation goes both ways). Attempting to explain would actually just make things look worse for them.


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** Step 3: '''Step 3''': Get a copy of the police report or whatever would be filled out and then just wait. If the Parks try to bring legal charges for theft, they have no leg to stand on. He didn't steal it; the police have it as lost property and the Parks more than welcome to go claim it. And they can't sue him for defamation since Larry never said that the money was left as a bribe; it was just found on his desk.
** Result: '''Result''': If they claim it from the police station, they then have to explain why Clive was carrying around that large amount of cash in a plain envelope to begin with and why he denied that it was his when Larry tried to return it. If the continue the shtick that Larry is a thief, then they would have to explain why it was that they thought that Larry, of all people, had stolen the money in the first place when he went through all that trouble to find the rightful owner (also defamation goes both ways). Attempting to explain would actually just make things look worse for them.

them. It especially looks like malicious revenge since Clive had failed Larry's class.

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* Why didn't Larry take [[TakeTheThirdOption another, simple option]] for the bribe money: act like it was found? He did find it on his desk and did try to return it to Clive who turned it down. The office administrator who gives him his phone messages would have witnessed him chasing after Clive after he leaves Larry's office (to return the money) the first time and the second meeting as well (where he denies that the money belonged to him). Like any found item, one would ask around if anyone had lost it. If he let lots of people know he found it (but not the amount), including the students then he has witnesses that he exercised basic due diligence (attempting to find the owner). After a reasonable amount of time, and when it is not claimed, bring it to the police station ("Hello officers, I found this envelope containing a bit of money but no one has claimed it. I found it on my desk after speaking to a student, but the student said it was not his after I asked him about it.") Get a copy of the police report or whatever would be filled out and then just wait. If the Parks try to bring legal charges for theft, they have no leg to stand on. He didn't steal it; the police have it as lost property and the Parks more than welcome to go claim it. Of course, then they have to explain why they thought that Larry, of all people, had stolen the money in the first place and why Clive was carrying around that large amount of cash in a plain envelope to begin with and why he denied that it was his when Larry tried to return it. And they can't sue him for defamation since Larry never said that the money was left as a bribe; it was just found on his desk. Attempting to explain would actually just make things look worse for them. And if they kept up the shtick that Larry is a thief, well then, defamation goes both ways.


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* Why didn't Larry take [[TakeTheThirdOption another, simple option]] for the bribe money: act like it was found? He did find it on his desk and did try to return it to Clive who turned it down. The office administrator who gives him his phone messages would have witnessed him chasing after Clive after he leaves Larry's office (to return the money) the first time and the second meeting as well (where he denies that the money belonged to him).
** Step 1:
Like any found item, one would ask around if anyone had lost it. If he let lots of people know he found it (but not the amount), including the students then he has witnesses that he exercised basic due diligence (attempting to find the owner).
** Step 2:
After a reasonable amount of time, and time (and before the grades go out), when it is not claimed, claimed bring it to the police station ("Hello station.
--> '''Larry''': "Hello
officers, I found this envelope containing quite a bit of money but no one has claimed it. I found it on my desk after speaking to a student, Clive Park. Thinking it belonged to him, I asked him if he had lost it but the student he said it was not his after I his. I've asked him about around, but no one has yet to step forward to claim it.") "
** Step 3:
Get a copy of the police report or whatever would be filled out and then just wait. If the Parks try to bring legal charges for theft, they have no leg to stand on. He didn't steal it; the police have it as lost property and the Parks more than welcome to go claim it. Of course, And they can't sue him for defamation since Larry never said that the money was left as a bribe; it was just found on his desk.
** Result: If they claim it from the police station, they
then they have to explain why they thought that Larry, of all people, had stolen the money in the first place and why Clive was carrying around that large amount of cash in a plain envelope to begin with and why he denied that it was his when Larry tried to return it. And If the continue the shtick that Larry is a thief, then they can't sue him for would have to explain why it was that they thought that Larry, of all people, had stolen the money in the first place when he went through all that trouble to find the rightful owner (also defamation since Larry never said that the money was left as a bribe; it was just found on his desk. goes both ways). Attempting to explain would actually just make things look worse for them. And if they kept up the shtick that Larry is a thief, well then, defamation goes both ways.

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* Why didn't Larry take [[TakeTheThirdOption another, simple option]] for the bribe money: act like it was found? He did find it on his desk and did try to return it to Clive who turned it down. The office administrator who gives him his phone messages would have witnessed him chasing after Clive after he leaves Larry's office (to return the money) the first time and the second meeting as well (where he denies that the money belonged to him). Like any found item, one would ask around if anyone had lost it. If he let lots of people know he found it (but not the amount), including the students then he has witnesses that he exercised basic due diligence(attempting to find the owner). After a reasonable amount of time, and when it is not claimed, bring it to the police station ("Hello officers, I found this envelope containing a bit of money but no one has claimed it. A found it on my desk after speaking to a student, but the student said it was not his after I asked him about it.") Get a copy of the police report or whatever would be filled out and then just wait. If the Parks try to bring legal charges for theft, they have no leg to stand on. He didn't steal it; the police have it as lost property and the Parks more than welcome to go claim it. Of course, then they have to explain why they thought that Larry, of all people, had stolen the money in the first place and why Clive was carrying around that large amount of cash in a plain envelope to begin with and why he denied that it was his when Larry tried to return it. And they can't sue him for defamation since Larry never said that the money was left as a bribe; it was just found on his desk. Attempting to explain would actually just make things look worse for them.


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* Why didn't Larry take [[TakeTheThirdOption another, simple option]] for the bribe money: act like it was found? He did find it on his desk and did try to return it to Clive who turned it down. The office administrator who gives him his phone messages would have witnessed him chasing after Clive after he leaves Larry's office (to return the money) the first time and the second meeting as well (where he denies that the money belonged to him). Like any found item, one would ask around if anyone had lost it. If he let lots of people know he found it (but not the amount), including the students then he has witnesses that he exercised basic due diligence(attempting diligence (attempting to find the owner). After a reasonable amount of time, and when it is not claimed, bring it to the police station ("Hello officers, I found this envelope containing a bit of money but no one has claimed it. A I found it on my desk after speaking to a student, but the student said it was not his after I asked him about it.") Get a copy of the police report or whatever would be filled out and then just wait. If the Parks try to bring legal charges for theft, they have no leg to stand on. He didn't steal it; the police have it as lost property and the Parks more than welcome to go claim it. Of course, then they have to explain why they thought that Larry, of all people, had stolen the money in the first place and why Clive was carrying around that large amount of cash in a plain envelope to begin with and why he denied that it was his when Larry tried to return it. And they can't sue him for defamation since Larry never said that the money was left as a bribe; it was just found on his desk. Attempting to explain would actually just make things look worse for them. \n\n And if they kept up the shtick that Larry is a thief, well then, defamation goes both ways.

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* Why didn't Larry take [[TakeTheThirdOption another, simple option]] for the bribe money: act like it was found? He did find it on his desk and did try to return it to Clive who turned it down. The office administrator who gives him his phone messages would have witnessed him chasing after Clive after he leaves Larry's office (to return the money) the first time and the second meeting as well. Like any found item, one would ask around if anyone had lost it. If he let lots of people know he found it (but not the amount), including the students then he has witnesses that he exercised basic due diligence(attempting to find the owner). After a reasonable amount of time, and when it is not claimed, bring it to the police station ("Hello officers, I found this envelope containing a bit of money but no one has claimed it. A found it on my desk after speaking to a student, but the student said it was not his after I asked him about it.") Get a copy of the police report or whatever would be filled out and then just wait. If the Parks try to bring legal charges for theft, they have no leg to stand on. He didn't steal it; the police have it as lost property and the Parks more than welcome to go claim it. Of course, then they have to explain why they thought that Larry, of all people, had stolen the money in the first place and why Clive was carrying around that large amount of cash in a plain envelope to begin with and why he denied that it was his when Larry tried to return it. And they can't sue him for defamation since Larry never said that the money was left as a bribe; it was just found on his desk. Attempting to explain would actually just make things look worse for them.


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* Why didn't Larry take [[TakeTheThirdOption another, simple option]] for the bribe money: act like it was found? He did find it on his desk and did try to return it to Clive who turned it down. The office administrator who gives him his phone messages would have witnessed him chasing after Clive after he leaves Larry's office (to return the money) the first time and the second meeting as well.well (where he denies that the money belonged to him). Like any found item, one would ask around if anyone had lost it. If he let lots of people know he found it (but not the amount), including the students then he has witnesses that he exercised basic due diligence(attempting to find the owner). After a reasonable amount of time, and when it is not claimed, bring it to the police station ("Hello officers, I found this envelope containing a bit of money but no one has claimed it. A found it on my desk after speaking to a student, but the student said it was not his after I asked him about it.") Get a copy of the police report or whatever would be filled out and then just wait. If the Parks try to bring legal charges for theft, they have no leg to stand on. He didn't steal it; the police have it as lost property and the Parks more than welcome to go claim it. Of course, then they have to explain why they thought that Larry, of all people, had stolen the money in the first place and why Clive was carrying around that large amount of cash in a plain envelope to begin with and why he denied that it was his when Larry tried to return it. And they can't sue him for defamation since Larry never said that the money was left as a bribe; it was just found on his desk. Attempting to explain would actually just make things look worse for them.

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* Why didn't

There was a fourth option for the bribe money: act like it was found. And, like any found item, one would ask around if anyone had lost it, basic due diligence. Let lots of people know you found it (but not the amount), including the students. When it is not claimed, bring it to the police as a lost item, and get a copy of the police report or whatever would be filled out, then wait. When they try to bring legal charges for theft, he didn't steal it; the police have it as lost property and they're more than welcome to go claim it.


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* Why didn't

There was a fourth option
didn't Larry take [[TakeTheThirdOption another, simple option]] for the bribe money: act like it was found. And, like found? He did find it on his desk and did try to return it to Clive who turned it down. The office administrator who gives him his phone messages would have witnessed him chasing after Clive after he leaves Larry's office (to return the money) the first time and the second meeting as well. Like any found item, one would ask around if anyone had lost it, basic due diligence. Let it. If he let lots of people know you he found it (but not the amount), including the students. When students then he has witnesses that he exercised basic due diligence(attempting to find the owner). After a reasonable amount of time, and when it is not claimed, bring it to the police as station ("Hello officers, I found this envelope containing a lost item, and get bit of money but no one has claimed it. A found it on my desk after speaking to a student, but the student said it was not his after I asked him about it.") Get a copy of the police report or whatever would be filled out, out and then just wait. When they If the Parks try to bring legal charges for theft, he they have no leg to stand on. He didn't steal it; the police have it as lost property and they're the Parks more than welcome to go claim it.

it. Of course, then they have to explain why they thought that Larry, of all people, had stolen the money in the first place and why Clive was carrying around that large amount of cash in a plain envelope to begin with and why he denied that it was his when Larry tried to return it. And they can't sue him for defamation since Larry never said that the money was left as a bribe; it was just found on his desk. Attempting to explain would actually just make things look worse for them.

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** Basically, Rule of the IdiotPlot in the world of the Coen Brothers. The utter FridgeLogic is part of the joke.

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** Basically, Rule of the IdiotPlot in the world of the Coen Brothers. The utter FridgeLogic is part of the joke.joke.
* Why didn't

There was a fourth option for the bribe money: act like it was found. And, like any found item, one would ask around if anyone had lost it, basic due diligence. Let lots of people know you found it (but not the amount), including the students. When it is not claimed, bring it to the police as a lost item, and get a copy of the police report or whatever would be filled out, then wait. When they try to bring legal charges for theft, he didn't steal it; the police have it as lost property and they're more than welcome to go claim it.


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* How come the dentist didn't tell his patient about the writing on his teeth, and then ask him if he needed help? Presumably, if God put "help me please" on the man's teeth, then he's the one who needs the help being asked for.

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* How come the dentist didn't tell his patient about the writing on his teeth, and then ask him if he needed help? Presumably, if God put "help me please" on the man's teeth, then he's the one who needs the help being asked for.for.
** Basically, Rule of the IdiotPlot in the world of the Coen Brothers. The utter FridgeLogic is part of the joke.
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* How come the dentist didn't tell his patient about the writing on his teeth, and then ask him if he needed help? Presumably, if God put "help me please" on the man's teeth, then he's the one who needs the help being asked for.

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