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*** Plus this means that the adults have to feel the pain of burying their own child(ren), "again". Freddy would want them to feel that pain, in retribution for killing him.

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*** Plus this means that the adults have to feel the pain of burying their own child(ren), "again".''again''. Freddy would want them to feel that pain, in retribution for killing him.
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*** Plus this means that the adults have to feel the pain of burying their own child(ren), "again". Freddy would want them to feel that pain, in retribution for killing him.
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** Because it makes him look scary. He wants to be ugly to scare the kids, and why won't him? is not only a reminder of what happened in case the kids speak the parents will not is him taking revenge from beyond the grave for what they do, something he wants, but also there's no indication in-universe he feels ashame from looking like that, if anything, he probably feels it make him look better.

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** Because it makes him look scary. He wants to be ugly to scare the kids, and why won't him? is not only The burned appearance isn't just a reminder of what happened happened; in case the kids want to tattle and speak up about the incident, the parents will not is him taking not. Plus, it represents his empowerment to take revenge from beyond the grave for what they do, something he wants, but also said parents did. Furthermore, there's no indication in-universe indication that he feels ashame from looking like that, shame or disgust about his appearance; if anything, he probably feels believes it make him look better. bolsters and enhances his fearsome factor.
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** Because it makes him look scary. He wants to be ugly to scare the kids, and why won't him? is not only a reminder of what happened in case the kids speak the parents will not is him taking revenge from beyond the grave for what they do, something he wants, but also there's no indication in-universe he feels ashame from looking like that, if anything, he probably feels it make him look better.
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[[folder: Why does Freddy stay burned?]]
* Throughout the franchise (most noticeably Nightmare 6 and an alternate scene in the Remake), Freddy has the ability to make himself look human. So why does he nearly always keep his burned appearance?
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** Plus, throughout the series, the adults don't even seem to be willing to accept that Freddy can even return after his death. Since, depending on which movie you're watching, Freddy needs fear to be able to come back and kill people, he might not be able to touch the parents due to their complete lack of fear.
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** Assuming Jason X is cannon to Freddy AND Freddy's Dead is non cannon (I know it happens ten years from now but given that the Earth is still there it's clearly prior to the events of Jason X) or he recovers from that at some point.

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** Assuming Jason X is cannon canon to Freddy AND Freddy's Dead is non cannon canon (I know it happens ten years from now but given that the Earth is still there it's clearly prior to the events of Jason X) or he recovers from that at some point.

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** Assuming Jason X is cannon to Freddy AND Freddy's Dead is non cannon (I know it happens ten years from now but given that the Earth is still there it's clearly prior to the events of Jason X) or he recovers from that at some point the easiest answer is that he's on a ship or space station. By Nightmare 5 Freddy could presumably pop up in the dreams of Alice and Jacob as the power is genetic. Freddy vs Jason suggests that he can jump into anybody who fears him enough. He's essentially the boogeyman at that point. As long as someone out there believes and spreads the word Freddy lives. Given the irony of the series it's entirely possible that there is a space station named Elm out there. Just like the ships are named after monsters.

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** Assuming Jason X is cannon to Freddy AND Freddy's Dead is non cannon (I know it happens ten years from now but given that the Earth is still there it's clearly prior to the events of Jason X) or he recovers from that at some point the point.
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easiest answer is that he's on a ship or space station. By Nightmare 5 Freddy could presumably pop up in the dreams of Alice and Jacob as the power is genetic. Freddy vs Jason suggests that he can jump into anybody who fears him enough. He's essentially the boogeyman at that point. As long as someone out there believes and spreads the word Freddy lives. Given the irony of the series it's entirely possible that there is a space station named Elm out there. Just like the ships are named after monsters.
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*** Yes, Nancy specifically calls her father come over and "arrest the guy when I bring him out." But, because her mother barred all the windows and locked the door, he can't get in, so Nancy pretty much has to try and fight Freddy to the death. It doesn't really work, but it at least proves the Freddy is somewhat vulnerable in the real world. Of course, given that Freddy was burned to death already and it didn't take, it's likely that he just can't be killed, simply slipping back into the dream world whenever his physical body dies. Locking him up would seem a viable option, but you really logistically can't keep him contained for all time. Eventually, he'd get out, or get "dead," with pretty much the same result as defeating him at the end of a Nightmare on Elm Street movie: temporary peace until he gets his shit back together and starts all over again.

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*** Yes, Nancy specifically calls her father come over and "arrest the guy when I bring him out." But, because her mother barred all the windows and locked the door, he can't get in, so Nancy pretty much has to try and fight Freddy to the death. It doesn't really work, but it at least proves the that Freddy is somewhat vulnerable in the real world. Of course, given that Freddy was burned to death already and it didn't take, it's likely that he just can't be killed, simply slipping back into the dream world whenever his physical body dies. Locking him up would seem a viable option, but you really logistically can't keep him contained for all time. Eventually, he'd get out, or get "dead," with pretty much the same result as defeating him at the end of a Nightmare on Elm Street movie: temporary peace until he gets his shit back together and starts all over again.
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*** Yes, Nancy specifically calls here father come over and "arrest the guy when I bring him out." But, because her mother barred all the windows and locked the door, he can't get in, so Nancy pretty much has to try and fight Freddy to the death. It doesn't really work, but it at least proves the Freddy is somewhat vulnerable in the real world. Of course, given that Freddy was burned to death already and it didn't take, it's likely that he just can't be killed, simply slipping back into the dream world whenever his physical body dies. Locking him up would seem a viable option, but you really logistically can't keep him contained for all time. Eventually, he'd get out, or get "dead," with pretty much the same result as defeating him at the end of a Nightmare on Elm Street movie: temporary peace until he gets his shit back together and starts all over again.

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*** Yes, Nancy specifically calls here her father come over and "arrest the guy when I bring him out." But, because her mother barred all the windows and locked the door, he can't get in, so Nancy pretty much has to try and fight Freddy to the death. It doesn't really work, but it at least proves the Freddy is somewhat vulnerable in the real world. Of course, given that Freddy was burned to death already and it didn't take, it's likely that he just can't be killed, simply slipping back into the dream world whenever his physical body dies. Locking him up would seem a viable option, but you really logistically can't keep him contained for all time. Eventually, he'd get out, or get "dead," with pretty much the same result as defeating him at the end of a Nightmare on Elm Street movie: temporary peace until he gets his shit back together and starts all over again.
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*** Yeah, you can either keep taking hypnocil (a dream suppressant that causes long-term brain damage) or fight him and win. Or maybe just never go to Springwood, if you weren't born there. Otherwise, if he gets into your dreams, sooner or later you're toast.

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*** Yeah, you can either keep taking hypnocil (a (an in-universe dream suppressant that causes long-term brain damage) or fight him and win. Or maybe just never go to Springwood, if you weren't born there. Otherwise, if he gets into your dreams, sooner or later you're toast.
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*** actually it was a victory for her, it wasnt that he was weak in the human world it was that without fear he has no power to actually hurt his victims. thats why he spends the first few visits scaring them until he has the power to physically hurt them. when nancy took away the energy she gave him she became someone untouchable to him and he had no power to manifest for many years when he regained enough strength to hunt the remaining elm street kids. but by that point she is an adult and has a real fear of freddy successfully killing the kids under her protection giving her a weakness he could exploit to be able to kill her

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*** actually Actually, it was a victory for her, it wasnt her. It wasn't that he was weak in the human world world, it was that without fear he has no power to actually hurt his victims. thats That's why he spends the first few visits visits/nights scaring them until he has the power to physically hurt them. when nancy When Nancy took away the energy she gave him him, she became someone untouchable to him and him. Thus he had no power to manifest for many years when until he regained enough strength to hunt the remaining elm street Elm Street kids. but But by that point she Nancy is an adult and has a real fear of freddy Freddy successfully killing the kids under her protection protection, giving her a weakness he could exploit to be able to finally kill herher.
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* Because it was the "parents" symbol they used to identify Freddy. Remember, Nancy's mom retrieved the gloves after the burning, and kept them in her own boiler room. She shows them to Nancy as proof that they *killed Freddy. She saw them as a symbol of comfort, viewing the gloves seemed to reassure her that he was dead... Naturally adopting the gloves as his weapon of choice would incite an extra level of fear.

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* Because it was the "parents" parents' symbol that they used to identify Freddy. Remember, Nancy's mom retrieved the gloves after the burning, and kept them in her own boiler room. She shows them to Nancy as proof that they *killed killed Freddy. She saw them as a symbol of comfort, and viewing the gloves seemed to reassure her that he was dead... Naturally Naturally, adopting the gloves as his weapon of choice would incite an extra level of fear.

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** The text in the begining of the 6th movie says it takes place "Ten years from now". Assuming this doesn't mean "Ten years from 1991 when this movie was released" and is instead intended to be relative to the viewer, then Freddy's Dead hasn't happened yet, just like Jason X.

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** The text in the begining beginning of the 6th movie says it takes place "Ten years from now". Assuming this doesn't mean "Ten years from 1991 when this movie was released" and is instead intended to be relative to the viewer, then Freddy's Dead hasn't happened yet, just like Jason X.X.
***Freddy's Dead already happened by the time the events of Freddy vs Jason start. There are some clips from Freddy's Dead included in the FvJ introduction sequence.
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* Throughout the franchise, Freddy shows ''some'' martial arts prowess while in dreams, where he doesn't actually have to know how to do the move, since he's a reality warper. And for all the major installments, in the real world he can't even handle untrained teenage girls and gets severely hindered by homemade booby traps, as you'd expect since both before and after he died, he never killed anyone fighting back. So in Freddy Vs Jason, how the fuck does he manage to not only endure blows from, but also defeat ''Jason Vorhees'', who becomes stronger after each ressurection, and was punching people's heads off two ressurections ago? Freddy jumps and flips and kick around like Jackie Chan, and keeps fighting after being thrown dozens of yards and losing his arm. Does this fall under the MST3KMantra, since the movie would be boring if the final fight was a CurbStompBattle in Jason's favor, or did he train with young Bruce Lee when he was alive and not murdering children, and just now remembered how to use his skills?

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* Throughout the franchise, Freddy shows ''some'' martial arts prowess while in dreams, where he doesn't actually have to know how to do the move, since he's a reality warper. And for all the major installments, in the real world he can't even handle untrained teenage girls and gets severely hindered by homemade booby traps, as you'd expect since both before and after he died, he never killed anyone fighting back. So in Freddy Vs vs Jason, how the fuck does he manage to not only endure blows from, but also defeat ''Jason Vorhees'', who becomes stronger after each ressurection, and was punching people's heads off two ressurections ago? Freddy jumps and flips and kick around like Jackie Chan, and keeps fighting after being thrown dozens of yards and losing his arm. Does this fall under the MST3KMantra, since the movie would be boring if the final fight was a CurbStompBattle in Jason's favor, or did he train with young Bruce Lee when he was alive and not murdering children, and just now remembered how to use his skills?
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[[folder:Freddy's Fighting Skill]]
* Throughout the franchise, Freddy shows ''some'' martial arts prowess while in dreams, where he doesn't actually have to know how to do the move, since he's a reality warper. And for all the major installments, in the real world he can't even handle untrained teenage girls and gets severely hindered by homemade booby traps, as you'd expect since both before and after he died, he never killed anyone fighting back. So in Freddy Vs Jason, how the fuck does he manage to not only endure blows from, but also defeat ''Jason Vorhees'', who becomes stronger after each ressurection, and was punching people's heads off two ressurections ago? Freddy jumps and flips and kick around like Jackie Chan, and keeps fighting after being thrown dozens of yards and losing his arm. Does this fall under the MST3KMantra, since the movie would be boring if the final fight was a CurbStompBattle in Jason's favor, or did he train with young Bruce Lee when he was alive and not murdering children, and just now remembered how to use his skills?
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** I assumed that they somehow kept her hidden.
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**But she said she was there for a month.
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* When we're talking about the kinds of holidays that would be likely to even bring an Asylum down to a skeleton crew it's at most a four day weekend. Humans can go that long without water, they'll just be mighty unhappy about it.


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** You'd have to ask the Dream Demons. As much as Freddy manages to manipulate the rules he was specifically given the power to kill the children of the people who massacred him. Going after them directly may not be an option he has open to him.


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** Almost definitely, when we look at the first and third movie Freddy is actually attacking the parents through the children. It's not until Nightmare 4 where he's really in it just for the evulz.
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** Well, Freddy was specifically a ''child'' murderer. So the teenagers are closer to his preferred victim type. And which is more sadistic: just killing the people who killed you, or killing their children, proving that even after your death they can't protect their kids from you, that they've failed, and there's nothing they can do to stop you?
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** The monster/demon/creature/whatever has grown to ''like'' being Freddy, and it must be trapped in stories to keep it from wreaking havoc. So it needs a new Nightmare on Elm Street story to trap it. What we see when it is "killed" (actually trapped in the new Freddy story, which is the one we just watched) is either it's "true" face, or just one of many forms it can take. Point is, the Freddy Krueger in ''New Nightmare'' is not Freddy Krueger from the films, but the ''idea'' of Freddy.
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*** Yes and no. Lucid dreaming is brought up briefly in the first film (the "dream skills" scene), and becomes a bit more prominent in ''Dream Warriors'' and ''Dream Master'', but in the first film it's never brought up as a way to defeat Freddy (and the performances of most of the lucid dreamers against Freddy in 3 and 4 lends to this). In the metaphysical sense, the harder you fight against a monster like Freddy, the more energy you give him, and the more powerful he becomes. Acknowledging his existence at all, let alone thinking of him in terms of a BigBad to be beaten to a pulp, plays right into his hands. Nancy turning her back on Freddy and denying his ability to hurt her ''should'' have worked in the first film (and would have, if not for ExecutiveMeddling). On the other hand, ''Dream Warriors'' is pretty much all about the power of lucid dreaming and the ability to alter the dream to suit your desires, and give yourself the power to defeat Freddy. Unfortunately, it fails most of the time, because Freddy is a much more experienced and powerful lucid dreamer, and the kids lack the experience and mental discipline to keep hold of their lucid dreams.
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*** Someone who has the sense to see the scary guy, say [[YourMindMakesItReal I have a loaded M4]], and just unload on him from a distance

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*** Someone who has the sense to see the scary guy, say [[YourMindMakesItReal obvious nightmare, say, "[[YourMindMakesItReal I have a loaded M4]], M4]]", and just unload on him from a distancedistance.
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** Would Freddy have trouble with a lucid dreamer?
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[[folder: In Nightmare on Elm Street 2, did the victims see Jesse or Freddy?]]
* Some people theorized that the coach, Ron, and the kids at the party were seeing Jesse terrorizing them, and not Freddy. It's possible what we see is not how people in the movie see things. For example, the terrified look on Ron's face could be that he is seeing his best friend attacking him.
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[[folder: What if a parent in Elm Street decides to have another kid?]]
* Let's say Freddy kills a teen, the mom later becomes pregnant. Would Freddy go after the baby?
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[[folder: Why not just kill the parents instead?]]
* I understand that Freddy wants the parents to suffer by killing their children, but why not kill the people who were responsible for his death? Yes, the parents will be miserable and angry for the rest of their lives, but I don't see that being good enough for Freddy.
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** To elaborate what the previous troper wrote, and referring to only the original movie, I think that the authorities and witnesses are likely assuming that the deaths (including Glen's) happened in a non-supernatural way, even if they have no idea what else could have caused them. Horror movie characters, particularly in settings like this, aren't GenreSavvy enough to consider supernatural causes, and the first movie takes place long before the people of Springwood finally realize and accept that Freddy is real. I don't think it's ever stated or implied that real-world witnesses see anything different than what the audience is directly shown.

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** To elaborate what the previous troper wrote, and referring to only the original movie, I think that the authorities and witnesses are likely assuming that the deaths (including Glen's) happened in a non-supernatural way, even if they have no idea what else could have caused them. Horror movie characters, particularly in settings like this, aren't GenreSavvy smart enough to consider supernatural causes, and the first movie takes place long before the people of Springwood finally realize and accept that Freddy is real. I don't think it's ever stated or implied that real-world witnesses see anything different than what the audience is directly shown.
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In the fifth movie when we see Amanda Krueger get trapped inside the dungeon where all the 100 maniacs were kept, how did they survive if they have no food or water? Judging by Amanda Krueger’s speech in the fourth movie she was trapped there “during the holydays” (so, for several days, maybe a month) what the hell did the inmates and her ate and drank during that period? Notice they didn’t have beds either and you also need sleep to survive, but probably feeding is the most immediate plothole.
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** Assuming Jason X is cannon to Freddy AND Freddy's Dead is non cannon (I know it happens ten years from now but given that the Earth is still there it's clearly prior to the events of Jason X) or he recovers from that at some point the easiest answer is that he's on a ship or space station. By Nightmare 5 Freddy could presumably pop up in the dreams of Alice and Jacob as the power is genetic. Freddy vs Jason suggests that he can jump into anybody who fears him enough. He's essentially the boogeyman at that point. As long as someone out there believes and spreads the word Freddy lives. Given the irony of the series it's entirely possible that there is a space station named Elm out there. Just like the ships are named after monsters.


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** Because it's never actually suggested by anybody and on account of him not being a vampire nobody instinctively goes for it. It probably wouldn't work anyway, the case of Holy Water working on him was on his physical body during a burial, inside the dreamscape what works and doesn't work is entirely tied to the battle of wills between Freddy and his victim.

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