History Headscratchers / AClockWorkOrange

4th Feb '17 3:32:04 AM OlfinBedwere
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** Life sentences are generally only given out for either premeditated or especially sadistic murderers in most European countries. Alex tried to knock that woman out but accidentally ended up killing her, so it's possible that he was actually charged with voluntary manslaughter, and got a harsher than usual sentence for that crime thanks to his past record.
14th Oct '16 1:06:31 AM PrincessGwen
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** More like they [would've] wanted a good outcome for the first patient so they could a.) put it into widespread use, and b.) any time it failed, say, "Well, it worked for ''this'' guy!"
* Alex only got fourteen years for murder?? If Alex was fifteen in the novel and served his full sentence, he would be twenty-nine at his release. Didn't the UK have the life sentence, or are the prisons so over-crowded that judges are giving out short sentences?

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** More like they [would've] would've wanted a good outcome for the first patient so they could a.) put it into widespread use, and b.) any time it failed, say, "Well, it worked for ''this'' guy!"
* Alex only got fourteen years for murder?? murder? If Alex was fifteen in the novel and served his full sentence, he would be twenty-nine at his release. Didn't the UK have the life sentence, or are the prisons so over-crowded that judges are giving out short sentences?



** Sentences in much of Europe are much shorter than in the united states. For instance Arnfinn Nesset confessed to the murder of 27 people and is suspected of killing at least 138 people total and was sentenced to 21 years in prison, which was the maximum punishment allowed for _any_ crime in norway. He was even released after 12 years for good behavior.

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** Sentences in much of Europe are much shorter than in the united states. United States. For instance Arnfinn Nesset confessed to the murder of 27 people and is suspected of killing at least 138 people total and was sentenced to 21 years in prison, which was the maximum punishment allowed for _any_ any crime in norway.Norway. He was even released after 12 years for good behavior.
2nd Oct '16 10:17:09 AM CaptainCrawdad
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*** An orange is useless to eat if it's made of clockwork, a person is useless if they can't choose.
* Ok when I was around 17 or 18 my family forbids me from seeing the movie because "It promotes rape and violence" wheras I only watched it because The Simpsons makes fun of it alot and it's a classic... were my dad and stepmother in the wrong for thinking it promotes rape?
** Maybe, maybe not. The point of the movie/book isn't to glamorize violence or rape, but it does show Alex enjoying violence and rape, and though he does suffer during the story, at the end he seems perfectly ready to go and enjoy more violence and rape. You can view him as a KarmaHoudini. Kubrick pulled the movie from distribution in England after there were some copycat crimes, so at least some people thought Alex and his lifestyle was pretty cool and worth emulating.

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*** An orange is useless to eat if it's made of clockwork, a person is useless if they can't choose.
* Ok when I was around 17 or 18 my family forbids me from seeing the movie because "It promotes rape and violence" wheras I only watched it because The Simpsons makes fun of it alot and it's a classic... were my dad and stepmother in the wrong for thinking it promotes rape?
** Maybe, maybe not. The point of the movie/book isn't to glamorize violence or rape, but it does show Alex enjoying violence and rape, and though he does suffer during the story, at the end he seems perfectly ready to go and enjoy more violence and rape. You can view him as a KarmaHoudini. Kubrick pulled the movie from distribution in England after there were some copycat crimes, so at least some people thought Alex and his lifestyle was pretty cool and worth emulating.
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8th Nov '15 11:26:59 AM Lightice
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*** Norway and other countries following this method of justice system have far lower crime rates and fewer relapsed criminals than the ones that employ more draconian systems, as they focus on rehabilitating prisoners over punishing them. Although the actual time they spend in prison may seem short, they do continue their lives on various degrees of controlled parole long after, and will be sent back with extreme prejudice if they succumb to their old lifestyle, again.
8th Sep '15 3:04:38 PM Bense
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* Ok when I was around 17 or 18 my family forbids me from seeing the movie because "It promotes rape and violence" wheras I only watched it because The Simpsons makes fun of it alot and it's a classic... were my dad and stepmother in the wrong for thinking it promotes rape?

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* Ok when I was around 17 or 18 my family forbids me from seeing the movie because "It promotes rape and violence" wheras I only watched it because The Simpsons makes fun of it alot and it's a classic... were my dad and stepmother in the wrong for thinking it promotes rape?rape?
** Maybe, maybe not. The point of the movie/book isn't to glamorize violence or rape, but it does show Alex enjoying violence and rape, and though he does suffer during the story, at the end he seems perfectly ready to go and enjoy more violence and rape. You can view him as a KarmaHoudini. Kubrick pulled the movie from distribution in England after there were some copycat crimes, so at least some people thought Alex and his lifestyle was pretty cool and worth emulating.
25th Aug '15 11:04:04 PM Technomaru
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*** An orange is useless to eat if it's made of clockwork, a person is useless if they can't choose.

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*** An orange is useless to eat if it's made of clockwork, a person is useless if they can't choose.choose.
* Ok when I was around 17 or 18 my family forbids me from seeing the movie because "It promotes rape and violence" wheras I only watched it because The Simpsons makes fun of it alot and it's a classic... were my dad and stepmother in the wrong for thinking it promotes rape?
2nd Jul '15 12:08:00 AM CharlesPhipps
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*** Alex also asks if the government vecks are trying to turn him into one after the Ludovico treatment.

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*** Alex also asks if the government vecks are trying to turn him into one after the Ludovico treatment.treatment.
*** An orange is useless to eat if it's made of clockwork, a person is useless if they can't choose.
15th Jun '15 3:17:15 PM tropelion
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*** On a side note; if cases like Arnfinn's are true, then Norway and a lot of other countries need to re-think their justice systems.

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*** On a side note; if cases like Arnfinn's are true, then the government of Norway and a lot of other countries need to re-think their justice systems.
15th Jun '15 3:16:29 PM tropelion
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*** On a side note; if cases like Arnfinn's are true, then Norway and a lot of other countries need to re-think their justice systems.
28th Sep '14 3:25:45 AM jwm
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** Sentences in much of Europe are much shorter than in the united states. For instance Arnfinn Nesset confessed to the murder of 27 people and is suspected of killing at least 138 people total and was sentenced to 21 years in prison, which was the maximum punishment allowed for _any_ crime in norway. He was even released after 12 years for good behavior.
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