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***It's either a case of ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney type of scenario, the abuse she goes through isn't physical, or both. Truth in TV, more often than not, CPS tends to investigate homes where the circumstances are already bad or could make the overall situation worse and emotional/verbal abuse isn't something that would get CPS to investigate anyway (not in the US, actually).
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* In the beginning of the film, Sam states she saw Rhonda as a second mother. How come Sam never asked Rhonda to adopt her? Or better yet, how come she never tried to set her dad up with Rhonda? She would’ve been a better stepmom than Fiona.
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* In the beginning of the film, Sam states she saw Rhonda as a second mother. How come Sam never asked Rhonda to adopt her? Or better yet, how come she never tried to set her dad up with Rhonda? She would’ve been a better stepmom than Fiona.Fiona.
** At that kind of young age(pre-Fiona era) , she probably didn't thought about this possibility yet.(Rhonda is already like a family member for her , so not necessarily have to be her (by law) step-mom (according to normal child's mind set).And after Fiona came into picture , even if she thought about this concept at this era , it's also too late.(Her dad is already in a relationship). After her dad's passing , it's also not likely for her to ask Rhonda to adopt her , as her "legal Guardian" by law is her dad's spouse(I.E. Fiona) (Basically , Fiona is good at acting like a suitable Guardian in front of people (that has the power to decide who should take care the child)....So , since by law , Sam is not a "orphan" , it's hard to work out a plan to let Rhonda adopt her.)
** At that kind of young age(pre-Fiona era) , she probably didn't thought about this possibility yet.(Rhonda is already like a family member for her , so not necessarily have to be her (by law) step-mom (according to normal child's mind set).And after Fiona came into picture , even if she thought about this concept at this era , it's also too late.(Her dad is already in a relationship). After her dad's passing , it's also not likely for her to ask Rhonda to adopt her , as her "legal Guardian" by law is her dad's spouse(I.E. Fiona) (Basically , Fiona is good at acting like a suitable Guardian in front of people (that has the power to decide who should take care the child)....So , since by law , Sam is not a "orphan" , it's hard to work out a plan to let Rhonda adopt her.)
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(Since Fiona is most likely still claiming Sam on the tax form , she can pay Sam less salary (Lower than law requirement), while forge the number on tax (to look like she pay Sam a reasonable number) , and since Sam can't fill her own tax (yet) , she can't really fight back or report Fiona's wrong doing.)
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(Since Fiona is most likely still claiming Sam on the tax form , she can pay Sam less salary (Lower than law requirement), while forge the number on tax (to look like she pay Sam a reasonable number) , and since Sam can't fill her own tax (yet) , she can't really fight back or report Fiona's wrong doing.))
* In the beginning of the film, Sam states she saw Rhonda as a second mother. How come Sam never asked Rhonda to adopt her? Or better yet, how come she never tried to set her dad up with Rhonda? She would’ve been a better stepmom than Fiona.
* In the beginning of the film, Sam states she saw Rhonda as a second mother. How come Sam never asked Rhonda to adopt her? Or better yet, how come she never tried to set her dad up with Rhonda? She would’ve been a better stepmom than Fiona.
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** TBH , people often ignore their surrounding.......at least the part that they are not focus on. He is smart indeed , he just , like most of us , didn't really pay much attention to "how other people's life are going on" , outside his regular social circle.
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* From what little we hear of their online conversations, Sam ''does'' mention her father is dead, she works for her witchlike stepmother, and is bullied by the popular kids. Austin doesn't think the little orphan girl his girlfriend tortures on a regular basis, in part for being a poor little orphan girl, could possibly be Cinderella, yet is smart enough to get into Princeton?
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* Why does Fiona force Sam to work at the diner anyway? It's not like she's short on cash if she owns the place, so is she just doing it to be cruel?
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* Why does Fiona force Sam to work at the diner anyway? It's not like she's short on cash if she owns the place, so is she just doing it to be cruel?cruel?
**Short answer , cheap labor and tax.
(Since Fiona is most likely still claiming Sam on the tax form , she can pay Sam less salary (Lower than law requirement), while forge the number on tax (to look like she pay Sam a reasonable number) , and since Sam can't fill her own tax (yet) , she can't really fight back or report Fiona's wrong doing.)
**Short answer , cheap labor and tax.
(Since Fiona is most likely still claiming Sam on the tax form , she can pay Sam less salary (Lower than law requirement), while forge the number on tax (to look like she pay Sam a reasonable number) , and since Sam can't fill her own tax (yet) , she can't really fight back or report Fiona's wrong doing.)
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* How did Austin not recognize Sam's voice when they had the conversation at the diner? They had a lengthy conversation at the dance.
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* How did Austin not recognize Sam's voice when they had the conversation at the diner? They had a lengthy conversation at the dance.dance.
* Why does Fiona force Sam to work at the diner anyway? It's not like she's short on cash if she owns the place, so is she just doing it to be cruel?
* Why does Fiona force Sam to work at the diner anyway? It's not like she's short on cash if she owns the place, so is she just doing it to be cruel?
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** The most Austin has interacted with Sam face to face before this is at the diner with her as waitress and him as customer. How much attention do you pay to the waitress taking your order?
** Probably the bare minimum to give plausible deniability if Sam tried to bring in actual help. Fiona cares about image, even if she's very tacky about it.
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** The dance was at a local venue, not the school. No way they'd be holding the event past midnight.
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*** Agree. With a earthquake happening , it's highly possible for him to just lost balance and break his neck of something.....And , TBH , on second thought , who knows if Fiona is there to "helping" him......
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*** Agree. With a earthquake happening , it's highly possible for him to just lost balance and break his neck of something.....And , TBH , on second thought , who knows if Fiona is there to "helping" him......him......
* Why would a school have a dance that goes past midnight.....on a school night?
* How did Austin not recognize Sam's voice when they had the conversation at the diner? They had a lengthy conversation at the dance.
* Why would a school have a dance that goes past midnight.....on a school night?
* How did Austin not recognize Sam's voice when they had the conversation at the diner? They had a lengthy conversation at the dance.
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** It's possible that after he left Sam's room, he lost his balance due to tremors and fell down the stairs; really, it's not that hard to explain his death from an earthquake that left the house basically undamaged.
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** It's possible that after he left Sam's room, he lost his balance due to tremors and fell down the stairs; really, it's not that hard to explain his death from an earthquake that left the house basically undamaged.undamaged.
*** Agree. With a earthquake happening , it's highly possible for him to just lost balance and break his neck of something.....And , TBH , on second thought , who knows if Fiona is there to "helping" him......
*** Agree. With a earthquake happening , it's highly possible for him to just lost balance and break his neck of something.....And , TBH , on second thought , who knows if Fiona is there to "helping" him......
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** And the whole point of Austin's character is that he's bigoted. Sam straight up tells him in the finale that she was never (emotionally) hiding her true self like he does- the only difference between Sam and Cinderella was that he had preconceived notions about one of them.
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** TruthInTelevision. The impact of CPS and labor laws mean that a child abuse victim in 1600 (around the time Perrault's Cinderella was written) would be much worse off than one in 2004.
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** TruthInTelevision. The impact of CPS and labor laws mean that a child abuse victim in 1600 1697 (around the time Perrault's Cinderella was written) would be much worse off than one in 2004.
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* Cinderella, in this case, has her own spacious fully decorated bedroom, her own computer, her own car, a cell phone, lives in a house in an upper class neighborhood, and goes to a school filled with similarly upper class kids and, therefore, gets a lot of funding for clubs and stuff. Her main source of misery is that she has a steady job in her "wicked" stepmother's cyber cafe. Plus, she's a senior (accutally she's a junior she says "she's graduation a year early) in high school and has excellent grades. She would only have to put up with her horrible relatives for a few more months before she undoubtedly goes off to college with a couple of scholarships under her belt! Most other versions of Cinderella would ''kill'' for a life like this!
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* Cinderella, in this case, has her own spacious fully decorated bedroom, her own computer, her own car, a cell phone, lives in a house in an upper class neighborhood, and goes to a school filled with similarly upper class kids and, therefore, gets a lot of funding for clubs and stuff. Her main source of misery is that she has a steady job in her "wicked" stepmother's cyber cafe. Plus, she's a senior (accutally (actually she's a junior she says "she's graduation a year early) in high school and has excellent grades. She would only have to put up with her horrible relatives for a few more months before she undoubtedly goes off to college with a couple of scholarships under her belt! Most other versions of Cinderella would ''kill'' for a life like this!this!
** TruthInTelevision. The impact of CPS and labor laws mean that a child abuse victim in 1600 (around the time Perrault's Cinderella was written) would be much worse off than one in 2004.
** TruthInTelevision. The impact of CPS and labor laws mean that a child abuse victim in 1600 (around the time Perrault's Cinderella was written) would be much worse off than one in 2004.
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** In general, bullying in Disney Channel films is inaccurately portrayed. High schoolers in RealLife usually go for more covert tactics such as spreading rumors behind someone's back and excluding from events. Directly teasing and name-calling is more common in elementary and middle school. But because the target audience (preteens who watch DisneyChannel) see more direct aggression at their schools, the movie has to show it to be relatable to them. Also they show them getting away with it because kids think teenagers and adults get away with everything.
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** Social Services tends to not get involved if emotional abuse is happening, and only intervenes if there is physical or sexual abuse or if the child is not being fed, clothed, sheltered or getting medical care.
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** We don't know what happened after he leaves the room. A lot of different things could've happened, such as him going outside or going into a part of the house we don't actually see in film. Also, I don't feel Fiona would care much for moving. She was set with his money, which I feel was all she had wanted, and thus wasn't conflicted by guilt to move.
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** We don't know what happened after he leaves the room. A lot of different things could've happened, such as him going outside or going into a part of the house we don't actually see in film. Also, I don't feel Fiona would care much for moving. She was set with his money, which I feel was all she had wanted, and thus wasn't conflicted by guilt to move.
** It's possible that after he left Sam's room, he lost his balance due to tremors and fell down the stairs; really, it's not that hard to explain his death from an earthquake that left the house basically undamaged.
** It's possible that after he left Sam's room, he lost his balance due to tremors and fell down the stairs; really, it's not that hard to explain his death from an earthquake that left the house basically undamaged.
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** This bugged me too, so I have to ask this, were they punished in a deleted scene?
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** Considering how quickly Fiona slipped up once confronted about the will, it's equally possible that she mentioned the letter during a later interrogation, or learning that Fiona had lied about the will prompted Sam to double-check regarding Princeton.
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* So since Sam's father hid his will from Fiona(in Fiona (in the fairytale book),does book), does that mean he realized that Fiona was bad news?
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*** The skit they do to humiliate Sam '''is not funny''' (and not just because we, the audience, sympathize with her). It was painfully unfunny yet everyone is seen dying laughing at it. Then afterwards when it is revealed by Shelby that they are mocking Sam the entire student body keeps laughing like its somehow hysterical and even start chanting "DINER GIRL". Why? It's been awhile since I've seen the film but I'm pretty sure that at no point is it established that they all dislike her. She's just an outcast as far as I remember and only [[AlphaBitch Shelby]] and her [[GirlPosse minions]] dislike her because... well... they're horrible. Why is the entire student body suddenly being so cruel to her? It just makes no sense to me.
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*** The skit they do to humiliate Sam '''is not funny''' (and not just because we, the audience, sympathize with her). It was painfully unfunny yet everyone is seen dying laughing at it. Then afterwards when it is revealed by Shelby that they are mocking Sam Sam, the entire student body keeps laughing like its it's somehow hysterical and even start chanting "DINER GIRL". Why? It's been awhile since I've seen the film but I'm pretty sure that at no point is it established that they all dislike her. She's just an outcast as far as I remember and only [[AlphaBitch Shelby]] and her [[GirlPosse minions]] dislike her because... well... they're horrible. Why is the entire student body suddenly being so cruel to her? It just makes no sense to me.
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* I will admit I haven't seen the entire film in awhile but to my memory other people knew about the abuse Sam was suffering at home. (Please correct me if I'm wrong) Carter, Rhonda, and other minor characters at the diner seem aware of what her home-life is like. So if they all know, why didn't anyone do anything to try and stop? Why did't anyone call [[SocialServicesDoesNotExist Social Services]]?
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* I will admit I haven't seen the entire film in awhile but to my memory other people knew about the abuse Sam was suffering at home. (Please correct me if I'm wrong) Carter, Rhonda, and other minor characters at the diner seem aware of what her home-life is like. So if they all know, why didn't anyone do anything to try and stop? Why did't didn't anyone call [[SocialServicesDoesNotExist Social Services]]?
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*** You'd be suprised at the things Social Services would manage to overlook.
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*** You'd be suprised surprised at the things Social Services would manage to overlook.
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* Couldn't Sam just charge the harrassing boys extra at the restaurant? I mean, I've been reading about how restaurants give discounts if the patrons were well-behaved, so you'd think she'd add a little extra to their bill for teasing her. I bet Rhonda would've agreed!
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* Couldn't Sam just charge the harrassing harassing boys extra at the restaurant? I mean, I've been reading about how restaurants give discounts if the patrons were well-behaved, so you'd think she'd add a little extra to their bill for teasing her. I bet Rhonda would've agreed!
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* Did Sam's father really die from part of the house collapsing? If so wouldn't more of the foundation of the house have come down with it (bringing down the attic/upper levels etc)? We're given no indication of the house being rebuilt and it seems improbable that enough of the house could come down to kill Sam's dad (downstairs) but not enough to kill Sam (upstairs). Also wouldn't Fiona want to- I dunno- ''move'' after a death like that?
** We don't know what happened after he leaves the room. A lot of different things could've happened, such as him going outside or going into a part of the house we don't actually see in film. Also, I don't feel Fiona would care much for moving. ; She was set with his money, which I feel was all she had wanted, and thus wasn't conflicted by guilt to move.
** We don't know what happened after he leaves the room. A lot of different things could've happened, such as him going outside or going into a part of the house we don't actually see in film. Also, I don't feel Fiona would care much for moving. ; She was set with his money, which I feel was all she had wanted, and thus wasn't conflicted by guilt to move.
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* Did Sam's father really die from part of the house collapsing? If so so, wouldn't more of the foundation foundations of the house have come down with it (bringing down the attic/upper levels etc)? We're given no indication of the house being rebuilt and it seems improbable that enough of the house could come down to kill Sam's dad (downstairs) but not enough to kill Sam (upstairs). Also wouldn't Fiona want to- I dunno- ''move'' to--I dunno--''move'' after a death like that?
** We don't know what happened after he leaves the room. A lot of different things could've happened, such as him going outside or going into a part of the house we don't actually see in film. Also, I don't feel Fiona would care much for moving.; She was set with his money, which I feel was all she had wanted, and thus wasn't conflicted by guilt to move.
** We don't know what happened after he leaves the room. A lot of different things could've happened, such as him going outside or going into a part of the house we don't actually see in film. Also, I don't feel Fiona would care much for moving.
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**** If you pay attention to the background characters, a lot of them aren't laughing. The students who are laughing all appear to be from the popular clique, most notably the football players. They just happen to be surrounding Sam and Austin for their reaction shots. A few background characters looked shocked rather than amused, and several of them don't join in with the chanting. It just happens to be that the popular kids are the loudest.
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* It's possible lies were told, a false skit was shown to whoever was supervising, etc. We may never really know.
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* It's possible lies were told, a false skit was shown to whoever was supervising, etc. We may never really know.
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* Did Sam's father really die from part of the house collapsing? If so wouldn't more of the foundation of the house have come down with it (bringing down the attic/upper levels etc)? We're given no indication of the house being rebuilt and it seems improbable that enough of the house could come down to kill Sam's dad (downstairs) but not enough to kill Sam (upstairs). Also wouldn't Fiona want to- I dunno- ''move'' after a death like that?
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* Did Sam's father really die from part of the house collapsing? If so wouldn't more of the foundation of the house have come down with it (bringing down the attic/upper levels etc)? We're given no indication of the house being rebuilt and it seems improbable that enough of the house could come down to kill Sam's dad (downstairs) but not enough to kill Sam (upstairs). Also wouldn't Fiona want to- I dunno- ''move'' after a death like that?that?
**We don't know what happened after he leaves the room. A lot of different things could've happened, such as him going outside or going into a part of the house we don't actually see in film. Also, I don't feel Fiona would care much for moving. ; She was set with his money, which I feel was all she had wanted, and thus wasn't conflicted by guilt to move.
**We don't know what happened after he leaves the room. A lot of different things could've happened, such as him going outside or going into a part of the house we don't actually see in film. Also, I don't feel Fiona would care much for moving. ; She was set with his money, which I feel was all she had wanted, and thus wasn't conflicted by guilt to move.
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** Her mother specifically lied to [[spoiler: keep the diner away from her]] and keep her out of college, so dependent on her. As bad as the other Cinderellas? No. Bad, as compared to the lives of the target audience? Yep.
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** Her mother stepmother specifically lied to [[spoiler: keep the diner away from her]] and keep her out of college, so and therefore dependent on her. As bad as the other Cinderellas? No. Bad, as compared to the lives of the target audience? Yep.
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*** The skit they do to humiliate Sam '''is not funny''' (and not just because we, the audience, sympathize with her). It was painfully unfunny yet everyone is seen dieing dying laughing at it. Then afterwards when it is revealed by Shelby that they are mocking Sam the entire student body keeps laughing like its somehow hysterical and even start chanting "DINER GIRL". Why? It's been awhile since I've seen the film but I'm pretty sure that at no point is it established that they all dislike her. She's just an outcast as far as I remember and only [[AlphaBitch Shelby]] and her [[GirlPosse minions]] dislike her because... well... they're horrible. Why is the entire student body suddenly being so cruel to her? It just makes no sense to me.
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* Did Sam's father really die from part of the house collapsing? If so wouldn't more of the foundation of the house come down with it (bringing down the attic/upper levels etc)? We're given no indication of the house being rebuilt and it seems improbable that enough of the house could come down to kill Sam's dad (downstairs) but not enough to kill Sam (upstairs). Also wouldn't Fiona want to- I dunno- ''move'' after a death like that?
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* Did Sam's father really die from part of the house collapsing? If so wouldn't more of the foundation of the house have come down with it (bringing down the attic/upper levels etc)? We're given no indication of the house being rebuilt and it seems improbable that enough of the house could come down to kill Sam's dad (downstairs) but not enough to kill Sam (upstairs). Also wouldn't Fiona want to- I dunno- ''move'' after a death like that?
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* Did Sam's father really die from part of the house collapsing? If so wouldn't more of the foundation of the house come down with it (bringing down the attic/upper levels etc)? We're given no indication of the house being rebuilt and it seems improbable that enough of the house could come down to kill Sam's dad (downstairs) but not enough to kill Sam (upstairs). Also wouldn't Fiona want to- I dunno- ''move'' after a death like that?
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** She could've, but then those boys would demand to speak to a manager or employer (Fiona) about unfair charges.
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** She could've, but then those boys would demand to speak to a manager or employer (Fiona) about unfair charges.charges.
* Did Sam's father really die from part of the house collapsing? If so wouldn't more of the foundation of the house come down with it (bringing down the attic/upper levels etc)? We're given no indication of the house being rebuilt and it seems improbable that enough of the house could come down to kill Sam's dad (downstairs) but not enough to kill Sam (upstairs).
* Did Sam's father really die from part of the house collapsing? If so wouldn't more of the foundation of the house come down with it (bringing down the attic/upper levels etc)? We're given no indication of the house being rebuilt and it seems improbable that enough of the house could come down to kill Sam's dad (downstairs) but not enough to kill Sam (upstairs).
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* Couldn't Sam just charge the harrassing boys extra at the restaurant? I mean, I've been reading about how restaurants give discounts if the patrons were well-behaved, so you'd think she'd add a little extra to their bill for teasing her. I bet Rhonda would've agreed!
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* Couldn't Sam just charge the harrassing boys extra at the restaurant? I mean, I've been reading about how restaurants give discounts if the patrons were well-behaved, so you'd think she'd add a little extra to their bill for teasing her. I bet Rhonda would've agreed!agreed!
** She could've, but then those boys would demand to speak to a manager or employer (Fiona) about unfair charges.
** She could've, but then those boys would demand to speak to a manager or employer (Fiona) about unfair charges.
