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* ''[[ComicBook/TheEndMarvelComics Venom: The End]]'' has Venom's biological HiveMind vs. the artificial super-intelligences (or "[[LemonyNarrator Team Biolife vs. Team Godmind]]"). Both sides are trying to preserve life, but one wants to do it by way of cloning and reproducing previous life, and the other wants to digitize everything. This also counts as BlueAndOrangeMorality for both sides.

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* ''[[ComicBook/TheEndMarvelComics Venom: The End]]'' ''ComicBook/VenomTheEnd'' has Venom's biological HiveMind vs. the artificial super-intelligences (or "[[LemonyNarrator Team Biolife vs. Team Godmind]]"). Both sides are trying to preserve life, but one wants to do it by way of cloning and reproducing previous life, and the other wants to digitize everything. This also counts as BlueAndOrangeMorality for both sides.
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* ''ComicBook/{{Venom}}: ComicBook/TheEnd'' has Venom's biological HiveMind vs. the artificial super-intelligences (or "[[LemonyNarrator Team Biolife vs. Team Godmind]]"). Both sides are trying to preserve life, but one wants to do it by way of cloning and reproducing previous life, and the other wants to digitize everything. This also counts as BlueAndOrangeMorality for both sides.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Venom}}: ComicBook/TheEnd'' ''[[ComicBook/TheEndMarvelComics Venom: The End]]'' has Venom's biological HiveMind vs. the artificial super-intelligences (or "[[LemonyNarrator Team Biolife vs. Team Godmind]]"). Both sides are trying to preserve life, but one wants to do it by way of cloning and reproducing previous life, and the other wants to digitize everything. This also counts as BlueAndOrangeMorality for both sides.
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* Creator/MarvelComics' ''ComicBook/CivilWar''. Both the sides are portrayed as having flaws and having a point.
* ''ComicBook/VenomTheEnd'': Venom's biological HiveMind vs. the Artificial Super-intelligences (AKA "[[LemonyNarrator Team Biolife vs. Team Godmind]]"). Both sides are trying to preserve life, but one wants to do it by way of cloning and reproducing previous life, and the other wants to digitize everything. This also counts as BlueAndOrangeMorality for both sides.
* ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}''. Dr. Manhattan is the larval form of an EldritchAbomination, both Rorschach and the Comedian are {{sociopathic hero}}es, and [[spoiler:Ozymandias]] is an AntiVillain WellIntentionedExtremist. None of the main characters is unambiguously villainous, but even Nite Owl and Silk Spectre are {{antihero}}es.

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* Creator/MarvelComics' ''ComicBook/CivilWar''. Both In ''ComicBook/CivilWar2006'', both the sides are portrayed as having flaws and having a point.
* ''ComicBook/VenomTheEnd'': ''ComicBook/{{Venom}}: ComicBook/TheEnd'' has Venom's biological HiveMind vs. the Artificial Super-intelligences (AKA artificial super-intelligences (or "[[LemonyNarrator Team Biolife vs. Team Godmind]]"). Both sides are trying to preserve life, but one wants to do it by way of cloning and reproducing previous life, and the other wants to digitize everything. This also counts as BlueAndOrangeMorality for both sides.
* ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}''. ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'': Dr. Manhattan is the larval form of an EldritchAbomination, both Rorschach and the Comedian are {{sociopathic hero}}es, and [[spoiler:Ozymandias]] is an AntiVillain WellIntentionedExtremist. None of the main characters is unambiguously villainous, but even Nite Owl and Silk Spectre are {{antihero}}es.
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** The ''Megatron: Origin'' miniseries shows the series's iconic EvilOverlord's rise to power from a laid-off energon miner through underground [[BloodSport gladiator]] to the leader of a rebellion against a corrupt Cybertronian senate, with the Autobot Security Services presented as an incompetent and in some cases fascistic police force under the control of the aforementioned senate.

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** The ''Megatron: Origin'' ''[[ComicBook/TheTransformersMegatronOrigins Megatron: Origin]]'' miniseries shows the series's iconic EvilOverlord's rise to power from a laid-off energon miner through underground [[BloodSport gladiator]] to the leader of a rebellion against a corrupt Cybertronian senate, with the Autobot Security Services presented as an incompetent and in some cases fascistic police force under the control of the aforementioned senate.
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* ''Franchise/AlienVsPredator'', in both comics and video games, as the Franchise/{{Alien}} is not much sapient, the Franchise/{{Predator}} borders on BlueAndOrangeMorality, and the humans are most times just doing their jobs. Whoever it's the villain depends on the viewpoint character.

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* ''Franchise/AlienVsPredator'', in both comics and video games, as the Franchise/{{Alien}} is not much sapient, the Franchise/{{Predator}} borders on BlueAndOrangeMorality, and the humans are most times just doing their jobs. Whoever it's is the villain depends on the viewpoint character.
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* [[Creator/MarvelComics Marvel's]] ''ComicBook/CivilWar''. Both the sides are portrayed as having flaws and having a point.

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* [[Creator/MarvelComics Marvel's]] Creator/MarvelComics' ''ComicBook/CivilWar''. Both the sides are portrayed as having flaws and having a point.



* In the DC miniseries from the eighties ''Conqueror of the Barren Earth'', there really are no good guys. The protagonist, Jinal Ne'Comarr, wants to conquer the world by force of arms and unite it under her leadership, and conquers and sacks any number of towns and cities in the process. She is the closest the series has to a good guy. The closest the series has to a bad guy is Zhengla, a rival warlord who wants to do exactly what Jinal is trying to do. After one battle, he captures her and [[MadeASlave makes her his slave]]. They end up becoming lovers and joining forces to conquer the world together. So the morality of the series is pretty grey.

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* In the DC miniseries from the eighties ''Conqueror of the Barren Earth'', ''ComicBook/ConquerorOfTheBarrenEarth'', there really are no good guys. The protagonist, Jinal Ne'Comarr, wants to conquer the world by force of arms and unite it under her leadership, and conquers and sacks any number of towns and cities in the process. She is the closest the series has to a good guy. The closest the series has to a bad guy is Zhengla, a rival warlord who wants to do exactly what Jinal is trying to do. After one battle, he captures her and [[MadeASlave makes her his slave]]. They end up becoming lovers and joining forces to conquer the world together. So the morality of the series is pretty grey.
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* ''ComicBook/VenomTheEnd'': Venom's biological HiveMind vs the Artificial Super-intelligences (AKA "[[LemonyNarrator Team Biolife vs Team Godmind]]"). Both sides are trying to preserve life, but one wants to do it by way of cloning and reproducing previous life, and the other wants to digitize everything. This also counts as BlueAndOrangeMorality for both sides.

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* ''ComicBook/VenomTheEnd'': Venom's biological HiveMind vs vs. the Artificial Super-intelligences (AKA "[[LemonyNarrator Team Biolife vs vs. Team Godmind]]"). Both sides are trying to preserve life, but one wants to do it by way of cloning and reproducing previous life, and the other wants to digitize everything. This also counts as BlueAndOrangeMorality for both sides.



* Comicbook/WorldWarHulk: Warbound vs Comicbook/TheIlluminati. The Illuminati weren't guilty of the crime that Hulk was avenging, but they ''were'' the reason he was on Sakaar in the first place.

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* Comicbook/WorldWarHulk: Warbound vs vs. Comicbook/TheIlluminati. The Illuminati weren't guilty of the crime that Hulk was avenging, but they ''were'' the reason he was on Sakaar in the first place.
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* Charley's War from ComicBook/{{Battle}} had both the Germans and English during First World War as NotSoDifferent, which the characters had both a fair share of generally good people being forced into war and SociopathicSoldier. In contrast, the commanders from both sides are generally made up of GeneralRipper with exceptions like [[AFatherToHisMen Lieutenant Thomas]].

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* Charley's War from ComicBook/{{Battle}} had both the Germans and English during First World War as NotSoDifferent, TheHorseshoeEffect, which the characters had both a fair share of generally good people being forced into war and SociopathicSoldier. In contrast, the commanders from both sides are generally made up of GeneralRipper with exceptions like [[AFatherToHisMen Lieutenant Thomas]].
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* ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}''. Dr. Manhattan is the larval form of an EldritchAbomination, both Rorschach and the Comedian are {{sociopathic hero}}es , and [[spoiler:Ozymandias]] is an AntiVillain WellIntentionedExtremist. None of the main characters is unambiguously villainous, but even Nite Owl and Silk Spectre are {{antihero}}es.

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* ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}''. Dr. Manhattan is the larval form of an EldritchAbomination, both Rorschach and the Comedian are {{sociopathic hero}}es , hero}}es, and [[spoiler:Ozymandias]] is an AntiVillain WellIntentionedExtremist. None of the main characters is unambiguously villainous, but even Nite Owl and Silk Spectre are {{antihero}}es.
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** ''The Krypton Chronicles'' presents the Last War between Kryptonian warring states as a conflict with no real villains, but where all sides were perfectly willing to use lethal force. The city-states of Kandor and Erkol tried to nuke each other into surrendering, until one of them deployed a mind-altering weapon to save themselves from being blasted into oblivion.

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** ''The Krypton Chronicles'' ''ComicBook/TheKryptonChronicles'' presents the Last War between Kryptonian warring states as a conflict with no real villains, but where all sides were perfectly willing to use lethal force. The city-states of Kandor and Erkol tried to nuke each other into surrendering, until one of them deployed a mind-altering weapon to save themselves from being blasted into oblivion.
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* ''Venom The End'': Venom's biological HiveMind vs the Artificial Super-intelligences (AKA "[[LemonyNarrator Team Biolife vs Team Godmind]]"). Both sides are trying to preserve life, but one wants to do it by way of cloning and reproducing previous life, and the other wants to digitize everything. This also counts as BlueAndOrangeMorality for both sides.

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* ''Venom The End'': ''ComicBook/VenomTheEnd'': Venom's biological HiveMind vs the Artificial Super-intelligences (AKA "[[LemonyNarrator Team Biolife vs Team Godmind]]"). Both sides are trying to preserve life, but one wants to do it by way of cloning and reproducing previous life, and the other wants to digitize everything. This also counts as BlueAndOrangeMorality for both sides.
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* ComicBook/VenomTheEnd: Venom's biological HiveMind vs the Artificial Super-intelligences (AKA "[[LemonyNarrator Team Biolife vs Team Godmind]]"). Both sides are trying to preserve life, but one wants to do it by way of cloning and reproducing previous life, and the other wants to digitize everything. This also counts as BlueAndOrangeMorality for both sides.

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* ComicBook/VenomTheEnd: ''Venom The End'': Venom's biological HiveMind vs the Artificial Super-intelligences (AKA "[[LemonyNarrator Team Biolife vs Team Godmind]]"). Both sides are trying to preserve life, but one wants to do it by way of cloning and reproducing previous life, and the other wants to digitize everything. This also counts as BlueAndOrangeMorality for both sides.
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* ComicBook/VenomTheEnd: Venom's biological HiveMind vs the Artificial Super-intelligences (AKA "[[LemonyNarrator Team Biolife vs Team Godmind]]"). Both sides are trying to preserve life, but one wants to do it by way of cloning and reproducing previous life, and the other wants to digitize everything. This also counts as BlueAndOrangeMorality for both sides.
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** ''ComicBook/TheKryptonChronicles'' presents the Last War between Kryptonian warring states as a conflict with no real villains, but where all sides were perfectly willing to use lethal force. The city-states of Kandor and Erkol tried to nuke each other into surrendering, until one of them deployed a mind-altering weapon to save themselves from being blasted into oblivion.

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** ''ComicBook/TheKryptonChronicles'' ''The Krypton Chronicles'' presents the Last War between Kryptonian warring states as a conflict with no real villains, but where all sides were perfectly willing to use lethal force. The city-states of Kandor and Erkol tried to nuke each other into surrendering, until one of them deployed a mind-altering weapon to save themselves from being blasted into oblivion.

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* [[Creator/MarvelComics Marvel's]] Comicbook/CivilWar. Both the sides are portrayed as having flaws and having a point.
* ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}''. Dr. Manhattan is the larval form of an EldritchAbomination, both Rorschach and the Comedian are {{sociopathic hero}}es , and [[spoiler:Ozymandias]] is an AntiVillain WellIntentionedExtremist. None of the main characters is unambiguously villainous, but even Nite Owl and Silk Spectre are {{antihero}}es. To quote Zack Snyder, director of the movie adaptation, "Superman doesn't care about humanity, Batman can't get it up, and the bad guy wants world peace."
* IDW's ''[[ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW Megatron: Origin]]'' miniseries shows the series's iconic EvilOverlord's rise to power from a laid-off energon miner through underground [[BloodSport gladiator]] to the leader of a rebellion against a corrupt Cybertronian senate, with the Autobot Security Services presented as an incompetent and in some cases fascistic police force under the control of the aforementioned senate.
** Before this the [[ComicBook/TransformersGenerationOne Dreamwave comic series]] revealed that the Autobot ruling council were servants of the Quintessons, the Transformers' entire history was a lie told to keep the Autobots in line and Megatron, having found all this out, forced the Decepticons to try and free his people and to bring order to the universe, albeit through very KnightTemplar behavior.

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* [[Creator/MarvelComics Marvel's]] Comicbook/CivilWar.''ComicBook/CivilWar''. Both the sides are portrayed as having flaws and having a point.
* ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}''. Dr. Manhattan is the larval form of an EldritchAbomination, both Rorschach and the Comedian are {{sociopathic hero}}es , and [[spoiler:Ozymandias]] is an AntiVillain WellIntentionedExtremist. None of the main characters is unambiguously villainous, but even Nite Owl and Silk Spectre are {{antihero}}es. To quote Zack Snyder, director of the movie adaptation, "Superman doesn't care about humanity, Batman can't get it up, and the bad guy wants world peace."
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* IDW's ''[[ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW Megatron: Origin]]'' ''ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW'':
** The ''Megatron: Origin''
miniseries shows the series's iconic EvilOverlord's rise to power from a laid-off energon miner through underground [[BloodSport gladiator]] to the leader of a rebellion against a corrupt Cybertronian senate, with the Autobot Security Services presented as an incompetent and in some cases fascistic police force under the control of the aforementioned senate.
** Before this the [[ComicBook/TransformersGenerationOne Dreamwave comic series]] this, ''ComicBook/TransformersGenerationOne'' revealed that the Autobot ruling council were servants of the Quintessons, the Transformers' entire history was a lie told to keep the Autobots in line and Megatron, having found all this out, forced the Decepticons to try and free his people and to bring order to the universe, albeit through very KnightTemplar behavior.



* ''Comicbook/SupermanRedSon'': Franchise/{{Superman}} is a totalitarian dictator who brainwashes any domestic political threat [[spoiler:including Batman]], [[ThouShaltNotKill but values human life enough to never kill anybody]] and - to himself, at least - has humanity's best interests at heart, while Comicbook/LexLuthor is totally obsessed with bringing Superman down rather than liberating humanity from Superman's yoke but does so by attempting to prove that he is the better leader. In other words, in this story, Superman's intentions are good but his means are evil, whereas Luthor's is the other way around.

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* ''Comicbook/SupermanRedSon'': Franchise/{{Superman}} ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'':
** ''ComicBook/SupermanRedSon'': Superman
is a totalitarian dictator who brainwashes any domestic political threat [[spoiler:including Batman]], [[ThouShaltNotKill but values human life enough to never kill anybody]] and - to himself, at least - has humanity's best interests at heart, while Comicbook/LexLuthor is totally obsessed with bringing Superman down rather than liberating humanity from Superman's yoke but does so by attempting to prove that he is the better leader. In other words, in this story, Superman's intentions are good but his means are evil, whereas Luthor's is the other way around.around.
** ''ComicBook/TheKryptonChronicles'' presents the Last War between Kryptonian warring states as a conflict with no real villains, but where all sides were perfectly willing to use lethal force. The city-states of Kandor and Erkol tried to nuke each other into surrendering, until one of them deployed a mind-altering weapon to save themselves from being blasted into oblivion.


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* ''ComicBook/{{Amulet}}'': The humans and elves conflict, ultimately. Sure, humans may have been the losing ones in the war, but Cielis has been antagonizing innocent elves and unjustly persecuting them at best and killing them without mercy at worst. They even seceded from Lucien because there were too many 'outsiders', and they have absolutely no qualms using Child Soldiers, judging by how they treat their stonekeeper students like forces needed to be controlled and how the Academy is literally designed like a prison. Even the rest of Windsor is noted to have its share of Fantastic Racism against elves and animals, according to Riva and Enzo. Cielis in particular also abandoned Windsor to save their own skins, even though it was their duty to protect all of Alledia. The elves, meanwhile, may be the instigator of the war and the military has been harassing Windsor's citizens, but it's revealed that they were formerly peaceful, wise, and pacifistic, and that they had helped the humans develop their cities with their technology for ages (including helping build Cielis.) Not only that, but the majority of its army are drafted, meaning it's likely many of them are unwilling and are just forced to fight due to fear of execution. Many of their issues can be traced back to the Elf King, a tyrant leader that uses fear to control them and a leader some of them even resist. Book 8 demonstrates how pointless the entire war is when Emily brings it to a very sudden end by deposing the Elf King.
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* ''Franchise/AlienVsPredator'', in both comics and video games, as the Franchise/{{Alien}} is not much sentient, the Franchise/{{Predator}} borders on BlueAndOrangeMorality, and the humans are most times just doing their jobs. Whoever it's the villain depends on the viewpoint character.

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* ''Franchise/AlienVsPredator'', in both comics and video games, as the Franchise/{{Alien}} is not much sentient, sapient, the Franchise/{{Predator}} borders on BlueAndOrangeMorality, and the humans are most times just doing their jobs. Whoever it's the villain depends on the viewpoint character.
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* This is a major theme of ''ComicBook/BeastWarsUprising'', with none of the factions involved in the Grand Uprising being entirely good or evil. To break it down:
** The Resistance is an army of brave freedom fighters revolting against a tyrannical government to bring freedom to Cybertron. They spend much of their time liberating slaves and dismantling the broken system that failed them. They ''also'' happen to be [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized ruthless terrorists]] with a disturbing WithUsOrAgainstUs mentality. They eventually begin to commit so many atrocities in the name of “freedom” that their own founder [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone starts to regret the entire rebellion]], fearing he’s done nothing but give [[BombThrowingAnarchists a bunch of psychos]] the excuse they wanted to lash out at the world.
** The Builders are AbusivePrecursors who forced the Maximals and Predacons to fight a pointless proxy war for their own entertainment... except that only really applies to the corrupt leadership. Quite a few Builders are shown to be good people who truly care about their creations, and some of them (like Hot Rod) are working hard to [[InternalReformist reform the system from the inside]]. But those reform attempts keep getting derailed when violent rebellions like the Resistance break out...
** The Maximal Command Security Force are the heroic successors to the Autobots, dedicated to upholding law and order on Cybertron. But their ranks are riddled with [[CorruptCop crooked officers]] who only joined because it made them exempt from the Games, and while they protect the innocent and fight crime, they’re also technically enforcers for the fascistic rule of the Builders.
** The Predacon Secret Police are the ruthless successors to the Decepticons, willing to do anything in the name of their duties. But they aren’t pointlessly cruel and are ultimately just doing what they believe they have to in order to protect their society. Further, they’re being actively manipulated by their leaders, the Tripredacus Council, who appropriated the writings of their true founder to justify their [[AmbitionIsEvil selfish ambitions]] and fool the public into aiding them.
** And finally, the Human Confederacy are nigh-utopian society that helped create the Maximals and Predacons and actively prevent the Builders from spreading their madness off-world... but they’re also a bunch of [[CantArgueWithElves elitist]] jerks who caused the whole situation on Cybertron by trapping the Transformers there and setting up the criminally inept Assembly as rulers. They did that to [[DisproportionateRetribution punish the entire race for the actions of the Decepticons]], and did so [[UngratefulBastard even after the Autobots had saved them hundreds of times]].
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The Norsefire government is running death camps, there's no way a morally sound reader could root for them. V is only a Nominal Hero f you think Anarchism is bad, which Alan Moore very much does not.


* ''ComicBook/VForVendetta'': V is a WellIntentionedExtremist trying to bring down the brutally fascist Norsefire regime and its LawfulStupid… Well-Intentioned Extremists. V was portrayed as ALighterShadeOfGrey but still an NominalHero, and the ending pulled no punches about the fact that while getting rid of Norsefire was a good thing in the long run, the short to medium term consequences were ''not'' going to be pretty.
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* Charley's War from ComicBook/Battle had both the Germans and English during First World War as NotSoDifferent, which the characters had both a fair share of generally good people being forced into war and SociopathicSoldier. In contrast, the commanders from both sides are generally made up of GeneralRipper with exceptions like [[AFatherToHisMen Lieutenant Thomas]].

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* Charley's War from ComicBook/Battle ComicBook/{{Battle}} had both the Germans and English during First World War as NotSoDifferent, which the characters had both a fair share of generally good people being forced into war and SociopathicSoldier. In contrast, the commanders from both sides are generally made up of GeneralRipper with exceptions like [[AFatherToHisMen Lieutenant Thomas]].
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* [[Creator/MarvelComics Marvel's]] Comicbook/CivilWar. Both the sides are portrayed as having flaws and having a point.
* ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}''. Dr. Manhattan is the larval form of an EldritchAbomination, both Rorschach and the Comedian are {{sociopathic hero}}es , and [[spoiler:Ozymandias]] is an AntiVillain WellIntentionedExtremist. None of the main characters is unambiguously villainous, but even Nite Owl and Silk Spectre are {{antihero}}es. To quote Zack Snyder, director of the movie adaptation, "Superman doesn't care about humanity, Batman can't get it up, and the bad guy wants world peace."
* IDW's ''[[ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW Megatron: Origin]]'' miniseries shows the series's iconic EvilOverlord's rise to power from a laid-off energon miner through underground [[BloodSport gladiator]] to the leader of a rebellion against a corrupt Cybertronian senate, with the Autobot Security Services presented as an incompetent and in some cases fascistic police force under the control of the aforementioned senate.
** Before this the [[ComicBook/TransformersGenerationOne Dreamwave comic series]] revealed that the Autobot ruling council were servants of the Quintessons, the Transformers' entire history was a lie told to keep the Autobots in line and Megatron, having found all this out, forced the Decepticons to try and free his people and to bring order to the universe, albeit through very KnightTemplar behavior.
* Comicbook/WorldWarHulk: Warbound vs Comicbook/TheIlluminati. The Illuminati weren't guilty of the crime that Hulk was avenging, but they ''were'' the reason he was on Sakaar in the first place.
* ''ComicBook/{{Scalped}}''. Dash is an AntiHero at best, and Red Crow has many shades of being an AntiVillain. He definitely faces enough vile bastards that it's hard to pin him as the worst thing that could happen to the Rez.
* ''Comicbook/SupermanRedSon'': Franchise/{{Superman}} is a totalitarian dictator who brainwashes any domestic political threat [[spoiler:including Batman]], [[ThouShaltNotKill but values human life enough to never kill anybody]] and - to himself, at least - has humanity's best interests at heart, while Comicbook/LexLuthor is totally obsessed with bringing Superman down rather than liberating humanity from Superman's yoke but does so by attempting to prove that he is the better leader. In other words, in this story, Superman's intentions are good but his means are evil, whereas Luthor's is the other way around.
* ''Franchise/AlienVsPredator'', in both comics and video games, as the Franchise/{{Alien}} is not much sentient, the Franchise/{{Predator}} borders on BlueAndOrangeMorality, and the humans are most times just doing their jobs. Whoever it's the villain depends on the viewpoint character.
* In ''ComicBook/TheMovement'', [[LaResistance the titular group]] seeks to help the downtrodden, but engages in some questionable methods and counts a brutal KnightTemplar among their numbers. The police run the gamut from honest cops doing the best they can in the situation to [[DirtyCop corrupt sleazebags]].
* ''ComicBook/VForVendetta'': V is a WellIntentionedExtremist trying to bring down the brutally fascist Norsefire regime and its LawfulStupid… Well-Intentioned Extremists. V was portrayed as ALighterShadeOfGrey but still an NominalHero, and the ending pulled no punches about the fact that while getting rid of Norsefire was a good thing in the long run, the short to medium term consequences were ''not'' going to be pretty.
* ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'': While the comic is largely BlackAndGrayMorality, some stories (''America'' being the best example) play with this by making Judge Dredd himself [[HeroAntagonist the antagonist]] who enforces the totalitarian police state because [[WellIntentionedExtremist he believes it is necessary]]. The regular citizens in those stories are far from shining heroes themselves however, being driven to extreme acts to defend their human rights against the Judges.
* In the DC miniseries from the eighties ''Conqueror of the Barren Earth'', there really are no good guys. The protagonist, Jinal Ne'Comarr, wants to conquer the world by force of arms and unite it under her leadership, and conquers and sacks any number of towns and cities in the process. She is the closest the series has to a good guy. The closest the series has to a bad guy is Zhengla, a rival warlord who wants to do exactly what Jinal is trying to do. After one battle, he captures her and [[MadeASlave makes her his slave]]. They end up becoming lovers and joining forces to conquer the world together. So the morality of the series is pretty grey.
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