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* ''Series/JessicaJones2015'' does some pretty unpleasant things to get Kilgrave, and is rather rude, sarcastic, and belligerent towards most people.



* ''Series/WonderWoman1975'': In the pilot, Wonder Woman blows up a submarine, killing all on board. In "Anschluss 77", she [[TooPowerfulToLive kills the clone of Hitler]] by using her magic lasso to force the doctor to reverse the process.
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* Summer Roberts from ''Series/TheOC'' can be bitchy, rude, and inconsiderate, but she also saves Christmas when needed.
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* Mark Fallon on the ''Series/{{Castle}}'' episodes "Setup" and "Countdown". He is a Homeland Security agent assigned to help track down a bomb. He is an [[KnightInSourArmor extremely dour]] sort but he is dedicated to his job and does it well. His dourness as it turns out comes from the fact that his wife was killed on 9-11.

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* Mark Fallon on the ''Series/{{Castle}}'' ''Series/{{Castle|2009}}'' episodes "Setup" and "Countdown". He is a Homeland Security agent assigned to help track down a bomb. He is an [[KnightInSourArmor extremely dour]] sort but he is dedicated to his job and does it well. His dourness as it turns out comes from the fact that his wife was killed on 9-11.
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* Proceeding Worf on this account would be none other than Spock of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries''. Like most Vulcans he’s haughty, condescending (especially of humans) and coldly logical to near callous degrees and stubborn in his own way. A lot of the TOS crew aside from Kirk and Uhura have real trouble tolerating him ''especially'' Bones who often can’t stand him. Nonetheless Spock is a tremendously brave and noble officer and as ''Film/StarTrekTheWrathOfKhan'' shows someone who will [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifice his own life]] to ensure his crewmates and friends survive. Dr Leonard “Bones” [=McCoy=] himself also counts, he’ll complain about everything under the sun and is even willingly to slap a pregnant woman in retaliation after she smacked him several times for just trying to check her bump, but he’s ultimately still a good man and loyal friend.

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* Proceeding Worf on this account would be none other than Spock of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries''. Like most Vulcans he’s Vulcans, he's haughty, condescending (especially of humans) and coldly logical to near callous degrees and stubborn in his own way. A lot of the TOS ''TOS'' crew aside from Kirk and Uhura have real trouble tolerating him him, ''especially'' Bones Bones, who often can’t can't stand him. Nonetheless Nonetheless, Spock is a tremendously brave and noble officer and as ''Film/StarTrekTheWrathOfKhan'' shows (as ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan'' shows) someone who will [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifice his own life]] to ensure that his crewmates and friends survive. Dr Dr. Leonard “Bones” "Bones" [=McCoy=] himself also counts, he’ll counts; he'll complain about everything under the sun and is even willingly willing to slap a pregnant woman in retaliation after she smacked smacks him several times for just trying to check her bump, but he’s he's ultimately still a good man and loyal friend.
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* ''Series/WonderWoman'': In the pilot, Wonder Woman blows up a submarine, killing all on board. In "Anschluss 77", she [[TooPowerfulToLive kills the clone of Hitler]] by using her magic lasso to force the doctor to reverse the process.

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* ''Series/WonderWoman'': ''Series/WonderWoman1975'': In the pilot, Wonder Woman blows up a submarine, killing all on board. In "Anschluss 77", she [[TooPowerfulToLive kills the clone of Hitler]] by using her magic lasso to force the doctor to reverse the process.
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* Dr. Henry Morgan of ''Series/Forever2014'' is, after over two hundred years, very good at [[SherlockScan reading people (and corpses) at a glance]] and not at all intimidated by being arrested and questioned after a mass murder. His co-workers consider him [[CreepyGood "creepy"]] and he has no qualms about discussing others' faults (such as Det. Martinez's drinking problem after losing her husband, or revealing a suspect's infidelity to his wife). When faced with a stalker who is a fellow immortal, [[spoiler: he eventually uses an air embolism to cause [[AndIMustScream Locked-In Syndrome]] in order to keep him from hurting anyone else.]]
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** Annie January aka Starlight (understandably) becomes this, haughty, headstrong and refusing to ever display any weakness or willingness to back down in light of what she’s suffered she comes off as harsh and cold to the extent even her boyfriend Hughie expresses how hard it is to be in a loving relationship with her. Yet Annie is still an unquestionably a good person and one of the few supers in the show who is actually TheCape.

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** Annie January aka Starlight (understandably) becomes this, haughty, headstrong and refusing to ever display any weakness or willingness to back down in light of what she’s suffered from Vought she comes off as harsh and cold to the extent even cold. In Season 2 she willingly blackmails one of her boyfriend Hughie expresses how hard it is to be in friends Gecko who has a loving relationship HealingFactor with her. a incriminating video just so she can get her hands on Compound V which the heroes need. Yet Annie at her core is still an unquestionably a good person and one of the few supers in the show who is actually TheCape. The Cape, although you know she's become this when even [[NiceGuy Hughie]] has trouble loving her in Season 3.



** Lister is also this to a lesser degree, slobbish, lazy and thuggishly trouble making when given the chance, he is far from the noble and tragic figure supposedly the last human alive ought to be. But he’s still deeply heroic and caring to his friends with his worst nightmare being waking up and discovering he’s actually a Neo-Nazi dictator in a dystopia. Lister may be [[ThePigPen disgusting]] but he is unquestionably a good man.

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** Lister is also this to a lesser degree, slobbish, lazy and thuggishly trouble making troublemaking when given the chance, he is far from the noble and tragic figure supposedly the last human alive ought to be. But he’s still deeply heroic and caring to his friends with his worst nightmare being waking up and discovering he’s actually a Neo-Nazi dictator in a dystopia. Lister may be [[ThePigPen disgusting]] but he is unquestionably a good man.



* Proceeding Worf on this account would be none other than Spock of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries''. Like most Vulcans he’s haughty, condescending (especially of humans) and coldly logical to near callous degrees and stubborn in his own way. A lot of the TOS crew aside from Kirk and Uhura have real trouble tolerating him ''especially'' Bones who often can’t stand him. Nonetheless Spock is a tremendously brave and noble officer and as ''Film/StarTrekTheWrathOfKhan'' shows someone who will [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifice his own life]] to ensure his crewmates and friends survive. Dr Leonard “Bones” [=McCoy=] himself also counts, he’ll complain everything under the sun and is even willingly to slap a pregnant woman in retaliation after she smacked him several times for just trying to check her bump, but he’s ultimately still a good man and loyal friend.

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* Proceeding Worf on this account would be none other than Spock of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries''. Like most Vulcans he’s haughty, condescending (especially of humans) and coldly logical to near callous degrees and stubborn in his own way. A lot of the TOS crew aside from Kirk and Uhura have real trouble tolerating him ''especially'' Bones who often can’t stand him. Nonetheless Spock is a tremendously brave and noble officer and as ''Film/StarTrekTheWrathOfKhan'' shows someone who will [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifice his own life]] to ensure his crewmates and friends survive. Dr Leonard “Bones” [=McCoy=] himself also counts, he’ll complain about everything under the sun and is even willingly to slap a pregnant woman in retaliation after she smacked him several times for just trying to check her bump, but he’s ultimately still a good man and loyal friend.



** [[{{Deconstruction}} Deconstructed]] with Reginald Hargreeves himself who similar to Professor X was aiming for this trope raising his adopted super children harshly with TrainingFromHell that was often ludicrously cruel [[WellIntentionedExtremist in attempt to prevent the apocalypse]]. Except all he managed to do was turn them into a bunch of severely troubled individuals traumatised by his methods to make them heroes and in one case [[spoiler:Vanya]] directly helped cause the apocalypse in the first place [[NiceJobBreakingItHero all because of his horrendous parenting]].

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** [[{{Deconstruction}} Deconstructed]] with Reginald Hargreeves himself who similar to Professor X was aiming for this trope raising his adopted super children harshly with TrainingFromHell that was often ludicrously cruel [[WellIntentionedExtremist in attempt to prevent the apocalypse]]. Except all he managed to do was turn them into a bunch of severely troubled individuals traumatised by his methods to make them heroes and in one case [[spoiler:Vanya]] directly helped cause the apocalypse in the first place [[NiceJobBreakingItHero all because of his horrendous parenting]]. [[spoiler: In Season 3 he's the outright BigBad throwing off the "good" part altogther.]]
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* Saul Tigh of ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'' is an unfriendly, grumpy bastard with an alcohol addiction and is the first to call out for the execution of a Cylon. He's also LawfulGood, fiercely loyal to his best friend and superior Bill Adama and is not afraid to sacrifice himself if necessary.

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* Saul Tigh of ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'' is an unfriendly, grumpy bastard with an alcohol addiction and is the first to call out for the execution of a Cylon. He's also LawfulGood, fiercely loyal to his best friend and superior Bill Adama and is not afraid to sacrifice himself if necessary.

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* ''Series/TheBoys'':
** [[DarkIsNotEvil Billy Butcher]] is a prominent example of this. Grizzled, deeply unpleasant, crass, rude and dropping more F and C bombs than the most foul mouthed sailor alive he makes most anti-heroes look good. Though [[NobleMaleRoguishMale compared]] to someone like Homelander who is [[BewareTheSuperman pure evil and vile]] beneath his [[LightIsNotGood feigned heroic veneer]], Butcher as a FriendToAllChildren PapaWolf who is trying to bring down a corrupt enterprise and stop a bunch superpowered psychopaths, is really more of a superhero than Homelander ever was.
** Kimiko Miyashiro aka The Female is brutal, callous and potential threat to anyone she isn’t personally close to. Though she’s really just a victim underneath her violent tendencies and when given the chance to be something other than just a weapon she takes it.
** Annie January aka Starlight (understandably) becomes this, haughty, headstrong and refusing to ever display any weakness or willingness to back down in light of what she’s suffered she comes off as harsh and cold to the extent even her boyfriend Hughie expresses how hard it is to be in a loving relationship with her. Yet Annie is still an unquestionably a good person and one of the few supers in the show who is actually TheCape.



** [[LovableAlphaBitch Cordelia Chase]] on ''Buffy'' (and to a lesser degree on ''Series/{{Angel}}'') is selfish, abrasive, and, when not being ''intentionally'' rude, is still staggeringly tactless. On the other hand, when it comes to fighting the bad guys, she's as brave as anyone else, loyal, and brutally honest.

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** [[LovableAlphaBitch Cordelia Chase]] on ''Buffy'' (and to a [[TookALevelInKindness much lesser degree degree]] on ''Series/{{Angel}}'') is selfish, abrasive, and, when not being ''intentionally'' rude, is still staggeringly tactless. On the other hand, when it comes to fighting the bad guys, she's as brave as anyone else, loyal, and brutally honest.


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* ''Series/RedDwarf'':
** Arnold Rimmer fits this trope very well. A ControlFreak, a DirtyCoward and {{Jerkass}} Rimmer is nigh-unbearable to his crew with his best trait being according to Lister that he “sometimes left the room”. Yet when the chips are down Arnie frequently proves to be quite hero after all, seen in the Season 6 finale where when faced with the [[FutureMeScaresMe evil versions]] of themselves from the future Rimmer is the one who declares they should fight, preferring to die as they are rather than turn out like them i.e “Better dead than Smeg”. Additionally Rimmer’s AlternateSelf Ace Rimmer is an IdealHero, showing he does have the makings of a truly good man beneath his obnoxious qualities.
** Cat is in similar boat. [[ItsAllAboutMe Vain, bossy, selfish and ridiculously petty]] Cat mostly treats his friends as people he has to put up (or in Lister’s case someone who feeds him) in his quest to be dress fabulously and get laid. He’s totally okay with threatening to shoot Lister with a Bazookoid when the latter is trying to show off his “[[DreadfulMusician guitar skills]]” and in general is loves insulting and coming up with cruel nicknames for Lister, Rimmer and Kryten. Yet in ''Recap/RedDwarfThePromisedLand'' when offered by fellow Felis sapien Rodon [[spoiler:his evil brother]] to leave the Red Dwarf crew and come home to his people, Cat [[WhatYouAreInTheDark refuses]] saying he’s “already home”.
** Lister is also this to a lesser degree, slobbish, lazy and thuggishly trouble making when given the chance, he is far from the noble and tragic figure supposedly the last human alive ought to be. But he’s still deeply heroic and caring to his friends with his worst nightmare being waking up and discovering he’s actually a Neo-Nazi dictator in a dystopia. Lister may be [[ThePigPen disgusting]] but he is unquestionably a good man.


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* Lieutenant Commander Worf of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' and ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''. Callous, impatient, rude, thinks human females are fragile and generally is more of an irritable buzzkill than most Klingons (which really is saying something). When it comes to safety of his fellow officers, ensigns and family members however Worf is deeply protective and caring, having a HiddenHeartOfGold despite his best efforts to be nothing but a ProudWarriorRaceGuy.
* Proceeding Worf on this account would be none other than Spock of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries''. Like most Vulcans he’s haughty, condescending (especially of humans) and coldly logical to near callous degrees and stubborn in his own way. A lot of the TOS crew aside from Kirk and Uhura have real trouble tolerating him ''especially'' Bones who often can’t stand him. Nonetheless Spock is a tremendously brave and noble officer and as ''Film/StarTrekTheWrathOfKhan'' shows someone who will [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifice his own life]] to ensure his crewmates and friends survive. Dr Leonard “Bones” [=McCoy=] himself also counts, he’ll complain everything under the sun and is even willingly to slap a pregnant woman in retaliation after she smacked him several times for just trying to check her bump, but he’s ultimately still a good man and loyal friend.


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* ''Series/TheUmbrellaAcademy'':
** Five is like a pint-sized Hans Gruber for how utterly ruthless and conceited he is, he’s perfectly willingly to kill a room full of people if it means his siblings and himself can get the chance to go home. Although despite his best efforts to prove otherwise, he is deep down a good person who genuinely loves his siblings.
** [[{{Deconstruction}} Deconstructed]] with Reginald Hargreeves himself who similar to Professor X was aiming for this trope raising his adopted super children harshly with TrainingFromHell that was often ludicrously cruel [[WellIntentionedExtremist in attempt to prevent the apocalypse]]. Except all he managed to do was turn them into a bunch of severely troubled individuals traumatised by his methods to make them heroes and in one case [[spoiler:Vanya]] directly helped cause the apocalypse in the first place [[NiceJobBreakingItHero all because of his horrendous parenting]].
* ''Series/TheWitcher2019'': Geralt of Rivia is as warm and fuzzy person as Darth Vader (and even has a similar wardrobe) being extremely intimidating, taciturn, ruthless and grumpy as hell. The only five things he seems to genuinely like are: Roach (his horse), Ciri (his child surprise), Yennefer (his lover), fellow Witchers and occasionally Jaskier (his bard sidekick). Regardless he’s still a DarkIsNotEvil hero fighting actual monsters and equally monstrous human villains.
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* Detective Frank Pembleton from ''Series/HomicideLifeOnTheStreet'' is an arrogant snob who frequently bends the rules to solve his cases, and by his own admission can hover dangerously close to becoming a DirtyCop. However, at his core he is a fundamentally good man [[AllLovingHero who genuinely views all life as equal]] and dedicates himself fully to bringing justice to murder victims as best he can.
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* And following this pattern, Dr. Reid Oliver from ''Series/AsTheWorldTurns''. There's a reason why his FandomNickname was Dr. Series/{{House}}.
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** Adam, then a new companion of the Ninth Doctor's, [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E7TheLongGame winds up]] in a future news station and gets tempted at the prospect of using future knowledge in his relative present to make money. This indirectly endangers the Doctor, who nonetheless escapes unharmed. The Doctor's punishment? [[spoiler:Taking Adam back to the present with a future device in his head that opens panels to his brain whenever someone snaps their fingers. He tells Adam, a child genius who's seen the future first-hand, that if he wants to escape being dissected by the government for his future tech, he has to live a dull life]].

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** Adam, Adam Mitchell, then a new companion of the Ninth Doctor's, [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E7TheLongGame winds up]] in a future news station and gets tempted at the prospect of using future knowledge in his relative present to make money. This indirectly endangers the Doctor, who nonetheless escapes unharmed. The Doctor's punishment? [[spoiler:Taking Adam back to the present with a future device in his head that opens panels to his brain whenever someone snaps their fingers. He tells Adam, a child genius who's seen the future first-hand, that if he wants to escape being dissected by the government for his future tech, he has to live a dull life]].
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** For a single episode character, there was Seevis from ''Series/StargateSG1'' seasn 9 episode "Crusade". He was the secret leader of the Anti-Ori resistance who has Vala chained to an altar for three days to prove her allegiance, and his plan to stop the Ori crusade involves an attack that would wipe out thousands of their followers, including innocent women and children. He also acts like a brute in his day job as the town administrator/barkeep in order to maintain his cover.
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* ''Series/PowerRangersTimeForce'':
** Alex, the original Red Ranger from the 31st century, was definitely this during the brief time he came to the present. He genuinely wanted to save the future, but the way he forced Wes to relinquish the morpher and took over leadership of the team didn't earn him any sympathy from the other Rangers. It all comes to a head when, after their failure to defeat Dragontron, he spends more time berating and refusing to listen to them until they decide to stand up to him and give the powers back to Wes.
** Eric, the Quantum Ranger is a notable example of remaining an AloofAlly more than a proper SixthRanger, given that he never makes attempts to socialize with the others, and constantly rejects Wes' attempts to be friendly to him. He gets better by the finale, though.

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