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21st Sep '17 5:48:01 AM shokoshu
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* Doing unjustice to ''everyone'', one can state the following trope zig-zag of German pop:
-->1945-1976: Noone cares about German pop outside Germany
-->1976-1985: Neue Deutsche Welle! Songs get covered even in ''Spain''! Nena is #1 in the British charts!
-->1985-now: see 1945-1976.
16th Sep '17 9:50:18 AM bowserbros
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* Following accusations of child molestation in 1993, Music/MichaelJackson[='s=] reputation pretty much collapsed overnight... in the US anyways. In the rest of the world, however, Jackson had a much easier time finding success in spite of the controversy thanks to other countries not necessarily giving a shit about the allegations, allowing Jackson to maintain high levels of popularity in Europe and especially in Japan. His Japanese fame is particularly noteworthy due to it mainly stemming from ValuesDissonance: not only were his child molestation charges brushed off by the Japanese public thanks to their distrust of the legal system (which is notoriously corrupt in Japan, with wrongful imprisonments being surprisingly common), but Jackson's quirks and eccentricities are also seen as endearing in Japanese culture rather than being frowned down upon; [[http://yurikageyama.com/2013/09/why-the-japanese-love-michael-jackson-an-essay-by-yuri-kageyama/ Yuri Kageyama]]'s essay on Jackson's popularity in the land of the rising sun outright states that Japanese culture considers the King of Pop to be "kawaii".

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* Following accusations of child molestation in 1993, Music/MichaelJackson[='s=] reputation pretty much collapsed overnight... in the US anyways. In the rest of the world, however, Jackson had a much easier time finding success in spite of the controversy thanks to other countries not necessarily giving a shit about the allegations, allowing Jackson to maintain high levels of popularity in Europe and especially in Japan. His Japanese fame is particularly noteworthy due to it mainly stemming from ValuesDissonance: not only were his child molestation charges brushed off by the Japanese public thanks to their distrust of the legal system (which is notoriously corrupt in Japan, with wrongful imprisonments being surprisingly common), but Jackson's quirks and eccentricities are also seen as endearing in Japanese culture rather than being frowned down upon; [[http://yurikageyama.com/2013/09/why-the-japanese-love-michael-jackson-an-essay-by-yuri-kageyama/ Yuri Kageyama]]'s essay Kageyama's essay]] on Jackson's popularity in the land of the rising sun outright states that Japanese culture considers the King of Pop to be "kawaii".
16th Sep '17 9:49:44 AM bowserbros
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* Following accusations of child molestation in 1993, Music/MichaelJackson[='s=] reputation pretty much collapsed overnight... in the US anyways. In the rest of the world, however, Jackson had a much easier time finding success in spite of the controversy thanks to other countries not necessarily giving a shit about the allegations, allowing Jackson to maintain high levels of popularity in Europe and especially in Japan. His Japanese fame is particularly noteworthy due to it mainly stemming from ValuesDissonance: not only were his child molestation charges brushed off by the Japanese public thanks to their distrust of the legal system (which is notoriously corrupt in Japan, with false imprisonments being surprisingly common), but Jackson's quirks and eccentricities are also seen as endearing in Japanese culture rather than being frowned down upon; [[http://yurikageyama.com/2013/09/why-the-japanese-love-michael-jackson-an-essay-by-yuri-kageyama/ Yuri Kageyama]]'s essay on Jackson's popularity in the land of the rising sun outright states that Japanese culture considers the King of Pop to be "kawaii".

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* Following accusations of child molestation in 1993, Music/MichaelJackson[='s=] reputation pretty much collapsed overnight... in the US anyways. In the rest of the world, however, Jackson had a much easier time finding success in spite of the controversy thanks to other countries not necessarily giving a shit about the allegations, allowing Jackson to maintain high levels of popularity in Europe and especially in Japan. His Japanese fame is particularly noteworthy due to it mainly stemming from ValuesDissonance: not only were his child molestation charges brushed off by the Japanese public thanks to their distrust of the legal system (which is notoriously corrupt in Japan, with false wrongful imprisonments being surprisingly common), but Jackson's quirks and eccentricities are also seen as endearing in Japanese culture rather than being frowned down upon; [[http://yurikageyama.com/2013/09/why-the-japanese-love-michael-jackson-an-essay-by-yuri-kageyama/ Yuri Kageyama]]'s essay on Jackson's popularity in the land of the rising sun outright states that Japanese culture considers the King of Pop to be "kawaii".
16th Sep '17 9:49:16 AM bowserbros
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* Following accusations of child molestation in 1993, Music/MichaelJackson[='s=] reputation pretty much collapsed overnight... in the US. In the rest of the world, however, Jackson had a much easier time finding success in spite of the controversy, maintaining high levels of popularity in Europe and especially in Japan. His Japanese fame is particularly noteworthy due to it mainly stemming from ValuesDissonance, with his quirks and eccentricities being seen as endearing in Japanese culture rather than being frowned down upon; [[http://yurikageyama.com/2013/09/why-the-japanese-love-michael-jackson-an-essay-by-yuri-kageyama/ Yuri Kageyama]]'s essay on Jackson's popularity in the land of the rising sun outright states that Japanese culture considers the King of Pop to be "kawaii".

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* Following accusations of child molestation in 1993, Music/MichaelJackson[='s=] reputation pretty much collapsed overnight... in the US. US anyways. In the rest of the world, however, Jackson had a much easier time finding success in spite of the controversy, maintaining controversy thanks to other countries not necessarily giving a shit about the allegations, allowing Jackson to maintain high levels of popularity in Europe and especially in Japan. His Japanese fame is particularly noteworthy due to it mainly stemming from ValuesDissonance, ValuesDissonance: not only were his child molestation charges brushed off by the Japanese public thanks to their distrust of the legal system (which is notoriously corrupt in Japan, with his false imprisonments being surprisingly common), but Jackson's quirks and eccentricities being are also seen as endearing in Japanese culture rather than being frowned down upon; [[http://yurikageyama.com/2013/09/why-the-japanese-love-michael-jackson-an-essay-by-yuri-kageyama/ Yuri Kageyama]]'s essay on Jackson's popularity in the land of the rising sun outright states that Japanese culture considers the King of Pop to be "kawaii".
15th Sep '17 5:56:51 AM bowserbros
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* Following accusations of child molestation in 1993, Music/MichaelJackson[='s=] reputation pretty much collapsed overnight... in the US. In the rest of the world, however, Jackson had a much easier time finding success in spite of the controversy, maintaining high levels of popularity in Europe and especially in Japan. His Japanese fame is particularly noteworthy due to it mainly stemming from ValuesDissonance, with his quirks and eccentricities being seen as endearing in Japanese culture rather than being frowned down upon; [[http://yurikageyama.com/2013/09/why-the-japanese-love-michael-jackson-an-essay-by-yuri-kageyama/ Yuri Kageyama]]'s essay on Jackson's popularity in the land of the rising sun outright states that Japanese culture considers the King of Pop to be "kawaii".
14th Sep '17 8:18:24 AM Twentington
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* American CountryMusic duo The Bellamy Brothers has been quite successful in patches of Europe for many years. Their debut single "Let Your Love Flow" was popular enough in West Germany that it was covered in German by Jürgen Drews as well, and it had a surge in popularity in the UK in 2008 when it was used in a Barclaycard advert. "If I Said You Had a Beautiful Body Would You Hold It Against Me" was popular in Northern Ireland before it hit in the US, and they have had popular European albums with Swiss musician Gölä and German musician DJ Ötzi.

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* American CountryMusic duo The Bellamy Brothers has been quite successful in patches of Europe for many years. Their debut single "Let Your Love Flow" was popular enough in West Germany that it was covered in German by Jürgen Drews as well, and it had a surge in popularity in the UK in 2008 when it was used in a Barclaycard advert. Their BreakthroughHit "If I Said You Had a Beautiful Body Would You Hold It Against Me" was popular in Northern Ireland before it hit in the US, and they have had popular European albums with Swiss musician Gölä and German musician DJ Ötzi.Ötzi long after the Bellamys' success had faded in the States.
13th Sep '17 7:13:49 PM nombretomado
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* Alt-country musician David Eugene Edwards hails from Colorado, yet his bands--Music/SixteenHorsepower and WovenHand--are far more popular in Netherlands. For a while,  was ''the'' most popular band in the Netherlands.

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* Alt-country musician David Eugene Edwards hails from Colorado, yet his bands--Music/SixteenHorsepower and WovenHand--are Music/WovenHand--are far more popular in Netherlands. For a while,  was ''the'' most popular band in the Netherlands.
9th Sep '17 12:51:30 PM notahandle
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* Their predecessors, Music/JoyDivision, had developed a fanbase among hip-hop artists like Music/DannyBrown and [[Music/{{OFWGKTA}} Tyler the Creator]] in the 2010s. One of the reasons is that many of their songs (about depression and failure) resonance with these artists, which is why Vince Staples said that "Music/BBKing and Ian Curtis sing about the same things".

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* Their predecessors, Music/JoyDivision, had developed a fanbase among alternative hip-hop artists like Music/DannyBrown and [[Music/{{OFWGKTA}} Tyler the Creator]] in the 2010s. One of the reasons is that many of their songs (about depression and failure) resonance with these artists, which is why Vince Staples said that "Music/BBKing and Ian Curtis sing about the same things".
6th Sep '17 9:20:22 PM Ezclee4050
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* American musician (Sixto Diaz) Music/{{Rodriguez}}'s story might be the strongest occurence of this trope. He has released two unsuccessful albums in the early 70's before he quit music. Only in 1998, while working on a building site, he came to know that he was a big star in South Africa all along. Rodriguez's fame was amongst the older crowd who remembered him from the 70s. His popularity was [[VindicatedByHistory revived in the late 1990s]] when his song Sugar Man was covered by a well known South African folk-rock band called Just Ginger (later changed to Just Jinger when the band moved to the USA).

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* American musician (Sixto Diaz) Music/{{Rodriguez}}'s story might be the strongest occurence of this trope. He has released two unsuccessful albums in the early 70's before he quit music.music[[note]]Though he toured Australia at the end of TheSeventies when he became subject to this trope Down Under[[/note]]. Only in 1998, while working on a building site, he came to know that he was a big star in South Africa all along. Rodriguez's fame was amongst the older crowd who remembered him from the 70s. His popularity was [[VindicatedByHistory revived in the late 1990s]] when his song Sugar Man was covered by a well known South African folk-rock band called Just Ginger (later changed to Just Jinger when the band moved to the USA).
6th Sep '17 9:15:08 PM Ezclee4050
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* Jim Reeves had some popularity in the US during the 1950's but became extremely popular in South Africa, Britain, Ireland, Norway, India and Sri Lanka. In South Africa he was popular enough to star in a locally-made movie called ''Kimberly Jim'' and went on to record Afrikaans folk songs. After his death he is still remarkably popular in many of the aforementioned countries. In India and Sri Lanka his Christmas Carol albums are perennial favorites while a 'Best of' album reached No. 7 on the UK album charts as recently as 2009, though you'd be hard pressed to find an American today who knows who Jim Reeves is.

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* Jim Reeves had some popularity in the US during the 1950's TheFifties and TheSixties but became extremely popular in South Africa, Britain, Ireland, Norway, India and Sri Lanka. In South Africa he was popular enough to star in a locally-made movie called ''Kimberly Jim'' and went on to record Afrikaans folk songs. After Long after his [[AuthorExistenceFailure death he is in a 1964 plane crash]] he's still remarkably popular in many of the aforementioned countries. In India and Sri Lanka his Christmas Carol albums are perennial favorites while a 'Best of' album reached No. 7 on the UK album charts as recently as 2009, though you'd be hard pressed to find an while any modern American today who knows doesn't happen to be a fan of classic CountryMusic would have no clue who Jim Reeves is.you were talking about if you said "Jim Reeves" .
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