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** And do what? Reveal that Coco was behind her success? Even if Sari tried to blackmail Coco, as her assistant and henchperson, Coco has information on her.

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** And do what? Reveal that Coco was behind her success? Even if Sari tried to She can hardly blackmail Coco, as her assistant and henchperson, Coco has information with anything - the truth of Coco's prior employment and what was really going on her.
there coming out would be infinitely more damaging to Suri than it could ever be to Coco. Try to make Coco knuckle under to emotional intimidation? That's clearly Suri's best skill, but now that Coco's found the strength to defy her once its not something Suri can be sure of working anymore... after all, Coco would ''still be there'' if it hadn't stopped working already. Have Coco attacked by thugs? Suri's an emotionally abusive plagiarist fashion designer, not an organized crime kingpin, and it would be a bit out-of-genre for the show besides. (Even if it's probably being written into a fanfic as we speak.) Try to pull strings to wreck Coco's life or limit her career opportunities? Seems to be the only method with any real possibility, but that would just get us another episode if Coco didn't clutch the IdiotBall and instead simply wrote Rarity a letter.
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***[[SarcasmMode Goodness gracious, how]] ''[[SarcasmMode terrible]]'' [[SarcasmMode it is that there are people out there who think there's something iffy about pornography about cartoon horses from a series aimed at small children.]]
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** Fans have pondered that Chrysalis was one of Tartarus' prisoners, for starters...

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** Fans have pondered that Chrysalis was might have been one of Tartarus' prisoners, for starters...prisoners. Or that Sombra might have been one. Both of them did make first appearances relatively soon after "It's About Time".
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** It would be appropriate for this show to display an Aesop of 'Treasuring things that have meaning to you is all right in its place; but if push ultimately comes to shove you should first choose to save lives, not objects.' [[spoiler: Which is why the scene is framed to show Twilight passing up a chance to grab any of her posessions to instead shield Owlowiscious from the blast with her own body.]]

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** It would be appropriate for this show to display an Aesop of 'Treasuring things that have meaning to you is all right in its place; but if push ultimately comes to shove you should first choose to save lives, not objects.' [[spoiler: Which is why the scene is framed to show Twilight passing up a chance to grab any of her posessions to instead shield Owlowiscious from the blast with her own body. He didn't ''have'' to be in that particular scene, after all; reassuring the audience that the owl didn't die could be done as simply as showing him during the group musical # at the end. Instead, screen time is devoted specifically to Twilight saving him.]]
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** It would be appropriate for this show to display an Aesop of 'Treasuring things that have meaning to you is all right in its place; but if push ultimately comes to shove you should first choose to save lives, not objects.' [[spoiler: Which is why the scene is framed to show Twilight passing up a chance to grab any of her posessions to instead shield Owlowiscious from the blast with her own body.]]
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* [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E3TheTicketMaster Once again]], Spike ends up singed from the effects of a spell cast by Twilight. It's been established that he's supposed to be fireproof. Just how strong ''was'' that fire spell Twilight used to light the flame, and what would it have done to a non-dragon?
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** It is possible -- and given that they likely want to use Cloudsdale in season 5, as well as avoid the social and political consequences of dealing with The Great Pegasus Die-Off -- that pegasi still get enough glide angle from their wings, sans magic, to turn 'fatal crash' into 'rough landing'. Even so, that's still a lot of bruised pegasi laying around the landscape. Ditto griffons.

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** It is possible -- and given that they likely want to use Cloudsdale in season 5, as well as avoid the social and political consequences of dealing with The Great Pegasus Die-Off Die-Off, also probable -- that pegasi still get enough glide angle from their wings, sans magic, to turn 'fatal crash' into 'rough landing'. Even so, that's still a lot of bruised pegasi laying around the landscape. Ditto griffons.
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** It is possible -- and given that they likely want to use Cloudsdale in season 5, as well as avoid the social and political consequences of dealing with The Great Pegasus Die-Off -- that pegasi still get enough glide angle from their wings, sans magic, to turn 'fatal crash' into 'rough landing'. Even so, that's still a lot of bruised pegasi laying around the landscape. Ditto griffons.
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* When [[spoiler:Tirek]] stole flight, he would also have stolen inertial damping. First, this means that some of the low-flying pegasi we see have massive injuries. Second, many pegasi (and griffons) would have been higher up. It is a given that [[DisneyVillainDeath nopony in Cloudsdale has survived]], and that nearly every pegasus and griffon in the world is in mourning for some loved ones.
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** As of season 3, Discord is [[HeelFaceTurn good]]. [[TitleDrop Magic of Friendship]].

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** As of season 3, Discord is [[HeelFaceTurn good]]. [[TitleDrop Magic of Friendship]]. (OK, he had a relapse in season 4, but he's even better now.)
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* The stars themselves assisted in the escape of the most powerful villain of the series to date. This means that by either the will of the stars, or some other terrible will, a creature capable of plunging the world in eternal darkness was released. The stars, or something controlling, representing, or within the stars override the power of Celestia and the Elements of Harmony. The stars are alive, capable of judgement, more powerful than anything in Equestria. If Luna and Celestia are the gods of this world, the stars are the elder gods, and they do not want to be our friends.

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* The stars themselves assisted in the escape of one of the most powerful villain villains of the series to date. This means that by either the will of the stars, or some other terrible will, a creature capable of plunging the world in eternal darkness was released. The stars, or something controlling, representing, or within the stars override the power of Celestia and the Elements of Harmony. The stars are alive, capable of judgement, more powerful than anything in Equestria. If Luna and Celestia are the gods of this world, the stars are the elder gods, and they do not want to be our friends.
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* [[spoiler: The mere idea of Tirek winning. Obviously the other villains have had horrible designs, but for him, the fact that he plans to drain the magic from every being he find brings something even worse to mind. Celestia states that if he wins, there will be nobody to control the weather, liking leaving it completely stagnant, nobody with the strength to work the earth to grow food, and he aimed to the magic to control the sun and moon. Not only would he leave all of Equestria too weak to left a finger against him, futile as it would be, but his take over could easily end of life in Equestria with the weather and the sun and moon left unchecked, and the ponies would not be able to support themselves. Tirek either never seemed to consider that, or he didn't care as long he got power.]]
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* [[spoiler:Twilight Sparkle's library]] gets completely destroyed. She gets a new [[spoiler:castle]] at the end to replace it, but this goes into EsotericHappyEnding territory since this doesn't replace [[spoiler:all of the books that were inside the library, which were said to be of great sentimental value to her.]]
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* So Tirek [[spoiler: drains the Mane Cast, including Spike.]] Remember, just a few episodes prior, Spike had eaten a book of dark magic. It's possible that [[spoiler: Tirek managed to drain that out of him.]] Now it's probably pretty minor compared to all the other magic he'd drained by then, but just immagine the horrors [[spoiler: Inspiration Manifestation ''combined with Discord's magic'' could cause.]]
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*** Rarity might have been animating her tail with her telekinesis, so its not necessarily prehensile.
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*** Rarity might have been animating her tail with her telekinesis, so its not necessarily prehensile.
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*** Not to mention, she has the support and backing of one of the most influential ponies in Canterlot - Fancy Pants, who more than likely considers Rarity a good friend. That connection and support alone really boosted her standing in Canterlot society in "Sweet and Elite".

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*** Not to mention, she has the support and backing of one of the most influential ponies in Canterlot - Fancy Pants, who more than likely considers Rarity a good friend. That connection and support alone really boosted her standing in Canterlot society in "Sweet and Elite". Not to mention the part where one of her best friends is now an alicorn princess, and three other alicorn princesses are socially acquainted with her on a first name basis.
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* Another reason is because ''[[TheMessiah Fluttershy]]'' was the one telling them off. Seeing their formerly sweet and gentle friend expel so much bile must have been very hard for them. The most horrifying thing about the argument is that Fluttershy actually thought about how meaningless her friends passions are, and ''she wasn't being manipulated into it''.

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* Another reason is because ''[[TheMessiah Fluttershy]]'' ''Fluttershy'' was the one telling them off. Seeing their formerly sweet and gentle friend expel so much bile must have been very hard for them. The most horrifying thing about the argument is that Fluttershy actually thought about how meaningless her friends passions are, and ''she wasn't being manipulated into it''.
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** [[https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/199764/the-10-creepiest-things-about-my-little-pony The 10 Creepiest Things About My Little Pony]] is a list of MLP-FiM fridge horrors.

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** [[https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/199764/the-10-creepiest-things-about-my-little-pony The 10 Creepiest Things About My Little Pony]] is a list of MLP:FiM fridge horrors.
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** Fans have pondered that Chrysalis was one of Tartarus' prisoners, for starters...
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** In season 4's finale, we see ''one'' of the evils trapped there. [[spoiler:Namely ''Tirek'']]. Considering he was so powerful [[spoiler:sending Discord to stop him]] was considering the appropriate course of action, it seems probably Tartarus ''does'' have evils ''worse'' than Discord.
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* [[spoiler:Lord Tirek]] escaped from Tartarus, and unlike the previous escaped evil, Tartarus isn't just ''his'' [[SealedEvilInACan can]] but a ''prison'' for the worst evils in Equestria. Tirek is capable of sucking ponies dry and is so ungodly powerful that sending ''freaking Discord'' to stop him is considered the best solution and the Princesses are [[spoiler:forced to give their magic to Twilight ''just'' to keep it safe from him]]. Just ''one'' of the evils sealed in Tartarus is ''that'' powerful. Just what ''else'' is down there?!
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** [[spoiler:How about ''Motherfucking [[HijackedByGanon Tirek]]?!'']]
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* As of the later seasons, we see that Twilight has a bit of a problem with falling back on mind-altering spells (Discord and the fruit bats). When you consider that the foalsitter she adored and idolized made a habit of magically "fixing" the personal lives of complete strangers, this begins to make sense.
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** Not to mention that the secret service ponies simply said that there was no time to cut the spell.
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* A bit of dynamic between Rarity and Twilight Sparkle is really horrid when you think about it. We've seen in several episodes that Rarity dreams of, and it some cases actively pursues, acceptance by the Canterlot nobility. However, take what we know about Twilight. Her brother is captain of the Canterlot guards, her parents were able to get her a chance to get into the best unicorn school in Canterlot, and Twilight is pretty chummy with Celestia. Twilight's family is pretty up there, socially, even moreso following Shining Armor's wedding to Cadence. Twilight is already Canterlot nobility. Status-wise, she's everything Rarity wishes she could be. Unfortunately for Rarity, being born and raised in Ponyville makes Rarity roughly equal to a nouveau-riche southern belle, which weren't looked at kindly by the English aristocracy. It really makes Rarity's wish to be accepted in Canterlot a lot like a TragicDream she can never see come true.

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* A bit of dynamic between Rarity and Twilight Sparkle is really horrid when you think about it. We've seen in several episodes that Rarity dreams of, and it some cases actively pursues, acceptance by the Canterlot nobility. However, take what we know about Twilight. Her brother is captain of the Canterlot guards, her parents were able to get her a chance to get into the best unicorn school in Canterlot, and Twilight is pretty chummy with Celestia. Twilight's family is pretty up there, socially, even moreso following Shining Armor's wedding to Cadence.Cadance. Twilight is already Canterlot nobility. Status-wise, she's everything Rarity wishes she could be. Unfortunately for Rarity, being born and raised in Ponyville makes Rarity roughly equal to a nouveau-riche southern belle, which weren't looked at kindly by the English aristocracy. It really makes Rarity's wish to be accepted in Canterlot a lot like a TragicDream she can never see come true.



* Just what, one wonders, would the real Cadence's fate have been if Twilight ''hadn't'' conveniently ended up in the same caves? Would the Changelings even have cared to retrieve her once she'd [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness outlived her usefulness]]? (Granted, as nasty as they are the Changelings don't seem to be big on killing as such -- [[CantKillYouStillNeedYou they need the love of living beings to feed on, after all]].)
** On that note, just how long have they been keeping Cadence in those caves? You'd think it had to be, at bare minimum, a week or other fairly lengthy amount of time in order for Queen Chrysalis to pull off this scheme.
** [[spoiler:And what if Chrysalis ''hadn't'' [[NiceJobFixingItVillain sent Twilight to the very same caves so she could find her]]? Cadence could have easily died down there with nopony any wiser...]]

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* Just what, one wonders, would the real Cadence's Cadance's fate have been if Twilight ''hadn't'' conveniently ended up in the same caves? Would the Changelings even have cared to retrieve her once she'd [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness outlived her usefulness]]? (Granted, as nasty as they are the Changelings don't seem to be big on killing as such -- [[CantKillYouStillNeedYou they need the love of living beings to feed on, after all]].)
** On that note, just how long have they been keeping Cadence Cadance in those caves? You'd think it had to be, at bare minimum, a week or other fairly lengthy amount of time in order for Queen Chrysalis to pull off this scheme.
** [[spoiler:And what if Chrysalis ''hadn't'' [[NiceJobFixingItVillain sent Twilight to the very same caves so she could find her]]? Cadence Cadance could have easily died down there with nopony any wiser...]]



** The good news is, [[spoiler:Cadence's ability to bring out or create love would make her the one pony that couldn't [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness outlive her usefulness,]] so the Queen would have been making sure she was still alive, if weak. The bad news is, she would have been forced to MindRape ponies for the rest of her life. Being forced to cast spells like the Want-It-Need-it spell or the love poison on hapless ponies would quickly become a FateWorseThanDeath.]]

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** The good news is, [[spoiler:Cadence's [[spoiler:Cadance's ability to bring out or create love would make her the one pony that couldn't [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness outlive her usefulness,]] so the Queen would have been making sure she was still alive, if weak. The bad news is, she would have been forced to MindRape ponies for the rest of her life. Being forced to cast spells like the Want-It-Need-it spell or the love poison on hapless ponies would quickly become a FateWorseThanDeath.]]



* [[spoiler: Changelings feed on love, and Shining Armor's love for Cadence already put Chrysalis past Celestia-tier. What if Cadence and Shining Armor's combined PowerOfLove had supercharged Chrysalis? Seems like a hell of a gamble on Cadence and Shining Armor's part.]]

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* [[spoiler: Changelings feed on love, and Shining Armor's love for Cadence Cadance already put Chrysalis past Celestia-tier. What if Cadence Cadance and Shining Armor's combined PowerOfLove had supercharged Chrysalis? Seems like a hell of a gamble on Cadence Cadance and Shining Armor's part.]]



* [[spoiler: In all likelihood, Chrysalis intended Twilight to ''kill'' the real Princess Cadance. I mean, she goaded her into blowing up the very wall Cadence was trapped behind. Sure, she ''said'' Twilight would only have to "[[NeverSayDie catch]]" her, but given how rage-filled Twilight was at that point...]]

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* [[spoiler: In all likelihood, Chrysalis intended Twilight to ''kill'' the real Princess Cadance. I mean, she goaded her into blowing up the very wall Cadence Cadance was trapped behind. Sure, she ''said'' Twilight would only have to "[[NeverSayDie catch]]" her, but given how rage-filled Twilight was at that point...]]



* FridgeHorror that strikes even after the happy ending - Cadence is an alicorn, like Celestia and Luna, who have both lived for at least a millenia and probably more. All canon so far shows that the lifetime of normal ponies is limited much like humans - suggesting that Cadence has just entered into a marriage which [[MayflyDecemberRomance will last a few decades]], while she'll live for centuries.

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* FridgeHorror that strikes even after the happy ending - Cadence Cadance is an alicorn, like Celestia and Luna, who have both lived for at least a millenia and probably more. All canon so far shows that the lifetime of normal ponies is limited much like humans - suggesting that Cadence Cadance has just entered into a marriage which [[MayflyDecemberRomance will last a few decades]], while she'll live for centuries.



* Imagine the sort of tyrant Cadence could be if she used her powers for evil. She has the power to make every pony in Equestria completely devoted to her. [[note]]''More like she has the power to bolster the love one already feels toward another."[[/note]]

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* Imagine the sort of tyrant Cadence Cadance could be if she used her powers for evil. She has the power to make every pony in Equestria completely devoted to her. [[note]]''More like she has the power to bolster the love one already feels toward another."[[/note]]



** This creates even more implications if the audience has prior knowledge of [[SwordOfTruthThe Sword Of Truth]] series of books, which have the Confessor. A being who's ability is to suppress a person's ability to feel anything but love for the Confessor and magnifies it tenfold. If a confessor asks a person she has "touched" to die, they are so devoted their heart simply stops. If Cadence became a Tyrant, and Love is implied to be stronger than Celestia (Chrysalis beats Celestia --> Chrysalis is beaten by Love) she could either enslave or kill both Princesses on a whim.

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** This creates even more implications if the audience has prior knowledge of [[SwordOfTruthThe Sword Of Truth]] series of books, which have the Confessor. A being who's ability is to suppress a person's ability to feel anything but love for the Confessor and magnifies it tenfold. If a confessor asks a person she has "touched" to die, they are so devoted their heart simply stops. If Cadence Cadance became a Tyrant, and Love is implied to be stronger than Celestia (Chrysalis beats Celestia --> Chrysalis is beaten by Love) she could either enslave or kill both Princesses on a whim.



** Yes, but the point was that its an uncomfortable subject that will be brought up and in the back of the minds of people. Its more Fridge Sadness than anything.
* Just WhatIf Twilight DIDN'T believe that Cadence wasn't the fake?

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** Yes, but the point was that its it's an uncomfortable subject that will be brought up and in the back of the minds of people. Its It's more Fridge Sadness than anything.
* Just WhatIf Twilight DIDN'T believe that Cadence Cadance wasn't the fake?



* Cadence's powers. Even if they "strengthen what's already there", that's not exactly much better. For instance, it is never really made clear just what qualifies as "love" for her powers? It's almost guaranteed that you feel more "love" towards any random passerby - even one who you absolutely hate - than you do towards that ant that is crawling along your wall. Can she use that? If so, then even if her powers don't "create" love, then the effects would be effectively indistinguishable.
** Depends a lot on one's personal stance on "love" in general. Is love a good thing? Then Cadence's powers are pretty unquestionably positive. Is it an already-questionable breakdown of rationality (or worse) in its own right? ''Then'' they suddenly look a lot more ominous. (Of course, the real reason her powers are going to be limited is somewhat more meta: most of the show is ''driven'' by interpersonal conflict of some kind or other, and if a Princess DeusExMachina could just pop in and resolve everything with a few strategically-placed pink hearts anytime she liked, that would be kind of anticlimactic. So she probably can't actually do that. Watch out if she ever picks up a SuperpoweredEvilSide, though...)

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* Cadence's Cadance's powers. Even if they "strengthen what's already there", that's not exactly much better. For instance, it is never really made clear just what qualifies as "love" for her powers? It's almost guaranteed that you feel more "love" towards any random passerby - even one who you absolutely hate - than you do towards that ant that is crawling along your wall. Can she use that? If so, then even if her powers don't "create" love, then the effects would be effectively indistinguishable.
** Depends a lot on one's personal stance on "love" in general. Is love a good thing? Then Cadence's Cadance's powers are pretty unquestionably positive. Is it an already-questionable breakdown of rationality (or worse) in its own right? ''Then'' they suddenly look a lot more ominous. (Of course, the real reason her powers are going to be limited is somewhat more meta: most of the show is ''driven'' by interpersonal conflict of some kind or other, and if a Princess DeusExMachina could just pop in and resolve everything with a few strategically-placed pink hearts anytime she liked, that would be kind of anticlimactic. So she probably can't actually do that. Watch out if she ever picks up a SuperpoweredEvilSide, though...)



*** [[spoiler: Cadence also had her bouquet with her. Ponies have been shown eating flowers before. Maybe to start with it had been a grand thing with roses, ivy, baby's breath, etc. but by the time Twilight showed up it had been nibbled down to some greenery and a few lilies of the valley.]]

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*** [[spoiler: Cadence Cadance also had her bouquet with her. Ponies have been shown eating flowers before. Maybe to start with it had been a grand thing with roses, ivy, baby's breath, etc. but by the time Twilight showed up it had been nibbled down to some greenery and a few lilies of the valley.]]



** It could be that Dash decided to accentuate the positive. After all, Queen Chrysalis and her changlings were defeated- by the power of love, no less. Cadence was rescued and reunited with Shining Armor. And without Fake!Cadence being all bridezilla, they were able to put together the most fabulous wedding Canterlot had ever seen. Yeah, they had to [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn that happy ending,]] but they got it.

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** It could be that Dash decided to accentuate the positive. After all, Queen Chrysalis and her changlings were defeated- by the power of love, no less. Cadence Cadance was rescued and reunited with Shining Armor. And without Fake!Cadence Fake!Cadance being all bridezilla, they were able to put together the most fabulous wedding Canterlot had ever seen. Yeah, they had to [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn that happy ending,]] but they got it.



* More of a Fridge TearJerker really, but notice how Cadence walks down the wedding aisle [[spoiler: both times]] all alone. Normally, the father of the bride gives her away to the groom. [[MyParentsAreDead Do the math.]]

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* More of a Fridge TearJerker really, but notice how Cadence Cadance walks down the wedding aisle [[spoiler: both times]] all alone. Normally, the father of the bride gives her away to the groom. [[MyParentsAreDead Do the math.]]



* The only thing that stopped King Sombra from getting into the Empire was Cadence's love magic. This means they must've arrived before Sombra did. Imagine if he'd reached it before they did.

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* The only thing that stopped King Sombra from getting into the Empire was Cadence's Cadance's love magic. This means they must've arrived before Sombra did. Imagine if he'd reached it before they did.



** Twilight said that she, Cadence and Luna changed everything back to normal in the end.

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** Twilight said that she, Cadence Cadance and Luna changed everything back to normal in the end.

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