History Fridge / TurnaboutStorm

* While it may be a bad thing that Celestia wasn't gonna be a judge for Rainbow Dash's trial, it turns out to be a good thing in the end, as Celestia probably wouldn't allow [[spoiler: Phoenix to accuse Fluttershy in order to buy more time]].

* It's weird seeing [[spoiler: Trixie's Black Psyche-Locks]] being viewed as a TearJerker when the previous ([[spoiler:and around the time the episode was shown, ''only'']]) person who [[spoiler: had them was a CompleteMonster]]. However, it makes perfect sense when you hear how Phoenix describes them when he faced the latter. [[spoiler: One of the details he said to describe them was "full of despair"]]. So in a sense, they're still the same, but in the former's case, that part of them is more remarkable than in the latter's.

* Phoenix teases Gilda during her cross examination since, as he said it, "Anger makes you stupid". [[spoiler:This fits particularly well with the motives that lead her to tamper with the crime scene]].
* Rainbow Dash's [[spoiler:anger at Fluttershy for testifying]] puzzled me. Then I remembered: [[spoiler:"Oh, right. Element of ''Loyalty''". Of ''course'' she'd take a perceived betrayal more personally.]]

* Sonata and Ace Swift are parallels to [[spoiler: Mia Fey and Red White. Though Sonata lacks the moral character that Mia possesed she still was almost killed trying to expose the [[AssholeVictim asshole]] blackmailer. But in the far more [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism idealistic world]] of ''Frienship is Magic'' karma killed Ace for his crimes rather than Sonata.]]
** In a similar light, [[spoiler:the final confrontation turns from the final nail in the coffin for the antagonist it is in ''Ace Attorney's'' world, into a bringer of hope for the antagonist, and the thing that cements their HeelFaceTurn]].

* After [[spoiler:Phoenix was knocked out, had his evidence stolen, and then left for dead, he was faced with some timberwolves. Which leads to the revelation: Was whoever knocked him out ''planning'' on having the wolves kill him?]]
** They might not have planned on [[spoiler: him dying]]; just [[spoiler: getting him lost in the forest so he wouldn't be able to get back out easily]].

* Just the fact that Apple Bloom was almost surely at the scene of the murder and possibly as it was happening. If she hadn't been blinded by the flash and [[InsistentTerminology scare... I mean startled]] by the lightning, who knows what the murderer might have done to her?
** That is banking on the fact that the murderer is as heartless as Ace was [[spoiler:which, as of the end of ''Part 4'', is looking to be only mostly true]], but considering how most of the suspects have legit reasons of why they should kill Ace, but wouldn't do the same to another [[InsistentTerminology person… er, pony]], that would seem unlikely.
*** Point but bad things don't necessarily have to be deadly. What if the murderer isn't one of the nice victims who we've seen and is willing to hurt ANY being that gets in their way. Apple Bloom might not have died if this is the case but can you imagine the guilt Rainbow would feel if she was indirectly the cause of one of her best friends' little sister ending up in the hospital or kidnapped?
** [[spoiler: Considering that Apple Bloom magically ended up outside of the Forest, and considering the person she bumped into in the darkness of the forest was the only person there, and quite possibly the Murderer, and the person implicated at the end ''Part 4'', she may be as bad as we think.]]
** [[spoiler:With the real events revealed, we now know that there was no murderer at all. The real worrying situation would have been if Apple Bloom had run into Ace Swift in the middle of his VillainousBreakdown.]]
* What if Fluttershy had been a little late with [[spoiler:saving Phoenix's butt in both occasions]]?
** Interestingly, [[spoiler:the bad ending contest has imagining this situation as its premise]].

** [[spoiler:Sonata. She would have walked away scot-free; but chances are that the guilt of making an innocent take the bullet for her, making a lot of other ponies suffer in the process, would have caught up to her sooner than later. She was already broken by the blackmailing and the fact that she thought she had killed Ace, so who knows what that would have done to her.]]
** [[spoiler:Trixie. If you interpret her as someone that deep down realized she was doing something wrong, but was too stubborn to admit it to even herself, she might have eventually been pursued by a strong and lingering guilt she would never admit to. If you interpret her as someone who needed to be set straight by Phoenix before starting to go through her HeelRealization, there's the chance that her victory would have been a strong StartOfDarkness. Like Twilight said, another pony had been assaulted by feelings similar to hers before, and it did not end well.]]
*** [[spoiler:Want some extra FridgeHorror? Looking at the state of her Black Psyche-Locks, the outcome of the trial could've very well decided who her AA-verse parallel (in terms of Black Lock bearer and psyche) would've been. Turnabout Storm's official canon has her paralleled with Athena Cykes, who, prior to having hers broken, had forgotten her secret but it still haunted her, traumatizing her. In the Bad Ending canon, she would be paralleled to Kristoph Gavin, who has his black locks whole and whose traumatizing secret had become so ingrained into his memory that it twisted him to the point of ending people's lives and careers for the pettiest of reasons.]]

** [[spoiler:Trixie. If you interpret her as someone that deep down realized she was doing something wrong, but was too stubborn to admit it to even herself, she might have eventually been pursued by a strong and lingering guilt she would never admit to. If you interpret her as someone who needed to be set straight by Phoenix before starting to go through her HeelRealization, there's the chance that her victory would have been a strong StartOfDarkness. Like Twilight said, another pony had been assaulted by feelings similar to hers before, and it did not end well.]]

* When Twilight chides Phoenix in annoyance for whining, he snaps, "I'm not whining, I'm complaining!" This is one of Rarity's lines in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E19ADogAndPonyShow "A Dog and Pony Show".]] Guess who Phoenix bonds with the most?

** That's saying if she would ever '''want''' to help them after being ''betrayed'' by Equestria. Element of Loyalty, and general hothead who doesn't think before she acts and all. Also, Discord would probably taunt them about falsely imprisoning Rainbow Dash, maybe get the culprit to admit their crimes, and then laugh and laugh as the ponies lynch the pony responsible for eternal chaos.

* Sonata and Ace Swift are parallels to [[spoiler: Mia Fey and Red White. Though Sonata lacks the moral character that Mia possesed she still was almost killed trying to expose the [[AssholeVictim asshole]] blackmailer. But in the far more [[TheSlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism idealistic world]] of ''Frienship is Magic'' karma killed Ace for his crimes rather than Sonata.]]

* Sonata and Ace Swift are parallels to [[spoiler: Mia Fey and Red White. Though Sonata lacks the moral character that Mia possesed she still was almost killed trying to expose the [[AssholeVictim asshole]] blackmailer. But in the far more [[TheSlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism idealistic world]] of MyLittlePonyFrienshipIsMagic karma killed Ace for his crimes rather than Sonata.]]

** Then again, why study law? Isn't it an incredibly hard and time-consuming carrer? Remember something Twilight says in ''Part 3 - Twilight'': Most crimes that take place in Equestria hardly warrant trials and lawyers. Unlike on Earth, being a lawyer in Equestria wouldn't exactly be a solid job choice to take. Chances are being an attorney is considered a secondary job for the ponyfolk at best, something easy they can study just because they can.

* Phoenix gets increasingly pissed at Trixie calling him [[MyNameIsNotDurwood Mr. Wrong]]; kind of strange, as he trends to shrug off insulting nicknames (like Godot calling him Trite). He's got good motives to be pissed by that nickname though, since he's been called like that before, by Mia Fey's killer no less.

* It's weird seeing [[spoiler: Trixie's Black Psyche-Locks]] being viewed as a TearJerker when the last person who [[spoiler: had them was a CompleteMonster]]. However, it makes perfect sense when you hear how Phoenix describes them when he faced the latter. [[spoiler: One of the details he said to describe them was "full of despair"]]. So in a sense, they're still the same, but in the former's case, that part of them is more remarkable than in the latter's.

* Twilight admonishes Phoenix for cursing when Trixie revealed she knew the connection between Rainbow Dash and Ace, which makes sense when you realize that The ''Ace Attorney'' series is rated T, though the ESRB never mentions the mild language, while ''Friendship is Magic'' is marketed, [[PeripheralDemographic usually]], to little girls and thus uses {{unusual euphemism}}s for their swears.

* The story was written before season 2, and also takes place before it. Keep in mind that this trial is for the holder of one of six Elements of Harmony. If she gets banished to the sun, there might be no way to get her back to use the Elements of Harmony to take out a certain threat. [[OhCrap Care to guess what happens when season 2 begins]]?

Consider this: In the games, all the prosecutors not called [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain Winston Payne]] come with a pretty open and shut case at first glance, same as Trixie; and usually have a piece of evidence or testimony they pull off from nowhere after Nick finds a contradiction, destroying Wright's line of logic, same as Trixie; and Phoenix manages to break their case ''just'' in time by using either "unimportant" evidence he collected or a testimony from someone he spoke to while investigating[[hottip:*:Or the occasional BigDamnHeroes moment]], making him get the upper hand at the end. But it's different this time.\\

* Why is Phoenix so rattled when Pinkie Pie starts calling him Feenie? Because that's what his girlfriend used to call him. You know; the one who [[spoiler: tried to frame him for murder, but turned out to have a twin sister that actually liked him, both of which called him by that name]]. It's understandable that he'd want to limit the number of people… err… [[InsistentTerminology ponies]] calling him that, considering that [[spoiler: Dahlia, the one who framed him, is dead, and Iris, the one who liked him, is most likely [[ItMakesSenseInContext still serving jail time for helping conspire a murder]]]].
** This could also explain why Phoenix was rattled about [[spoiler:the Wob Niar theory, as it would hit too close to home]].
** This depends on which point in time Phoenix got dragged to Equestria. If this Phoenix is from between ''Justice For All'' and ''Trials & Tribulations'' [[spoiler:the Iris part of the fridge brilliance wouldn't count, as Phoenix still doesn't know about her existence at this point. The Dahlia part on the other hand would still hit him]].
*** WordOfGod says that ''Turnabout Storm'' takes place between ''Justice For All'' and ''Trials & Tribulations'', [[spoiler:so the Dahlia part applies, while the Iris part doesn't]].

* Twilight [[spoiler: noticing that Trixie getting out of character]] makes a lot of sense when you recall how [[spoiler:it wasn't the first time Twilight saw someone not act like themselves, though jumped to conclusions without any tact and got called out for it by ''everyone she knew'']]. It shows how much she learned from that wedding in Canterlot, as now she's asking [[spoiler:''why'' they're acting out of character rather than glare angrily at them and call them evil]].
** But Twilight flat out states she's never seen a griffon except for Gilda, which using that timeframe, contradicts "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E24MysteryOnTheFriendshipExpress Mystery on the Friendship Express]]" where she meets Gustave [=LeGrande=]. This series probably takes place before Season 2. It still might be plausible if the theory that the episodes don't necessarily go in chronological order is true.
*** Twilight ''does'' reference her brief time as a [[TakenForGranite "life-sized lawn ornament"]], and Fluttershy says she's already met one phoenix before, meaning Turnabout Storm has to take place after "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E17StareMaster Stare Master]]" and "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E22ABirdInTheHoof A Bird In The Hoof]]". So taking place between seasons 1 and 2 makes the most sense.
*** Of course. At the time the fiction was written, Season 2 hadn't even happened yet. It stands to reason that it takes place between Seasons 1 and 2, if anywhere.

* Pinkie responding to one of Phoenix's inner monologues may seem like a silly off-hand gag, but she did have a good reason to know what he was thinking; after all, wasn't she the one that said later that she had read a good part of the script beforehand?

** That is banking on the fact that the murderer is as heartless as Ace was [[spoiler:which, as of the end of Part 4, is looking to be only mostly true]], but considering how most of the suspects have legit reasons of why they should kill Ace, but wouldn't do the same to another [[InsistentTerminology person… er, pony]], that would seem unlikely.

** [[spoiler: Considering that Apple Bloom magically ended up outside of the Forest, and considering the person she bumped into in the darkness of the forest was the only person there, and quite possibly the Murderer, and the person implicated at the end part 4, she may be as bad as we think.]]

* The story has been written before (and also to take place before) season 2. Keep in mind that this trial is for the holder of one of six Elements of Harmony. If she gets banished to the sun, there might be no way to get her back to use the Elements of Harmony to take out a certain threat. [[OhCrap Care to guess what happens when season 2 begins]]?

* Just the fact that Apple Bloom was almost surely at the scene of the murder and possibly as it was happening. If she hadn't been blinded by the flash and [[InsistentTerminology scare… I mean startled]] by the lightning, who knows what the murderer might have done to her?

* What if Fluttershy had been a little late with [[spoiler:saving Phoenix's butt in both occasions]]?

* Of course there would be an [[spoiler: Episode 5]]... the trial system for the Ace Attorney games uses [[spoiler: a 3-day system and there's only been 2 days!]]

*** Point but bad things don't necessarily have to be deadly. What if the murderer isn't one of the nice victims who we've seen and is willing to hurt ANY being that gets in their way. Apple Bloom might not have died if this is the case but can you imagine the guilt Rainbow would feel if she was indirectly the cause of one of her best friends' little sister ending up in the hospital or kidnapped?

* Pinkie stops Phoenix from saying Derpy's name during their encounter. At first glance, it may come across as prejudice or some-such, but after watching ''Part 3 - Twilight'', it becomes apparent that Pinkie simply knew [[IHaveManyNames the problems that would arise]].

** That is banking on the fact that the murderer is as heartless as Ace was, but considering how most of the suspects have legit reasons of why they should kill Ace, but wouldn't do the same to another [[InsistentTerminology person… er, pony]], that would seem unlikely.

* Fridge CallBack? It's quite telling that when Phoenix asks what Rainbow Dash had been doing near the Everfree Forest and she lies, causing three Psyche-Locks to appear. Remember, just a couple minutes earlier, he asked if she had anything to do with Ace's death and she said she didn't kill anypony. Bear in mind, [[spoiler:just because she didn't kill him doesn't mean she didn't have anything to do with his death, because that ''has'' happened to Phoenix before]].

* Twilight admonishes Phoenix for cursing when Trixie revealed she knew the connection between Rainbow Dash and Ace, which makes sense when you realize that The AceAttorney Series is rated T, though the ESRB never mentions the mild language, while WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic is marketed, [[PeripheralDemographic usually]], to little girls and thus uses {{unusual euphemism}}s for their swears.

* Twilight admonishes Phoenix for cursing when Trixie revealed she knew the connection between Rainbow Dash and Ace, which makes sense when you realize that The AceAttorney Series is rated T, though the ESRB never mentions the mild language, while WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic is marketed, [[PeripheralDemographic usually]], to little girls and thus uses [[UnusualEuphemism unusual euphemisms]] for their swears.

* Twilight admonishes Phoenix for cursing when Trixie revealed she knew the connection between Rainbow Dash and Ace, which makes sense when you realize that The AceAttorney Series is rated T, though the ESRB never mentions the mild language, while MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic is marketed, [[PeripheralDemographic usually]], to little girls and thus uses [[UnusualEuphemism unusual euphemisms]] for their swears.