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* Scourge constantly failing despite being the most competent among the bad guys makes some sense. When he scanned his alt-mode, he also scanned [[ButtMonkey Kelly]] and gained her terrible luck.
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* The [=TFWiki=] points out in the article on Skid Z's Choice that knowing Megatron, he might have been ''pretending'' he didn't recognize Sky-Byte just so he could punish Sky-Byte for screwing up ''every single mission''.

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* The [=TFWiki=] Website/TFWikiDotNet points out in the article on Skid Z's Choice that knowing Megatron, he might have been ''pretending'' he didn't recognize Sky-Byte just so he could punish Sky-Byte for screwing up ''every single mission''.
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* The TFWiki points out in the article on Skid Z's Choice that knowing Megatron, he might have been ''pretending'' he didn't recognize Sky-Byte just so he could punish Sky-Byte for screwing up ''every single mission''.
* The TFWiki claims that in the dub of A Friendly Contest, Sky-Byte marking his fakes with S doesn't make sense (in the Japanese version, it's Side Burn because the S is for "Speedbreaker", so the Autobots know which O-Parts are real) because he should be able to tell which ones are fake. It works, because Sky-Byte is pretty dang stupid.

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* The TFWiki [=TFWiki=] points out in the article on Skid Z's Choice that knowing Megatron, he might have been ''pretending'' he didn't recognize Sky-Byte just so he could punish Sky-Byte for screwing up ''every single mission''.
* The TFWiki [=TFWiki=] claims that in the dub of A Friendly Contest, Sky-Byte marking his fakes with S doesn't make sense (in the Japanese version, it's Side Burn because the S is for "Speedbreaker", so the Autobots know which O-Parts are real) because he should be able to tell which ones are fake. It works, because Sky-Byte is pretty dang stupid.
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* The TFWiki points out in the article on Skid Z's Choice that knowing Megatron, he might have been ''pretending'' he didn't recognize Sky-Byte just so he could punish Sky-Byte for screwing up ''every single mission''.
* The TFWiki claims that in the dub of A Friendly Contest, Sky-Byte marking his fakes with S doesn't make sense (in the Japanese version, it's Side Burn because the S is for "Speedbreaker", so the Autobots know which O-Parts are real) because he should be able to tell which ones are fake. It works, because Sky-Byte is pretty dang stupid.


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** The Japanese Generation One cartoon continuity explained it in their typically convoluted fashion. (It involves Unicron, Grand Scourge, Megaempress and the Legends Universe)

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* The reason for all the Decepticon prisoners having AnimalMotifs like TheBigBadWolf and the GiantFlyer? They probably all were Shockwaves test subjects. Think about it, he cloned the Predacons, and experimented on the Insecticons so why not?
** Though considering that Hammerstrike is referred to as a "Sharkticon" (a term used before in G1), Underbite a "Chompazoid", and Terrashock a "Buffaloid", it's also possible that some of the Decepticons had always looked like that.
** On the other hand, Grimlock and the other Dinobots are canonically Shockwave's test subjects, and they all (obviously) have a collective term.
** True, though some of them may still be his test subjects, like Filch, Quillfire and Ped to name a few.
* The Cybertronians in this series seem to lack the {{Shapeshifter Weapon}}s that were present in almost every character in the last series, with Bumblebee's team using handheld weapons and whatever Fixit puts together. Well, the war is over. They no longer need to be constantly armed, as they're not fighting a centuries long conflict anymore.
* Windblade is this when you think about it. She wasn't able to activate due to Optimus launching the allspark away and Cybertron inactive. She was finally able to move due to cybertron and the allspark returned.

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* Underbite once ate the entirety of Nuon City on Cybertron. The exact ramifications of this are never fully gone into, and it seems barely anyone else besides him even knows about it, but one has to wonder just how much destruction or casualties such an act caused.
** There might be a reason no one else knows about it: [[InferredHolocaust there were no survivors]].

[[AC: Fridge Logic]]
* You are the Cybertron High Command, and you have to transport a ship full of dangerous prisoners. Who do you send as a guard? ''One'' unarmed Minicon with faulty wiring and no backup in case something went wrong (which it ''did''), WhatWereYouThinking
** That the minicon "prison guard" mode would be more than effective in handling prisoners.
*** [[LateArrivalSpoiler Yes. Yes he is.]]
* If the team are "robots in disguise", why don't Grimlock and Fixit scan more practical vehicle modes? May also be a Headscratcher.
** Aside from the fact that Fixit's glitchy manner of speaking and size could easily allow him to pass for a human device, trans-scanning may be more difficult than that, and maybe Grimlock simply doesn't want to, going back to it being difficult, maybe he would be stuck temporarily or permanently as as the equivalent of a transgender person, with his preferred "gender" being T-Rex.
** In Grimlock's case, this show is meant to take place in the aligned continuity, falling in canon with the Cybertron games and Prime. In Fall of Cybertron, Grimlock and his team were captured and forcefully experimented on by Shockwave- Grimlock doesn't change modes because he physically can't due to Shockwave's experiments. He's stuck with a T-Rex alt. mode forever.
* Considering that not much time has apparently passed since ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'', it's rather odd that Bumblebee hasn't contacted Agent Fowler or anyone else who knows about Transformers.
** Speaking of which, didn't Ratchet choose to stay behind and help Unit:E? Why hasn't Bee contacted ''him''?
*** Ratchet returned to Cybertron to care for Ultra Magnus in ''Predacons Rising''.

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\n!!The 2012 comic book series:\n\n!!The 2015 cartoon:\n[[AC: Fridge Brilliances]]\n* The reason for all the Decepticon prisoners having AnimalMotifs like TheBigBadWolf and the GiantFlyer? They probably all were Shockwaves test subjects. Think about it, he cloned the Predacons, and experimented on the Insecticons so why not?\n** Though considering that Hammerstrike is referred to as a "Sharkticon" (a term used before in G1), Underbite a "Chompazoid", and Terrashock a "Buffaloid", it's also possible that some of the Decepticons had always looked like that.\n** On the other hand, Grimlock and the other Dinobots are canonically Shockwave's test subjects, and they all (obviously) have a collective term.\n** True, though some of them may still be his test subjects, like Filch, Quillfire and Ped to name a few.\n* The Cybertronians in this series seem to lack the {{Shapeshifter Weapon}}s that were present in almost every character in the last series, with Bumblebee's team using handheld weapons and whatever Fixit puts together. Well, the war is over. They no longer need to be constantly armed, as they're not fighting a centuries long conflict anymore.\n* Windblade is this when you think about it. She wasn't able to activate due to Optimus launching the allspark away and Cybertron inactive. She was finally able to move due to cybertron and the allspark returned.\n\n[[AC: Fridge Horror]]\n* Underbite once ate the entirety of Nuon City on Cybertron. The exact ramifications of this are never fully gone into, and it seems barely anyone else besides him even knows about it, but one has to wonder just how much destruction or casualties such an act caused.\n** There might be a reason no one else knows about it: [[InferredHolocaust there were no survivors]].\n\n[[AC: Fridge Logic]]\n* You are the Cybertron High Command, and you have to transport a ship full of dangerous prisoners. Who do you send as a guard? ''One'' unarmed Minicon with faulty wiring and no backup in case something went wrong (which it ''did''), WhatWereYouThinking\n** That the minicon "prison guard" mode would be more than effective in handling prisoners.\n*** [[LateArrivalSpoiler Yes. Yes he is.]]\n* If the team are "robots in disguise", why don't Grimlock and Fixit scan more practical vehicle modes? May also be a Headscratcher.\n** Aside from the fact that Fixit's glitchy manner of speaking and size could easily allow him to pass for a human device, trans-scanning may be more difficult than that, and maybe Grimlock simply doesn't want to, going back to it being difficult, maybe he would be stuck temporarily or permanently as as the equivalent of a transgender person, with his preferred "gender" being T-Rex. \n** In Grimlock's case, this show is meant to take place in the aligned continuity, falling in canon with the Cybertron games and Prime. In Fall of Cybertron, Grimlock and his team were captured and forcefully experimented on by Shockwave- Grimlock doesn't change modes because he physically can't due to Shockwave's experiments. He's stuck with a T-Rex alt. mode forever.\n* Considering that not much time has apparently passed since ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'', it's rather odd that Bumblebee hasn't contacted Agent Fowler or anyone else who knows about Transformers.\n** Speaking of which, didn't Ratchet choose to stay behind and help Unit:E? Why hasn't Bee contacted ''him''?\n*** Ratchet returned to Cybertron to care for Ultra Magnus in ''Predacons Rising''.----
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** In Grimlock's case, this show is meant to take place in the aligned continuity, falling in canon with the Cybertron games and Prime. In Fall of Cybertron, Grimlock and his team were captured and forcefully experimented on by Shockwave- Grimlock doesn't change modes because he physically can't due to Shockwave's experiments. He's stuck with a T-Rex alt. mode forever.
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** Speaking of which, didn't Ratchet choose to stay behind and help Unit:E? Why hasn't Bee contacted ''him''?

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** Speaking of which, didn't Ratchet choose to stay behind and help Unit:E? Why hasn't Bee contacted ''him''?''him''?
***Ratchet returned to Cybertron to care for Ultra Magnus in ''Predacons Rising''.
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** Aside from the fact that Fixit's glitchy manner of speaking and size could easily allow him to pass for a human device, trans-scanning may be more difficult than that, and maybe Grimlock simply doesn't want to, going back to it being difficult, maybe he would be stuck temporarily or permanently as as the equivalent of a transgender person, with his preferred "gender" being T-Rex.
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* Considering that not much time has apparently passed since ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'', it's rather odd that Bumblebee hasn't contacted Agent Fowler or anyone else who knows about Transformers.

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* Considering that not much time has apparently passed since ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'', it's rather odd that Bumblebee hasn't contacted Agent Fowler or anyone else who knows about Transformers.Transformers.
**Speaking of which, didn't Ratchet choose to stay behind and help Unit:E? Why hasn't Bee contacted ''him''?

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* You are the Cybertron High Command, and you have to transport a ship full of dangerous prisoners. Who do you send as a guard? ''One'' unarmed Minicon with faulty wiring and no backup in case something went wrong (which it ''did''), WhatWereYouThinking.
** That the minicon "prison guard" mode would be more then effective in handling prisoners.

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* You are the Cybertron High Command, and you have to transport a ship full of dangerous prisoners. Who do you send as a guard? ''One'' unarmed Minicon with faulty wiring and no backup in case something went wrong (which it ''did''), WhatWereYouThinking.
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** That the minicon "prison guard" mode would be more then than effective in handling prisoners.prisoners.
*** [[LateArrivalSpoiler Yes. Yes he is.]]
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* Considering that not much time has apparently passed since ''[[WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime]]'', it's rather odd that Bumblebee hasn't contacted Agent Fowler or anyone else who knows about Transformers.

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* Considering that not much time has apparently passed since ''[[WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime]]'', ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'', it's rather odd that Bumblebee hasn't contacted Agent Fowler or anyone else who knows about Transformers.
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* If the team are "robots in disguise", why don't Grimlock and Fixit scan more practical vehicle modes? May also be a Headscratcher.

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* If the team are "robots in disguise", why don't Grimlock and Fixit scan more practical vehicle modes? May also be a Headscratcher.Headscratcher.
* Considering that not much time has apparently passed since ''[[WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime]]'', it's rather odd that Bumblebee hasn't contacted Agent Fowler or anyone else who knows about Transformers.
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** Windblade is this when you think about it. She wasn't able to activate due to Optimus launching the allspark away and Cybertron inactive. She was finally able to move due to cybertron and the allspark returned.

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** * Windblade is this when you think about it. She wasn't able to activate due to Optimus launching the allspark away and Cybertron inactive. She was finally able to move due to cybertron and the allspark returned.
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** Windblade is this when you think about it. She wasn't able to activate due to Optimus launching the allspark away and Cybertron inactive. She was finally able to move due to cybertron and the allspark returned.
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** That the minicon "prison guard" mode would be more then effective in handling prisoners.
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** On the other hand, Grimlock and the other Dinobots are canonically Shockwave's test subjects, and they all (obviously) have a collective term.
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* The Cybertronians in this series seem to lack the ShapeshifterWeapon{{s}} that were present in almost every character in the last series, with Bumblebee's team using handheld weapons and whatever Fixit puts together. Well, the war is over. They no longer need to be constantly armed, as they're not fighting a centuries long conflict anymore.

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* The Cybertronians in this series seem to lack the ShapeshifterWeapon{{s}} {{Shapeshifter Weapon}}s that were present in almost every character in the last series, with Bumblebee's team using handheld weapons and whatever Fixit puts together. Well, the war is over. They no longer need to be constantly armed, as they're not fighting a centuries long conflict anymore.
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**There might be a reason no one else knows about it: [[InferredHolocaust there were no survivors]].
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** True, though some of them may still be his test subjects, like Filch, Quillfire and Ped to name a few.

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* It the final episode, Scourge and the other Decepticons are taken into custody to be imprisoned alongside Galvatron and his Predacons. But the Decepticons were brainwashed "by" Galvatron into committing their crimes. Shouldn't they be taken to some intensive care ward to be rehabilitated?

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* It In the final episode, Scourge and the other Decepticons are taken into custody to be imprisoned alongside Galvatron and his Predacons. But the Decepticons were brainwashed "by" Galvatron into committing their crimes. Shouldn't they be taken to some intensive care ward to be rehabilitated?



* You are the Cybertron High Command, and you have to transport a ship full of dangerous prisoners. Who do you send as a guard? ''One'' unarmed Minicon with faulty wiring and no backup in case something went wrong (which it ''did''). WhatWereYouThinking

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* You are the Cybertron High Command, and you have to transport a ship full of dangerous prisoners. Who do you send as a guard? ''One'' unarmed Minicon with faulty wiring and no backup in case something went wrong (which it ''did''). WhatWereYouThinking''did''), WhatWereYouThinking.
* If the team are "robots in disguise", why don't Grimlock and Fixit scan more practical vehicle modes? May also be a Headscratcher.

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[[AC: Fridge Horror]]
* It the final episode, Scourge and the other Decepticons are taken into custody to be imprisoned alongside Galvatron and his Predacons. But the Decepticons were brainwashed "by" Galvatron into committing their crimes. Shouldn't they be taken to some intensive care ward to be rehabilitated?
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* Underbite once ate the entirety of Nuon City on Cybertron. The exact ramifications of this are never fully gone into, and it seems barely anyone else besides him even knows about it, but one has to wonder just how much destruction or casualties such an act caused.

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* Underbite once ate the entirety of Nuon City on Cybertron. The exact ramifications of this are never fully gone into, and it seems barely anyone else besides him even knows about it, but one has to wonder just how much destruction or casualties such an act caused.caused.

[[AC: Fridge Logic]]
* You are the Cybertron High Command, and you have to transport a ship full of dangerous prisoners. Who do you send as a guard? ''One'' unarmed Minicon with faulty wiring and no backup in case something went wrong (which it ''did''). WhatWereYouThinking
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* The Cybertronians in this series seem to lack the ShapeshifterWeapon{{s}} that were present in almost every character in the last series, with Bumblebee's team using handheld weapons and whatever Fixit puts together. Well, the war is over. They no longer need to be constantly armed, as they're not fighting a centuries long conflict anymore.

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* The Cybertronians in this series seem to lack the ShapeshifterWeapon{{s}} that were present in almost every character in the last series, with Bumblebee's team using handheld weapons and whatever Fixit puts together. Well, the war is over. They no longer need to be constantly armed, as they're not fighting a centuries long conflict anymore.anymore.

[[AC: Fridge Horror]]
* Underbite once ate the entirety of Nuon City on Cybertron. The exact ramifications of this are never fully gone into, and it seems barely anyone else besides him even knows about it, but one has to wonder just how much destruction or casualties such an act caused.
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** Though considering that Hammerstrike is referred to as a "Sharkticon" (a term used before in G1), Underbite a "Chompazoid", and Terrashock a "Buffaloid", it's also possible that some of the Decepticons had always looked like that.

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** Though considering that Hammerstrike is referred to as a "Sharkticon" (a term used before in G1), Underbite a "Chompazoid", and Terrashock a "Buffaloid", it's also possible that some of the Decepticons had always looked like that.that.
* The Cybertronians in this series seem to lack the ShapeshifterWeapon{{s}} that were present in almost every character in the last series, with Bumblebee's team using handheld weapons and whatever Fixit puts together. Well, the war is over. They no longer need to be constantly armed, as they're not fighting a centuries long conflict anymore.
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** Though considering that Hammerstrike is referred to as a "Sharkticon" (a term used before in G1), Underbite a "Chompazoid", and Terrashock a "Buffaloid", it's also possible (and maybe more likely) that some of the Decepticons had always looked like that.

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** Though considering that Hammerstrike is referred to as a "Sharkticon" (a term used before in G1), Underbite a "Chompazoid", and Terrashock a "Buffaloid", it's also possible (and maybe more likely) that some of the Decepticons had always looked like that.
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* The reason for all the Decepticon prisoners having AnimalMotifs like TheBigBadWolf and the GiantFlyer? They probably all were Shockwaves test subjects. Think about it, he cloned the Predacons, and experimented on the Insecticons so why not?

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* The reason for all the Decepticon prisoners having AnimalMotifs like TheBigBadWolf and the GiantFlyer? They probably all were Shockwaves test subjects. Think about it, he cloned the Predacons, and experimented on the Insecticons so why not?not?
** Though considering that Hammerstrike is referred to as a "Sharkticon" (a term used before in G1), Underbite a "Chompazoid", and Terrashock a "Buffaloid", it's also possible (and maybe more likely) that some of the Decepticons had always looked like that.
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!!The 2001 anime:

!!The 2012 comic book series:

!!The 2015 cartoon:
[[AC: Fridge Brilliances]]
* The reason for all the Decepticon prisoners having AnimalMotifs like TheBigBadWolf and the GiantFlyer? They probably all were Shockwaves test subjects. Think about it, he cloned the Predacons, and experimented on the Insecticons so why not?

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