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* At first this troper wondered why Diesel 10 needed Paxton to help him steal the Christmas decorations in season 17's "The Missing Christmas Decorations", despite being able to do it himself thanks to his claw. But then, the one time Paxton refused to go along with him, Diesel 10 was caught in the act by Percy who happened to pass by. Diesel 10 needed Paxton to keep watch , while he does the dirty work. Without him, the whole plan would've gone to pieces much quicker.

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* At first this troper wondered why Diesel 10 needed Paxton to help him steal the Christmas decorations in season 17's "The Missing Christmas Decorations", despite being the only one able to do it himself so thanks to his claw. But then, the one time Paxton refused to go along with him, Diesel 10 was caught in the act by Percy who happened to pass by. Diesel 10 needed Paxton to keep watch , while he does the dirty work. Without him, the whole plan would've gone to pieces much quicker.
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* At first this troper wondered why Diesel 10 needed Paxton to help him steal the Christmas decorations from Tidmouth in "The Missing Christmas Decorations", despite Diesel 10 being capable of doing it himself thanks to his claw (and because of it, he's also the only one who could do it without help). But then it struck her: he needed Paxton to keep watch to make sure that there were no other engines around. Not to mention that Percy caught him in the act during the one time Paxton refused to go along with him.

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* At first this troper wondered why Diesel 10 needed Paxton to help him steal the Christmas decorations from Tidmouth in season 17's "The Missing Christmas Decorations", despite Diesel 10 being capable of doing able to do it himself thanks to his claw (and because of it, he's also the only one who could do it without help). claw. But then it struck her: he needed Paxton to keep watch to make sure that there were no other engines around. Not to mention that Percy caught him in the act during then, the one time Paxton refused to go along with him.
him, Diesel 10 was caught in the act by Percy who happened to pass by. Diesel 10 needed Paxton to keep watch , while he does the dirty work. Without him, the whole plan would've gone to pieces much quicker.
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* At first this troper wondered why Diesel 10 needed Paxton to help him steal the Christmas decorations from Tidmouth in "The Missing Christmas Decorations", despite Diesel 10 being capable of doing it himself thanks to his claw (and because of it, he's also the only one who could do it without help). But then it struck her: he needed Paxton to keep watch to make sure that there were no other engines around. Not to mention that Percy caught him in the act during the one time Paxton refused to go along with him.
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* New train engineers are often told that at some point in their career their train will kill someone. These accidents are almost never the train crew's fault - [[WhatAnIdiot people try to beat trains over crossings]],[[TooDumbToLive play on the tracks]], or just commit suicide. This is traumatic enough for someone sitting in a cab; many engineers suffer from PTSD, and a few have even [[DrivenToSuicide taken their own lives.]] Now imagine being able to ''feel'' the metal crumple under your buffers.

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* New train engineers are often told that at some point in their career their train will kill someone. These accidents are almost never the train crew's fault - [[WhatAnIdiot people try to beat trains over crossings]],[[TooDumbToLive play on the tracks]], or just commit suicide. This is traumatic enough for someone sitting in a cab; many engineers suffer from PTSD, and a few have even [[DrivenToSuicide taken their own lives.]] Now imagine being a sentient engine able to ''feel'' the metal crumple under your buffers.
buffers. How many engines have been traumatized with the knowledge that they accidentally ''killed'' someone?
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* New train engineers
engineers are often told that at some point in their career their train will kill someone. These accidents are almost never the train crew's fault - [[WhatAnIdiot people try to beat trains over crossings]],[[TooDumbToLive play on the tracks]], or just commit suicide. This is traumatic enough for someone sitting in a cab; many engineers suffer from PTSD, and a few have even [[DrivenToSuicide taken their own lives.]] Now imagine being able to ''feel'' the metal crumple under your buffers.
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* New train engineers
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* Barring accident or lack of maintenance, [[TheAgeless engines are effectively immortal, with some over 100 years old]]. This means all but the diesels and the youngest steam engines have probably outlived their drivers and firemen at least once.

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* Barring accident or lack of maintenance, [[TheAgeless engines are effectively immortal, with some over 100 years old]]. This means all but the diesels and the youngest steam engines have probably [[MayflyDecemberRomance outlived their drivers and firemen at least once.once]].
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* Barring accident or lack of maintenance, [[TheAgeless engines are effectively immortal, with some over 100 years old]]. This means all but the diesels and the youngest steam engines have probably outlived their drivers and firemen at least once.
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** This Troper is under the assumption that Toby was talking about a ghost Percy had been joking about earlier.

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** This Troper is under the assumption that Toby was talking about a ghost Percy had been joking about earlier.earlier.
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* The station master's house that Thomas crashed into. You can only wonder why a house was placed ''that close'' to a train track meant to capture a runaway train.
** Similar cases are shown throughout the series, such as a barber's house and a chocolate factory. Worth noting that none of them even have buffers, just a track leading straight towards the building. TemptingFate enough?
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** On a similar note, take away the cutesy elements of the show, and it's really pretty apparent that the engines are [[CrapsaccharineWorld in slavery.]] Even though they're fully sentient, ''none'' of the humans seem to care[[hottip:* : Though Sir Topham Hatt is generally fair and sympathetic, he is still, essentially, the 'master' He got ''very'' upset with Percy and some of the others in 'The Deputation,' for instance, when they tried to interfere with his decision-making process.]]. They've been bought and sold, banished for minor offenses, callously separated from 'family,' have no say whatsoever in where or how they work, they're automatically blamed when things go wrong, and don't appear to ever get any R&R.

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** On a similar note, take away the cutesy elements of the show, and it's really pretty apparent that the engines are [[CrapsaccharineWorld in slavery.]] Even though they're fully sentient, ''none'' of the humans seem to care[[hottip:* : care[[note]] Though Sir Topham Hatt is generally fair and sympathetic, he is still, essentially, the 'master' He got ''very'' upset with Percy and some of the others in 'The Deputation,' for instance, when they tried to interfere with his decision-making process.]].[[/note]]. They've been bought and sold, banished for minor offenses, callously separated from 'family,' have no say whatsoever in where or how they work, they're automatically blamed when things go wrong, and don't appear to ever get any R&R.
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*** *cough*Dr.Beeching*cough*
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*** May be an oversight, since the original novel mentions all three shooting out when Henry crashes (the driver is left tending to both whining firemen in a comical fashion).

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*** May be an oversight, since the original novel mentions all three shooting out when Henry crashes (the driver is left tending to both whining firemen in a comical fashion).fashion, implying all three came out fine).
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*** May be an oversight, since the original novel mentions all three shooting out when Henry crashes (the driver is left tending to both whining firemen in a comical fashion).
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*** A few of the diesels-- Iron 'Ary and Bert--actually seem to ''enjoy'' working in this sort of "funeral home" so much that they tried to scrap Stepney, just for fun.

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*** A few of the diesels-- Iron 'Ary and Bert--actually seem to ''enjoy'' working in this sort of "funeral home" so much that they tried to scrap Stepney, [[ForTheEvulz just for fun.fun]].
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** Also in the original books, James was originally black, not unlike Donald and Douglas. It's a bit analogous to a teen having just left a school where uniforms are mandatory, transferring into one where they aren't, but a "non-compulsory" uniform exists. James is tired of being "just another" engine.
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*** Mentioning of the engines getting rest is mentioned every once in a while, even if it usually means another engine working twice as hard to compensate. Thomas and Toby have both been shown given whole days off, only to be guilt tripped by the other working engines into doing their jobs anyway.

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*** Mentioning of the engines getting rest is mentioned every once in a while, even if it usually means another engine working twice as hard to compensate. Thomas and Toby have both been shown given whole days off, only to be guilt tripped by the other working engines into doing their jobs anyway. Granted it helps a lot that the engines actually seem to ''enjoy'' most of their work in moderation.
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*** Which leads to a disturbing afterthought, just ''who'' exactly would be steering the likes of Diesel, 'Arry and Bert as they menace the other engines?


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*** Mentioning of the engines getting rest is mentioned every once in a while, even if it usually means another engine working twice as hard to compensate. Thomas and Toby have both been shown given whole days off, only to be guilt tripped by the other working engines into doing their jobs anyway.
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* James is shown to be very proud of his red paint. While this is logic is lost in the show, in the original books when James was first introduced, all the current engines in the Fat Controller's railway were blue (Henry, who similarly was pompous about his green paint at first, asked to be painted blue as sign of humility, and asks for green when he becomes conceited again later on). This also explains why James is ''furious'' at the idea of being painted blue. His red paint makes him individual and unique in a band of similar engines.
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* In 'Ghost Train', Toby says "Percy's had an accident" as well as "It looked like Percy's ghost". Toby is basically implying that Percy died. This was just part of their trick but Thomas treats it as if it happened. His reaction is "Huh, who cares?" Thomas and Percy are meant to be best friends by the way.

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* In 'Ghost Train', Toby says "Percy's had an accident" as well as "It looked like Percy's ghost". Toby is basically implying that Percy died. This was just part of their trick but Thomas treats it as if it happened. His reaction is "Huh, who cares?" Thomas and Percy are meant to be best friends by the way.way.
** This Troper is under the assumption that Toby was talking about a ghost Percy had been joking about earlier.
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* ''Gordon and the Famous visitor'' reveals that Gordon believes that engines without domes are 'not respectable'. It's worth noting that Flying Scotsman (Who, in the books, was Gordon's brother) was exhibited at the 1924 Wembley exhibition alongside a much smaller express locomotive with no dome, and this loco was proven to be the more powerful of the two engines, so Gordon's dislike for domeless engines may just be an act of jealousy.

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* ''Gordon The Series 3 episode 'Gordon and the Famous visitor'' visitor' reveals that Gordon believes that engines without domes are 'not respectable'. It's worth noting that Flying Scotsman (Who, in the books, was Gordon's brother) was exhibited at the 1924 Wembley exhibition alongside a much smaller express locomotive with no dome, and this loco was proven to be the more powerful of the two engines, so Gordon's dislike for domeless engines may just be an act of jealousy.
** Fast forward to the Series 7 episode 'Gordon and Spencer', where Gordon begins to take a dislike to Spencer before even getting to know him. Spencer has no visible dome.
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*''Gordon and the Famous visitor'' reveals that Gordon believes that engines without domes are 'not respectable'. It's worth noting that Flying Scotsman (Who, in the books, was Gordon's brother) was exhibited at the 1924 Wembley exhibition alongside a much smaller express locomotive with no dome, and this loco was proven to be the more powerful of the two engines, so Gordon's dislike for domeless engines may just be an act of jealousy.
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** Though the later seasons have slipped on this a bit, the engines really can't do ''anything'' without humans helping them. They need a driver and brakeman to move, the foundry crew to keep them in good repair. The possibility for blackmail is enormous.

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** Though the later seasons have slipped on this a bit, bit (more and more after each), the engines really can't do ''anything'' without humans helping them. They need a driver and brakeman to move, the foundry crew to keep them in good repair. The possibility for blackmail is enormous.
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*** According to the WordOfGod, most of the characters are at least 20 years old, and some of the narrow-gauge engines are almost ''100''. They've been putting up with that crap for a long time.

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*** According to the WordOfGod, most of the characters are at least 20 years old, and some of the narrow-gauge engines are almost more than ''100''. They've been putting up with that crap for a long time.
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* {{YMMV}} on this but in 'Ghost Train', Toby says "Percy's had an accident" as well as "It looked like Percy's ghost". Toby is basically implying that Percy died. This was just part of their trick but Thomas treats it as if it happened. His reaction is "Huh, who cares?" Thomas and Percy are meant to be best friends by the way.

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* {{YMMV}} on this but in In 'Ghost Train', Toby says "Percy's had an accident" as well as "It looked like Percy's ghost". Toby is basically implying that Percy died. This was just part of their trick but Thomas treats it as if it happened. His reaction is "Huh, who cares?" Thomas and Percy are meant to be best friends by the way.
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* YMMV on this but in 'Ghost Train', Toby says "Percy's had an accident" as well as "It looked like Percy's ghost". Toby is basically implying that Percy died. This was just part of their trick but Thomas treats it as if it happened. His reaction is "Huh, who cares?" Thomas and Percy are meant to be best friends by the way.

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* YMMV {{YMMV}} on this but in 'Ghost Train', Toby says "Percy's had an accident" as well as "It looked like Percy's ghost". Toby is basically implying that Percy died. This was just part of their trick but Thomas treats it as if it happened. His reaction is "Huh, who cares?" Thomas and Percy are meant to be best friends by the way.
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YMMV on this but in 'Ghost Train', Toby says "Percy's had an accident" as well as "It looked like Percy's ghost". Toby is basically implying that Percy died. This was just part of their trick but Thomas treats it as if it happened. His reaction is "Huh, who cares?" Thomas and Percy are meant to be best friends by the way.

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YMMV *YMMV on this but in 'Ghost Train', Toby says "Percy's had an accident" as well as "It looked like Percy's ghost". Toby is basically implying that Percy died. This was just part of their trick but Thomas treats it as if it happened. His reaction is "Huh, who cares?" Thomas and Percy are meant to be best friends by the way.
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*** Even worse: That story was based on a real life accident in which 14 people were killed.

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*** Even worse: That story was based on a real life accident in which 14 people were killed.killed.
YMMV on this but in 'Ghost Train', Toby says "Percy's had an accident" as well as "It looked like Percy's ghost". Toby is basically implying that Percy died. This was just part of their trick but Thomas treats it as if it happened. His reaction is "Huh, who cares?" Thomas and Percy are meant to be best friends by the way.
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** ''The Flying Kipper'' is creepy enough, even without FridgeHorror, but there's a very dark FreezeFrameBonus if you're paying attention: There are three men in the brakevan that Henry smashes into, but only 2 of them are mentioned jumping clear of the wreck.

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** ''The Flying Kipper'' is creepy enough, even without FridgeHorror, but there's a very dark FreezeFrameBonus if you're paying attention: There are three men in the brakevan that Henry smashes into, but only 2 of them are mentioned jumping clear of the wreck.wreck.
*** Even worse: That story was based on a real life accident in which 14 people were killed.

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* ''ThomasTheTankEngine''. Really, where to even start with this show?

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* ''ThomasTheTankEngine''. Really, where to even start with this show?


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** ''The Flying Kipper'' is creepy enough, even without FridgeHorror, but there's a very dark FreezeFrameBonus if you're paying attention: There are three men in the brakevan that Henry smashes into, but only 2 of them are mentioned jumping clear of the wreck.

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